| Bike v Car 10:51 - Nov 8 with 2043 views | britferry |
Ok, who is in the wrong?
The child is 5 and is being followed by his dad.
I think the car did slow but could have pulled in but is a 5 year old child road sense worthy?
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| Bike v Car on 11:06 - Nov 8 with 1540 views | onehunglow |
When the child is clearly in the middle of the road,the+car driver should stop.
That said, dumb parenting . | |
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| Bike v Car on 11:58 - Nov 8 with 1514 views | Jack123 |
The car driver should have given way, on seeing a young rider coming towards him.
But on the other hand, I think the parent is more at fault, for putting his child in a position like that, he was basically using his son to play chicken with the car. He should have told the 5 year old to stop, until he knew what the car was doing. |  |
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| Bike v Car on 14:12 - Nov 8 with 1460 views | Boundy |
| Bike v Car on 11:58 - Nov 8 by Jack123 |
The car driver should have given way, on seeing a young rider coming towards him.
But on the other hand, I think the parent is more at fault, for putting his child in a position like that, he was basically using his son to play chicken with the car. He should have told the 5 year old to stop, until he knew what the car was doing. |
No ifs or but the car driver was wrong , the child cyclist was clearly overtaking and in the correct position when passing stationery vehicles .( anyone who's ridden a bike and a doors' opened will know what I'm on about) .He had taken primary position well before the car , he was wearing bright clothing with his father ? behind him who would have been just as visible , it wasn't the motorway but a 30 mph even possibly a 20mph zone . Whether the child was, 5, 10 or 20 what difference should it make .Just poor driving . | |
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| Bike v Car on 14:42 - Nov 8 with 1440 views | majorraglan |
| Bike v Car on 14:12 - Nov 8 by Boundy |
No ifs or but the car driver was wrong , the child cyclist was clearly overtaking and in the correct position when passing stationery vehicles .( anyone who's ridden a bike and a doors' opened will know what I'm on about) .He had taken primary position well before the car , he was wearing bright clothing with his father ? behind him who would have been just as visible , it wasn't the motorway but a 30 mph even possibly a 20mph zone . Whether the child was, 5, 10 or 20 what difference should it make .Just poor driving . |
Totally agree with you. The changes to the Highway Code also give cyclist the right of way over motorists, this is rank bad driving by the driver of the car. | | | |
| Bike v Car on 15:04 - Nov 8 with 1426 views | Jack123 |
| Bike v Car on 14:42 - Nov 8 by majorraglan |
Totally agree with you. The changes to the Highway Code also give cyclist the right of way over motorists, this is rank bad driving by the driver of the car. |
That may be so! But don't you think what the parent done there is worse?
He put his child in a dangerous situation, and if the kid had got hit, it would not have counted for much arguing who was in the right or wrong, if the young lad was on his way to hospital.
The father should have told the boy to stop, until he ascertained if the car was stopping.
The way I see it, If I was teaching someone to drive, and was on a main road, and noticed someone pulling out from a junction, when they should not do so, I wouldn't say carry on, carry on.. I would say slow down. | |
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| Bike v Car on 15:07 - Nov 8 with 1423 views | CountyJim |
| Bike v Car on 15:04 - Nov 8 by Jack123 |
That may be so! But don't you think what the parent done there is worse?
He put his child in a dangerous situation, and if the kid had got hit, it would not have counted for much arguing who was in the right or wrong, if the young lad was on his way to hospital.
The father should have told the boy to stop, until he ascertained if the car was stopping.
The way I see it, If I was teaching someone to drive, and was on a main road, and noticed someone pulling out from a junction, when they should not do so, I wouldn't say carry on, carry on.. I would say slow down. |
The kid did nothing wrong |  | | |
| Bike v Car on 15:33 - Nov 8 with 1409 views | union_jack |
| Bike v Car on 15:07 - Nov 8 by CountyJim |
The kid did nothing wrong |
In legal terms no. The driver should have given way.
You can’t blame the father for the bad driving of the oncoming car. The kid is perfectly entitled to be in the road.
It would be up to the father to struggle with his conscience if an accident occurred because I wouldn’t have put my daughter in that position at her age. But he wasn’t in the wrong. |  |
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| Bike v Car on 17:24 - Nov 8 with 1371 views | Dr_Winston |
The parent for letting a five year old go on the road on a pushbike. |  |
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| Bike v Car on 17:52 - Nov 8 with 1354 views | AguycalledJack |
Can’t help but think this is a set up. | | | |
| Bike v Car on 18:07 - Nov 8 with 1340 views | lifelong |
The car driver was clearly in the wrong, but considering the standard of driving on the roads these days there’s no way a 5 year old should be permitted to be cycling on a busy road at that time of day. |  | | |
| Bike v Car on 18:41 - Nov 8 with 1326 views | onehunglow |
| Bike v Car on 18:07 - Nov 8 by lifelong |
The car driver was clearly in the wrong, but considering the standard of driving on the roads these days there’s no way a 5 year old should be permitted to be cycling on a busy road at that time of day. |
The contempt most car drivers show to anyone on two wheels is reason enough not to have a kid that age on such a busy road. It make some despair .
