| MP stabbed on 15:02 - Oct 15 with 1582 views | 73__73 |
He’s been killed by some nutter |  |
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| MP stabbed on 15:53 - Oct 15 with 1529 views | KeithHaynes |
Not the first time this has happened. Very sad. |  |
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| MP stabbed on 16:35 - Oct 15 with 1492 views | Professor |
Dreadful. David Amess had served as an MP for close to 40 years. Constituency MPs are so vulnerable to this at surgeries. My MP is at the Friday market here most weeks chatting at the Labour Stall and over in Ellesmere Port on Saturdays. So sad if they need protection following this and Jo Cox | | | |
| MP stabbed on 16:47 - Oct 15 with 1460 views | KeithHaynes |
| MP stabbed on 16:35 - Oct 15 by Professor |
Dreadful. David Amess had served as an MP for close to 40 years. Constituency MPs are so vulnerable to this at surgeries. My MP is at the Friday market here most weeks chatting at the Labour Stall and over in Ellesmere Port on Saturdays. So sad if they need protection following this and Jo Cox |
Andrew Pennington some will remember being killed in Cheltenham with a sword in Nigel Jones surgery. | |
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| MP stabbed on 16:50 - Oct 15 with 1451 views | Professor |
| MP stabbed on 16:47 - Oct 15 by KeithHaynes |
Andrew Pennington some will remember being killed in Cheltenham with a sword in Nigel Jones surgery. |
That's right Keith. Basically protected the MP and lost his own life. Another Labour MP was also attacked about 10 years ago | | | |
| MP stabbed on 17:06 - Oct 15 with 1440 views | YrAlarch |
My fear is that this will mean that our MPs, MSs etc will become more remote from their constituents. Another blow to our democratic processes. | | | |
| MP stabbed on 17:23 - Oct 15 with 1415 views | Lohengrin |
| MP stabbed on 17:06 - Oct 15 by YrAlarch |
My fear is that this will mean that our MPs, MSs etc will become more remote from their constituents. Another blow to our democratic processes. |
“ Another blow to our democratic processes.”
I’d have thought the death knell on that sounded loud and clear in 1931 with Philip Snowden basing policy around calculations of what ‘The City’ would or wouldn’t be prepared to tolerate? |  |
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| MP stabbed on 18:10 - Oct 15 with 1370 views | YrAlarch |
| MP stabbed on 17:23 - Oct 15 by Lohengrin |
“ Another blow to our democratic processes.”
I’d have thought the death knell on that sounded loud and clear in 1931 with Philip Snowden basing policy around calculations of what ‘The City’ would or wouldn’t be prepared to tolerate? |
Or perhaps in 1910 when Churchill sent the troops in to Tonypandy to quell the Miners' Strike. | | | |
| MP stabbed on 18:16 - Oct 15 with 1364 views | jackrabbit |
Some nice tributes from Sir Keir and Lisa Nandy but nothing from Ange ‘Tory scum’ Rayner. I wonder why? Just the sort of oratory to appeal to a 25 year old loser with sh*t for brains - there are quite a few of them about. Time to chill and develop a sense of proportion. Another fine man unnecessarily lost to brutalist ignorance. |  | | |
| MP stabbed on 18:17 - Oct 15 with 1362 views | DwightYorkeSuperstar |
| MP stabbed on 18:10 - Oct 15 by YrAlarch |
Or perhaps in 1910 when Churchill sent the troops in to Tonypandy to quell the Miners' Strike. |
It's no longer a strike when you begin damaging property, looting and attacking the police. That is a riot. |  |
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| MP stabbed on 18:24 - Oct 15 with 1357 views | YrAlarch |
| MP stabbed on 18:17 - Oct 15 by DwightYorkeSuperstar |
It's no longer a strike when you begin damaging property, looting and attacking the police. That is a riot. |
Using troops to quell public disorder in a democratic state is not a democratic process. | | | |
| MP stabbed on 18:38 - Oct 15 with 1338 views | Treforys_Jack |
| MP stabbed on 18:24 - Oct 15 by YrAlarch |
Using troops to quell public disorder in a democratic state is not a democratic process. |
Different times. |  | | |
| MP stabbed on 18:46 - Oct 15 with 1325 views | Catullus |
| MP stabbed on 18:24 - Oct 15 by YrAlarch |
Using troops to quell public disorder in a democratic state is not a democratic process. |
Historians argue about this. Churchill denied ordering the troops in, said it was a request from the town mayor didn't he? Even then, Churchill is alleged to have ordered no shooting but an officer on the line gave that order.
