| Mick Lynch on 12:38 - Mar 20 with 2684 views | nantywatcher | During my working life have done thousands of train journeys and (other than the drivers) it has always struck me what an easy cushy life B Rail staff have. Apart from strolling around and chatting I'm amazed most of them stay awake with their lack of workload. Not sure there are too many easier ways to "earn" a living. |  | |  |
| Mick Lynch on 13:12 - Mar 20 with 2632 views | onehunglow | Who exactly are the working class. This is nauseating ,trite garbage . |  |
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| Mick Lynch on 14:00 - Mar 20 with 2624 views | felixstowe_jack |
| Mick Lynch on 13:12 - Mar 20 by onehunglow | Who exactly are the working class. This is nauseating ,trite garbage . |
Good to see the RMT members who work at Network Rail have voted to accept the pay offer. Makes it all the stranger why Mick Lynn refuses to put the same offer to his RMT members who work for the train operating companies. |  |
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| Mick Lynch on 14:03 - Mar 20 with 2624 views | felixstowe_jack |
| Mick Lynch on 13:12 - Mar 20 by onehunglow | Who exactly are the working class. This is nauseating ,trite garbage . |
Good to see the RMT members who work at Network Rail have voted to accept the pay offer. Makes it all the stranger why Mick Lynn refuses to put the same offer to his RMT members who work for the train operating companies. |  |
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| Mick Lynch on 14:12 - Mar 20 with 2612 views | Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
| Mick Lynch on 13:12 - Mar 20 by onehunglow | Who exactly are the working class. This is nauseating ,trite garbage . |
I think it’s people like Mick Lynch who live in huge houses in west London and earn a few million a year for doing very little. |  |
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| Mick Lynch on 14:24 - Mar 20 with 2579 views | controversial_jack |
| Mick Lynch on 13:12 - Mar 20 by onehunglow | Who exactly are the working class. This is nauseating ,trite garbage . |
The ones between middle class and the underclass. |  | |  |
| Mick Lynch on 14:30 - Mar 20 with 2565 views | controversial_jack |
| Mick Lynch on 14:12 - Mar 20 by Joesus_Of_Narbereth | I think it’s people like Mick Lynch who live in huge houses in west London and earn a few million a year for doing very little. |
A terraced house in Ealing worth almost a million, which is nothing special for London |  | |  |
| Mick Lynch on 14:32 - Mar 20 with 2574 views | onehunglow |
| Mick Lynch on 14:12 - Mar 20 by Joesus_Of_Narbereth | I think it’s people like Mick Lynch who live in huge houses in west London and earn a few million a year for doing very little. |
Fair point. So Mick don’t live in a kearnsil hairse then.He seems a class traitor to me. |  |
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| Mick Lynch on 14:49 - Mar 20 with 2571 views | KeithHaynes |
| Mick Lynch on 14:32 - Mar 20 by onehunglow | Fair point. So Mick don’t live in a kearnsil hairse then.He seems a class traitor to me. |
Brought up in Paddington, council and rented housing once described as slums by him and others. Worked his way up through a variety of jobs. Earns 84k a year in his current capacity. Records over 100 hours a week at certain times. An example of what you get for hard work and dedication to better yourself. And an example to everyone what can be achieved regardless of your politics.
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| Mick Lynch on 15:52 - Mar 20 with 2520 views | onehunglow |
| Mick Lynch on 14:49 - Mar 20 by KeithHaynes | Brought up in Paddington, council and rented housing once described as slums by him and others. Worked his way up through a variety of jobs. Earns 84k a year in his current capacity. Records over 100 hours a week at certain times. An example of what you get for hard work and dedication to better yourself. And an example to everyone what can be achieved regardless of your politics.
