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ITV's coverage last night... 10:31 - Jul 12 with 19225 viewsGus_iom

Clarke trying to drive a wedge between manager and team in his immediate post-match interview.
Wright, Neville and Co. laughing like little kids pre-match because the camera panned on to Haaland's dad, Keane was in the room and it's all so funny, because, you know. Keane snapped his leg...
Fck off.

Edited to get name of interviewer right
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ITV's coverage last night... on 12:59 - Jul 20 with 1648 viewsfrancisbowles

ITV's coverage last night... on 16:18 - Jul 15 by nick_hammersmith

I think the Beeb are in a no win there.
Even if they flew a handful of crew and presenters out to region there could be outcry as its essentially our money paying for flights, accommodation etc

Should be major cost savings coming soon as Terrestrial broadcast will move away from using aerials to deliver a signal and large broadcasters don't have to pay for distribution of those video signals, might take a few years though, the change to colour was massive and the analogue to digital was a seven year project in itself...

When everyone is watching an OTT stream it becomes a lot easier for the viewer to choose an alternative commentary for example, or dynamically switch to ref cam or a player ISO etc.
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All ok until your stream crashes.

Digital has many faults that Analogue didn't. TVs take much longer to switch on and change channels.

Sound levels are more difficult to control on digital devices. You used to be able to turn a knob (behave) and get exactly the sound level you wanted. Now it can be a little too quiet or a little too loud, difficult to find the ideal level.
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ITV's coverage last night... on 13:01 - Jul 20 with 1611 viewsfrancisbowles

How many on here watched the final on ITV?

What did Roy Keane have to say about 'the afters'?
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ITV's coverage last night... on 13:57 - Jul 20 with 1430 viewsterryb

ITV's coverage last night... on 13:01 - Jul 20 by francisbowles

How many on here watched the final on ITV?

What did Roy Keane have to say about 'the afters'?


I watched it on ITV as I prefer McCoist to the others & Neville in the studio. The drawback with this was having Dixon on.

I've no idea what was said by Keane though, as I turned over at half time to watch part of a film & switched off at the end of the match.
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ITV's coverage last night... on 14:06 - Jul 20 with 1410 viewsTheChef

ITV's coverage last night... on 13:57 - Jul 20 by terryb

I watched it on ITV as I prefer McCoist to the others & Neville in the studio. The drawback with this was having Dixon on.

I've no idea what was said by Keane though, as I turned over at half time to watch part of a film & switched off at the end of the match.


I like McCoist but he can't make up for the awfulness of Matterface and Dixon.

Mowbray and Shearer did a good job I think.

As for the pundits I couldn't really care less, I just tune in for the actual football.

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ITV's coverage last night... on 14:23 - Jul 20 with 1365 viewsnick_hammersmith

ITV's coverage last night... on 12:59 - Jul 20 by francisbowles

All ok until your stream crashes.

Digital has many faults that Analogue didn't. TVs take much longer to switch on and change channels.

Sound levels are more difficult to control on digital devices. You used to be able to turn a knob (behave) and get exactly the sound level you wanted. Now it can be a little too quiet or a little too loud, difficult to find the ideal level.


I could write a few hundred words on audio for you! ;p

There are probably a couple of things going on that cause this.

The main culprit is some guidance, known as EBU R128, which is to do with following a consistent loudness of the Television signal.

Stemming from complaints that adverts were significantly louder than the programmes this was introduced.

The guidance is that content shouldn't exceed -23 LUFS over the whole programme.

A cheap and lazy way to adhere to this is to run your content through a filter, this invariably makes the loud parts quieter and the quiet parts louder, as everything is squashed into a smaller dynamic range.

Like everything its a compromise, as that narrow dynamic range helps compression and allows us to put more services on the same transponder for example.

Another issue maybe that the content was made for surround sound and the end user only has stereo, so is losing some of the nuance.

Most of the startup of "smart" tvs seem to be loading that massive programme guide.
In order to remain cheap they actually have less power than the average Raspberry Pi (a cheap computer). I actually remember some old CRT (tube TVs) taking a while to turn on and even turn off, while the cap tries to discharge.
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ITV's coverage last night... on 14:33 - Jul 20 with 1324 viewsdaveB

Is Gabriel Clarke still seen as the devil for asking about Mentality as to why Tuchel wasn't happy with the performance when it turned out we did have a mentality issue in the key moment.
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ITV's coverage last night... on 14:40 - Jul 20 with 1300 viewsnick_hammersmith

ITV's coverage last night... on 14:33 - Jul 20 by daveB

Is Gabriel Clarke still seen as the devil for asking about Mentality as to why Tuchel wasn't happy with the performance when it turned out we did have a mentality issue in the key moment.


Or did Gabriel Clarke actually sow the seed that created the mentality problems?

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ITV's coverage last night... on 14:43 - Jul 20 with 1294 viewsJuzzie

ITV's coverage last night... on 14:33 - Jul 20 by daveB

Is Gabriel Clarke still seen as the devil for asking about Mentality as to why Tuchel wasn't happy with the performance when it turned out we did have a mentality issue in the key moment.


It wasn't the 'mentality' that narked people off, it was the fact he told Bellingham that Tuchel wasn't happy with the performance to which Bellingham replied 'whatever' in an indignant manner... job done!

But keep defending him!
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ITV's coverage last night... on 14:54 - Jul 20 with 1270 viewsdaveB

ITV's coverage last night... on 14:43 - Jul 20 by Juzzie

It wasn't the 'mentality' that narked people off, it was the fact he told Bellingham that Tuchel wasn't happy with the performance to which Bellingham replied 'whatever' in an indignant manner... job done!

But keep defending him!


will do, did we think Bellingham wouldn't find out what Tuchel said about the team performance, still all comes from his original answer when he could have just said it was a great effort to get through
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ITV's coverage last night... on 17:27 - Jul 20 with 1080 viewseastside_r

9.7m vs 2.4m. Says it all really.

No, no, no - the people have spoken.
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ITV's coverage last night... on 18:01 - Jul 20 with 995 viewsdaveB

ITV's coverage last night... on 17:27 - Jul 20 by eastside_r

9.7m vs 2.4m. Says it all really.

No, no, no - the people have spoken.


is always the case when it's on both channels, people go to the BBC as they have no ads whilst a lot of people watching on BBC furiously tweet about BBC begging for money and they should be defunded etc.

Having that many people watching though is great for TV, enjoy it whilst you can before this all ends up behind paywalls
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ITV's coverage last night... on 21:29 - Jul 20 with 826 viewsnix

ITV's coverage last night... on 18:01 - Jul 20 by daveB

is always the case when it's on both channels, people go to the BBC as they have no ads whilst a lot of people watching on BBC furiously tweet about BBC begging for money and they should be defunded etc.

Having that many people watching though is great for TV, enjoy it whilst you can before this all ends up behind paywalls


I always go to BBC given the choice because I’m not a fan of Lee Dixon and I thought their panel was much better.

And I never thought Gabriel Clarke was the devil (hyperbole) but I still think it was a pisspoor interview. That doesn’t mean I want him to die just to be clear.

People always want things for free. And they still complain about it. I don’t think a lot of thought goes into it.
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