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Tenerife 13:47 - Nov 26 with 7835 viewspencoedjack

All kicked off last night.

& we have people moaning about lack of alcohol in Doha.
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Tenerife on 14:24 - Nov 26 with 2415 viewsKilkennyjack

Correct.

Support your team and enjoy it.
What is the matter with people ffs.

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Tenerife on 15:02 - Nov 26 with 2361 viewsReslovenSwan1

If the assembled Welsh fans were subjected to filthy racially aggravated disorderly conduct (sheep themed slurs) they were entitled to act in 'self defence in my opinion. No one should be subjected to lurid abuse based on race or ethnicity especially on a foreign land .

I await further details. I have brought to the attention of this board that we as a nation have nowhere to hide in the face of this abuse. Gerwyn Price was thrown to the lions and took on his broad shoulders with his young family by his side. Top man. I join him in calling the English far right drunken thugs out. I have seen it close up and personal. I want the south Wales constabulary and Swansea city FC to put action behind their well worded PR "zero tolerance " spin.

I call on ITV BBC and the wokists like Mr Lineker to call a halt to this chanting and incriminatory behaviour and face it head on. Sky bowed down to the English racists drunks in the darts by turning down the volume and 'apologising to the viewers for any bad language'. They were not so generous to the 'Hungarian ultras'.

As I have advised this issue is slowly getting out of hand and the authorities need to act.

I expect to be called racist by by apologists. My target is far right drunken English thugs not the main English populace who I have a lot of time for.

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Tenerife on 15:08 - Nov 26 with 2352 viewsmax936

Tenerife on 15:02 - Nov 26 by ReslovenSwan1

If the assembled Welsh fans were subjected to filthy racially aggravated disorderly conduct (sheep themed slurs) they were entitled to act in 'self defence in my opinion. No one should be subjected to lurid abuse based on race or ethnicity especially on a foreign land .

I await further details. I have brought to the attention of this board that we as a nation have nowhere to hide in the face of this abuse. Gerwyn Price was thrown to the lions and took on his broad shoulders with his young family by his side. Top man. I join him in calling the English far right drunken thugs out. I have seen it close up and personal. I want the south Wales constabulary and Swansea city FC to put action behind their well worded PR "zero tolerance " spin.

I call on ITV BBC and the wokists like Mr Lineker to call a halt to this chanting and incriminatory behaviour and face it head on. Sky bowed down to the English racists drunks in the darts by turning down the volume and 'apologising to the viewers for any bad language'. They were not so generous to the 'Hungarian ultras'.

As I have advised this issue is slowly getting out of hand and the authorities need to act.

I expect to be called racist by by apologists. My target is far right drunken English thugs not the main English populace who I have a lot of time for.


That's a fair old rant, but I very much doubt sheep bothering was the cause of this disorder.

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Tenerife on 15:15 - Nov 26 with 2342 viewsKeithHaynes

Tenerife on 15:08 - Nov 26 by max936

That's a fair old rant, but I very much doubt sheep bothering was the cause of this disorder.


Should get a fair view, a few witnesses to it all may become available.



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Tenerife on 15:26 - Nov 26 with 2317 viewscontroversial_jack

Looks like the Welsh fans were just standing their ground and not being the aggressors, but who knows?
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Tenerife on 15:31 - Nov 26 with 2297 viewsBoundy

Tenerife on 15:02 - Nov 26 by ReslovenSwan1

If the assembled Welsh fans were subjected to filthy racially aggravated disorderly conduct (sheep themed slurs) they were entitled to act in 'self defence in my opinion. No one should be subjected to lurid abuse based on race or ethnicity especially on a foreign land .

I await further details. I have brought to the attention of this board that we as a nation have nowhere to hide in the face of this abuse. Gerwyn Price was thrown to the lions and took on his broad shoulders with his young family by his side. Top man. I join him in calling the English far right drunken thugs out. I have seen it close up and personal. I want the south Wales constabulary and Swansea city FC to put action behind their well worded PR "zero tolerance " spin.

I call on ITV BBC and the wokists like Mr Lineker to call a halt to this chanting and incriminatory behaviour and face it head on. Sky bowed down to the English racists drunks in the darts by turning down the volume and 'apologising to the viewers for any bad language'. They were not so generous to the 'Hungarian ultras'.

As I have advised this issue is slowly getting out of hand and the authorities need to act.

I expect to be called racist by by apologists. My target is far right drunken English thugs not the main English populace who I have a lot of time for.


