| Swansea City - Game management explained by Total Football Analysis 09:00 - Feb 4 with 829 views | SwansIndependent |
 Swansea City - Game management explained by Total Football Analysis 4th Feb 2021 09:00Another in-depth research piece from Total Football Analysis - consisting of an extremely absorbing and well written piece by Adam Scully. TFA have a superb history of quality analysis on professional football, and this article is an eye opener for all students of the game.  0
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| Swansea City - Game management explained by Total Football Analysis on 10:30 - Feb 4 with 792 views | vetchonian |
surprised there are no comments on this analysis | |
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| Swansea City - Game management explained by Total Football Analysis on 10:43 - Feb 4 with 779 views | swancity |
Very interesting read that. Probably a bit too technical and detailed for the likes of onehunglow mind 😂
Especially in relation to our unbelievable defensive record of only 15 goals conceded. In this division that takes some doing.
Our players deserve more praise for these achievements. To a man they’ve been awesome to be fair. | |
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| Swansea City - Game management explained by Total Football Analysis on 10:55 - Feb 4 with 756 views | onehunglow |
| Swansea City - Game management explained by Total Football Analysis on 10:43 - Feb 4 by swancity |
Very interesting read that. Probably a bit too technical and detailed for the likes of onehunglow mind 😂
Especially in relation to our unbelievable defensive record of only 15 goals conceded. In this division that takes some doing.
Our players deserve more praise for these achievements. To a man they’ve been awesome to be fair. |
Why personal.Why single me out? | |
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| Swansea City - Game management explained by Total Football Analysis on 11:16 - Feb 4 with 732 views | KeithHaynes |
Back on track, after reading the article what are your views, it isn't that difficult to understand, in fact it’s the best assessment I’ve read. Adam has done some seriously good work with this. Fire away. |  |
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| Swansea City - Game management explained by Total Football Analysis on 11:22 - Feb 4 with 725 views | swancity |
| Swansea City - Game management explained by Total Football Analysis on 10:55 - Feb 4 by onehunglow |
Why personal.Why single me out? |
Possibly because you’ve got the most to say, and are mainly critical, but with little idea of what on earth you’re talking about.
Crack on though if you’re enjoying yourself. 👠| |
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| Swansea City - Game management explained by Total Football Analysis on 11:24 - Feb 4 with 719 views | onehunglow |
| Swansea City - Game management explained by Total Football Analysis on 11:16 - Feb 4 by KeithHaynes |
Back on track, after reading the article what are your views, it isn't that difficult to understand, in fact it’s the best assessment I’ve read. Adam has done some seriously good work with this. Fire away. |
Wasn't exactly worthy of Hellenic Philosophy but I managed to grasp that. | |
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| Swansea City - Game management explained by Total Football Analysis on 11:30 - Feb 4 with 714 views | vetchonian |
| Swansea City - Game management explained by Total Football Analysis on 11:16 - Feb 4 by KeithHaynes |
Back on track, after reading the article what are your views, it isn't that difficult to understand, in fact it’s the best assessment I’ve read. Adam has done some seriously good work with this. Fire away. |
To me it shows how possibly many of us dont properly understand what is happening on the pitch.
I cant make out if this article is praising us and Cooper or making out we are over achieving
It does show that even though imany post here of his aversion to wingers we do mostly attack via the flanks...but through the use of the wing backs which also helps our defensive structure.
Interesting that the Brentford game was used a lot and in it the weaknesses of our system are highlighted with how we counteract this
We will always as individuals have differing opinions..about all topics not just managers and players...I hope this shows that we do appear to have a manager who does know what he is doing even if sometimes he does not behave as we would want or expect. | |
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| Swansea City - Game management explained by Total Football Analysis on 11:34 - Feb 4 with 705 views | KeithHaynes |
| Swansea City - Game management explained by Total Football Analysis on 11:30 - Feb 4 by vetchonian |
To me it shows how possibly many of us dont properly understand what is happening on the pitch.
I cant make out if this article is praising us and Cooper or making out we are over achieving
It does show that even though imany post here of his aversion to wingers we do mostly attack via the flanks...but through the use of the wing backs which also helps our defensive structure.
