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General Election Thread 17:46 - May 22 with 219581 viewsloftboy

This will be the first election that I have no idea who to vote for, will never vote Tory again after the lies during covid where my dad lost his life, don’t trust starmer, would never vote for a bunch of racists like reform , anyone give me a clue?

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First voted in 1985 as a naive 18 year old on 19:37 - May 22 with 3235 viewsG_Ottershaw

First voted in 1985 as a naive 18 year old on 19:30 - May 22 by T_Block

Please vote.Everyone should vote.Don't care for whom.None of the above is generally Monster raving Looney


agree 100% it should be mandatory. it's not just about who you want in, sometimes it's about who you want out!
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First voted in 1985 as a naive 18 year old on 19:42 - May 22 with 3206 viewsPunteR

Never voted. Bunch of c'nts.
At 47 years of age ive seen all the political parties have their moment in the sunshine. All as bad/good as each other.
Anyway, this is a football forum. Lets stick to the rules, and not let Bazza get all moist.
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First voted in 1985 as a naive 18 year old on 19:52 - May 22 with 3153 viewsNoDiddley

I voted in the locals the other week, simply because you can’t moan who gets in if you don’t ?
I had to take ID which is affront to me.
Will do the same at the general, stick a tail on a donkey.
U R’s
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First voted in 1985 as a naive 18 year old on 20:07 - May 22 with 3087 viewsHooparoo

At least you don’t have compulsory voting like we do. Just think of all the numpties you have met then imagine that they all vote and it counts just the same as yours. 😬

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First voted in 1985 as a naive 18 year old on 20:15 - May 22 with 3056 viewsBucksRanger

Been waiting for any political party to proclaim that they would be extremely tough on drug dealers. For 25 years now I've never seen a party mention the drugs problem in this country at all. It won't be any different this time around, I'm sure. So, sod the lot of them. They're all a waste of time.
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First voted in 1985 as a naive 18 year old on 20:15 - May 22 with 3048 viewsBazzaInTheLoft

First voted in 1985 as a naive 18 year old on 19:42 - May 22 by PunteR

Never voted. Bunch of c'nts.
At 47 years of age ive seen all the political parties have their moment in the sunshine. All as bad/good as each other.
Anyway, this is a football forum. Lets stick to the rules, and not let Bazza get all moist.
[Post edited 24 May 23:34]


Was this necessary?
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First voted in 1985 as a naive 18 year old on 20:17 - May 22 with 3037 viewsstevec

First voted in 1985 as a naive 18 year old on 20:15 - May 22 by BucksRanger

Been waiting for any political party to proclaim that they would be extremely tough on drug dealers. For 25 years now I've never seen a party mention the drugs problem in this country at all. It won't be any different this time around, I'm sure. So, sod the lot of them. They're all a waste of time.


Meant to upvote that. Fat fingers strike again
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First voted in 1985 as a naive 18 year old on 20:21 - May 22 with 3018 viewsBucksRanger

First voted in 1985 as a naive 18 year old on 20:17 - May 22 by stevec

Meant to upvote that. Fat fingers strike again


And there was I thinking you must be a drug dealer. Thank God you told me it was an error.
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First voted in 1985 as a naive 18 year old on 20:28 - May 22 with 2992 viewsBeckenhamhoop

I’d happily vote for any party that took the railways, utilities, Steel making and nuclear power out of private (foreign) ownership and re Nationalised them all. Whose bright idea was it to get China involved in our Nuclear energy or British taxpayers subsiding French energy via part French State owned EDF? It seems the Post Office is next to be flogged off to the highest bidder.

All the parties seem as utterly hopeless as each other and for the first time since I was able to vote in 1983 I probably won’t bother. How did things get quite this bad?
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First voted in 1985 as a naive 18 year old on 20:39 - May 22 with 2952 viewsted_hendrix

I'd Imagine you'll vote nearer the time Loftboy.

I've spent a million years In the Labour party and a few Years ago I used to work In the Labour party headquarters In Newbury that used to be down by the station during one of the GE's. (licking envelopes that sort of thing)
The Tory majority In Newbury was huge beyond belief and they were duly re-elected, people might say I was wasting my time trying to fight against such a huge majority but that's not for me I didn't see It that way.
Can't preach/wont preach but I would urge anyone who's anyone to use your vote, It's so-so very valuable.
The last time I looked my old Labour club In Newbury had become a Conservative club (LOL and all that)

My Father had a profound influence on me, he was a lunatic.

