| What do Swansea City have to do to please a small section of the clubs support ? 09:30 - Jan 15 with 5904 views | SwansIndependent |
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| What do Swansea City have to do to please a small section of the clubs support ? on 09:44 - Jan 15 with 2210 views | builthjack |
A good read.
The doom and gloomers on here should read it and take note.
Those fans yesterday went to the game positive, as they always do, and enjoy every win.
Proper supporters eh. |  |
| Swansea Indepenent Poster Of The Year 2021. Dr P / Mart66 / Roathie / Parlay / E20/ Duffle was 2nd, but he is deluded and thinks in his little twisted brain that he won. Poor sod. We let him win this year, as he has cried for a whole year. His 14 usernames, bless his cotton socks.
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| What do Swansea City have to do to please a small section of the clubs support ? on 09:46 - Jan 15 with 2175 views | Dr_Parnassus |
Top 6-8 consistently.
Playing smartly, sensibly and to our strengths.
I don’t think you will find anyone unhappy about our result against Sunderland, but people will be realistic about it that the result isn’t going to suddenly erase the last 18 months.
Especially considering the circumstances surrounding the win.
To my friend above… real supporters are realistic.. eh [Post edited 15 Jan 2023 9:54]
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| What do Swansea City have to do to please a small section of the clubs support ? on 10:03 - Jan 15 with 2115 views | Dr_Parnassus |
| What do Swansea City have to do to please a small section of the clubs support ? on 09:54 - Jan 15 by KeithHaynes |
The last 18 months have been very positive most of the time. The destruction of Cardiff, the rise of a style of football that appeals to me, a positive leadership coaching our young players, a fairly stable financial outlook, academy players functioning in the first team and a progressive developmental style of play which some people see as a positive.
But erasing the last 18 months ?
I think that’s more of a question for Cardiff City than Swansea. Why anyone would want to erase the fortunes of our club when it’s been a positive time with positive intent from those who care about how the future unfolds is beyond me.
And an increasing away support agree.
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15th last season, 15th prior to this match against 10 man Sunderland.
That’s not mostly very positive Keith, that’s mostly mediocre… with the odd good display such as the ones you mention on occasion (Cardiff, WBA etc) thrown in.
80+ matches and we can probably name 6 good ones.
The last 18 months have been awful, underperformance, a style of play being inflicted on the fans that is so far removed from the Swansea way it’s painful, ridiculous comments from the coaching team that have had us ridiculed by opposing clubs and fans alike that treat us like morons.
I have been supporting the Swans since 1994 and haven’t felt as disappointed by a management team as much as I have by this one, that’s nearly 30 years spanning all 4 divisions.
It’s going to take consistent performance to the level we should be at for me to be happy with the way things are going. A win now and again interspersed with long periods of dross is certainly not what I would call satisfactory for this side. | |
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| What do Swansea City have to do to please a small section of the clubs support ? on 10:11 - Jan 15 with 2107 views | onehunglow |
| What do Swansea City have to do to please a small section of the clubs support ? on 10:03 - Jan 15 by Dr_Parnassus |
15th last season, 15th prior to this match against 10 man Sunderland.
That’s not mostly very positive Keith, that’s mostly mediocre… with the odd good display such as the ones you mention on occasion (Cardiff, WBA etc) thrown in.
80+ matches and we can probably name 6 good ones.
The last 18 months have been awful, underperformance, a style of play being inflicted on the fans that is so far removed from the Swansea way it’s painful, ridiculous comments from the coaching team that have had us ridiculed by opposing clubs and fans alike that treat us like morons.
I have been supporting the Swans since 1994 and haven’t felt as disappointed by a management team as much as I have by this one, that’s nearly 30 years spanning all 4 divisions.
It’s going to take consistent performance to the level we should be at for me to be happy with the way things are going. A win now and again interspersed with long periods of dross is certainly not what I would call satisfactory for this side. |
I can add 35 years to your support and Martin is by far the most overloved,overrated manager we have had.
