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We need Socialist or even Communist economic policies 19:31 - Oct 9 with 719 viewstrampie

Neoliberalism/Reganomics/Thatcherism/Blairism/Trickledown whatever you want to call it has failed, we can expect rioting in Western countries as peoples lot gets worse and worse, the problem is people initially might look even further right for economic policies when they should be looking left, things will get even worse and quicker if people look towards Farage and Le Pen, I think I seen it that Le Pen intends to cut 140 billion euros in spending, Farage will take an axe to the nhs, watch the riots then, perhaps then at that point will we get to rip up the old order and have some Socialist policies, right wing policies are not working.

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We need Socialist or even Communist economic policies on 19:32 - Oct 9 with 714 viewsWhiterockin

Best you emigrate.
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We need Socialist or even Communist economic policies on 19:34 - Oct 9 with 700 viewstrampie

We need Socialist or even Communist economic policies on 19:32 - Oct 9 by Whiterockin

Best you emigrate.


No need if an independent Wales becomes a Socialist Republic .

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We need Socialist or even Communist economic policies on 19:54 - Oct 9 with 645 viewsAguycalledJack

Can somebody explain to me how socialism works?
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We need Socialist or even Communist economic policies on 20:07 - Oct 9 with 617 viewsDemitrius

We need Socialist or even Communist economic policies on 19:54 - Oct 9 by AguycalledJack

Can somebody explain to me how socialism works?


In a nutshell you take money off the hardworking aspirational people and give it to scrounging feckless layabouts. Eventually you run out of other people's money ,get booted out of office and then 20 years later the next generation of gullible tits comes along and votes an even worse socialist government than the last. As you will have noted since July 2024. £313 billion on welfare in 2024 expected to hit £333 by 2026. More dependents arriving by boat every day. It's all rather marvellous really.

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We need Socialist or even Communist economic policies on 20:10 - Oct 9 with 613 viewsAguycalledJack

We need Socialist or even Communist economic policies on 20:07 - Oct 9 by Demitrius

In a nutshell you take money off the hardworking aspirational people and give it to scrounging feckless layabouts. Eventually you run out of other people's money ,get booted out of office and then 20 years later the next generation of gullible tits comes along and votes an even worse socialist government than the last. As you will have noted since July 2024. £313 billion on welfare in 2024 expected to hit £333 by 2026. More dependents arriving by boat every day. It's all rather marvellous really.


Cracking response.

My question was somewhat tongue in cheek, but you sir have nailed it.

I assume i can call you sir.
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We need Socialist or even Communist economic policies on 20:26 - Oct 9 with 580 viewsWhiterockin

We need Socialist or even Communist economic policies on 20:07 - Oct 9 by Demitrius

In a nutshell you take money off the hardworking aspirational people and give it to scrounging feckless layabouts. Eventually you run out of other people's money ,get booted out of office and then 20 years later the next generation of gullible tits comes along and votes an even worse socialist government than the last. As you will have noted since July 2024. £313 billion on welfare in 2024 expected to hit £333 by 2026. More dependents arriving by boat every day. It's all rather marvellous really.


It clearly defines those who would want it.
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We need Socialist or even Communist economic policies on 21:09 - Oct 9 with 526 viewsJJBomber

We need Socialist or even Communist economic policies on 19:54 - Oct 9 by AguycalledJack

Can somebody explain to me how socialism works?


The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money!
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We need Socialist or even Communist economic policies on 15:16 - Oct 10 with 326 viewsSullutaCreturned

We need Socialist or even Communist economic policies on 19:34 - Oct 9 by trampie

No need if an independent Wales becomes a Socialist Republic .


Not in your lifetime. What we need is policies that actually work regardless of being left or right.
Put simply if a policy is a good idea just do it, be it left or right. Look at Mamdani in NY. He is a democratic socialist so mostly left wing but with common sense. Then look at Nordic countries, Norway is an excellent example.

If we continue to go either left OR right with no common sense then we are screwed.
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We need Socialist or even Communist economic policies on 15:54 - Oct 10 with 316 viewsncswan

We need Socialist or even Communist economic policies on 15:16 - Oct 10 by SullutaCreturned

Not in your lifetime. What we need is policies that actually work regardless of being left or right.
Put simply if a policy is a good idea just do it, be it left or right. Look at Mamdani in NY. He is a democratic socialist so mostly left wing but with common sense. Then look at Nordic countries, Norway is an excellent example.

If we continue to go either left OR right with no common sense then we are screwed.


What we need is a socialistic/communistic experiment to play out Trampie's call for action. Let's get the world to approve such a place for folks that have these beliefs to start this experiment on a lush, green island with enough electricity, farm land for crops and livestock, roads for transporting goods, and all the things needed for a society to be successful but led by a communist/socialist leader to implement "Socialist or even Communist economic policies". Let's see how long it is before either the island residents applaud and show their support, or they cry for help.