The roads are not only for the use of car drivers whether or not they’re on their mobile or not . | |
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| Bike v Car on 18:57 - Nov 8 with 1312 views | Sirjohnalot |
Legally speaking no offences committed, but wtf is a 5 year old doing riding on the main road ? |  | | |
| Bike v Car on 19:10 - Nov 8 with 1296 views | Flashberryjack |
| Bike v Car on 17:24 - Nov 8 by Dr_Winston |
The parent for letting a five year old go on the road on a pushbike. |
This with knobs on, doesn't he know that at least 30% of road users are maniacs, that includes Cyclists, motor cyclists and pedestrians.
The best advise I was given when I was learning to drive was, assume every other road user is thick, if they indicate to turn right, beware that the they may actually turn left etc etc.
Allowing a 5 year old to ride a bike on a busy road is nothing less than madness, irrespective of whom is at fault. |  |
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| Bike v Car on 19:36 - Nov 8 with 1268 views | Catullus |
| Bike v Car on 14:42 - Nov 8 by majorraglan |
Totally agree with you. The changes to the Highway Code also give cyclist the right of way over motorists, this is rank bad driving by the driver of the car. |
I have seen many things since the changes, many bad things. Motorists either don't knw or don't care about the changes.
I've seen (and nearly been a victim of ) bad driving on crossings, people not stopping at the lights. people crossing the roads at junctions, cyclists, many drivers are just saying to hell with it, in my opinion.
I stopped at a junction for someone crossing, as the rules snow stipulate and all I got was a horn blaring and some verbals. | |
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| Bike v Car on 17:05 - Nov 10 with 1150 views | controversial_jack |
The car driver was in the wrong and should have stooped. Would have been manslaughter if the car had hit the child. | | | |
| Bike v Car on 17:18 - Nov 10 with 1143 views | Dr_Winston |
| Bike v Car on 14:42 - Nov 8 by majorraglan |
Totally agree with you. The changes to the Highway Code also give cyclist the right of way over motorists, this is rank bad driving by the driver of the car. |
This is also part of the problem. Pedestrians should have primacy on pavements. Bicycles on cycle paths. Roads are for cars and motorised transport and they should have priority in every way on them. | |
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| Bike v Car on 19:40 - Nov 10 with 1121 views | Boundy |
| Bike v Car on 18:57 - Nov 8 by Sirjohnalot |
Legally speaking no offences committed, but wtf is a 5 year old doing riding on the main road ? |
Not sure how you can determine that was a main road , there were no road markings to distinguish it from a suburban road on a housing estate | |
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| Bike v Car on 20:04 - Nov 10 with 1112 views | Sirjohnalot |
| Bike v Car on 19:40 - Nov 10 by Boundy |
Not sure how you can determine that was a main road , there were no road markings to distinguish it from a suburban road on a housing estate |
Fair point, but still looked busy with cars parked on either side | | | |
| Bike v Car on 09:07 - Nov 11 with 1068 views | onehunglow |
| Bike v Car on 18:57 - Nov 8 by Sirjohnalot |
Legally speaking no offences committed, but wtf is a 5 year old doing riding on the main road ? |
I would take issue with you over that ,counsel. | |
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| Bike v Car on 09:28 - Nov 11 with 1061 views | britferry |
Just seen the video with audio, son sees the car and asks "shall I pull over" and father says "no carry on" and then shouts at the car for not stopping.
The father stupidly thought the car would stop, as it should have but we all know how thick and arrogant drivers are and I wouldn't trust anyone, myself included.
When I'm about to cross at a zebra crossing, I wait to see the car slowing down before I step on to it. | |
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| Bike v Car on 10:07 - Nov 11 with 1047 views | onehunglow |
| Bike v Car on 17:18 - Nov 10 by Dr_Winston |
This is also part of the problem. Pedestrians should have primacy on pavements. Bicycles on cycle paths. Roads are for cars and motorised transport and they should have priority in every way on them. |
Roads are for what?
Read the Highway Code .
Your hatred of anything two wheels is well documented.
Meanwhile,take it easy when horses pop out in front of you in Penlan and dont beep your horn as the buggers dont understand | |
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| Bike v Car on 10:12 - Nov 11 with 1044 views | britferry |
The Highway Code
Rule 64
You MUST NOT cycle on a pavement.
Laws HA 1835 sect 72 & R(S)A sect 129 | |
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| Bike v Car on 10:17 - Nov 11 with 1040 views | onehunglow |
Now look up "road"
Im not keen on bikes of footpaths ;there again,witnesing the champs in their own personal steel cages you kinda get why its safer on some roads to use a footpath. Better not to be right if you're dead..
Most car drivers are too glued to their frkning phones to notice anyone else on a road -or a footpath-come to that. | |
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| Bike v Car on 10:25 - Nov 11 with 1036 views | Boundy |
Not wanting to labour the point (but I am ) , not sure this would constitute a main road , anyone wish to comment on the car reversing onto the "main road "
rule 201 . ( this could run and run )
Do not reverse from a side road into a main road. When using a driveway, reverse in and drive out if you can
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| Bike v Car on 10:34 - Nov 11 with 1035 views | onehunglow |
| Bike v Car on 10:25 - Nov 11 by Boundy |
Not wanting to labour the point (but I am ) , not sure this would constitute a main road , anyone wish to comment on the car reversing onto the "main road "
rule 201 . ( this could run and run )
Do not reverse from a side road into a main road. When using a driveway, reverse in and drive out if you can
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Drivers pass a basic test that doesnt lat very long then are free to go out and drive wherever they want and a fast a they want.ALL think they are good drivers.
Men would rather be called a bad lover than a bad driver. | |
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