Punch someone because they accuse you of of bothering sheep , yeah I'm sure sure the law will agree with you , no sorry I meant laugh at you

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Tenerife on 15:36 - Nov 26 with 2283 viewsGwyn737

Tenerife on 15:31 - Nov 26 by Boundy

Punch someone because they accuse you of of bothering sheep , yeah I'm sure sure the law will agree with you , no sorry I meant laugh at you


I think it’s ok if post arrest you do a dna test and are found to be ethnically Welsh. Or something.
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Tenerife on 15:39 - Nov 26 with 2284 viewspencoedjack

Tenerife on 15:02 - Nov 26 by ReslovenSwan1

If the assembled Welsh fans were subjected to filthy racially aggravated disorderly conduct (sheep themed slurs) they were entitled to act in 'self defence in my opinion. No one should be subjected to lurid abuse based on race or ethnicity especially on a foreign land .

I await further details. I have brought to the attention of this board that we as a nation have nowhere to hide in the face of this abuse. Gerwyn Price was thrown to the lions and took on his broad shoulders with his young family by his side. Top man. I join him in calling the English far right drunken thugs out. I have seen it close up and personal. I want the south Wales constabulary and Swansea city FC to put action behind their well worded PR "zero tolerance " spin.

I call on ITV BBC and the wokists like Mr Lineker to call a halt to this chanting and incriminatory behaviour and face it head on. Sky bowed down to the English racists drunks in the darts by turning down the volume and 'apologising to the viewers for any bad language'. They were not so generous to the 'Hungarian ultras'.

As I have advised this issue is slowly getting out of hand and the authorities need to act.

I expect to be called racist by by apologists. My target is far right drunken English thugs not the main English populace who I have a lot of time for.


I know both Swansea & Cardiff fans currently in Tenerife & I can assure you none of them would get wound up by a bit of banter.

Pretty sure they would give the same type of banter back the other way.

Football, sun, cheap booze for a 10am KO & then an old day bender add in readily available Columbia(ish) marching powder was always a recipe for disaster.

That’s the reality.
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Tenerife on 15:43 - Nov 26 with 2279 viewsReslovenSwan1

Tenerife on 15:31 - Nov 26 by Boundy

Punch someone because they accuse you of of bothering sheep , yeah I'm sure sure the law will agree with you , no sorry I meant laugh at you


It has happened to me directly three times. One to one. I do not find it funny and told the people it was racist. One threatened to smack me but didn't I walked away from another in a bar and one had an argument of whether it was racist or not. No free passes offered by me. Zero tolerance see butt. Fight or flight when insulted. Fight or laugh it off (effectively flight) .

I look to the law to treat all citizen equally whether Welsh, Pakistani, Jewish or African. It has been convicted in court of "aggravated racial disorderly conduct" most focused on Police and security people. Why should I be treated any different?

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Tenerife on 15:47 - Nov 26 with 2273 viewsSirjohnalot

Tenerife on 15:31 - Nov 26 by Boundy

Punch someone because they accuse you of of bothering sheep , yeah I'm sure sure the law will agree with you , no sorry I meant laugh at you


I have looked at my old dusty law books and cannot find a precedent for reasonable self defence if belting someone because they went ‘baaa’.
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Tenerife on 15:47 - Nov 26 with 2272 viewsBoundy

Tenerife on 15:36 - Nov 26 by Gwyn737

I think it’s ok if post arrest you do a dna test and are found to be ethnically Welsh. Or something.


What if it was consentual,

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Tenerife on 15:50 - Nov 26 with 2267 viewsGwyn737

Tenerife on 15:47 - Nov 26 by Boundy

What if it was consentual,


Fine if you’re both ginger and have freckles.
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Tenerife on 15:52 - Nov 26 with 2269 viewsBoundy

Tenerife on 15:47 - Nov 26 by Sirjohnalot

I have looked at my old dusty law books and cannot find a precedent for reasonable self defence if belting someone because they went ‘baaa’.


Thought not , ah well maybe its better to just laugh it off or ignore would be the best advice should such a situation arise

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Tenerife on 15:52 - Nov 26 with 2269 viewspencoedjack

Tenerife on 15:43 - Nov 26 by ReslovenSwan1

It has happened to me directly three times. One to one. I do not find it funny and told the people it was racist. One threatened to smack me but didn't I walked away from another in a bar and one had an argument of whether it was racist or not. No free passes offered by me. Zero tolerance see butt. Fight or flight when insulted. Fight or laugh it off (effectively flight) .