It's something people will always argue about and will believe what they want to believe though.
The politics of hate have always been around. Maybe MP's need safe rooms for surgeries. Sealed off areas with bulletproof glass between them and constituents so they can still meet face to face.
Maybe they need "Pope mobiles" so they can have pop up surgeries across their areas? | |
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| MP stabbed on 18:57 - Oct 15 with 1308 views | 73__73 |
Looks like a terrorist attack. Is anyone surprised | |
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| MP stabbed on 18:58 - Oct 15 with 1312 views | majorraglan |
| MP stabbed on 18:16 - Oct 15 by jackrabbit |
Some nice tributes from Sir Keir and Lisa Nandy but nothing from Ange ‘Tory scum’ Rayner. I wonder why? Just the sort of oratory to appeal to a 25 year old loser with sh*t for brains - there are quite a few of them about. Time to chill and develop a sense of proportion. Another fine man unnecessarily lost to brutalist ignorance. |
A respected MP has been murdered and you feel the need to bring Angela Rayner in to things and turn it in to a party political thing.
I am no fan of Rayner or her ilk, but she did put out a tweet earlier this afternoon stating she was horrified with what had happened and that her thoughts were with David, she hoped he’d pull through OK. This indicates she posted before his death was common knowledge. Hardly nothing. Why don’t you do some checking before posting bilge?? | | | |
| MP stabbed on 19:04 - Oct 15 with 1304 views | Dr_Winston |
| MP stabbed on 18:58 - Oct 15 by majorraglan |
A respected MP has been murdered and you feel the need to bring Angela Rayner in to things and turn it in to a party political thing.
I am no fan of Rayner or her ilk, but she did put out a tweet earlier this afternoon stating she was horrified with what had happened and that her thoughts were with David, she hoped he’d pull through OK. This indicates she posted before his death was common knowledge. Hardly nothing. Why don’t you do some checking before posting bilge?? |
Unfortunately the kind of language used by Rayner (and others, I'm not claiming that it's a one sided affair) has contributed significantly to the polarisation of the political process basically everywhere.
It's not longer enough to disagree with people. You have to hate/demonise them as well. That only leads to this kind of thing. |  |
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| MP stabbed on 19:38 - Oct 15 with 1265 views | majorraglan |
Daily Mail reporting that a 25 year old male of Somalian background arrested and Counter Terrorism police leading the investigation. | | | |
| MP stabbed on 19:57 - Oct 15 with 1251 views | JACKMANANDBOY |
| MP stabbed on 19:04 - Oct 15 by Dr_Winston |
Unfortunately the kind of language used by Rayner (and others, I'm not claiming that it's a one sided affair) has contributed significantly to the polarisation of the political process basically everywhere.
It's not longer enough to disagree with people. You have to hate/demonise them as well. That only leads to this kind of thing. |
People seem to have forgotten that it is normal to disagree and debate issues without insulting, cancelling or threatening people. There are a few of these types on here.
By all accounts this was an honourable man.
RIP |  |
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| MP stabbed on 20:10 - Oct 15 with 1229 views | jackrabbit |
| MP stabbed on 18:58 - Oct 15 by majorraglan |
A respected MP has been murdered and you feel the need to bring Angela Rayner in to things and turn it in to a party political thing.