We ve had far worse but to even suggest he deserves this personal affection is plain weird .
It’s all very well us not being able to sack him but it doesn’t mean we should accept his shortcomings .
Yesterday, Sorinola came in to the field of play ? Why ?
Latibeaudiere still remains inept and easy to run past . We still have a fragile defence .
The standard in this league is the lowest I can remember
It ain’t a sin to doubt | |
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| What do Swansea City have to do to please a small section of the clubs support ? on 10:11 - Jan 15 with 2113 views | KeithHaynes |
| What do Swansea City have to do to please a small section of the clubs support ? on 10:03 - Jan 15 by Dr_Parnassus |
15th last season, 15th prior to this match against 10 man Sunderland.
That’s not mostly very positive Keith, that’s mostly mediocre… with the odd good display such as the ones you mention on occasion (Cardiff, WBA etc) thrown in.
80+ matches and we can probably name 6 good ones.
The last 18 months have been awful, underperformance, a style of play being inflicted on the fans that is so far removed from the Swansea way it’s painful, ridiculous comments from the coaching team that have had us ridiculed by opposing clubs and fans alike that treat us like morons.
I have been supporting the Swans since 1994 and haven’t felt as disappointed by a management team as much as I have by this one, that’s nearly 30 years spanning all 4 divisions.
It’s going to take consistent performance to the level we should be at for me to be happy with the way things are going. A win now and again interspersed with long periods of dross is certainly not what I would call satisfactory for this side. |
And conversely I have never been so positive in a management team in many years, amd I include Cooler, Potter and those ridiculous premier league appointments in the last few years.
As I think are the majority. |  |
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| What do Swansea City have to do to please a small section of the clubs support ? on 10:16 - Jan 15 with 2098 views | Badlands |
The dissatisfaction I feel is about failure to make the most of the squad. Too many points have been given away because of tactics or failure to manage games and the waste of squad numbers by Martin's refusal to play some obviously gifted players.
We have a top 6 squad held back by a mid-table manager. |  |
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| What do Swansea City have to do to please a small section of the clubs support ? on 10:18 - Jan 15 with 2078 views | onehunglow |
Ideally,find new owners .
Right now, tighten up defence and quit suicide passing in our own box
Then,shoot at goal more,which we did yesterday
We can be so much better . Never settle for second best. Always strive.
May we always have ambition
May we always have a plan
May we always have the courage | |
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| What do Swansea City have to do to please a small section of the clubs support ? on 10:19 - Jan 15 with 2057 views | Dr_Parnassus |
| What do Swansea City have to do to please a small section of the clubs support ? on 10:11 - Jan 15 by KeithHaynes |
And conversely I have never been so positive in a management team in many years, amd I include Cooler, Potter and those ridiculous premier league appointments in the last few years.
As I think are the majority. |
All the polls I see suggest the opposite.
I don’t see how the majority can be happy with such seasons, we have barely been in the top half in either season. | |
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| What do Swansea City have to do to please a small section of the clubs support ? on 10:25 - Jan 15 with 2056 views | onehunglow |
| What do Swansea City have to do to please a small section of the clubs support ? on 10:11 - Jan 15 by KeithHaynes |
And conversely I have never been so positive in a management team in many years, amd I include Cooler, Potter and those ridiculous premier league appointments in the last few years.
As I think are the majority. |
I ll try not to offend here but have to say I find that view extraordinary .
So much so,it leaves me bereft of a reply .
I am off to the Beach to contemplate my fate because I really really cannot understand that which you posted Keith . I’m actually rather concerned after reading that . | |
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| What do Swansea City have to do to please a small section of the clubs support ? on 10:33 - Jan 15 with 2011 views | Dr_Parnassus |
Feels like time for a fresh poll.
