| Frank Lampard & Mr Loophole 17:56 - Jan 17 with 2028 views | britferry |
Caught driving with a mobile in one hand and a coffee in the other... and he gets off, as they can't prove he was actually using the mobile
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| Frank Lampard & Mr Loophole on 18:08 - Jan 17 with 1580 views | Whiterockin |
Phone records and phone tracker? |  | | |
| Frank Lampard & Mr Loophole on 20:58 - Jan 17 with 1487 views | Brynmill_Jack |
Is Mr Loophole the nickname for what he was using to steer?? |  |
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| Frank Lampard & Mr Loophole on 21:00 - Jan 17 with 1481 views | builthjack |
Money talks. |  |
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| Frank Lampard & Mr Loophole on 22:18 - Jan 17 with 1444 views | britferry |
| Frank Lampard & Mr Loophole on 20:58 - Jan 17 by Brynmill_Jack |
Is Mr Loophole the nickname for what he was using to steer?? |
that would explain how he pulled Christine I suppose | |
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| Frank Lampard & Mr Loophole on 22:27 - Jan 17 with 1420 views | jack_lord |
| Frank Lampard & Mr Loophole on 22:18 - Jan 17 by britferry |
that would explain how he pulled Christine I suppose |
I thought they could still get him for not being in control of the vehicle though? |  |
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| Frank Lampard & Mr Loophole on 23:40 - Jan 17 with 1385 views | majorraglan |
| Frank Lampard & Mr Loophole on 18:08 - Jan 17 by Whiterockin |
Phone records and phone tracker? |
Getting access to phone usage data is controlled by the Regulation of Investigatory Powers Act 2000, it can be a complex and applications have to be lawful and proportionate and can only be approved under certain circumstances, I suspect that for a driving offence it wouldn’t be considered proportionate. | | | |
| Frank Lampard & Mr Loophole on 23:55 - Jan 17 with 1371 views | majorraglan |
| Frank Lampard & Mr Loophole on 22:27 - Jan 17 by jack_lord |
I thought they could still get him for not being in control of the vehicle though? |
To prove the initial offence the police would have had to show he was using the phone for communication which they couldn't hence the case collapsing.
The police /CPS should have summonsed/charged him with using the phone and the alternative you’ve identified of not being in proper control, but I suspect they’ve dropped the ball. Lampard failed to pay the fixed penalty, time has marched on, I suspect it’s gone beyond the 6 month statute of limitation for a summary only offence and it’s too late to add the alternative summons/charge. Courts are under pressure for time and I suspect that’s not helped, I am not an expert on this, maybe Sir John can be more precise. [Post edited 18 Jan 2022 1:08]
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| Frank Lampard & Mr Loophole on 00:11 - Jan 18 with 1364 views | KeithHaynes |
| Frank Lampard & Mr Loophole on 23:40 - Jan 17 by majorraglan |
Getting access to phone usage data is controlled by the Regulation of Investigatory Powers Act 2000, it can be a complex and applications have to be lawful and proportionate and can only be approved under certain circumstances, I suspect that for a driving offence it wouldn’t be considered proportionate. |
Bloody nightmare RIPA, I doubt anyone would authorise it for that mind.You are right there.
Although it’s intrusive surveillance, it’s more about impactive crime and major crime, Good knowledge there though mate 👠|  |
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| Frank Lampard & Mr Loophole on 09:48 - Jan 18 with 1264 views | Luther27 |
| Frank Lampard & Mr Loophole on 23:55 - Jan 17 by majorraglan |
To prove the initial offence the police would have had to show he was using the phone for communication which they couldn't hence the case collapsing.
The police /CPS should have summonsed/charged him with using the phone and the alternative you’ve identified of not being in proper control, but I suspect they’ve dropped the ball. Lampard failed to pay the fixed penalty, time has marched on, I suspect it’s gone beyond the 6 month statute of limitation for a summary only offence and it’s too late to add the alternative summons/charge. Courts are under pressure for time and I suspect that’s not helped, I am not an expert on this, maybe Sir John can be more precise. [Post edited 18 Jan 2022 1:08]
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Vera never has a problem when she asks Kenny to get phone records mind….. | | | |
| Frank Lampard & Mr Loophole on 10:14 - Jan 18 with 1238 views | Boundy |
Perhaps he used Saul Goodman as his defence lawyer , if ever a case and legal representative were well suited this would have been a match made in heaven | |
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| Frank Lampard & Mr Loophole on 11:46 - Jan 18 with 1200 views | Sirjohnalot |
| Frank Lampard & Mr Loophole on 22:27 - Jan 17 by jack_lord |
I thought they could still get him for not being in control of the vehicle though? |
Absolutely they can. It may be that they left it too late to do it as it would have been over 6 months, but case law does allow you to amend it if falls from the same circumstances.