I look to the law to treat all citizen equally whether Welsh, Pakistani, Jewish or African. It has been convicted in court of "aggravated racial disorderly conduct" most focused on Police and security people. Why should I be treated any different?


Get over yourself I’m pretty sure the majority of English people don’t believe we shag sheep & think that we are so previous we believe it to be racist.

I don’t really believe

Swansea are the greatest team in football the world has ever seen

Wait to shite on the English side of the bridge

Think England is full of shite

Eddie May’s wife is a lesbian

& if I was in France when trained Russian fighters decided to batter anyone I would of run quicker than any of those around me.

Anyway you always bring it up pretty sure the majority don’t agree with you.
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Tenerife on 16:14 - Nov 26 with 2253 viewsReslovenSwan1

Tenerife on 15:47 - Nov 26 by Sirjohnalot

I have looked at my old dusty law books and cannot find a precedent for reasonable self defence if belting someone because they went ‘baaa’.


Racial abuse is a serious crime. Welsh people are not a 'special case'. We are a well know ethnic group. It my not get you off scot free but it its in my view a mitigating factor in your defence. This seems reasonable.

Animal noises are actually appalling and very provocative. Not to you you but me. We are not all the same. You must recognise this. You may be "gas lighted" in some way. Daily dehumanising abuse becoming acceptable. Putin has done this over Ukraine casting Ukrainians as Nazis and calling them hochols over history. Wales have put up wth it for 400 years. Do not make a fuss and laugh it off.

Lets assume 25% % regard there slurs as 'in your face filth'. That is Several hundreds of thousand men women and children. I put it to you and drunk English man hurling this abuse would intimidate a 6 year old girl quite a bit in a family context. Swansea city is a "family friendly club" apparently. This humour belongs in the military barrack room as character building or dingy late night comedy clubs.

You are in denial.

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Tenerife on 16:23 - Nov 26 with 2228 viewsSirjohnalot

Tenerife on 16:14 - Nov 26 by ReslovenSwan1

Racial abuse is a serious crime. Welsh people are not a 'special case'. We are a well know ethnic group. It my not get you off scot free but it its in my view a mitigating factor in your defence. This seems reasonable.

Animal noises are actually appalling and very provocative. Not to you you but me. We are not all the same. You must recognise this. You may be "gas lighted" in some way. Daily dehumanising abuse becoming acceptable. Putin has done this over Ukraine casting Ukrainians as Nazis and calling them hochols over history. Wales have put up wth it for 400 years. Do not make a fuss and laugh it off.

Lets assume 25% % regard there slurs as 'in your face filth'. That is Several hundreds of thousand men women and children. I put it to you and drunk English man hurling this abuse would intimidate a 6 year old girl quite a bit in a family context. Swansea city is a "family friendly club" apparently. This humour belongs in the military barrack room as character building or dingy late night comedy clubs.

You are in denial.


I disagree with your view. I’m not in denial.

You cannot seriously compare it to what Putin is doing. What are your views on Swansea fans calling Bristol supporters ‘thick farmers ‘ ? What’s the difference ? Do the Swansea fans deserved to be attacked for that ?

You are going back 400 years, in my respectful opinion, that’s insane. What has Wales in 2022 got to do with centuries old history ?

As I’ve said countless time , someone screaming in your face ‘Welsh @@@@ ‘ is entirely different to fans in the football shouting nonsense back to each other.

One is a criminal offence, the other (and please take it from me), clearly isn’t.

If a person is screaming in your face, when you have a child and you take the decision to strike him to stop him from attacking you, that is one thing.

2 lots of drunken idiots fighting each other is completely different.
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Tenerife on 16:43 - Nov 26 with 2201 viewsGwyn737

Tenerife on 16:14 - Nov 26 by ReslovenSwan1

Racial abuse is a serious crime. Welsh people are not a 'special case'. We are a well know ethnic group. It my not get you off scot free but it its in my view a mitigating factor in your defence. This seems reasonable.

Animal noises are actually appalling and very provocative. Not to you you but me. We are not all the same. You must recognise this. You may be "gas lighted" in some way. Daily dehumanising abuse becoming acceptable. Putin has done this over Ukraine casting Ukrainians as Nazis and calling them hochols over history. Wales have put up wth it for 400 years. Do not make a fuss and laugh it off.

