| What do Swansea City have to do to please a small section of the clubs support ? 09:30 - Jan 15 with 5935 views | SwansIndependent |
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| What do Swansea City have to do to please a small section of the clubs support ? on 06:59 - Jan 17 with 855 views | Dr_Parnassus |
| What do Swansea City have to do to please a small section of the clubs support ? on 06:56 - Jan 17 by builthjack |
The choir in the East are still singing Martins name. The away support are still singing Martins name.
FACT. |
…. and what point are you making with that statement exactly?
We have still spent the majority of his management in the bottom half.
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| What do Swansea City have to do to please a small section of the clubs support ? on 08:40 - Jan 17 with 825 views | onehunglow |
| What do Swansea City have to do to please a small section of the clubs support ? on 06:59 - Jan 17 by Dr_Parnassus |
…. and what point are you making with that statement exactly?
We have still spent the majority of his management in the bottom half.
FACT |
The people singing are in the minority .
How many in the South or West blurt out ditties out of tune | |
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| What do Swansea City have to do to please a small section of the clubs support ? on 11:42 - Jan 17 with 792 views | lifelong |
| What do Swansea City have to do to please a small section of the clubs support ? on 08:40 - Jan 17 by onehunglow |
The people singing are in the minority .
How many in the South or West blurt out ditties out of tune |
And here we have it, so called supporters who haven’t been to a home game since the old King died criticising supporters who do. Unbelievable Jeff. |  | | |
| What do Swansea City have to do to please a small section of the clubs support ? on 11:57 - Jan 17 with 751 views | Dr_Parnassus |
| What do Swansea City have to do to please a small section of the clubs support ? on 11:42 - Jan 17 by lifelong |
And here we have it, so called supporters who haven’t been to a home game since the old King died criticising supporters who do. Unbelievable Jeff. |
Not a criticism is it?
Just an observation that in and amongst the heat of battle, realities get clouded by tribalism.
Not sure how it can be argued otherwise. | |
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| What do Swansea City have to do to please a small section of the clubs support ? on 12:13 - Jan 17 with 755 views | STID2017 |
| What do Swansea City have to do to please a small section of the clubs support ? on 08:40 - Jan 17 by onehunglow |
The people singing are in the minority .
How many in the South or West blurt out ditties out of tune |
Not so many in the West ( though more than you would 5hink )
The family stand can be very lively.
I have worked down there and experienced the atmosphere from every different viewpoint ( including the pitch side seats )
It isn't just the NE corner, even now.
When we are away 2,000 singing in unison is indeed a sight to behold |  |
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| What do Swansea City have to do to please a small section of the clubs support ? on 12:49 - Jan 17 with 739 views | guthrieintherain |
| What do Swansea City have to do to please a small section of the clubs support ? on 11:42 - Jan 17 by lifelong |
And here we have it, so called supporters who haven’t been to a home game since the old King died criticising supporters who do. Unbelievable Jeff. |
I got a season ticket so does that mean I can have an opinion.
If I lived abroad but was a Swans fan I would not bregrudge them an opinion it's a strange viewpoint that.
Back to the question what do Swansea City have to do to please me.
Play with more tempo.
Stop giving away easy goals
Our manager needs to get his head out of his backside and give players all players a fair crack.
The project needs to start moving along as I cannot see much improvement on the pitch at all. [Post edited 17 Jan 2023 12:59]
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| What do Swansea City have to do to please a small section of the clubs support ? on 12:55 - Jan 17 with 733 views | KeithHaynes |
| What do Swansea City have to do to please a small section of the clubs support ? on 12:49 - Jan 17 by guthrieintherain |
I got a season ticket so does that mean I can have an opinion.
If I lived abroad but was a Swans fan I would not bregrudge them an opinion it's a strange viewpoint that.
Back to the question what do Swansea City have to do to please me.
Play with more tempo.
Stop giving away easy goals
Our manager needs to get his head out of his backside and give players all players a fair crack.
