| Tories 22:44 - Oct 31 with 1743 views | onehunglow |
Come on class warriors.
Should the party be banned aand have just one party for the working classes.
If not,then why have a free election where anyone not voting as per the crowd is ridiculed.
Any wonder why so many have contempt for labour voters when they read what is on here
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| Tories on 22:49 - Oct 31 with 1106 views | Nortbankboy |
They could change their name to the Eaton party | | | |
| Tories on 22:53 - Oct 31 with 1101 views | Boundy |
Why ban just the Tories why not socialists as well. A middle ground need to be found ( it ain't going to happen folks) We need go-go capitalism to afford a welfare state, and people won’t support capitalism without a safety net. I'm afraid both are an anathema to the other .I suppose Blairs New Labour was the nearest we've got to a capitalist/socialist party and look at the problems that caused to our economy and social well being and certainly the cause of unrest in the name of diversity | |
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| Tories on 23:16 - Oct 31 with 1087 views | Kilkennyjack |
| Tories on 22:53 - Oct 31 by Boundy |
Why ban just the Tories why not socialists as well. A middle ground need to be found ( it ain't going to happen folks) We need go-go capitalism to afford a welfare state, and people won’t support capitalism without a safety net. I'm afraid both are an anathema to the other .I suppose Blairs New Labour was the nearest we've got to a capitalist/socialist party and look at the problems that caused to our economy and social well being and certainly the cause of unrest in the name of diversity |
Rubbish grandad.
Nurse !! nurse !! Meds please ... |  |
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| Tories on 23:22 - Oct 31 with 1080 views | Kilkennyjack |
They should be honest and go with their real name - the English Nationalist Party.
Welsh Indy is the key.
Once Wales goes indy then England can elect who they like.
Until then - to borrow words from Thatcher - they are the enemy within.
And they are shite for all the posh accents.
Here you go, just some recent examples ....
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| Tories on 07:59 - Nov 1 with 1027 views | Andy1300 |
| Tories on 23:22 - Oct 31 by Kilkennyjack |
They should be honest and go with their real name - the English Nationalist Party.
Welsh Indy is the key.
Once Wales goes indy then England can elect who they like.
Until then - to borrow words from Thatcher - they are the enemy within.
And they are shite for all the posh accents.
Here you go, just some recent examples ....
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| Tories on 08:07 - Nov 1 with 1024 views | Neath_Jack |
Round up all the Welsh Tory voters, and dump them over the other side of the bridge.
They have no place in a Welsh society.
Ych y fi. [Post edited 1 Nov 2020 8:19]
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| Tories on 09:49 - Nov 1 with 981 views | onehunglow |
| Tories on 08:07 - Nov 1 by Neath_Jack |
Round up all the Welsh Tory voters, and dump them over the other side of the bridge.
They have no place in a Welsh society.
Ych y fi. [Post edited 1 Nov 2020 8:19]
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Assuming that s tongue in cheek but it is exactly what we see so often .
It s a free vote . | |
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| Tories on 10:54 - Nov 1 with 953 views | Kilkennyjack |
| Tories on 09:49 - Nov 1 by onehunglow |
Assuming that s tongue in cheek but it is exactly what we see so often .
It s a free vote . |
Yes its a free vote, but if you vote for a party whose core values are at odds with the values of our modern Cymru then you should expect to be called out on it.
Wales has rejected division, greed, corruption, cronyism, and worker exploitation for over 100 years.
The Tory party would need to totally transform itself to be relevant in Wales.
Unfortunately its has gone back to the 1950s under the clown Johnson. | |
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| Tories on 10:58 - Nov 1 with 944 views | onehunglow |
So if it's free,then people have a right to vote.
Nuff said.
My dad used to vote Tory and whilst he wasnt easy he certainly was not scum or vile and plenty decent folk vote that way | |
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| Tories on 11:27 - Nov 1 with 934 views | Catullus |
| Tories on 10:54 - Nov 1 by Kilkennyjack |
Yes its a free vote, but if you vote for a party whose core values are at odds with the values of our modern Cymru then you should expect to be called out on it.
Wales has rejected division, greed, corruption, cronyism, and worker exploitation for over 100 years.
The Tory party would need to totally transform itself to be relevant in Wales.
Unfortunately its has gone back to the 1950s under the clown Johnson. |
When did you get to deide any of those things? Modern Cymru embraces diversity and difference of opinion, it embraces debate and tolerance.
It doesn't embarce hating the English, hatred and parochialism, especially by it's children. | |
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| Tories on 11:28 - Nov 1 with 932 views | onehunglow |
If it's free,then it' s free . | |
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| Tories on 12:11 - Nov 1 with 909 views | A_Fans_Dad |
| Tories on 23:16 - Oct 31 by Kilkennyjack |
Rubbish grandad.