It's not worth it to look at phone tracking. There's backlogs for years for phone tracking in sex and drugs cases. It is not worth it for road traffic.
I used to hate road traffic law. |  | | |
| Frank Lampard & Mr Loophole on 11:48 - Jan 18 with 1195 views | Sirjohnalot |
| Frank Lampard & Mr Loophole on 23:55 - Jan 17 by majorraglan |
To prove the initial offence the police would have had to show he was using the phone for communication which they couldn't hence the case collapsing.
The police /CPS should have summonsed/charged him with using the phone and the alternative you’ve identified of not being in proper control, but I suspect they’ve dropped the ball. Lampard failed to pay the fixed penalty, time has marched on, I suspect it’s gone beyond the 6 month statute of limitation for a summary only offence and it’s too late to add the alternative summons/charge. Courts are under pressure for time and I suspect that’s not helped, I am not an expert on this, maybe Sir John can be more precise. [Post edited 18 Jan 2022 1:08]
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You're more of less spot on. I believe that the law is changed now re the specific usage of the phone and that is no either longer a defence or it is shortly to be amended. | | | |
| Frank Lampard & Mr Loophole on 11:54 - Jan 18 with 1189 views | onehunglow |
| Frank Lampard & Mr Loophole on 11:48 - Jan 18 by Sirjohnalot |
You're more of less spot on. I believe that the law is changed now re the specific usage of the phone and that is no either longer a defence or it is shortly to be amended. |
Bottom line is this fella driving a high powered vehicle with neither hand in control of the vehicle.
Smoking a fag is dangerous enough.
Traffic fatalities are no joke and are the biggest cause of death in young men.
Your granddaughter could be crossing the road whilst Frank is chatting to his missus about what to do with the staff. "It happened so quickly".Is right | |
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| Frank Lampard & Mr Loophole on 12:10 - Jan 18 with 1179 views | CountyJim |
Photo looks altered to me I'm no expert mind |  | | |
| Frank Lampard & Mr Loophole on 17:20 - Jan 18 with 1108 views | britferry |
| Frank Lampard & Mr Loophole on 12:10 - Jan 18 by CountyJim |
Photo looks altered to me I'm no expert mind |
there is a whole video of the incident
The cyclist is renowned for it, previously caught Guy Ritchie and Chris Eubank, who was in an open top car. He has earned the coppers £100k in fines | |
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| Frank Lampard & Mr Loophole on 17:28 - Jan 18 with 1106 views | onehunglow |
| Frank Lampard & Mr Loophole on 17:20 - Jan 18 by britferry |
there is a whole video of the incident
The cyclist is renowned for it, previously caught Guy Ritchie and Chris Eubank, who was in an open top car. He has earned the coppers £100k in fines |
But it’s not “ the coppers” who benefit.
Personally,I don’t like people driving high powered cars in urban areas drinking coffee or having anything in their hands .
You need both hands to have full control.
One day karma will strike Mr Freeman .
Our roads are more dangerous due to cutbacks in coppers especially traffic coppers,the ones who drag bodies out of cars crashed by people who are pyssed or drugged .
Depends on whether you like human rights. The right for someone not to be killed by people who really are not concentrating on driving.
Cars are people shown personal little world .
Dismembered babies in cars and countless death messages are something coppers ,pigs to many,deal with. The stuff Joe public can’t handle . | |
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| Frank Lampard & Mr Loophole on 19:35 - Jan 18 with 1076 views | Sirjohnalot |
| Frank Lampard & Mr Loophole on 17:28 - Jan 18 by onehunglow |
But it’s not “ the coppers” who benefit.
Personally,I don’t like people driving high powered cars in urban areas drinking coffee or having anything in their hands .
You need both hands to have full control.
One day karma will strike Mr Freeman .
Our roads are more dangerous due to cutbacks in coppers especially traffic coppers,the ones who drag bodies out of cars crashed by people who are pyssed or drugged .
Depends on whether you like human rights. The right for someone not to be killed by people who really are not concentrating on driving.
Cars are people shown personal little world .