The project needs to start moving along as I cannot see much improvement on the pitch at all. [Post edited 17 Jan 2023 12:59]
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I live abroad and still get to games, not sure why anyone can’t have an opinion, it’s just when they come with cynical nonsense it’s pointless. |  |
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| What do Swansea City have to do to please a small section of the clubs support ? on 13:04 - Jan 17 with 717 views | jack247 |
| What do Swansea City have to do to please a small section of the clubs support ? on 11:42 - Jan 17 by lifelong |
And here we have it, so called supporters who haven’t been to a home game since the old King died criticising supporters who do. Unbelievable Jeff. |
This is kind of the point I was making yesterday. Before streams existed and we’d be lucky to get a game a season on sky, these boards were much more harmonious and supportive towards the team. Even though we were plodding along, losing as many as we won in league 2.
Loads of valid reasons why people can’t make games. Living away, working patterns, childcare etc and of course these people have valid opinions. There just tends to be a different mindset. | | | |
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| What do Swansea City have to do to please a small section of the clubs support ? on 13:05 - Jan 17 with 717 views | guthrieintherain |
| What do Swansea City have to do to please a small section of the clubs support ? on 12:55 - Jan 17 by KeithHaynes |
I live abroad and still get to games, not sure why anyone can’t have an opinion, it’s just when they come with cynical nonsense it’s pointless. |
I agree Keith but have read on this thread and a couple of other threads that fans who.pay thousands travelling are more optomistic about the club etc etc.
It's nonsense just about everyone on here is a Swans fan and wants them to succeed myself included. | |
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| What do Swansea City have to do to please a small section of the clubs support ? on 13:28 - Jan 17 with 682 views | Treforys_Jack |
I'm far from happy with the way RM has managed my team, my opinion, no-one else's, hope that's ok with everyone. |  | | |
| What do Swansea City have to do to please a small section of the clubs support ? on 21:47 - Jan 17 with 611 views | KeithHaynes |
| What do Swansea City have to do to please a small section of the clubs support ? on 13:28 - Jan 17 by Treforys_Jack |
I'm far from happy with the way RM has managed my team, my opinion, no-one else's, hope that's ok with everyone. |
It could be a talking point. | |
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| What do Swansea City have to do to please a small section of the clubs support ? on 22:20 - Jan 17 with 583 views | Treforys_Jack |
| What do Swansea City have to do to please a small section of the clubs support ? on 21:47 - Jan 17 by KeithHaynes |
It could be a talking point. |
Don't start me off Keith  | | | |
| What do Swansea City have to do to please a small section of the clubs support ? on 07:01 - Jan 18 with 526 views | Dr_Winston |
I didn't go last night because frankly I couldn't be bothered. If the team was playing well I might have decided that sitting there in the freezing cold was worth it.
I still think that RM is taking us nowhere and that the club are well within their rights to maybe thinking that giving him even more cash to spend despite his well demonstrated inability to consistently get the best out of what he already has might not be the best idea.
If we were playing well but falling short due to a lack of quality then investment might be justified. [Post edited 18 Jan 2023 8:00]
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| What do Swansea City have to do to please a small section of the clubs support ? on 08:24 - Jan 18 with 479 views | 3swan |
| What do Swansea City have to do to please a small section of the clubs support ? on 07:01 - Jan 18 by Dr_Winston |
I didn't go last night because frankly I couldn't be bothered. If the team was playing well I might have decided that sitting there in the freezing cold was worth it.
I still think that RM is taking us nowhere and that the club are well within their rights to maybe thinking that giving him even more cash to spend despite his well demonstrated inability to consistently get the best out of what he already has might not be the best idea.
If we were playing well but falling short due to a lack of quality then investment might be justified. [Post edited 18 Jan 2023 8:00]
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Agree.
I think we need 3 or 4 first team players to have a go at the play offs. There is no way I can see that happening. Even then they would need to be adaptable to RM's style. My view at the start of the season was finishing 10-12 , I still feel the same. It would be a waste of limited funds, in bringing loan players just to keep us at a mid table finish, as we should be able to do that with the current squad. | | | |
| What do Swansea City have to do to please a small section of the clubs support ? on 08:31 - Jan 18 with 465 views | Dr_Parnassus |
| What do Swansea City have to do to please a small section of the clubs support ? on 08:24 - Jan 18 by 3swan |
Agree.
