| STOKES' SECRET TRAGEDY Ashes hero Ben Stokes’ brother and sister were killed . on 10:29 - Sep 17 with 1391 views | Cooperman |
Why has Jacqui chosen to now make this public knowledge? |  |
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| STOKES' SECRET TRAGEDY Ashes hero Ben Stokes’ brother and sister were killed . on 10:32 - Sep 17 with 1378 views | Darran |
| STOKES' SECRET TRAGEDY Ashes hero Ben Stokes’ brother and sister were killed . on 10:29 - Sep 17 by Cooperman |
Why has Jacqui chosen to now make this public knowledge? |
Muhammad Ali sorted him out. |  |
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| STOKES' SECRET TRAGEDY Ashes hero Ben Stokes’ brother and sister were killed . on 10:35 - Sep 17 with 1374 views | dickythorpe |
That's shocking!!! Sick and evil. |  | | |
| STOKES' SECRET TRAGEDY Ashes hero Ben Stokes’ brother and sister were killed . on 11:07 - Sep 17 with 1340 views | jackharris |
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| STOKES' SECRET TRAGEDY Ashes hero Ben Stokes’ brother and sister were killed . on 11:29 - Sep 17 with 1308 views | Darran |
| STOKES' SECRET TRAGEDY Ashes hero Ben Stokes’ brother and sister were killed . on 11:07 - Sep 17 by jackharris |
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He shouldn’t have replied to it in my opinion. Nobody should. Nobody should reply,retweet,nothing. [Post edited 17 Sep 2019 11:58]
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| STOKES' SECRET TRAGEDY Ashes hero Ben Stokes’ brother and sister were killed . on 11:29 - Sep 17 with 1311 views | Cooperman |
| STOKES' SECRET TRAGEDY Ashes hero Ben Stokes’ brother and sister were killed . on 11:07 - Sep 17 by jackharris |
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I guess Jacqui didn’t have the blessings of the family when opening up to the gutter press. | |
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| STOKES' SECRET TRAGEDY Ashes hero Ben Stokes’ brother and sister were killed . on 13:44 - Sep 17 with 1191 views | Ebo |
Front page of the s*n and in the top corner a tiny article about Boris's no show with the Luxembourg PM. Utter utter scum. |  |
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| STOKES' SECRET TRAGEDY Ashes hero Ben Stokes’ brother and sister were killed . on 13:49 - Sep 17 with 1173 views | Darran |
| STOKES' SECRET TRAGEDY Ashes hero Ben Stokes’ brother and sister were killed . on 13:44 - Sep 17 by Ebo |
Front page of the s*n and in the top corner a tiny article about Boris's no show with the Luxembourg PM. Utter utter scum. |
Have you read the article John? | |
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| STOKES' SECRET TRAGEDY Ashes hero Ben Stokes’ brother and sister were killed . on 13:50 - Sep 17 with 1168 views | Lohengrin |
| STOKES' SECRET TRAGEDY Ashes hero Ben Stokes’ brother and sister were killed . on 13:44 - Sep 17 by Ebo |
Front page of the s*n and in the top corner a tiny article about Boris's no show with the Luxembourg PM. Utter utter scum. |
It’s not ‘News’ at all. This has nothing to do with the public let alone the public interest. It’s just a repulsive sort of voyeurism on private family grief.
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| STOKES' SECRET TRAGEDY Ashes hero Ben Stokes’ brother and sister were killed . on 14:31 - Sep 17 with 1108 views | perchrockjack |
I am in full agreement with Ebo and Loh.
Filth like this unites those of a decent mindset.
The Sun is rightly reviled up this way. |  |
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| STOKES' SECRET TRAGEDY Ashes hero Ben Stokes’ brother and sister were killed . on 14:44 - Sep 17 with 1099 views | bluey_the_blue |
| STOKES' SECRET TRAGEDY Ashes hero Ben Stokes’ brother and sister were killed . on 13:50 - Sep 17 by Lohengrin |
It’s not ‘News’ at all. This has nothing to do with the public let alone the public interest. It’s just a repulsive sort of voyeurism on private family grief.
Feckin’ disgusting. |
It's a human interest story.