Wait a minute...this experiment has already occurred on a formerly lush island with all the trimmings called Cuba!

How's that experiment looking, Tramps!! What a bone-headed comment! Unfortunately, there are a lot of Trampies out there that continue to believe this BS! Fortunately, there are no success stories in the history of mankind that anyone can point to when it comes to Socialism/Communism.
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We need Socialist or even Communist economic policies on 16:33 - Oct 10 with 284 viewsonehunglow

We need to reward those willing to work and set up businesses
We need to not reward those who are not
Nobody should earn a living out of the efforts of others
Kunts out there getting 1500 notes per month benefit
No tax
Socialism is ok when you’re 18 but then you realise somebody has to pay
Some don’t grow up

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We need Socialist or even Communist economic policies on 17:12 - Oct 10 with 265 viewsjack_lord

We need Socialist or even Communist economic policies on 20:07 - Oct 9 by Demitrius

In a nutshell you take money off the hardworking aspirational people and give it to scrounging feckless layabouts. Eventually you run out of other people's money ,get booted out of office and then 20 years later the next generation of gullible tits comes along and votes an even worse socialist government than the last. As you will have noted since July 2024. £313 billion on welfare in 2024 expected to hit £333 by 2026. More dependents arriving by boat every day. It's all rather marvellous really.


That is not what socialism is though.

I believe that mixed economies work and absolutely reject socialism per se but we do have classic examples of socialism in the UK with, in the main, public provided schools and healthcare, fire services and public roads.

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We need Socialist or even Communist economic policies on 17:40 - Oct 10 with 244 viewsSullutaCreturned

We need Socialist or even Communist economic policies on 17:12 - Oct 10 by jack_lord

That is not what socialism is though.

I believe that mixed economies work and absolutely reject socialism per se but we do have classic examples of socialism in the UK with, in the main, public provided schools and healthcare, fire services and public roads.


It has to be mixed because capitalism doesn't work for the masses either, it just takes longer to become apparent, we are seeing it today.

Democratic socialism is working in Nordic countries though. That's what we should be doing.
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We need Socialist or even Communist economic policies on 18:50 - Oct 10 with 210 viewsJoesus_Of_Narbereth

Arguably it’s the socialist policies that is the millstone around our neck. The welfare state should be a safety net, not a lifestyle choice. When the government is paying out more in welfare than it takes in income tax massive alarm bells should be ringing.

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We need Socialist or even Communist economic policies on 20:00 - Oct 10 with 173 viewsjack_lord

We need Socialist or even Communist economic policies on 18:50 - Oct 10 by Joesus_Of_Narbereth

Arguably it’s the socialist policies that is the millstone around our neck. The welfare state should be a safety net, not a lifestyle choice. When the government is paying out more in welfare than it takes in income tax massive alarm bells should be ringing.


Do you believe that schooling should be paid for?

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We need Socialist or even Communist economic policies on 21:33 - Oct 10 with 143 viewsJoesus_Of_Narbereth

We need Socialist or even Communist economic policies on 20:00 - Oct 10 by jack_lord

Do you believe that schooling should be paid for?


Schooling is paid for. The NHS is paid for. Everything is paid for. Nothing is truly free. We all pay for it but some people pay more than others which generally is fine if you can afford it but more and more people are being dragged into the bracket where they can’t afford it despite working full time 50 hours a week when others could work but choose not to, sit on their arse all week, have all the free time in the world and get everything handed to them. It creates an inherent unfairness and people are getting squeezed more and more to pay for it all.

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We need Socialist or even Communist economic policies on 22:47 - Oct 10 with 88 viewsjack_lord

We need Socialist or even Communist economic policies on 21:33 - Oct 10 by Joesus_Of_Narbereth

Schooling is paid for. The NHS is paid for. Everything is paid for. Nothing is truly free. We all pay for it but some people pay more than others which generally is fine if you can afford it but more and more people are being dragged into the bracket where they can’t afford it despite working full time 50 hours a week when others could work but choose not to, sit on their arse all week, have all the free time in the world and get everything handed to them. It creates an inherent unfairness and people are getting squeezed more and more to pay for it all.


They don't get everything handed to them though. Certainly many get more than they would be able to afford if they worked full time and that is an inherent weakness in our welfare system but they don't get a yacht in the marina, a condo in Marbs or a Lambo in the garage (unless they are Dd's and on benefits)
Private school can cost 50K a year per child so the state school is seen as free at source as is the NHS. Your points don't fall on deaf ears and I have my own ideas on how to deal with those people.

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