Lets assume 25% % regard there slurs as 'in your face filth'. That is Several hundreds of thousand men women and children. I put it to you and drunk English man hurling this abuse would intimidate a 6 year old girl quite a bit in a family context. Swansea city is a "family friendly club" apparently. This humour belongs in the military barrack room as character building or dingy late night comedy clubs.

You are in denial.


How do you know the Welsh fans fighting are ethnically Welsh?
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Tenerife on 16:44 - Nov 26 with 2201 viewsTreforys_Jack

Tenerife on 15:43 - Nov 26 by ReslovenSwan1

It has happened to me directly three times. One to one. I do not find it funny and told the people it was racist. One threatened to smack me but didn't I walked away from another in a bar and one had an argument of whether it was racist or not. No free passes offered by me. Zero tolerance see butt. Fight or flight when insulted. Fight or laugh it off (effectively flight) .

I look to the law to treat all citizen equally whether Welsh, Pakistani, Jewish or African. It has been convicted in court of "aggravated racial disorderly conduct" most focused on Police and security people. Why should I be treated any different?


Really ? You should have mentioned it before mun !!!!
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Tenerife on 17:05 - Nov 26 with 2168 viewsReslovenSwan1

Tenerife on 16:43 - Nov 26 by Gwyn737

How do you know the Welsh fans fighting are ethnically Welsh?


I have posted what ethnicity means to you. It does not mean red hair and freckles but is it a hereditary factor. You prefer to run with this with your one line quips.

Somebody stated it is far more prudent to take it and not complain. This is an option. A coward's option. Gerwyn and his family stood in front of 4000 baying drunks and called them pathetic to their faces ad after keeping his nerve. Top man.

Naturally posters are not likely to be keen on this classification. Cap doffing has been around in Wales for decades. ("we are just as bad") Saying England is a dump is not racist. Saying Tel Aviv is a dump is not anti-semitic. Saying Ukranians are natural Nazis and Welsh people abuse sheep is. Both are dehumanising and fake.

Now in woke UK we have zero tolerance. Our Welsh runners can stop running away and do not even have to fight. The law are required to do their job. Swansea city if promoting zero tolerance cannot hide either.

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Tenerife on 17:12 - Nov 26 with 2145 viewsraynor94

Tenerife on 17:05 - Nov 26 by ReslovenSwan1

I have posted what ethnicity means to you. It does not mean red hair and freckles but is it a hereditary factor. You prefer to run with this with your one line quips.

Somebody stated it is far more prudent to take it and not complain. This is an option. A coward's option. Gerwyn and his family stood in front of 4000 baying drunks and called them pathetic to their faces ad after keeping his nerve. Top man.

Naturally posters are not likely to be keen on this classification. Cap doffing has been around in Wales for decades. ("we are just as bad") Saying England is a dump is not racist. Saying Tel Aviv is a dump is not anti-semitic. Saying Ukranians are natural Nazis and Welsh people abuse sheep is. Both are dehumanising and fake.

Now in woke UK we have zero tolerance. Our Welsh runners can stop running away and do not even have to fight. The law are required to do their job. Swansea city if promoting zero tolerance cannot hide either.


What a load of old tripe!

You give it out, you take it back it`s all part of the game
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Tenerife on 17:14 - Nov 26 with 2145 viewsKeithHaynes

Tenerife on 17:05 - Nov 26 by ReslovenSwan1

I have posted what ethnicity means to you. It does not mean red hair and freckles but is it a hereditary factor. You prefer to run with this with your one line quips.

Somebody stated it is far more prudent to take it and not complain. This is an option. A coward's option. Gerwyn and his family stood in front of 4000 baying drunks and called them pathetic to their faces ad after keeping his nerve. Top man.

Naturally posters are not likely to be keen on this classification. Cap doffing has been around in Wales for decades. ("we are just as bad") Saying England is a dump is not racist. Saying Tel Aviv is a dump is not anti-semitic. Saying Ukranians are natural Nazis and Welsh people abuse sheep is. Both are dehumanising and fake.

Now in woke UK we have zero tolerance. Our Welsh runners can stop running away and do not even have to fight. The law are required to do their job. Swansea city if promoting zero tolerance cannot hide either.


Yesterdays fisticuffs came about as a result of certain drunk English people barging in to a group of Welsh lads on a stag which developed in to a brawl, then they were skid-addled as a result. That isn’t on the video, that’s from the horses mouth. Where they were from and who they were is not for here. All I will say is you have to know your audience, and these guys didn’t.