Interesting that the Brentford game was used a lot and in it the weaknesses of our system are highlighted with how we counteract this
We will always as individuals have differing opinions..about all topics not just managers and players...I hope this shows that we do appear to have a manager who does know what he is doing even if sometimes he does not behave as we would want or expect. |
I think the fact it’s hard for the reader to work out if he is praising Cooper or otherwise means it a balanced, fair and non partisan. | |
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| Swansea City - Game management explained by Total Football Analysis on 11:35 - Feb 4 with 700 views | onehunglow |
| Swansea City - Game management explained by Total Football Analysis on 11:30 - Feb 4 by vetchonian |
To me it shows how possibly many of us dont properly understand what is happening on the pitch.
I cant make out if this article is praising us and Cooper or making out we are over achieving
It does show that even though imany post here of his aversion to wingers we do mostly attack via the flanks...but through the use of the wing backs which also helps our defensive structure.
Interesting that the Brentford game was used a lot and in it the weaknesses of our system are highlighted with how we counteract this
We will always as individuals have differing opinions..about all topics not just managers and players...I hope this shows that we do appear to have a manager who does know what he is doing even if sometimes he does not behave as we would want or expect. |
Your second paragraph is key and the result are different opinions which we share.
Unless you are at the coalface ,you know nothing. | |
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| Swansea City - Game management explained by Total Football Analysis on 11:39 - Feb 4 with 691 views | KeithHaynes |
| Swansea City - Game management explained by Total Football Analysis on 11:35 - Feb 4 by onehunglow |
Your second paragraph is key and the result are different opinions which we share.
Unless you are at the coalface ,you know nothing. |
Or non judgemental and impartial ?
Adam has a long history of tactical analysis. | |
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| Swansea City - Game management explained by Total Football Analysis on 11:45 - Feb 4 with 673 views | onehunglow |
| Swansea City - Game management explained by Total Football Analysis on 11:39 - Feb 4 by KeithHaynes |
Or non judgemental and impartial ?
Adam has a long history of tactical analysis. |
I don't know who Adam is but I do now.
It indicates that we know less than we think.
Analysis? Don't start me off on that Guv as we'll be here all day and I know you'll want to have a dip in the pool soon. | |
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| Swansea City - Game management explained by Total Football Analysis on 12:00 - Feb 4 with 664 views | Catullus |
I think it is definitely praising Cooper for taking individual parts and making them add up to more than their total. Very much a case of 2+2 equals 5
It also points out that we need to keep overperforming and maybe we shouldn't be surprised if we fade away?
It also shows how Brentford (well Franks) managed such a great performance against us, he bypassed the midfield block getting the ball out wide from deep, using our low block against us before our defence could get back into position. This needed early runs and the early long ball which they did very effectively. We couldn't counter it but maybe coops learned from it.
Even though I think it is praise it is balanced, it points out our over performing according to the stats. It is statistical proof that you don't always need the best players to be the best team.
Lets hope Coops and the boys keep up the standards because the stats say if we do, we are going up! | |
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| Swansea City - Game management explained by Total Football Analysis on 12:28 - Feb 4 with 640 views | A_Fans_Dad |
One comment they made that I do not agree with.
"However, Swansea are excellent at stopping crosses into the box and so these areas are generally harmless for them."
I wouldn't say that we are "excellent" at stopping them as so much as dealing with them once they are made.
I am also not sure where their statistical analysis comes from where they say we are over-achieving, how do they decide that we should have 11 points less than we have had?
Are they in fact actually under estimating the scoring ability of the likes of Lowe? [Post edited 4 Feb 2021 14:46]
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| Swansea City - Game management explained by Total Football Analysis on 12:52 - Feb 4 with 605 views | swancity |
| Swansea City - Game management explained by Total Football Analysis on 12:28 - Feb 4 by A_Fans_Dad |
One comment they made that I do not agree with.
"However, Swansea are excellent at stopping crosses into the box and so these areas are generally harmless for them."
I wouldn't say that we are "excellent" at stopping them as so much as dealing with them once they are made.
I am also not sure where their statistical analysis comes from where they say we are over-achieving, how do they decide that we should have 11 points less than we have had?
Are they in fact actually under estimating the scoring ability of the likes of Lowe? [Post edited 4 Feb 2021 14:46]
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Overperforming by 11 points it says
Which is about right I’d say | |
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| Swansea City - Game management explained by Total Football Analysis on 13:29 - Feb 4 with 589 views | KeithHaynes |
| Swansea City - Game management explained by Total Football Analysis on 11:45 - Feb 4 by onehunglow |
I don't know who Adam is but I do now.
It indicates that we know less than we think.