I’d be interested to see who has shifted their opinion. | |
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| What do Swansea City have to do to please a small section of the clubs support ? on 10:34 - Jan 15 with 2018 views | KeithHaynes |
| What do Swansea City have to do to please a small section of the clubs support ? on 10:33 - Jan 15 by Dr_Parnassus |
Feels like time for a fresh poll.
I’d be interested to see who has shifted their opinion. |
Maybe at an away game next week ?
QPR, I’ll set it up. By the fans who go to games etc. | |
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| What do Swansea City have to do to please a small section of the clubs support ? on 10:35 - Jan 15 with 2008 views | KeithHaynes |
| What do Swansea City have to do to please a small section of the clubs support ? on 10:25 - Jan 15 by onehunglow |
I ll try not to offend here but have to say I find that view extraordinary .
So much so,it leaves me bereft of a reply .
I am off to the Beach to contemplate my fate because I really really cannot understand that which you posted Keith . I’m actually rather concerned after reading that . |
I know, because it’s a positive outlook on a team that has a positive outlook ahead of them. I wouldn’t expect anything less or more from you as a response.
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| What do Swansea City have to do to please a small section of the clubs support ? on 10:39 - Jan 15 with 1954 views | Dr_Parnassus |
| What do Swansea City have to do to please a small section of the clubs support ? on 10:34 - Jan 15 by KeithHaynes |
Maybe at an away game next week ?
QPR, I’ll set it up. By the fans who go to games etc. |
Just one on here will do surely?
Many supporters can’t get to games for various reasons.
Einstein never went to space but was the Premier voice in the area, and probably still is. If we stopped him having a voice until he went, we would be in a far worse place for it. | |
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| What do Swansea City have to do to please a small section of the clubs support ? on 10:44 - Jan 15 with 1936 views | onehunglow |
| What do Swansea City have to do to please a small section of the clubs support ? on 10:35 - Jan 15 by KeithHaynes |
I know, because it’s a positive outlook on a team that has a positive outlook ahead of them. I wouldn’t expect anything less or more from you as a response.
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Hang on a minute
I was posting an opinion which we are allowed
Read back that which you just posted
Why is positive posting ,as you infer, only allowed
I am avoiding unpleasantness and I find your post rather unnecessary and offensive
There you go | |
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| What do Swansea City have to do to please a small section of the clubs support ? on 10:50 - Jan 15 with 1923 views | lifelong |
| What do Swansea City have to do to please a small section of the clubs support ? on 10:18 - Jan 15 by onehunglow |
Ideally,find new owners .
Right now, tighten up defence and quit suicide passing in our own box
Then,shoot at goal more,which we did yesterday
We can be so much better . Never settle for second best. Always strive.
May we always have ambition
May we always have a plan
May we always have the courage |
Maybe we should have wealthy owners similar to what our neighbours up the road have got? |  | | |
| What do Swansea City have to do to please a small section of the clubs support ? on 10:55 - Jan 15 with 1904 views | SullutaCreturned |
| What do Swansea City have to do to please a small section of the clubs support ? on 10:16 - Jan 15 by Badlands |
The dissatisfaction I feel is about failure to make the most of the squad. Too many points have been given away because of tactics or failure to manage games and the waste of squad numbers by Martin's refusal to play some obviously gifted players.
We have a top 6 squad held back by a mid-table manager. |
This is where I am. If Martin finally learns the lessons we have had to watch unfold, sometimes painfully, then he and we will improve.
We haven't got the players to play the way he has been forcing us to. When he makes pragmatic choices we get results, mostly.
Some people give Martin too much credit, some give him too much criticism. I'm firmly in the middle again having had enough earlier in the season when we were terrible and literally throwing points away as we gave goals away.
To please the fans the performances have to be better, we have to see progress. With a back 4, with Joe in midfield, with Cooper on, with support for Piroe we are again seeing progress so I am happier. If we don't sign players and revert to the wing back, suicidal passing nonsense I will become unhappy again.
