| Swansea 19:28 - Aug 25 with 3782 views | Togg |
Okay it's not perfect but where is? The town centre has a number of problems but the gateway in is now looking a lot better. However when people say Swansea is a dump thats so far from the truth. No matter what your social up bringing is, you are only a bus ride away from Langland, Caswell etc. We have the village of Mumbles the envy of many. The wonderful unspoilt Gower coastline and beautiful parks.
I know loads of people from parts of the UK and Europe who love living here. How many have been students and stayed...the graveyard of ambition.. Maybe because we are not a rich City but if you have a reasonable job you will have a better standard of living then you would in the Home Counties. Also I know a lot of middle age Swansea people who have worked in parts of England, sold up retired and with the excess of house value have moved to so called posh areas with change to spare.
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| Swansea on 20:18 - Aug 25 with 2506 views | 1983 |
Swansea, Wales & the Welsh are good at under selling themselves and always have been and it really annoys me.. I moved away from Swansea nearly 20yrs ago and lived in a couple of places in England, I come back to Swansea about once or twice a year and see what is happening to the place and its no different to any other average town / small city in the UK of Swansea stature. I do believe Swansea has turned a corner now and will only get bigger and better especially as we are branching out of the city centre in other directions at long last the docks and up to Morriston there is a lot of prime land beyond the stadium along the river that's just waiting to be developed. |  |
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| Swansea on 20:33 - Aug 25 with 2480 views | union_jack |
| Swansea on 20:18 - Aug 25 by 1983 |
Swansea, Wales & the Welsh are good at under selling themselves and always have been and it really annoys me.. I moved away from Swansea nearly 20yrs ago and lived in a couple of places in England, I come back to Swansea about once or twice a year and see what is happening to the place and its no different to any other average town / small city in the UK of Swansea stature. I do believe Swansea has turned a corner now and will only get bigger and better especially as we are branching out of the city centre in other directions at long last the docks and up to Morriston there is a lot of prime land beyond the stadium along the river that's just waiting to be developed. |
There is a big socio-economic imbalance in Swansea, more so than I’ve experienced elsewhere.
There’s poverty and deprivation in parts, though not as bad as some places and great wealth in others and you can draw a line basically between the two on a map.
The city centre has suffered no doubt but now there is a vibrant night life for young and older with good bars and restaurants all located in close proximity.
As for Mumbles and Gower, there are few rivals and having run a holiday home business until recently, I used to hear first hand what visitors thought of the area - all extremely positive.
There are worse places to be! |  |
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| Swansea on 20:40 - Aug 25 with 2476 views | Sirjohnalot |
I live not far away from the Lakes and Peak Districts, Derbyshire’s hills, really pretty .
Whenever I come home, even the mountains along the m4 and the hills coming into Neath down the Heads of the Valleys are breathtaking . The Gnoll grounds are beautiful, Aberdulais is gorgeous, but the Swansea coast line in stunning. Absolutely glorious. We are so pessimistic in Wales and run ourselves down for fear of being cocky or arrogant.
Be proud of your stunning area, really miss the beaches down there.
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| Swansea on 20:48 - Aug 25 with 2455 views | Togg |
Yes we run ourselves down. Maybe a Welsh trait?
People are quick to go to Devon and Cornwall, myself included and wonderful they are too. However Gower should be equally as popular.
Disparity of wealth in the City is a big one but you do have areas where younger people can still get on the property ladder . Not the same in Cornwall. | | | |
| Swansea on 20:51 - Aug 25 with 2432 views | union_jack |
| Swansea on 20:48 - Aug 25 by Togg |
Yes we run ourselves down. Maybe a Welsh trait?
People are quick to go to Devon and Cornwall, myself included and wonderful they are too. However Gower should be equally as popular.
Disparity of wealth in the City is a big one but you do have areas where younger people can still get on the property ladder . Not the same in Cornwall. |
The property ladder is hard to get on anywhere but you’re absolutely right about my early years homeground, Cornwall. It’s a wonderful place to live though. | |
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| Swansea on 20:53 - Aug 25 with 2424 views | Dr_Winston |
Swansea City centre has its problems, but so do most city centres. Piccadilly Gardens in Manchester makes Swansea City centre look like Monaco. Bristol city centre near the bus station used to be a right sh*thole too.
Back in my old job I used to deal with a lot of recent graduates. People who had come to Swansea to study, but had no intention of going home because life was so much better here.
Sure, the shopping wasn't great and there wasn't much highly paid employment around, but it didn't matter because houses were affordable on the average wage and the compensations in terms of surroundings and lifestyle more than made up for it.