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So what class does that make him now if money is the arbiter of class. Contrastingly, what about the public schooled drug ruined “posh” now living hand to mouth. Because 5hey are poor ,does this mean they are now lower / working class . This is my point Keith. I detest people being pigeonholed and held back. |  |
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| Mick Lynch on 17:02 - Mar 20 with 2508 views | Whiterockin |
| Mick Lynch on 13:12 - Mar 20 by onehunglow | Who exactly are the working class. This is nauseating ,trite garbage . |
I was once told you can define a man's class, by whether the shirt he wears has the logo inside or on the front. |  | |  |
| Mick Lynch on 17:30 - Mar 20 with 2477 views | KeithHaynes |
| Mick Lynch on 15:52 - Mar 20 by onehunglow | So what class does that make him now if money is the arbiter of class. Contrastingly, what about the public schooled drug ruined “posh” now living hand to mouth. Because 5hey are poor ,does this mean they are now lower / working class . This is my point Keith. I detest people being pigeonholed and held back. |
I don’t know you started it 😂 Personally I couldn’t give a … |  |
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| Mick Lynch on 18:12 - Mar 20 with 2421 views | 1983 |
| Mick Lynch on 14:12 - Mar 20 by Joesus_Of_Narbereth | I think it’s people like Mick Lynch who live in huge houses in west London and earn a few million a year for doing very little. |
A few million a year ? LOL ! |  |
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| Mick Lynch on 18:17 - Mar 20 with 2415 views | max936 |
| Mick Lynch on 12:38 - Mar 20 by nantywatcher | During my working life have done thousands of train journeys and (other than the drivers) it has always struck me what an easy cushy life B Rail staff have. Apart from strolling around and chatting I'm amazed most of them stay awake with their lack of workload. Not sure there are too many easier ways to "earn" a living. |
My nephew and his father [sadly passed] worked in hospitality on the trains and both were assaulted several times, my nephew quite badly at one point. So its not the easy life you'd imagining. Think he's a driver now though, but not sure as I rarely see him these days. [Post edited 20 Mar 2023 19:00]
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| Mick Lynch on 18:24 - Mar 20 with 2387 views | controversial_jack |
| Mick Lynch on 15:52 - Mar 20 by onehunglow | So what class does that make him now if money is the arbiter of class. Contrastingly, what about the public schooled drug ruined “posh” now living hand to mouth. Because 5hey are poor ,does this mean they are now lower / working class . This is my point Keith. I detest people being pigeonholed and held back. |
Occupation is the biggest marker of social stratification. He would be middle class now, but that doesn't mean he has forgotten his roots |  | |  |
| Mick Lynch on 18:41 - Mar 20 with 2397 views | Fireboy2 |
| Mick Lynch on 18:17 - Mar 20 by max936 | My nephew and his father [sadly passed] worked in hospitality on the trains and both were assaulted several times, my nephew quite badly at one point. So its not the easy life you'd imagining. Think he's a driver now though, but not sure as I rarely see him these days. [Post edited 20 Mar 2023 19:00]
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Alot of people have literally no idea what alot of train conductors go through. |  | |  |
| Mick Lynch on 18:53 - Mar 20 with 2384 views | 1983 | Looks like the fight is nearly over for us who work for the private rail companies, who the majority are owned by forgien companies and will continue to pick up millions of pounds in bonus payouts from the government just for being there just like a Yank soldier picks up medals. Just a quick calculation means me losing a few grand of my £21k after receiving our pay rise with our T&C's being raped for it so one cancels out the other so no winner there. I've worked well over 20yrs on the railway and anyone who thinks the railway will be better for it are deluded. Once those ticket offices are gone you will be on your own the majority of ticket office footfall is enquires,travel options and help with wrong tickets,refunds...etc you will be joining the masses pressing buttons on staffless platforms and talking to Jonathan in New Deli or fighting online to get your money back. Nobody will work overtime because it won't be worth it anymore we lose our enhancement so turns will go uncovered and some trains won't run. I'm in the 75th minute of my working game career and I feel for the younger generation but proud that I worked all the way through covid and told by my managers on 50-60-70k sitting in their gardens "don't worry wash your hands you'll be ok" proud that I striked and watched a few who you would bet on 100% sneak into work in casual clothing because they didn't want to be seen work getting paid by the T&C's the union got for them over decades and decades. |  |