Nurse !! nurse !! Meds please ... |
A wonderful contribution to the discussion. | | | |
| Tories on 12:12 - Nov 1 with 907 views | A_Fans_Dad |
| Tories on 10:54 - Nov 1 by Kilkennyjack |
Yes its a free vote, but if you vote for a party whose core values are at odds with the values of our modern Cymru then you should expect to be called out on it.
Wales has rejected division, greed, corruption, cronyism, and worker exploitation for over 100 years.
The Tory party would need to totally transform itself to be relevant in Wales.
Unfortunately its has gone back to the 1950s under the clown Johnson. |
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| Tories on 13:12 - Nov 1 with 884 views | Boundy |
| Tories on 12:11 - Nov 1 by A_Fans_Dad |
A wonderful contribution to the discussion. |
and one not worthy of a direct response | |
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| Tories on 13:20 - Nov 1 with 872 views | pikeypaul |
Just goes to show how many of the lowlifes do not believe in democracy,but we seen that when Sir Nigel kicked the Remoaners backside in 2016 and we still have the children crying over the will of the British people and our democratic choice.
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| Tories on 13:22 - Nov 1 with 868 views | felixstowe_jack |
| Tories on 23:22 - Oct 31 by Kilkennyjack |
They should be honest and go with their real name - the English Nationalist Party.
Welsh Indy is the key.
Once Wales goes indy then England can elect who they like.
Until then - to borrow words from Thatcher - they are the enemy within.
And they are shite for all the posh accents.
Here you go, just some recent examples ....
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I see four of your sinn fein representatives in NI have been sacked for stealing money from the UK government ment to help businesses hit by lockdown. You could not make it up. | |
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| Tories on 13:48 - Nov 1 with 849 views | Boundy |
I wonder how much of what's quoted below has changed ? little very little I suspect .
A disproportionate number of Labour members who have joined since the 2015 general election are “high-status city dwellers” pursuing well-paid jobs, according to internal party data.
The party is doing less well when it comes to attracting rural dwellers, elderly people and those struggling to make ends meet, leaked documents show.
Labour said it didn’t comment on leaked documents, but the figures are part of an official internal analysis of the party’s rising membership covering the period since Jeremy Corbyn became leader. The data was commissioned internally and sent to Labour’s national executive committee last week.
The report portrays a party in transition, attracting a higher proportion of new members from wealthy inner-city areas. While there has been a dramatic rise in members across the entire party, Labour’s traditional supporters from poorer parts of society are now a smaller proportion of the total membership.
The data also shows that 2015 saw double the normal number of resignations from the party and a spike in the number of cancelled direct debits since September — an indication of the number of members unhappy with the party’s new leadership.
The figures will be seized upon by critics of the new Labour leader as proof that the party has been taken over by wealthy urban dwellers. Last week, party grandee David Watts criticised Labour’s leadership for “eating their croissants” and living in London mansions while failing to appeal to ordinary voters.
But those close to Corbyn claim the party’s membership continuing to rise across all sectors of society since he became leader.
The document shows that at the end of 2015, Labour’s membership stood at 388,103 — up 194,349 on the 2014 figure and the largest number since 1998.
But the report’s summary warns: “Groups which are over-represented as Labour party members tend to be long-term homeowners from urban areas (particularly inner city area) who have high levels of disposable income.
“Those who are under-represented tend to be either young singles/families who rent properties on a short-term basis and require financial assistance or those who live in rural communities.”
According to the document, Labour has analysed 80% of its party’s membership using Mosaic, a classification system used to categorise people into different social bands. It points out that “high-status city dwellers living in central locations and pursuing careers with high rewards are highly over-represented”.
“As a group they make up 4% of the general population in contrast to 11.2% of party membership,” it says.
The report says the party has 36,646 members categorised as coming from a category it calls “city prosperity”, and 19,917 of these have joined since the general election - an increase of 119%.
In contrast, the summary also points out that families with limited resources “who have to budget to make ends meet” are under-represented in the party, making up 4% of membership, in comparison with 8.7% of the population. Even in this category, however, since the general election there has been an increase in the number of members from 5,966 to 7,101.
Labour is also attracting 10% of its overall membership from those categorised by Mosaic as being in “prestige positions” — affluent, home-owning married couples enjoying financial security. This category makes up 9% of the general population.
The party appears to have had less success trying to attract elderly voters since the election — a key target group if the party is to win in 2020, according to the report.