It's all up to Martin. | | | |
| What do Swansea City have to do to please a small section of the clubs support ? on 10:56 - Jan 15 with 1898 views | pete |
| What do Swansea City have to do to please a small section of the clubs support ? on 09:44 - Jan 15 by builthjack |
A good read.
The doom and gloomers on here should read it and take note.
Those fans yesterday went to the game positive, as they always do, and enjoy every win.
Proper supporters eh. |
and i agree to a point but for me its the people at the top who are causing the major problems and i do not mean the manager/coach but owners and the people they have running the club on a daily basis, as the manager has said it was NOT up to him to bring back the lad from Plymouth, then he said he had been told no need to sell before buying and here we are THAT is what is causing the so called negatives promises broken and without doubt owners NO INTREST AT ALL | | | |
| What do Swansea City have to do to please a small section of the clubs support ? on 10:58 - Jan 15 with 1892 views | builthjack |
| What do Swansea City have to do to please a small section of the clubs support ? on 10:11 - Jan 15 by KeithHaynes |
And conversely I have never been so positive in a management team in many years, amd I include Cooler, Potter and those ridiculous premier league appointments in the last few years.
As I think are the majority. |
Anyone who is constantly negative needs to go to QPR next week. Turn up a few hours before the game and ask the fans who spend thousands each season to support their team.
We know what the answer will be. | |
| Swansea Indepenent Poster Of The Year 2021. Dr P / Mart66 / Roathie / Parlay / E20/ Duffle was 2nd, but he is deluded and thinks in his little twisted brain that he won. Poor sod. We let him win this year, as he has cried for a whole year. His 14 usernames, bless his cotton socks.
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| What do Swansea City have to do to please a small section of the clubs support ? on 10:59 - Jan 15 with 1887 views | KeithHaynes |
| What do Swansea City have to do to please a small section of the clubs support ? on 10:44 - Jan 15 by onehunglow |
Hang on a minute
I was posting an opinion which we are allowed
Read back that which you just posted
Why is positive posting ,as you infer, only allowed
I am avoiding unpleasantness and I find your post rather unnecessary and offensive
There you go |
You started the interaction by stating, at the risk of being insulting. Then insulted me.
You need to offer more examples and back them up with evidence instead of just spouting the same old thing day in day out. I don’t infer anything, but I’m also sick of removing posts stating Martin is detested, a fraud and hated which is wholly untrue. And leaves us open to legal redress. But then I wouldn’t expect the majority of posters to care about that. As you don’t. So we look after ourselves. Everything has a point even the daftest of scenarios if explained properly, more should try it. We always see this type of post after a Swansea win though, the dissatisfaction of the win projected in a different way.
As for me being offensive, trust me that’s an art form I mastered many years ago. Ask the ex posters on here, in the flesh and when they fail to back it up. So let’s move on.
If people responded to you in the same way you talk about Russell Martin you would explode. Think about it. | |
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| What do Swansea City have to do to please a small section of the clubs support ? on 11:00 - Jan 15 with 1883 views | magicdaps10 |
Whomever ever wrote that article is a little scamp! 🙈
I have no issue with fans having their view or opinions in regards to wanting better, I think the issue is that it's rammed down people's throats that their opinion is correct.
We can all take aspects, read things off the Internet and hear things........not a lot of it is correct so to make your opinions based on these is misguided but more than entitled to base an opinion off these if people wish.
An open mind is needed in so many things in life especially when it comes to the reality of things, putting one's self into a corner then creates the situation that they then want to make a wall when success happens when they have been so negative and ultimately after telling others that they are wrong, don't then want to tell the world that they have got something wrong........tend to counter it with things that they believe they were right or correct with, it only goes to mix the bowl in their head up even more determinly to prove others wrong. |  |
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| What do Swansea City have to do to please a small section of the clubs support ? on 11:02 - Jan 15 with 1859 views | Dr_Parnassus |
| What do Swansea City have to do to please a small section of the clubs support ? on 10:55 - Jan 15 by SullutaCreturned |
This is where I am. If Martin finally learns the lessons we have had to watch unfold, sometimes painfully, then he and we will improve.