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First voted in 1985 as a naive 18 year old on 20:39 - May 22 with 2950 viewsMalintabuk

Tin hat time here..... but I will vote Tory simply because of the local candidate
Being an ex miner voting Tory was akin to treason and my grandfather would disown me. But in the last couple of years I have had to call upon my local MP twice and both time he as been really proactive.
The honorable gentleman of Thanet South is also a pretty tough old cookie and to fight what he as been through takes guts and courage.... he'll do for me
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First voted in 1985 as a naive 18 year old on 20:42 - May 22 with 2938 viewsJuzzie

First voted in 1985 as a naive 18 year old on 20:28 - May 22 by Beckenhamhoop

I’d happily vote for any party that took the railways, utilities, Steel making and nuclear power out of private (foreign) ownership and re Nationalised them all. Whose bright idea was it to get China involved in our Nuclear energy or British taxpayers subsiding French energy via part French State owned EDF? It seems the Post Office is next to be flogged off to the highest bidder.

All the parties seem as utterly hopeless as each other and for the first time since I was able to vote in 1983 I probably won’t bother. How did things get quite this bad?


Whether people are left or right leaning I’ve always felt the core basic needs should not be in the hands of for-profit organisations. Public transport, health, education, water, gas, electricity.

Let capitalism have people fighting over whether they buy coke or pepsi, nike or adidas, ford or toyota, levi’s or Lee, apple or samsung and so on…..
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First voted in 1985 as a naive 18 year old on 20:46 - May 22 with 2916 viewscolinallcars

Apparently when Rishi heard that over 5K R's fans had bought their STs in a week he thought “things are looking up, let's call the election “
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First voted in 1985 as a naive 18 year old on 20:48 - May 22 with 2892 viewsCiderwithRsie

First voted in 1985 as a naive 18 year old on 18:04 - May 22 by dmm

Loftboy, great question but we can't discuss it on LfW. I respect Clive's call for no political threads on here despite wishing I could respond to your and many other political posts. All I do is quote The Who's classic song, Won't Get Fooled Again, Meet the new boss, same as the old boss


"Meet the new boss, same as the old boss"

If, on July 4th, Marti Cifuentes rips off his mask and reveals that he has in fact been Mick Beale all along, then political threads are going to be the least of Clive's worries
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First voted in 1985 as a naive 18 year old on 20:51 - May 22 with 2886 viewsJuzzie

First voted in 1985 as a naive 18 year old on 20:39 - May 22 by Malintabuk

Tin hat time here..... but I will vote Tory simply because of the local candidate
Being an ex miner voting Tory was akin to treason and my grandfather would disown me. But in the last couple of years I have had to call upon my local MP twice and both time he as been really proactive.
The honorable gentleman of Thanet South is also a pretty tough old cookie and to fight what he as been through takes guts and courage.... he'll do for me


Well thats ok imo, you’re voting for someone who has helped you out and has strong values. Better than “well, i always vote xxxx regardless” “my mum/dad/nan voted for xxxx so i do too”, “well corbyn wouldn’t have done any better…” “Boris is funny so i’ll vote for him” which you won’t have unless you lived in Uxbridge and South Ruislip and so on. How many people do this kind of thing without actually ever reading a manifesto?
I loved it a few years ago when a reporter went to guildford and asked blue-rinsed old ladies if they like a selection of policies, to which they all agreed, and the look on their faces when they were told they were Labour policies. “Well….. i’ll still vote tory anyway….”.


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First voted in 1985 as a naive 18 year old on 21:05 - May 22 with 2833 viewsCiderwithRsie

First voted in 1985 as a naive 18 year old on 18:26 - May 22 by colinallcars

I think it's now Hammersmith and Chiswick constituency, so LR still in same borough.
Folk living south of Hammersmith Broadway, I believe are now in Chelsea & Fulham.
So, our borough has no Prem clubs ! We are the biggest team ! You R's !
Ps..by borough I really mean constituency. Hammersmith & Fulham remains the council body.
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This is correct - for anyone worried (or hopeful come to that) boundary changes relate to MP's constituencies and are supposed to make sure that each MP represents roughly the same number of people - local councils don't need to be equal, they just have to roughly make sense as a unit.In our case it's still London Borough of Hammersmith and Fulham, which continues to include us, Chelsea and Fulham

So any arguments with, or help from, the local council that we can expect will be with the same bunch of people irrespective of what happens in this election.

FWIW the next council elections will be 2026 though I can't see it changing the council much, it's currently 36 Labour v 11 Conservative; "our" local councillor (White City ward) is Labour, as is "theirs" (Walham Green) but Fulham's (Palace and Hurlingham ward) is Conservative (insert your own Tarquin reference here)
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First voted in 1985 as a naive 18 year old on 21:12 - May 22 with 2794 viewsPunteR

First voted in 1985 as a naive 18 year old on 20:15 - May 22 by BazzaInTheLoft

Was this necessary?


Which bit ?

Mentioning you ? Political thread? Probably .
You could have seen the funny side.

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First voted in 1985 as a naive 18 year old on 21:12 - May 22 with 2795 viewsCiderwithRsie

For those who can't vote for any of the existing parties, I'd like to point out that last time out Count Binface stood in Uxbridge on a manifesto of moving the hand dryer in the Crown & Treaty House bogs to a more sensible location, which I thought had merit.
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First voted in 1985 as a naive 18 year old on 21:34 - May 22 with 2734 viewsWatford_Ranger

Fortunately I now live in one of the places the Tories might as well not run in so it’s between Labour and Greens. Wasn’t a fan of the Greens anyway but less so now they’ve attracted an assortment of cranks.