I am no fan of Rayner or her ilk, but she did put out a tweet earlier this afternoon stating she was horrified with what had happened and that her thoughts were with David, she hoped he’d pull through OK. This indicates she posted before his death was common knowledge. Hardly nothing. Why don’t you do some checking before posting bilge?? |
Why don’t you go boil your head. Going around calling Opposition MPs ‘scum’ is a contributory factor to the atmosphere of hate that results in semi-educated numpties like this murderer probably thinking that it is legitimate to stab to death, a Tory as they are scum - a Labour MP has said as much. I’m no great fan of this government but at least they treat the opposition as adults and not as objects of hate to be described in the language of a student socialist society. Because of people like Rayner, Thornberry and Abbott, plus to a lesser extent Lammy, Labour will remain a long time out of power. Amen to that. | | | |
| MP stabbed on 20:44 - Oct 15 with 1194 views | majorraglan |
| MP stabbed on 20:10 - Oct 15 by jackrabbit |
Why don’t you go boil your head. Going around calling Opposition MPs ‘scum’ is a contributory factor to the atmosphere of hate that results in semi-educated numpties like this murderer probably thinking that it is legitimate to stab to death, a Tory as they are scum - a Labour MP has said as much. I’m no great fan of this government but at least they treat the opposition as adults and not as objects of hate to be described in the language of a student socialist society. Because of people like Rayner, Thornberry and Abbott, plus to a lesser extent Lammy, Labour will remain a long time out of power. Amen to that. |
And your original post referring to Angela Rayner isn't adding to the climate of intolerance and hate?
Angela Rayner’s behaviour was completely unacceptable, my personal view is that it compromises her position as an MP and there are plenty of others sitting in parliament who aren’t fit to hold the office of MP. It’s being reported the person arrested is of Somali background and it looks like it’s terrorist related, he probably hasn’t even heard of Rayner. | | | |
| MP stabbed on 21:03 - Oct 15 with 1164 views | Flashberryjack |
| MP stabbed on 20:44 - Oct 15 by majorraglan |
And your original post referring to Angela Rayner isn't adding to the climate of intolerance and hate?
Angela Rayner’s behaviour was completely unacceptable, my personal view is that it compromises her position as an MP and there are plenty of others sitting in parliament who aren’t fit to hold the office of MP. It’s being reported the person arrested is of Somali background and it looks like it’s terrorist related, he probably hasn’t even heard of Rayner. |
Rayner and her ilk are the climate of intolerance., she demands tolerance off others, but shows none herself. |  |
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| MP stabbed on 00:36 - Oct 16 with 1045 views | Jack123 |
Bring back capital punishment, or stoning would be better, live streamed.. |  |
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| MP stabbed on 08:18 - Oct 16 with 974 views | Kilkennyjack |
| MP stabbed on 20:10 - Oct 15 by jackrabbit |
Why don’t you go boil your head. Going around calling Opposition MPs ‘scum’ is a contributory factor to the atmosphere of hate that results in semi-educated numpties like this murderer probably thinking that it is legitimate to stab to death, a Tory as they are scum - a Labour MP has said as much. I’m no great fan of this government but at least they treat the opposition as adults and not as objects of hate to be described in the language of a student socialist society. Because of people like Rayner, Thornberry and Abbott, plus to a lesser extent Lammy, Labour will remain a long time out of power. Amen to that. |
Sorry but supporters of this govt called judges ‘the enemies of the people’.
The Johnson Brit Nat culture war relies on division and fuelling ignorant hatreds in its support base. The EU are against us, Biden is against us, France is against us, Ireland is against us, Russia is against us, and domestically the SNP is against us.
None of this helps mature political discourse.
Its yah-boo politics of the worst kind.
And knowingly changing deals after you have signed them simply fosters mistrust.
RIP David Ames. |  |
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| MP stabbed on 08:21 - Oct 16 with 973 views | Kilkennyjack |
| MP stabbed on 18:17 - Oct 15 by DwightYorkeSuperstar |
It's no longer a strike when you begin damaging property, looting and attacking the police. That is a riot. |
When you send in troops, then guess what can happen …?
People can get shot.
Even Churchill will have known that. | |
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