We haven't got the players to play the way he has been forcing us to. When he makes pragmatic choices we get results, mostly.
Some people give Martin too much credit, some give him too much criticism. I'm firmly in the middle again having had enough earlier in the season when we were terrible and literally throwing points away as we gave goals away.
To please the fans the performances have to be better, we have to see progress. With a back 4, with Joe in midfield, with Cooper on, with support for Piroe we are again seeing progress so I am happier. If we don't sign players and revert to the wing back, suicidal passing nonsense I will become unhappy again.
It's all up to Martin. |
Spot on, there is far too much knee jerk.
We win one game and people come out of the woodwork trying to slate anyone who has ever criticised (correctly) in the past.
18 months of this, which has mostly been absolute rubbish, one win isn’t going to change people’s minds.
Just like if we were in the top 4 consistently for 18 months, the odd loss isn’t going to make people think we are doomed.
I will say right now, if Martin finishes top 6, regardless of what happens in the playoffs - I will say he has done a good job this season. Finish 7th, 8th and maybe even 9th and I’ll say he’s done fine.
Outside that and I’ll say it’s another season where it’s not good enough. I don’t think that’s the least bit controversial, and as you say it’s in Martins hands.
In the last 18 months we have been in that acceptable range for what? A month or so in total? And maybe 15 or 16 of those 18 months in the bottom half?
That’s a guess but that feels about right. | |
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| What do Swansea City have to do to please a small section of the clubs support ? on 11:04 - Jan 15 with 1858 views | Whiterockin |
| What do Swansea City have to do to please a small section of the clubs support ? on 10:58 - Jan 15 by builthjack |
Anyone who is constantly negative needs to go to QPR next week. Turn up a few hours before the game and ask the fans who spend thousands each season to support their team.
We know what the answer will be. |
This is true, football forums reflect the views of its posters, live football match supporters reflect the views of those who attend. They do not necessarily have the same viewpoint, there is a crossover but often the opinions are poles apart. |  | | |
| What do Swansea City have to do to please a small section of the clubs support ? on 11:09 - Jan 15 with 1853 views | Luther27 |
| What do Swansea City have to do to please a small section of the clubs support ? on 10:58 - Jan 15 by builthjack |
Anyone who is constantly negative needs to go to QPR next week. Turn up a few hours before the game and ask the fans who spend thousands each season to support their team.
We know what the answer will be. |
After one season of RM I gave up my season ticket as I didn’t enjoy the style of play and his constant drivel. I have attended the odd home game however.
My point is as I’m no longer a season ticket holder….away games were few and far between….I try to limit my comments as I leave that to the regular attendees wether home or away. But I think every Swans fan is entitled to an opinion and bearing in my mind this is an entertainment industry. If you don’t give the public what they want then the public won’t turn up. | | | |
| What do Swansea City have to do to please a small section of the clubs support ? on 11:17 - Jan 15 with 1836 views | Dr_Parnassus |
| What do Swansea City have to do to please a small section of the clubs support ? on 11:09 - Jan 15 by Luther27 |
After one season of RM I gave up my season ticket as I didn’t enjoy the style of play and his constant drivel. I have attended the odd home game however.
My point is as I’m no longer a season ticket holder….away games were few and far between….I try to limit my comments as I leave that to the regular attendees wether home or away. But I think every Swans fan is entitled to an opinion and bearing in my mind this is an entertainment industry. If you don’t give the public what they want then the public won’t turn up. |
You don’t get a view now then. 
Football will always be the same and it will never be true that only those that spend money on a ticket have a valid view.
It’s logical fallacy that will never stand up to any scrutiny other than football fans unable to prove their points with facts, so as a result ring-fencing a barrier around their views by applying arbitrary standards such as a purchased ticket to protect those views.
I’ll happily put my views of the game against anyone who buys a ticket, weekly. | |
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