On your last point, I know a guy who worked as an electrical engineer on the London Underground for 45 years. Retired to Swansea because his sister lives here, sold his house in London, bought a 3 bed detached place on the Gower for £300,000 and still had a quarter of a million left over. [Post edited 25 Aug 2022 21:03]
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| Swansea on 21:00 - Aug 25 with 2408 views | Sirjohnalot |
| Swansea on 20:53 - Aug 25 by Dr_Winston |
Swansea City centre has its problems, but so do most city centres. Piccadilly Gardens in Manchester makes Swansea City centre look like Monaco. Bristol city centre near the bus station used to be a right sh*thole too.
Back in my old job I used to deal with a lot of recent graduates. People who had come to Swansea to study, but had no intention of going home because life was so much better here.
Sure, the shopping wasn't great and there wasn't much highly paid employment around, but it didn't matter because houses were affordable on the average wage and the compensations in terms of surroundings and lifestyle more than made up for it.
On your last point, I know a guy who worked as an electrical engineer on the London Underground for 45 years. Retired to Swansea because his sister lives here, sold his house in London, bought a 3 bed detached place on the Gower for £300,000 and still had a quarter of a million left over. [Post edited 25 Aug 2022 21:03]
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Piccadilly Gardens……twinned with Helmand Province.
They’re trying their best to regenerate it | | | |
| Swansea on 21:02 - Aug 25 with 2401 views | Togg |
| Swansea on 20:53 - Aug 25 by Dr_Winston |
Swansea City centre has its problems, but so do most city centres. Piccadilly Gardens in Manchester makes Swansea City centre look like Monaco. Bristol city centre near the bus station used to be a right sh*thole too.
Back in my old job I used to deal with a lot of recent graduates. People who had come to Swansea to study, but had no intention of going home because life was so much better here.
Sure, the shopping wasn't great and there wasn't much highly paid employment around, but it didn't matter because houses were affordable on the average wage and the compensations in terms of surroundings and lifestyle more than made up for it.
On your last point, I know a guy who worked as an electrical engineer on the London Underground for 45 years. Retired to Swansea because his sister lives here, sold his house in London, bought a 3 bed detached place on the Gower for £300,000 and still had a quarter of a million left over. [Post edited 25 Aug 2022 21:03]
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Great post Dr and these people will put money into the local community.
Spoke to a guy about 5 years back in Southern Spain on holiday. In his mid 60's (at least) still working in the building trade. Lived in a terraced house in London. I asked him how much his house would be worth? Think he said about a million. I said what are you doing, you could sell up and get a villa and still have money to spare. The answer, I need to help my kids on the property ladder. | | | |
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| Swansea on 21:05 - Aug 25 with 2392 views | Dr_Winston |
| Swansea on 21:00 - Aug 25 by Sirjohnalot |
Piccadilly Gardens……twinned with Helmand Province.
They’re trying their best to regenerate it |
On the face of it it doesn't look too bad, but there's more beggars per square yard than anywhere I've been in my life. | |
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| Swansea on 21:10 - Aug 25 with 2388 views | Sirjohnalot |
| Swansea on 21:05 - Aug 25 by Dr_Winston |
On the face of it it doesn't look too bad, but there's more beggars per square yard than anywhere I've been in my life. |
It’s Spice, horrible thing, really screws people up. | | | |
| Swansea on 21:12 - Aug 25 with 2378 views | Togg |
| Swansea on 21:10 - Aug 25 by Sirjohnalot |
It’s Spice, horrible thing, really screws people up. |
It's a problem here as well John. Can't comment on other areas. Terrible drug | | | |
| Swansea on 21:19 - Aug 25 with 2349 views | Dr_Winston |
| Swansea on 21:10 - Aug 25 by Sirjohnalot |
It’s Spice, horrible thing, really screws people up. |
My old boss walked from High St down to Castle Square and back a couple of years ago. Passed eleven people zonked out on the pavement in the process. | |
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| Swansea on 21:40 - Aug 25 with 2327 views | Sirjohnalot |
| Swansea on 21:19 - Aug 25 by Dr_Winston |
My old boss walked from High St down to Castle Square and back a couple of years ago. Passed eleven people zonked out on the pavement in the process. |
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| Swansea on 09:55 - Aug 26 with 2194 views | onehunglow |
Piccadilly Gardens is indeed shocking but not far away is real wealth
Swansea has always had nice areas away from the former industrial east and valley.
What has changed is the centre which was a real hub but ,as has been aid,many cities are the same.
Was out in Liverpool yesterday morning and homeless/druggies outside train stations and in Church St,yet,300 yards away the regeneration continues with mega expensive apartment blocks being built and sold .
Swansea is nowhere near as diverse as Wirral where the old wealth stares one in the face but 10 mins away are some of the grimmest estates imaginable although they have improved over the past 20 years.Ive always thought Swansea had less abject poverty than Wirral say but less grandiose property .