Analysis? Don't start me off on that Guv as we'll be here all day and I know you'll want to have a dip in the pool soon. |
Not today mate, his positional breakdowns are the thing for me that tells the tale. | |
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| Swansea City - Game management explained by Total Football Analysis on 13:56 - Feb 4 with 561 views | AndyCole |
Excellent analysis and insight. Can he post more often especially on the matchday thread as tactics unfold ?
Shows there's method and substance in the level of control and confidence we have in our ability to get points if behind, and in our ability to go for the jugular when we're ahead. Our inner belief is massive, clearly founded on deep tactical awareness and doing the non-negotiables better than the opposition.
It also shows how well the team is drilled - they each know their jobs and execute the plan accordingly. Cooper trusts in them to deliver, which they do. Possibly explains to some why he appears calm, unanimated and doesn't make too many changes. If it ain't broke.
Hopefully the usual panic merchants will think before they post their overt criticisms on matchday threads - 'we're sitting too deep' is a favourite. We're playing Monk-ball another. | |
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| Swansea City - Game management explained by Total Football Analysis on 14:33 - Feb 4 with 539 views | NotLoyal |
| Swansea City - Game management explained by Total Football Analysis on 13:56 - Feb 4 by AndyCole |
Excellent analysis and insight. Can he post more often especially on the matchday thread as tactics unfold ?
Shows there's method and substance in the level of control and confidence we have in our ability to get points if behind, and in our ability to go for the jugular when we're ahead. Our inner belief is massive, clearly founded on deep tactical awareness and doing the non-negotiables better than the opposition.
It also shows how well the team is drilled - they each know their jobs and execute the plan accordingly. Cooper trusts in them to deliver, which they do. Possibly explains to some why he appears calm, unanimated and doesn't make too many changes. If it ain't broke.
Hopefully the usual panic merchants will think before they post their overt criticisms on matchday threads - 'we're sitting too deep' is a favourite. We're playing Monk-ball another. |
I'm in total agreement, every day on here is like the sun coming out and taking the glow to the darkest corners of the Swansea City way. |  |
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| Swansea City - Game management explained by Total Football Analysis on 14:34 - Feb 4 with 534 views | onehunglow |
| Swansea City - Game management explained by Total Football Analysis on 14:33 - Feb 4 by NotLoyal |
I'm in total agreement, every day on here is like the sun coming out and taking the glow to the darkest corners of the Swansea City way. |
That s almost Thomas Hardyesque | |
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| Swansea City - Game management explained by Total Football Analysis on 14:46 - Feb 4 with 527 views | A_Fans_Dad |
| Swansea City - Game management explained by Total Football Analysis on 12:52 - Feb 4 by swancity |
Overperforming by 11 points it says
Which is about right I’d say |
You are correct point, not goals, I will fix that.
But how do they calculate what we should have, what criteria do they use? | | | |
| Swansea City - Game management explained by Total Football Analysis on 15:10 - Feb 4 with 513 views | trampie |
| Swansea City - Game management explained by Total Football Analysis on 14:46 - Feb 4 by A_Fans_Dad |
You are correct point, not goals, I will fix that.
But how do they calculate what we should have, what criteria do they use? |
It's the old X's init butt.
I know our Sinn Fein friend has done a well researched article but he leaves it open that the Swans have been lucky (he doesn't directly say that but the stats he uses imply it), I don't think that is the case, ref decisions have as is typical for all Welsh teams on the whole gone against the Swans (particular early season), Swans have a good shot stopping goalie, we rarely lose our shape and are as good as most others in taking our rare chances that come our way, now we have somebody that can take a free kick and scores so I'm hoping our goalscoring stats improve, I think we can keep our form going, statos think we are going to collapse. [Post edited 4 Feb 2021 15:12]
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| Swansea City - Game management explained by Total Football Analysis on 16:30 - Feb 4 with 472 views | Catullus |
| Swansea City - Game management explained by Total Football Analysis on 15:10 - Feb 4 by trampie |
It's the old X's init butt.