News? Not really. no. | | | |
| STOKES' SECRET TRAGEDY Ashes hero Ben Stokes’ brother and sister were killed . on 14:49 - Sep 17 with 1087 views | monmouth |
All true about the Sun, but it's a bit like blaming a rattlesnake for behaving like a rattlesnake.
Unless I've missed something, I can't really see why Stokes anger isn't targeted more at the other snake involved. The one happily pictured, that has presumably been paid, or is looking for her 15 minutes of fame on the back of his current success.
Whatever, its time the statutory criminal law was changed to stop this and these scum made to realise that a public interest defence doesnt mean what the public is interested in. A couple of £10 million fines if it were not genuinely in the public interest would soon put a stop to it. They could still report on when Stokes drunkenly beats up innocent people. |  |
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| STOKES' SECRET TRAGEDY Ashes hero Ben Stokes’ brother and sister were killed . on 14:55 - Sep 17 with 1074 views | bluey_the_blue |
| STOKES' SECRET TRAGEDY Ashes hero Ben Stokes’ brother and sister were killed . on 14:49 - Sep 17 by monmouth |
All true about the Sun, but it's a bit like blaming a rattlesnake for behaving like a rattlesnake.
Unless I've missed something, I can't really see why Stokes anger isn't targeted more at the other snake involved. The one happily pictured, that has presumably been paid, or is looking for her 15 minutes of fame on the back of his current success.
Whatever, its time the statutory criminal law was changed to stop this and these scum made to realise that a public interest defence doesnt mean what the public is interested in. A couple of £10 million fines if it were not genuinely in the public interest would soon put a stop to it. They could still report on when Stokes drunkenly beats up innocent people. |
So legislate to censor on what grounds?
What happened was a senseless, appalling tragedy but as I said, it's a human interest story. It happened; Stokes may want to brush it under the carpet for whatever reason, but it's a slippery slope when something like that is legislated against. | | | |
| STOKES' SECRET TRAGEDY Ashes hero Ben Stokes’ brother and sister were killed . on 15:02 - Sep 17 with 1057 views | monmouth |
| STOKES' SECRET TRAGEDY Ashes hero Ben Stokes’ brother and sister were killed . on 14:55 - Sep 17 by bluey_the_blue |
So legislate to censor on what grounds?
What happened was a senseless, appalling tragedy but as I said, it's a human interest story. It happened; Stokes may want to brush it under the carpet for whatever reason, but it's a slippery slope when something like that is legislated against. |
It's not in the public interest. 'Human Interest' is just celebrity bollocks that doesn't mean anything. But yes, I get the point. You are right in terms of practicalities. If the family (and that woman is a member of the family) want to make something public, there's nothing that really can be done. I guess I'm just sick of our scummy culture that makes this voyeurism profitable.
That's why I thought Stokes should be targeting his fire at her, because he sure as shit isn't going to shame the sun into having any morals or ethics. They are probably laughing at him and clinking champagne at any extra sales right on reading his response. | |
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| STOKES' SECRET TRAGEDY Ashes hero Ben Stokes’ brother and sister were killed . on 15:12 - Sep 17 with 1046 views | bluey_the_blue |
| STOKES' SECRET TRAGEDY Ashes hero Ben Stokes’ brother and sister were killed . on 15:02 - Sep 17 by monmouth |
It's not in the public interest. 'Human Interest' is just celebrity bollocks that doesn't mean anything. But yes, I get the point. You are right in terms of practicalities. If the family (and that woman is a member of the family) want to make something public, there's nothing that really can be done. I guess I'm just sick of our scummy culture that makes this voyeurism profitable.
That's why I thought Stokes should be targeting his fire at her, because he sure as shit isn't going to shame the sun into having any morals or ethics. They are probably laughing at him and clinking champagne at any extra sales right on reading his response. |
People are interested in reading about backstories on celebrities. It's a double edged sword, celebrities are happy enough to carefully stage paparrazzi shots after all, have agents leak positive stories.
I disagree with the Sun invective, I've little doubt Mirror would have done the same. After all, News International got the stick over phone hacking, yet Mirror I believe paid out more in compensation - and hacking occurred by Mirror first.