Swansea is noticeably damp though,normally.
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| Swansea on 09:24 - Aug 27 with 2088 views | PawelAbbott |
The problem I find with Swansea is that the mentality of the people holds them back.
If I get in to a conversation with people about wages and someone earns a very average way, someone will say "That's good money for Swansea".
What does that mean? Do you get a discount card at the shops with your SA postcode? Are cars or holidays cheaper when you tell them your from Swansea?
No, they're not!!
If its not good money for Cardiff or Bristol or London. Then it's not good money here either. You shouldn't accept it as that and should be asking your employer why they think they can pay less here than they would elsewhere.
I know people in Swansea who work for less than the guys on my team who are in India, for the same job!!
Secondly, I work in computing. In any other place I've worked you have to get your work done and be available for meetings. In all other aspects you sort out your own working times. If you want to work early and leave early, go ahead.
In the any of the places I've worked in Swansea, and I hear the same from other people, that's not the case. It's 8:30 to 5:30 with 12 to 1 for lunch. Why??? How is that conducive to being productive. I've never seem that anywhere outside of Swansea | | | |
| Swansea on 14:09 - Aug 27 with 2022 views | Treforys_Jack |
| Swansea on 09:24 - Aug 27 by PawelAbbott |
The problem I find with Swansea is that the mentality of the people holds them back.
If I get in to a conversation with people about wages and someone earns a very average way, someone will say "That's good money for Swansea".
What does that mean? Do you get a discount card at the shops with your SA postcode? Are cars or holidays cheaper when you tell them your from Swansea?
No, they're not!!
If its not good money for Cardiff or Bristol or London. Then it's not good money here either. You shouldn't accept it as that and should be asking your employer why they think they can pay less here than they would elsewhere.
I know people in Swansea who work for less than the guys on my team who are in India, for the same job!!
Secondly, I work in computing. In any other place I've worked you have to get your work done and be available for meetings. In all other aspects you sort out your own working times. If you want to work early and leave early, go ahead.
In the any of the places I've worked in Swansea, and I hear the same from other people, that's not the case. It's 8:30 to 5:30 with 12 to 1 for lunch. Why??? How is that conducive to being productive. I've never seem that anywhere outside of Swansea |
It doesn't mean that, it means there aren't that many well paid jobs in Swansea, as in highly skilled. We don't get paid less than other people for doing the same job. |  | | |
| Swansea on 14:45 - Aug 27 with 1997 views | Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
I was chatting up a barmaid in Cyprus and she asked me where I was from and she said her brother had studied in Swansea, fell in love with the place and never left. |  |
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| Swansea on 14:50 - Aug 27 with 1994 views | PawelAbbott |
| Swansea on 14:09 - Aug 27 by Treforys_Jack |
It doesn't mean that, it means there aren't that many well paid jobs in Swansea, as in highly skilled. We don't get paid less than other people for doing the same job. |
I'm talking about people who are doing the same job in Swansea that they could do in Cardiff for 30-40% more.
If people accept that they'll be paid less in Swansea then it gets perpetuated.
Don't accept it. That sort of "it's good money for Swansea" attitude feeds in to it. | | | |
| Swansea on 06:33 - Aug 28 with 1868 views | Treforys_Jack |
| Swansea on 14:50 - Aug 27 by PawelAbbott |
I'm talking about people who are doing the same job in Swansea that they could do in Cardiff for 30-40% more.
If people accept that they'll be paid less in Swansea then it gets perpetuated.
Don't accept it. That sort of "it's good money for Swansea" attitude feeds in to it. |
Does that happen then ? Never heard that before | | | |
| Swansea on 06:44 - Aug 28 with 1862 views | builthjack |
| Swansea on 21:40 - Aug 25 by Sirjohnalot |
Same effect in the game against Luton |
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| Swansea on 08:07 - Aug 28 with 1826 views | PawelAbbott |
| Swansea on 06:33 - Aug 28 by Treforys_Jack |
Does that happen then ? Never heard that before |
Yes, there is a huge difference in wages for some jobs.
There are bigger companies in Cardiff. Swansea firms tend to be small startups. I can't think of any Swansea based firms that have grown to a large size.
Even firms like GoCompare come out of the Valleys. There are good sized firms from Bridgend. I'd struggle to name 1 in Swansea. | | | |
| Swansea on 09:57 - Aug 28 with 1773 views | Dr_Winston |
| Swansea on 14:45 - Aug 27 by Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
I was chatting up a barmaid in Cyprus and she asked me where I was from and she said her brother had studied in Swansea, fell in love with the place and never left. |
It's a story I heard a lot. Particularly students who lived in the Uplands/Brynmill/Sketty area. If the weather is nice, finish in Uni for the day, head to the beach or even Singleton Park (underrated as an attraction) for a few hours then a 15/20 minute walk home. | |
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| Swansea on 10:22 - Aug 28 with 1766 views | Brynmill_Jack |
| Swansea on 20:40 - Aug 25 by Sirjohnalot |
I live not far away from the Lakes and Peak Districts, Derbyshire’s hills, really pretty .