I think we need 3 or 4 first team players to have a go at the play offs. There is no way I can see that happening. Even then they would need to be adaptable to RM's style. My view at the start of the season was finishing 10-12 , I still feel the same. It would be a waste of limited funds, in bringing loan players just to keep us at a mid table finish, as we should be able to do that with the current squad. |
In what positions and to replace who?
I only think we are short of a wing back.
Even in Brendan’s team we had more gaps than that. The issue is the manager is creating more gaps by his inability to manage certain players.
Pato and Obafemi walk into most teams in this division, in fact the runaway leaders want the latter… yet we are not playing them because the manager can’t get along with them.
In terms of a squad, it is one of the most complete we have ever had at this level. Internationals in defence, midfield and attack. | |
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| What do Swansea City have to do to please a small section of the clubs support ? on 08:47 - Jan 18 with 470 views | jack247 |
| What do Swansea City have to do to please a small section of the clubs support ? on 07:01 - Jan 18 by Dr_Winston |
I didn't go last night because frankly I couldn't be bothered. If the team was playing well I might have decided that sitting there in the freezing cold was worth it.
I still think that RM is taking us nowhere and that the club are well within their rights to maybe thinking that giving him even more cash to spend despite his well demonstrated inability to consistently get the best out of what he already has might not be the best idea.
If we were playing well but falling short due to a lack of quality then investment might be justified. [Post edited 18 Jan 2023 8:00]
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This isn’t a Russell Martin thing. It happened to Potter and Cooper too | | | |
| What do Swansea City have to do to please a small section of the clubs support ? on 09:23 - Jan 18 with 449 views | felixstowe_jack |
| What do Swansea City have to do to please a small section of the clubs support ? on 08:47 - Jan 18 by jack247 |
This isn’t a Russell Martin thing. It happened to Potter and Cooper too |
10,000 turned out last night but Martin puts out a sub standard team with 7 changes from the Win at Sunderland.
Does he not realise that rhe extra revenue from winning Cup matches and reaching the next round means he can strengthen the Squad during the transfer window.
His next excuse in February will be we did not get in New players. | |
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| What do Swansea City have to do to please a small section of the clubs support ? on 09:55 - Jan 18 with 426 views | Boundy |
| What do Swansea City have to do to please a small section of the clubs support ? on 09:23 - Jan 18 by felixstowe_jack |
10,000 turned out last night but Martin puts out a sub standard team with 7 changes from the Win at Sunderland.
Does he not realise that rhe extra revenue from winning Cup matches and reaching the next round means he can strengthen the Squad during the transfer window.
His next excuse in February will be we did not get in New players. |
As someone else said , last night's game displayed poor end product and a lack of urgency ultimately ending in a waste of energy and for some , time | |
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| What do Swansea City have to do to please a small section of the clubs support ? on 10:00 - Jan 18 with 417 views | jack247 |
| What do Swansea City have to do to please a small section of the clubs support ? on 09:23 - Jan 18 by felixstowe_jack |
10,000 turned out last night but Martin puts out a sub standard team with 7 changes from the Win at Sunderland.
Does he not realise that rhe extra revenue from winning Cup matches and reaching the next round means he can strengthen the Squad during the transfer window.
His next excuse in February will be we did not get in New players. |
Well yes because it’s a three game week and the league is the priority.
I’m probably coming across as a Martin fan here, when a lot of his decisions frustrate me beyond belief, but some of the criticism he gets is unfair.
He’ll be absolutely right if he says that in February. A home game with West Brom isn’t going to be the difference between bringing in players or not. | | | |
| What do Swansea City have to do to please a small section of the clubs support ? on 10:13 - Jan 18 with 399 views | Dr_Winston |
| What do Swansea City have to do to please a small section of the clubs support ? on 08:47 - Jan 18 by jack247 |
This isn’t a Russell Martin thing. It happened to Potter and Cooper too |
It didn't though.