I know our Sinn Fein friend has done a well researched article but he leaves it open that the Swans have been lucky (he doesn't directly say that but the stats he uses imply it), I don't think that is the case, ref decisions have as is typical for all Welsh teams on the whole gone against the Swans (particular early season), Swans have a good shot stopping goalie, we rarely lose our shape and are as good as most others in taking our rare chances that come our way, now we have somebody that can take a free kick and scores so I'm hoping our goalscoring stats improve, I think we can keep our form going, statos think we are going to collapse. [Post edited 4 Feb 2021 15:12]
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He doesn't really say we're lucky, he says the stats show we are overperforming. Take the Brentford game, we had 2 shots and scored 1, Brentford had 21 shots and scored....1. Staistically, ccording to possession, position and shots we should have lost easily
Against Rotherham we had 6 shots but they had 13 however we had 5 on target to their 2. 3 goals from 5 on target is very efficient.
I don't think decisions have gone against us on the whole either, we may be slightly worse off but it's not a yawning chasm, it's close I think.
What statos think is irrelevant, they all though Leicester were going to collpase, the statos, the pundits, other managers. What happens is largely down to us.
Ps, hoever it was who said if it aint broke....against Brentford it was broke, they had us on toast and we got lucky, maybe Cooper was confident we would cope, maybe we just got lucky. Cooper undoubtedly knows better than me but I think a higher press would have neutralised their long ball tactic that was giving us so much grief. Even then Frank may already have had something up his sleeve because he is also a very good manager. I'm just grateful we got the point and are in a position to challenge for top spot in the next few games. | |
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| Swansea City - Game management explained by Total Football Analysis on 18:02 - Feb 4 with 437 views | trampie |
| Swansea City - Game management explained by Total Football Analysis on 16:30 - Feb 4 by Catullus |
He doesn't really say we're lucky, he says the stats show we are overperforming. Take the Brentford game, we had 2 shots and scored 1, Brentford had 21 shots and scored....1. Staistically, ccording to possession, position and shots we should have lost easily
Against Rotherham we had 6 shots but they had 13 however we had 5 on target to their 2. 3 goals from 5 on target is very efficient.
I don't think decisions have gone against us on the whole either, we may be slightly worse off but it's not a yawning chasm, it's close I think.
What statos think is irrelevant, they all though Leicester were going to collpase, the statos, the pundits, other managers. What happens is largely down to us.
Ps, hoever it was who said if it aint broke....against Brentford it was broke, they had us on toast and we got lucky, maybe Cooper was confident we would cope, maybe we just got lucky. Cooper undoubtedly knows better than me but I think a higher press would have neutralised their long ball tactic that was giving us so much grief. Even then Frank may already have had something up his sleeve because he is also a very good manager. I'm just grateful we got the point and are in a position to challenge for top spot in the next few games. |
That is my point, Leicester were only the four best team the season they won the title according to the statos, Leicester most of the time came out second best on stats against the big 6 yet they won the league.
There are some similarities between the Swans of this season and Leicester of that season stats wise, Leicester were good defensively and hit teams on the break, Swans don't lose their shape and try and take their limited chances, both should be nowhere near were they were/are on the old expected goals stat line.
Leicester did have a lot of actual luck in running as well that season, Leicester was joint top in running in the luck stakes with either Liverpool or Man Utd (one was joint top with Leicester and one was 3rd I can't remember which way round now - not that it matters), Swansea was last - lots of goals not allowed for Swansea when they were goals and lots of goals against Swansea that should not have stood - those stats for the real table was at the end of February I think, I guess things did not change much come May. | |
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| Swansea City - Game management explained by Total Football Analysis on 19:43 - Feb 4 with 380 views | Catullus |
| Swansea City - Game management explained by Total Football Analysis on 18:02 - Feb 4 by trampie |
That is my point, Leicester were only the four best team the season they won the title according to the statos, Leicester most of the time came out second best on stats against the big 6 yet they won the league.
There are some similarities between the Swans of this season and Leicester of that season stats wise, Leicester were good defensively and hit teams on the break, Swans don't lose their shape and try and take their limited chances, both should be nowhere near were they were/are on the old expected goals stat line.
Leicester did have a lot of actual luck in running as well that season, Leicester was joint top in running in the luck stakes with either Liverpool or Man Utd (one was joint top with Leicester and one was 3rd I can't remember which way round now - not that it matters), Swansea was last - lots of goals not allowed for Swansea when they were goals and lots of goals against Swansea that should not have stood - those stats for the real table was at the end of February I think, I guess things did not change much come May. |
I think we are due a bit of luck. Good luck that is! We've been on the recieving end quite a bit, every mistake punished, 50/50 decisions always seeming to go against us.
Maybe this will be that season, things like our efficiency in front of goal, a bit of good luck and they go in more often as in our 3 out of 5 shots. | |
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