Whenever I come home, even the mountains along the m4 and the hills coming into Neath down the Heads of the Valleys are breathtaking . The Gnoll grounds are beautiful, Aberdulais is gorgeous, but the Swansea coast line in stunning. Absolutely glorious. We are so pessimistic in Wales and run ourselves down for fear of being cocky or arrogant.
Be proud of your stunning area, really miss the beaches down there.
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A positive Welsh mainstream media endorsement of Swansea and Gower - ever seen/heard any?
The promotion of the fragile confidence of the City of Cardiff takes much more precedence over the rest of Wales - but Swansea comes last behind all of them. Drakeford and his Cardiff bay cabal spend millions upon millions on trying to make Cardiff the new Heathrow when it will never reach the status Bristol has achieved. Bournemouth and Southampton airports are nearer the standing of Rhoose.
As for the promotion side - I honestly believe that they can’t recreate the Gower in South Glamorgan so they just pretend our jewel doesn’t exist. And even the beach here five minutes from my house is lovely , criminally underrated.,The water is clear, the sand is fine and the curve of the coast from dock wall to Mumbles has its own splendour. When the tide is fully in on a warm sunny day you could be forgiven for thinking you were somewhere in the Mediterranean.
All the talk of “Wales together” is just hollow bullsh*t emanating out of Cardiff bay.
I’ve lived for a time on the Cardigan bay coast and listened to the Brummies waxing lyrically all over it . I’ll agree Mwnt is nice it’s got nothing on our bays. The water is colder and the weather is always a couple of degrees down on us due to being north of the Prescelli mountains.
Pembrokeshire again is lovely in parts but I believe personally the Gower beats it because it’s so compact.
Besides I suppose should we really care that they don’t promote us? Let them enjoy Cardiff docks and keep them there I say. We can enjoy our beautiful coast and our resurgent City and keep them to ourselves. |  |
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| Swansea on 13:13 - Aug 28 with 1730 views | onehunglow |
| Swansea on 10:22 - Aug 28 by Brynmill_Jack |
A positive Welsh mainstream media endorsement of Swansea and Gower - ever seen/heard any?
The promotion of the fragile confidence of the City of Cardiff takes much more precedence over the rest of Wales - but Swansea comes last behind all of them. Drakeford and his Cardiff bay cabal spend millions upon millions on trying to make Cardiff the new Heathrow when it will never reach the status Bristol has achieved. Bournemouth and Southampton airports are nearer the standing of Rhoose.
As for the promotion side - I honestly believe that they can’t recreate the Gower in South Glamorgan so they just pretend our jewel doesn’t exist. And even the beach here five minutes from my house is lovely , criminally underrated.,The water is clear, the sand is fine and the curve of the coast from dock wall to Mumbles has its own splendour. When the tide is fully in on a warm sunny day you could be forgiven for thinking you were somewhere in the Mediterranean.
All the talk of “Wales together” is just hollow bullsh*t emanating out of Cardiff bay.
I’ve lived for a time on the Cardigan bay coast and listened to the Brummies waxing lyrically all over it . I’ll agree Mwnt is nice it’s got nothing on our bays. The water is colder and the weather is always a couple of degrees down on us due to being north of the Prescelli mountains.
Pembrokeshire again is lovely in parts but I believe personally the Gower beats it because it’s so compact.
Besides I suppose should we really care that they don’t promote us? Let them enjoy Cardiff docks and keep them there I say. We can enjoy our beautiful coast and our resurgent City and keep them to ourselves. |
Are you saying Swansea Bay water is crystal clear? | |
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| Swansea on 18:05 - Aug 28 with 1714 views | Treforys_Jack |
| Swansea on 08:07 - Aug 28 by PawelAbbott |
Yes, there is a huge difference in wages for some jobs.
There are bigger companies in Cardiff. Swansea firms tend to be small startups. I can't think of any Swansea based firms that have grown to a large size.
Even firms like GoCompare come out of the Valleys. There are good sized firms from Bridgend. I'd struggle to name 1 in Swansea. |
Someone who works in Tesco in Swansea gets the same money as someone working at any other Tesco in the UK, its true that there are better paid jobs elsewhere but that's not down to the Swansea public accepting lower pay than anywhere else. [Post edited 30 Aug 2022 18:45]
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