I agree with you Stokes should criticise the woman giving the story. On the whole though, that story is pretty sympathetic to Stokes, the closeness to his mum being highlighted. I also highly doubt Stokes was unaware the story was being run nor was asked for comment.
Would it be different for you if it had been a story written on a purely "factual" basis without the woman's comments? | | | |
| STOKES' SECRET TRAGEDY Ashes hero Ben Stokes’ brother and sister were killed . on 15:26 - Sep 17 with 1021 views | monmouth |
| STOKES' SECRET TRAGEDY Ashes hero Ben Stokes’ brother and sister were killed . on 15:12 - Sep 17 by bluey_the_blue |
People are interested in reading about backstories on celebrities. It's a double edged sword, celebrities are happy enough to carefully stage paparrazzi shots after all, have agents leak positive stories.
I disagree with the Sun invective, I've little doubt Mirror would have done the same. After all, News International got the stick over phone hacking, yet Mirror I believe paid out more in compensation - and hacking occurred by Mirror first.
I agree with you Stokes should criticise the woman giving the story. On the whole though, that story is pretty sympathetic to Stokes, the closeness to his mum being highlighted. I also highly doubt Stokes was unaware the story was being run nor was asked for comment.
Would it be different for you if it had been a story written on a purely "factual" basis without the woman's comments? |
Jesus you even try whatabouttery on a shitrag just because it's a tory shitrag. Who cares about any other equally culpable shitrag.
Noto the last bit. This is not a story that needs to be published at all. It is in no one's interest other than the scum making money out of other peoples misery. | |
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| STOKES' SECRET TRAGEDY Ashes hero Ben Stokes’ brother and sister were killed . on 15:31 - Sep 17 with 1002 views | londonlisa2001 |
| STOKES' SECRET TRAGEDY Ashes hero Ben Stokes’ brother and sister were killed . on 15:26 - Sep 17 by monmouth |
Jesus you even try whatabouttery on a shitrag just because it's a tory shitrag. Who cares about any other equally culpable shitrag.
Noto the last bit. This is not a story that needs to be published at all. It is in no one's interest other than the scum making money out of other peoples misery. |
To the surprise of no one, Bluey is unable to distinguish between things that are in the public interest and things that the public are interested in. | | | |
| STOKES' SECRET TRAGEDY Ashes hero Ben Stokes’ brother and sister were killed . on 15:38 - Sep 17 with 978 views | Cooperman |
| STOKES' SECRET TRAGEDY Ashes hero Ben Stokes’ brother and sister were killed . on 15:12 - Sep 17 by bluey_the_blue |
People are interested in reading about backstories on celebrities. It's a double edged sword, celebrities are happy enough to carefully stage paparrazzi shots after all, have agents leak positive stories.
I disagree with the Sun invective, I've little doubt Mirror would have done the same. After all, News International got the stick over phone hacking, yet Mirror I believe paid out more in compensation - and hacking occurred by Mirror first.
I agree with you Stokes should criticise the woman giving the story. On the whole though, that story is pretty sympathetic to Stokes, the closeness to his mum being highlighted. I also highly doubt Stokes was unaware the story was being run nor was asked for comment.
Would it be different for you if it had been a story written on a purely "factual" basis without the woman's comments? |
I was certain that you’d be one of the first to declare the stance that you have. | |
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| STOKES' SECRET TRAGEDY Ashes hero Ben Stokes’ brother and sister were killed . on 15:41 - Sep 17 with 975 views | bluey_the_blue |
| STOKES' SECRET TRAGEDY Ashes hero Ben Stokes’ brother and sister were killed . on 15:31 - Sep 17 by londonlisa2001 |
To the surprise of no one, Bluey is unable to distinguish between things that are in the public interest and things that the public are interested in. |
It's an event that happened in his family history, Lisa.
Cynical old me has little doubt it would be written about / ghost written in his inevitable autobiography. Even more cynical me has little doubt it would be a main point in excerpt serialisation in a newspaper, no doubt a more upmarket one.