And we all live and learn.

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Tenerife on 17:16 - Nov 26 with 2142 viewsGwyn737

Tenerife on 17:05 - Nov 26 by ReslovenSwan1

I have posted what ethnicity means to you. It does not mean red hair and freckles but is it a hereditary factor. You prefer to run with this with your one line quips.

Somebody stated it is far more prudent to take it and not complain. This is an option. A coward's option. Gerwyn and his family stood in front of 4000 baying drunks and called them pathetic to their faces ad after keeping his nerve. Top man.

Naturally posters are not likely to be keen on this classification. Cap doffing has been around in Wales for decades. ("we are just as bad") Saying England is a dump is not racist. Saying Tel Aviv is a dump is not anti-semitic. Saying Ukranians are natural Nazis and Welsh people abuse sheep is. Both are dehumanising and fake.

Now in woke UK we have zero tolerance. Our Welsh runners can stop running away and do not even have to fight. The law are required to do their job. Swansea city if promoting zero tolerance cannot hide either.


Why was that not done to Johnny Clayton?

Do you acknowledge that Gerwyn plays up to the crowd as a pantomime villain.

The fact you don’t count me as ethnically Welsh I find abhorrent.

The fact you compared it to Nazism in the Ukraine shows how far off reality you are.
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Tenerife on 17:24 - Nov 26 with 2127 viewsTreforys_Jack

Tenerife on 17:16 - Nov 26 by Gwyn737

Why was that not done to Johnny Clayton?

Do you acknowledge that Gerwyn plays up to the crowd as a pantomime villain.

The fact you don’t count me as ethnically Welsh I find abhorrent.

The fact you compared it to Nazism in the Ukraine shows how far off reality you are.


He won't acknowledge that as it doesn't fit his victim mentality. Or Gareth Bale, Alun Wyn, Joe Calzage, Sir Tom, etc etc . Just poor old Gerwyn, just why is that ?
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Tenerife on 17:28 - Nov 26 with 2112 viewsSirjohnalot

Tenerife on 17:05 - Nov 26 by ReslovenSwan1

I have posted what ethnicity means to you. It does not mean red hair and freckles but is it a hereditary factor. You prefer to run with this with your one line quips.

Somebody stated it is far more prudent to take it and not complain. This is an option. A coward's option. Gerwyn and his family stood in front of 4000 baying drunks and called them pathetic to their faces ad after keeping his nerve. Top man.

Naturally posters are not likely to be keen on this classification. Cap doffing has been around in Wales for decades. ("we are just as bad") Saying England is a dump is not racist. Saying Tel Aviv is a dump is not anti-semitic. Saying Ukranians are natural Nazis and Welsh people abuse sheep is. Both are dehumanising and fake.

Now in woke UK we have zero tolerance. Our Welsh runners can stop running away and do not even have to fight. The law are required to do their job. Swansea city if promoting zero tolerance cannot hide either.


Is 5,000 welsh fans calling Bristol supporters ‘thick farmers who can’t read or write’ racist ?
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Tenerife on 17:38 - Nov 26 with 2096 viewsSirjohnalot

Tenerife on 17:05 - Nov 26 by ReslovenSwan1

I have posted what ethnicity means to you. It does not mean red hair and freckles but is it a hereditary factor. You prefer to run with this with your one line quips.

Somebody stated it is far more prudent to take it and not complain. This is an option. A coward's option. Gerwyn and his family stood in front of 4000 baying drunks and called them pathetic to their faces ad after keeping his nerve. Top man.

Naturally posters are not likely to be keen on this classification. Cap doffing has been around in Wales for decades. ("we are just as bad") Saying England is a dump is not racist. Saying Tel Aviv is a dump is not anti-semitic. Saying Ukranians are natural Nazis and Welsh people abuse sheep is. Both are dehumanising and fake.

Now in woke UK we have zero tolerance. Our Welsh runners can stop running away and do not even have to fight. The law are required to do their job. Swansea city if promoting zero tolerance cannot hide either.


Crumbs. Heredity national ethnics has a very dodgy recent European history. Who cares about someone’s history ?

When you say ‘cap doffing’, what do you mean ? This bizarre welsh ‘woe is me’ attitude is bizarre. The English don’t have an issue with us, some welsh have it with them. I’ve never had an issue with any English person, maybe as I don’t go looking for it
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