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| Mick Lynch on 18:54 - Mar 20 with 2382 views | majorraglan |
| Mick Lynch on 18:41 - Mar 20 by Fireboy2 | Alot of people have literally no idea what alot of train conductors go through. |
Is the correct answer. Mate of mine is one, there are days when everything goes ok, but there’s days when it’s nothing but a grief fest. Awkward passengers who don’t have tickets and don’t want to pay, drunks who are argumentative and want to rip his head off particularly on the evening services, grief when trains are running late and let’s not forget dealing with the aftermath of suicides on the railway tracks. [Post edited 20 Mar 2023 18:56]
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| Mick Lynch on 19:21 - Mar 20 with 2341 views | Dr_Winston | Anyone who works in direct contact with the general public will no doubt have a few stories about what absolute bellwhiffs quite a lot of them are. Got quite a lot of sympathy for any customer services types on the trains dealing with drunken dickheads on late services, especially on something like a Rugby day. |  |
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| Mick Lynch on 19:44 - Mar 20 with 2324 views | Fireboy2 |
| Mick Lynch on 18:53 - Mar 20 by 1983 | Looks like the fight is nearly over for us who work for the private rail companies, who the majority are owned by forgien companies and will continue to pick up millions of pounds in bonus payouts from the government just for being there just like a Yank soldier picks up medals. Just a quick calculation means me losing a few grand of my £21k after receiving our pay rise with our T&C's being raped for it so one cancels out the other so no winner there. I've worked well over 20yrs on the railway and anyone who thinks the railway will be better for it are deluded. Once those ticket offices are gone you will be on your own the majority of ticket office footfall is enquires,travel options and help with wrong tickets,refunds...etc you will be joining the masses pressing buttons on staffless platforms and talking to Jonathan in New Deli or fighting online to get your money back. Nobody will work overtime because it won't be worth it anymore we lose our enhancement so turns will go uncovered and some trains won't run. I'm in the 75th minute of my working game career and I feel for the younger generation but proud that I worked all the way through covid and told by my managers on 50-60-70k sitting in their gardens "don't worry wash your hands you'll be ok" proud that I striked and watched a few who you would bet on 100% sneak into work in casual clothing because they didn't want to be seen work getting paid by the T&C's the union got for them over decades and decades. |
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| Mick Lynch on 20:13 - Mar 20 with 2292 views | 1983 | *Downed arrow by mistake |  |
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| Mick Lynch on 23:49 - Mar 20 with 2213 views | nantywatcher |
| Mick Lynch on 18:17 - Mar 20 by max936 | My nephew and his father [sadly passed] worked in hospitality on the trains and both were assaulted several times, my nephew quite badly at one point. So its not the easy life you'd imagining. Think he's a driver now though, but not sure as I rarely see him these days. [Post edited 20 Mar 2023 19:00]
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That's terrible to read. |  | |  |
| Mick Lynch on 00:59 - Mar 21 with 2181 views | Dr_Parnassus | The West has a transient class/wealth system. Those who complain about it are usually not doing enough to move out of the situation they are in. Work hard, dedicate yourself to your chosen field and you can achieve anything. |  |
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| Mick Lynch on 06:59 - Mar 21 with 2116 views | Fireboy2 |
| Mick Lynch on 23:49 - Mar 20 by nantywatcher | That's terrible to read. |
So by reading that do you take back your first post on this subject? |  | |  |
| Mick Lynch on 08:50 - Mar 21 with 2042 views | controversial_jack |
| Mick Lynch on 00:59 - Mar 21 by Dr_Parnassus | The West has a transient class/wealth system. Those who complain about it are usually not doing enough to move out of the situation they are in. Work hard, dedicate yourself to your chosen field and you can achieve anything. |
From my experience, it was the networkers and noshers that advanced in the workplace |  | |  |
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