Potter knew his budget when he took over. The club wouldn't exceed it so he jumped at the Brighton offer. Cooper had a gripe because the club wouldn't sign the exact players he wanted, again because of budget. | |
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| What do Swansea City have to do to please a small section of the clubs support ? on 10:35 - Jan 18 with 388 views | jack247 |
| What do Swansea City have to do to please a small section of the clubs support ? on 10:13 - Jan 18 by Dr_Winston |
It didn't though.
Potter knew his budget when he took over. The club wouldn't exceed it so he jumped at the Brighton offer. Cooper had a gripe because the club wouldn't sign the exact players he wanted, again because of budget. |
That isn’t true. Potter thought he was getting Ryan Woods for £5m or so depending on sales (which happened). He was even ‘unwell’ for his press conference when reality dawned. He jumped at he Brighton offer because they were in the Premier League, as virtually anyone would have done. You’re far too astute to believe he’d have stayed here if they’d given him a couple of million to spend.
To not give Martin money because they haven’t got money to give is one thing. To not do so because they don’t trust him to spend it, when we’re 3 points off the playoffs and we’ve earned more from selling one of his signings than we’ve spent in total since he’s been here would be lunacy. | | | |
| What do Swansea City have to do to please a small section of the clubs support ? on 10:40 - Jan 18 with 383 views | NotLoyal |
| What do Swansea City have to do to please a small section of the clubs support ? on 10:13 - Jan 18 by Dr_Winston |
It didn't though.
Potter knew his budget when he took over. The club wouldn't exceed it so he jumped at the Brighton offer. Cooper had a gripe because the club wouldn't sign the exact players he wanted, again because of budget. |
I would say Potter knew a figure, but never got it, which is why Cooper left, if supposition is where we are at. |  |
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| What do Swansea City have to do to please a small section of the clubs support ? on 11:11 - Jan 18 with 359 views | STID2017 |
| What do Swansea City have to do to please a small section of the clubs support ? on 13:05 - Jan 17 by guthrieintherain |
I agree Keith but have read on this thread and a couple of other threads that fans who.pay thousands travelling are more optomistic about the club etc etc.
It's nonsense just about everyone on here is a Swans fan and wants them to succeed myself included. |
I am a ST holder and get away when I can.
I must say it is in my nature to be optimistic before every game no matter who the opposition.
During the course of the game that may ebb and flow of course.
We aren't setting the world on fire ( nor have we been since Laudrup left bar the odd game IMHO ), but we are certainly far from the worst.
Of course all opinions are welcome, but it can make one fed up when you have made the effort to travel 14 hours plus to a game ( I didn't, but a great following last Saturday for example ) just to read from some armchair cynics how poor or lucky we were.
I think this is the type of thing that causes the divide ? | |
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| What do Swansea City have to do to please a small section of the clubs support ? on 16:32 - Jan 18 with 302 views | cadleigh |
I was a bit confused as to the authorship of this article. Is it Swansea Independent? Swansea Independent Sunday Voice?
I have no objection to people sharing their opinions under a pseudonym (after all I do, as do most people on here) but if you are going to challenge other posters to cheer up, it would be helpful if we could see what the author was posting when Cooper was the manager, or Potter, or Sousa. If they were arguing that everyone should lighten up and get behind the manager then, fair enough. But maybe there's a way of seeing the previous posts by this author and I'm just not clicking in the right places, in which case apologies are due.
I don't class myself as an armchair supporter. I'll be there at QPR (but I won't be joining other Indy posters I'm afraid as I'm doing Dry January - next time!). But I do acknowledge I am a critic of Russell Martin and it would take a pretty big turnaround to change my views. It's not just the walking football/possession for its own sake that he constanty reverts to that annoys me (I get that some supporters love it; each to their own), it's the refusal to take responsibility for his mistakes, throwing players under the bus in the media, and subborn refusal to learn that annoys me.
To return to the question asked at the top of this thread, am I annoyed for no reason? Not at all, I have lots of reasons to be annoyed! | |
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