Dismembered babies in cars and countless death messages are something coppers ,pigs to many,deal with. The stuff Joe public can’t handle . |
I agree with you. It’s only when you’ve dealt with death by dangerous or due care cases and seen the pics where you realise how dangerous they are | | | |
| Frank Lampard & Mr Loophole on 19:39 - Jan 18 with 1062 views | Lohengrin |
Lampard was crawling through West Kens at about 1mph. He could have been playing maracas, singing La Cucaracha and it wouldn’t have constituted dangerous driving.
Whatever happened to perspective? |  |
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| Frank Lampard & Mr Loophole on 19:54 - Jan 18 with 1043 views | jack_lord |
| Frank Lampard & Mr Loophole on 11:46 - Jan 18 by Sirjohnalot |
Absolutely they can. It may be that they left it too late to do it as it would have been over 6 months, but case law does allow you to amend it if falls from the same circumstances.
It's not worth it to look at phone tracking. There's backlogs for years for phone tracking in sex and drugs cases. It is not worth it for road traffic.
I used to hate road traffic law. |
My daughter will be studying Law from the Autumn. Any advice from the off? | |
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| Frank Lampard & Mr Loophole on 19:58 - Jan 18 with 1040 views | Lohengrin |
| Frank Lampard & Mr Loophole on 19:54 - Jan 18 by jack_lord |
My daughter will be studying Law from the Autumn. Any advice from the off? |
Tell her to specialise in divorce. Just like undertakers and barbers she’ll never lack for work! 😊 | |
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| Frank Lampard & Mr Loophole on 20:39 - Jan 18 with 1015 views | onehunglow |
| Frank Lampard & Mr Loophole on 19:54 - Jan 18 by jack_lord |
My daughter will be studying Law from the Autumn. Any advice from the off? |
Got a niece who s a doctor in Aand E in Devon.Don't let your daughter get into medicine.It's not for the faint hearted . | |
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| Frank Lampard & Mr Loophole on 21:43 - Jan 18 with 994 views | Sirjohnalot |
| Frank Lampard & Mr Loophole on 19:54 - Jan 18 by jack_lord |
My daughter will be studying Law from the Autumn. Any advice from the off? |
Enjoy it. I grew up watching LA Law, Kavanagh QC and then This Life. All I wanted to do was criminal Law. 20 years since starting, despite my complaining about it, I still love it. Look at the debates I’ve got into on here and the pelters I’ve got off some posters. No one ever gets passionate like that over conveyancing or commercial law. If you’re good enough, you’ll earn a good wage.
Nothing beats doing your closing to a jury and the nervousness when they return with a verdict.
More than happy to dm you if you need any more details, links to people on Twitter in criminal law she can follow etc
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| Frank Lampard & Mr Loophole on 21:48 - Jan 18 with 984 views | KeithHaynes |
| Frank Lampard & Mr Loophole on 17:20 - Jan 18 by britferry |
there is a whole video of the incident
The cyclist is renowned for it, previously caught Guy Ritchie and Chris Eubank, who was in an open top car. He has earned the coppers £100k in fines |
If that was the case I would have joined up 😂 | |
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| Frank Lampard & Mr Loophole on 21:54 - Jan 18 with 973 views | majorraglan |
| Frank Lampard & Mr Loophole on 17:20 - Jan 18 by britferry |
there is a whole video of the incident
The cyclist is renowned for it, previously caught Guy Ritchie and Chris Eubank, who was in an open top car. He has earned the coppers £100k in fines |
Court fines go to the government, fees generated by safety camera partnerships and the police in respect of driver awareness courses etc are reinvested in road safety. | | | |
| Frank Lampard & Mr Loophole on 22:08 - Jan 18 with 965 views | jack_lord |
| Frank Lampard & Mr Loophole on 21:43 - Jan 18 by Sirjohnalot |
Enjoy it. I grew up watching LA Law, Kavanagh QC and then This Life. All I wanted to do was criminal Law. 20 years since starting, despite my complaining about it, I still love it. Look at the debates I’ve got into on here and the pelters I’ve got off some posters. No one ever gets passionate like that over conveyancing or commercial law. If you’re good enough, you’ll earn a good wage.
Nothing beats doing your closing to a jury and the nervousness when they return with a verdict.
More than happy to dm you if you need any more details, links to people on Twitter in criminal law she can follow etc
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All my daughter has ever wanted to do is Law. She certainly likes to debate, some call it arguing, and we are not talking at moment because of the latest heated debate.
She is waiting to hear if she has been accepted at the college she has dreamed about.
DM's would be great. | |
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