| Ashes thread 18:40 - Oct 9 with 46493 views | BlackCrowe |
Kicks off next month with the news that Cummins is likely out of the first test and possibly most/all of the series. That helps. |  |
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| Ashes thread on 16:28 - Nov 21 with 1818 views | ed_83 |
| Ashes thread on 11:25 - Nov 21 by GaryBannister86 |
What do we think from here? Apparently the track does tend to flatten out, but it only going to be the start of Day 2 (hopefully) we bat.
I'd like a 350 lead to defend but I am not quite sure how we are going to get there. I guess because of the potential flattening out we are hardly going to hang around.
Should be a cracking Test, regardless. If you told me this time yesterday we would take 9 Aussie wickets on the first day I would have been ecstatic. Naturally, we'd have lost 10 in the first place, but I probably would have been less surprised by that!
Reminds me of the 90s tours when you would wake up for the last session and see Gooch and Athers still batting and think we must have turned it around with a 200 run opening partnership, then discovered we were actually bowled out for 100 and following on :-) |
I know it's obvious, but it's really all about whether our batting lineup can step up now and match the bowlers. Huge opportunity for them to set a competitive total on a flattening pitch against a weakened Aussie attack. Do that, and you'd surely back us to take 10 wickets in the two and a half days (or more) we'd have left. Fall short of 200 / 250ish again and it's a very different proposition.
In a weird way, even though our batting was worse than theirs in the first innings I'd rather be in our position. Cut out the cheap wickets and you can see opportunities - Boland in particular looks gettable. Australia didn't even bat particularly badly, we've just absolutely steamrollered them. It's all there for us, we've just got to sort the batting out. [Post edited 21 Nov 17:49]
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| Ashes thread on 17:04 - Nov 21 with 1691 views | Superhoops2808 |
Get old 'Ratty' out first thing this morning then take our time and build a 2nd innings lead. The Aussies batting is too fragile to chase a decent score of 300
Social Media (And even here), people dont learn... Wait for both sides to bat first. Stars of the day clearly were Stokes and Starc. For me that says a lot about the pitch but what do I know. One guy was self combusting I am sure over Crawley... Till Root did exactly the same thing
I said bat first and get runs on the board. Looks like we may have a lead of around 40 odd runs. Our stats prove we can win a test away from home when batting first - Still confident we will be 1 up at the end of this test.
Also, didnt realise there was such a decent gap between the first 3 tests. That will play in to our favour I think allowing Wood/Archer to get fresh |  | | |
| Ashes thread on 17:26 - Nov 21 with 1618 views | RBlock |
| Ashes thread on 14:55 - Nov 21 by Rsole |
There were some poor batting choices and shots made by both sides, interspersed with some excellent bowling. |
What really got my goat was the tailenders getting out to some really cheap shots, instead of playing around Jamie Smith. He was in good touch, scoring at a decent rate. Carse in particular was an awful dismissal. |  | | |
| Ashes thread on 21:15 - Nov 21 with 1375 views | SydneyRs |
Aus media hailing Starc as a hero but blaming their innings on the batsmen. No praise for our bowling! | | | |
| Ashes thread on 00:03 - Nov 22 with 1232 views | Superhoops2808 |
| Ashes thread on 21:15 - Nov 21 by SydneyRs |
Aus media hailing Starc as a hero but blaming their innings on the batsmen. No praise for our bowling! |
To be fair, they got it half right - It was the Starc and Stokes show. However, our other bowlers backed up really well especially by Archer and Gus Atkinson, the Aussie bowlers were shocking. Boland going at more than 6 an over for example | | | |
| Ashes thread on 02:20 - Nov 22 with 1173 views | Superhoops2808 |
And off we go again
Rain earlier and cracks already opening up | | | |
| Ashes thread on 03:06 - Nov 22 with 1117 views | Kiwi76 |
Can’t persist with Crawley surely - stunning catch but he’s way to loose |  | | |
| Ashes thread on 03:07 - Nov 22 with 1116 views | Superhoops2808 |
What a time to get a pair for the first time ever in Internationals - Great catch though, cant keeep Starc out the game | | | |
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| Ashes thread on 03:07 - Nov 22 with 1115 views | ozexile |
Crawley gone for another duck. | | | |
| Ashes thread on 03:08 - Nov 22 with 1103 views | Rsole |
So much for the long term planning around Crawley and how suited he is to Australian conditions….
Outstanding by Starc mind you. [Post edited 22 Nov 3:11]
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| Ashes thread on 03:15 - Nov 22 with 1078 views | Superhoops2808 |
| Ashes thread on 03:08 - Nov 22 by Rsole |
So much for the long term planning around Crawley and how suited he is to Australian conditions….
Outstanding by Starc mind you. [Post edited 22 Nov 3:11]
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I'm glad you added that last sentence, because in truth Crawley didnt do much wrong but was done by the extra bounce that Starc found coupled with a superb catch (that I am not sure why it took so long to check)
But even as a fan of Crawley I cannot realistically see him keeping his place in this team past this series unless he produces a few big scores. | | | |
| Ashes thread on 03:45 - Nov 22 with 1043 views | Rsole |
| Ashes thread on 03:15 - Nov 22 by Superhoops2808 |
I'm glad you added that last sentence, because in truth Crawley didnt do much wrong but was done by the extra bounce that Starc found coupled with a superb catch (that I am not sure why it took so long to check)
But even as a fan of Crawley I cannot realistically see him keeping his place in this team past this series unless he produces a few big scores. |
It’s all very entertaining and a great advert for the game. It’s got a bunch of us up at a stupid hour glued to it and thousands of fans spending thousands on tour !