The data shows that the party has 11,190 members categorised as “vintage value” — people over 70 who tend to live alone in social or private housing. Around 3,000 of these members have joined since the general election — an increase of 41%.
In an indication of the turmoil within the party since the election, the document also shows that there have been 6,627 resignations from the party this year — twice the usual number — while another 15,284 memberships have lapsed.
“While we have experienced huge growth, we have also experienced some significant losses, with the number of resigners in 2015 around double the normal level,” the report notes.
It also says that there has been a “spike [in] those leaving the party from September onwards” — the month when Corbyn was elected. Figures show that between September and December, more than 7,500 members cancelled their direct debit membership payments. “A spike in direct debits does indicate an active choice to terminate payment,” the report says.
Senior party figures, many of whom have connections to the north of England, claim the party has been taken over by a north London elite and remain concerned about the threat from Ukip in Labour’s working class heartlands.
Lord Watts, the former leader of the parliamentary party, told the House of Lords last week: “My advice to my own party leadership is that they should take less notice of the London-centric, hard-left political class who sit around in their £1m mansions, eating their croissants at breakfast and seeking to lay the foundations for a socialist revolution.
“It is not the job of the parliamentary Labour party to sit around developing ultra-leftwing policies that make it feel good. It is its job and responsibility to come forward with policies that will help us win the next general election.”
John Mann, the Labour MP for Bassetlaw and a critic of Corbyn, called last week for the party to introduce a mansion tax for Labour members living in £1m homes. | |
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| Tories on 14:23 - Nov 1 with 825 views | onehunglow |
They got the salary but didn't attend their parliament,the one they were elected to represent. Hypocrites. | |
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| Tories on 14:27 - Nov 1 with 821 views | onehunglow |
| Tories on 13:22 - Nov 1 by felixstowe_jack |
I see four of your sinn fein representatives in NI have been sacked for stealing money from the UK government ment to help businesses hit by lockdown. You could not make it up. |
So now it's accents. Have the misfortune to be able to speak without a hard on regional accent is now damned on here. Just what accent is acceptable. I could introduce you to people with really strong scouse accents but that is an accent hated on here-as is posh. Just wtf is wrong with people.
To many in England a strong Welsh accent signifies thick .
To many ,the south east England accent is best--which it isnt as it's hidious to me anyway.
Tolerance not really expected though with Irish republican tendencies. | |
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| Tories on 14:32 - Nov 1 with 817 views | BarrySwan |
| Tories on 10:54 - Nov 1 by Kilkennyjack |
Yes its a free vote, but if you vote for a party whose core values are at odds with the values of our modern Cymru then you should expect to be called out on it.
Wales has rejected division, greed, corruption, cronyism, and worker exploitation for over 100 years.
The Tory party would need to totally transform itself to be relevant in Wales.
Unfortunately its has gone back to the 1950s under the clown Johnson. |
Wales has rejected division, greed, corruption, cronyism, and worker exploitation for over 100 years.
By voting in the Labour Party?
You really are as mad as trampie aren't you?
Anyway for the gazillioneth time, tell us about Boris at Perugia airport, you never cleared that one up despite being asked to for ages now.
I'm struggling to take anything seriously that you post up now since your little faux pas on that one.
Restore my faith in the reliability of your posted up links and statements. [Post edited 1 Nov 2020 14:34]
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| Tories on 14:34 - Nov 1 with 813 views | onehunglow |
I used to have nationalistic tendencies when I was about 18 but you eventually grow up and see the world for what it is.
Wales is the last country that could survive independence | |
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| Tories on 14:48 - Nov 1 with 803 views | jack_lord |
| Tories on 14:34 - Nov 1 by onehunglow |
I used to have nationalistic tendencies when I was about 18 but you eventually grow up and see the world for what it is.
Wales is the last country that could survive independence |
We have plenty of water - the oil of the future, Rich |  |
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| Tories on 14:53 - Nov 1 with 799 views | Boundy |
| Tories on 14:48 - Nov 1 by jack_lord |
We have plenty of water - the oil of the future, Rich |
is that it ? | |
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| Tories on 14:55 - Nov 1 with 789 views | Whiterockin |
| Tories on 14:48 - Nov 1 by jack_lord |
We have plenty of water - the oil of the future, Rich |
Yes but don't have the means or the intellect to control it, that's why so many have been flooded out in the last 12 months. |  | | |
| Tories on 15:05 - Nov 1 with 769 views | onehunglow |
| Tories on 14:48 - Nov 1 by jack_lord |
We have plenty of water - the oil of the future, Rich |
So,it would rely on water?Good luck in a drought.
England can get its water within England.
Sorry about Dreweryn .It weren't my fault | |
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