Starmer isn’t exciting but then I don’t want politicians to be exciting. He’s achieved a lot in his life without being dealt a brilliant hand and it’ll be nice to just have a sensible adult in charge. It’ll need two terms to get even close to sorting out and I doubt he’ll fancy the second of those but I really hope the lot in now are done for a long long time.

The rats are deserting but hopefully we get a few big names crying in a leisure centre somewhere.
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First voted in 1985 as a naive 18 year old on 21:36 - May 22 with 2732 viewsEsox_Lucius

I was going to give this a swerve but after reading a number of replies saying they don't know who to vote for etc. and they're all the same, I can offer an opinion based on following what's been going on outside the mainstream media feed.
Red flags with Labour include abstaining on almost every bill the Tories have passed, reneging on every pledge they have made since 2019, receiving millions in donations from private healthcare companies and abstaining on the calls for a ceasefire in Gaza. Labour are basically the Tories when Cameron was in charge and the Tories are basically UKIP.
The Workers Party under Galloway may look attractive as an alternative but their views on women's rights are very suspect imo.
Greens are a viable alternative, certainly better than the main three parties but not ideal.
There is a good chance that there will be a significant number of independent candidates standing and that is where my vote will be going; many will be forming loose coalitions to try to push changes like PR through and to vote against bills which may go against public feeling
I hope this has helped a few of you who have doubts as to which way to vote but please do try to get out and vote. Be the change, let's get MP's who will work for those who elected them and not for donors.
Thanks for taking the time to read this.

The grass is always greener.

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First voted in 1985 as a naive 18 year old on 21:41 - May 22 with 2716 viewsLblock

Was surprised to hear Sunak announced his resignation earlier

Do we all panic as Marti Ciffuntes listed as 7/1 in the replacement odds

When will this merrygoround stop???????

Cherish and enjoy life.... this ain't no dress rehearsal

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First voted in 1985 as a naive 18 year old on 21:52 - May 22 with 2694 viewsstowmarketrange

First voted in 1985 as a naive 18 year old on 20:39 - May 22 by Malintabuk

Tin hat time here..... but I will vote Tory simply because of the local candidate
Being an ex miner voting Tory was akin to treason and my grandfather would disown me. But in the last couple of years I have had to call upon my local MP twice and both time he as been really proactive.
The honorable gentleman of Thanet South is also a pretty tough old cookie and to fight what he as been through takes guts and courage.... he'll do for me


My local Tory has turned into a labour mp and the locals aren’t happy,but he’s standing down at the election anyway.
I’ve written to him three times since he’s been our mp and he hasn’t replied to any of them.Funny though that he got involved when the Ipswich northern bypass was expected to go close to his mansion.
They could put pol pot in a blue rosette up here and he’d be elected.But I can’t see myself voting for Starmer’s Tory light brigade,so I’m at a loss at the minute.
Stevec’s none of the above looks like my preferred option.
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First voted in 1985 as a naive 18 year old on 21:52 - May 22 with 2693 viewsStJude82

I think Sunak's had enough. He's looking forward to a 40 year holiday.
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First voted in 1985 as a naive 18 year old on 22:00 - May 22 with 2670 viewscolinallcars

I know there are those that say why vote, they're all the same, but not knowing the exact figures I would say Conservatives have been in charge for about 75% of the time over the last hundred years.
Tony Blair is a hate figure because of sucking up to Bush but a bullet point list of his governments show some really beneficial policies for large sections of our population.
That said, no more posts from me on this subject in case it all gets out of hand.
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First voted in 1985 as a naive 18 year old on 22:03 - May 22 with 2653 viewsNorthernr

First voted in 1985 as a naive 18 year old on 19:09 - May 22 by Paddyhoops

For the “Standing at the back looking very stupid party” .I presume .
On a serious note. Everyone should try and vote.
Even if you write C***s on the ballot paper . At least you’ve made the effort.


My perhaps unhelpful contribution to this is that if you do go and write CNTS on your ballot paper, the candidates all see it.

Discovered this when I covered election counts. Spoiled ballot papers have to be agreed as spoiled by all parties. So they all line up there and get shown the spoilt ones and have to say "agree" or "object".

The reason being somebody might put a tick in one of the boxes, but write on the bottom "I hate all these cnts but this is the one I hate the least". Officially it's a spoilt paper, but it's pretty clear who the person wants to vote for. So the 'less cnty' party would want to object and claim that one. But it does of course mean that they have to stand there for 15 minutes or so being shown multiple bits of paper that people have written NONSE on. Which was always quite amusing.

Anyway, unrealistic to think we won't have a general election thread so here it is - please just keep it respectful of each other as QPR fans.
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