I get the point Stokes dislikes the narrative presented by the woman. That doesn't in itself mean no paper ever should even mention it. | | | |
| STOKES' SECRET TRAGEDY Ashes hero Ben Stokes’ brother and sister were killed . on 15:44 - Sep 17 with 965 views | squarebear |
Wait a minute. I'm mingling with Sun readers on here? That'll mean an extra scrub with the carbolic when I get home. | | | |
| STOKES' SECRET TRAGEDY Ashes hero Ben Stokes’ brother and sister were killed . on 15:47 - Sep 17 with 961 views | londonlisa2001 |
| STOKES' SECRET TRAGEDY Ashes hero Ben Stokes’ brother and sister were killed . on 15:41 - Sep 17 by bluey_the_blue |
It's an event that happened in his family history, Lisa.
Cynical old me has little doubt it would be written about / ghost written in his inevitable autobiography. Even more cynical me has little doubt it would be a main point in excerpt serialisation in a newspaper, no doubt a more upmarket one.
I get the point Stokes dislikes the narrative presented by the woman. That doesn't in itself mean no paper ever should even mention it. |
It is a grotesque and doubtless deeply hurtful invasion of the privacy of his mother who has not put herself in the public eye.
You have absolutely no idea whether he would have ever chosen to mention it. Even less idea whether he would have done so for material gain. And if he had, at least his mother would have had the opportunity to agree or otherwise to that publication. | | | |
| STOKES' SECRET TRAGEDY Ashes hero Ben Stokes’ brother and sister were killed . on 15:51 - Sep 17 with 952 views | Lohengrin |
| STOKES' SECRET TRAGEDY Ashes hero Ben Stokes’ brother and sister were killed . on 15:47 - Sep 17 by londonlisa2001 |
It is a grotesque and doubtless deeply hurtful invasion of the privacy of his mother who has not put herself in the public eye.
You have absolutely no idea whether he would have ever chosen to mention it. Even less idea whether he would have done so for material gain. And if he had, at least his mother would have had the opportunity to agree or otherwise to that publication. |
I know he wouldn’t, Lis. I’ve read his recent autobiography. | |
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| STOKES' SECRET TRAGEDY Ashes hero Ben Stokes’ brother and sister were killed . on 15:59 - Sep 17 with 935 views | WarwickHunt |
| STOKES' SECRET TRAGEDY Ashes hero Ben Stokes’ brother and sister were killed . on 15:44 - Sep 17 by squarebear |
Wait a minute. I'm mingling with Sun readers on here? That'll mean an extra scrub with the carbolic when I get home. |
You've only just noticed? |  | | |
| STOKES' SECRET TRAGEDY Ashes hero Ben Stokes’ brother and sister were killed . on 16:38 - Sep 17 with 895 views | Darran |
| STOKES' SECRET TRAGEDY Ashes hero Ben Stokes’ brother and sister were killed . on 15:44 - Sep 17 by squarebear |
Wait a minute. I'm mingling with Sun readers on here? That'll mean an extra scrub with the carbolic when I get home. |
I haven’t read it that’s why I asked Ebo the question above. Most people can’t help themselves.
Also this isn’t a go at The Wirral one but how many people on Merseyside have had Sky tv and even though Klopp said he’s not going to talk to The Sun you haven’t seen Liverpool FC refusing Murdochs Sky money. | |
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| STOKES' SECRET TRAGEDY Ashes hero Ben Stokes’ brother and sister were killed . on 16:38 - Sep 17 with 896 views | bluey_the_blue |
| STOKES' SECRET TRAGEDY Ashes hero Ben Stokes’ brother and sister were killed . on 15:47 - Sep 17 by londonlisa2001 |
It is a grotesque and doubtless deeply hurtful invasion of the privacy of his mother who has not put herself in the public eye.
You have absolutely no idea whether he would have ever chosen to mention it. Even less idea whether he would have done so for material gain. And if he had, at least his mother would have had the opportunity to agree or otherwise to that publication. |
That's the only thing I agree with you, on a limited point.
The woman's claims are certainly, not blaming it or excusing the actions based upon the mums alleged actions but certainly not helping.
That, I'd agree with you.
Question is, was Stokes ever aware of the story breaking, was he ever asked for comment / rebuttal.
Censoring the entire tragic murder on the other hand is completely wrong. It's something that sadly happened. | | | |
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