I don’t think they will drop him for this series but he’s apparently averaging 30 and Pope is averaging 45 over the last 12 months - but Pope is under a lot more pressure for some reason. He actually looks a lot more comfortable at the crease too - in this game.
I guess it’s more down to who replaces them and Pope has more obvious pressure on his place, as they are betting on Bethell long term. There was a pretty decent knock by the Lions opener in both innings during the warm up game but that pitch was a very different pitch to this one - not to mention the environment and pressure. Just watch Duckett and Head constantly going after each other - Duckett never seems to let it bother him much. That’s just experience and temperament from playing under pressure - probably not the time to throw someone new into the mix.
More the obsessive planning around one player that’s the issue for me, when there’s been such a team focus for everything else.
As for the catch - Aussie TV has Simon Taufell explaining the analysis and the focus on catches in particular - HD allows for a serious review and they have clearly been told to triple check. To the naked eye it looked 100% clean in real time but they are going to check them all. | |
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| Ashes thread on 03:50 - Nov 22 with 1029 views | Rsole |
Buzzers ! Just the best | |
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| Ashes thread on 03:53 - Nov 22 with 1024 views | Superhoops2808 |
I think Pope has improved a lot and think the criticism is harsh. Had a good warm up game which will have helped his mindset
Thanks for the umpire update that explains a lot | | | |
| Ashes thread on 04:16 - Nov 22 with 1000 views | Rsole |
| Ashes thread on 03:53 - Nov 22 by Superhoops2808 |
I think Pope has improved a lot and think the criticism is harsh. Had a good warm up game which will have helped his mindset
Thanks for the umpire update that explains a lot |
The Aussie TV coverage is very good -free to air, so lots of ads and switching between channels by region but they pick up on the details well, plus there’s a good balance of experts on comms and on call for analysis.
Reminds me of the old C4 team that they had many years ago. | |
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| Ashes thread on 04:33 - Nov 22 with 959 views | Superhoops2808 |
I'm making do with TNT - Apart from The Chef, comms are pretty woeful | | | |
| Ashes thread on 04:53 - Nov 22 with 926 views | Rsole |
Lunchtime reporting on Lyon’s hip injury. They had him mic’ed up during some of the game.
Good to have batted first, with the pitch cracking already. | |
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| Ashes thread on 05:23 - Nov 22 with 898 views | stowmarketrange |
We’re doing our best to let them back into it again. |  | | |
| Ashes thread on 05:25 - Nov 22 with 886 views | Rsole |
| Ashes thread on 05:23 - Nov 22 by stowmarketrange |
We’re doing our best to let them back into it again. |
No need for the last two wickets - just leave the ball alone. | |
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| Ashes thread on 05:27 - Nov 22 with 870 views | stowmarketrange |
| Ashes thread on 05:25 - Nov 22 by Rsole |
No need for the last two wickets - just leave the ball alone. |
4 wickets for 11 runs.Pathetic. | | | |
| Ashes thread on 05:30 - Nov 22 with 860 views | Rsole |
| Ashes thread on 05:27 - Nov 22 by stowmarketrange |
4 wickets for 11 runs.Pathetic. |
The look on Stuart Broad’s face in the Comms Box would indicate that he agrees with you….
Smith just dropped | |
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| Ashes thread on 06:28 - Nov 22 with 765 views | HantsR |
Murmur for Labuchet? - not out Similar for Smith - out, after 5 mins VAR!
However, some demon bowling in this match from both teams.
Air Asia Rs shirt prominent. |  | | |
| Ashes thread on 06:28 - Nov 22 with 763 views | numptydumpty |
Oh blimey. The length of time taken to overturn that decision on Smith. Very minimal spike after the bat has passed the ball with no evident deviation. Just a thought - occasionally technology goes wrong.
I think if 200 or more is the target, we could win, but anything below, we are in big trouble ! [Post edited 22 Nov 6:30]
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| Ashes thread on 06:41 - Nov 22 with 730 views | Rsole |
| Ashes thread on 06:28 - Nov 22 by numptydumpty |
Oh blimey. The length of time taken to overturn that decision on Smith. Very minimal spike after the bat has passed the ball with no evident deviation. Just a thought - occasionally technology goes wrong.
I think if 200 or more is the target, we could win, but anything below, we are in big trouble ! [Post edited 22 Nov 6:30]
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At this stage, Australia still need to get the biggest innings total of the game when they bat.
Two of them may not bat….. | |
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| Ashes thread on 06:45 - Nov 22 with 716 views | GaryBannister86 |
| Ashes thread on 06:28 - Nov 22 by numptydumpty |
Oh blimey. The length of time taken to overturn that decision on Smith. Very minimal spike after the bat has passed the ball with no evident deviation. Just a thought - occasionally technology goes wrong.
I think if 200 or more is the target, we could win, but anything below, we are in big trouble ! [Post edited 22 Nov 6:30]
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Problem is Jamie Smith gave the third umpire an out, admitting his guilt really. By the letter of the law (which everyone forgets) benefit of the doubt goes to the batter.... |  | | |
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