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1:19 pm today was the exact mid point from when the result that the Great British public had decided to leave the EU and the time 11pm March 29th 2019 that Democracy will be delivered.

Happy days.
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The Countdown begins. on 22:35 - Sep 7 with 469 viewspeenemunde

The Countdown begins. on 22:31 - Sep 7 by longlostjack

You must do. What was your time again this year in the Swansea marathon? Think carefully.


Have I ever mentioned a time then ? Especially for a marathon that doesn’t exist.
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The Countdown begins. on 22:36 - Sep 7 with 469 viewslonglostjack

What’s keeping you Peens? What was your start number?

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The Countdown begins. on 22:39 - Sep 7 with 457 viewspeenemunde

The Countdown begins. on 22:36 - Sep 7 by longlostjack

What’s keeping you Peens? What was your start number?


Are you drunk ? Tut tut.🤣
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The Countdown begins. on 22:41 - Sep 7 with 456 viewslonglostjack

The Countdown begins. on 22:35 - Sep 7 by peenemunde

Have I ever mentioned a time then ? Especially for a marathon that doesn’t exist.


Night Peens. Off to bed now. Let’s talk about your running prowess tomorrow eh? I’ll dig out a few threads. Sleep tight Troll.

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The Countdown begins. on 22:59 - Sep 7 with 434 viewspeenemunde

The Countdown begins. on 22:41 - Sep 7 by longlostjack

Night Peens. Off to bed now. Let’s talk about your running prowess tomorrow eh? I’ll dig out a few threads. Sleep tight Troll.


Yes I’m looking forward to you pulling up a thread, where I’ve said a time for a race that does not exist.🤣
They do say “old age doesn’t come alone”.
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The Countdown begins. on 23:11 - Sep 7 with 431 viewslonglostjack

The Countdown begins. on 22:59 - Sep 7 by peenemunde

Yes I’m looking forward to you pulling up a thread, where I’ve said a time for a race that does not exist.🤣
They do say “old age doesn’t come alone”.


Fantastic time you must have done. Not the cleverest are you Peens. Anyway - sleep tight, don’t let the bugs bite.
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The Countdown begins. on 06:22 - Sep 8 with 393 viewspeenemunde

The Countdown begins. on 23:11 - Sep 7 by longlostjack

Fantastic time you must have done. Not the cleverest are you Peens. Anyway - sleep tight, don’t let the bugs bite.
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You really shouldn’t drink 😂
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The Countdown begins. on 07:35 - Sep 8 with 384 viewsBatterseajack

The Countdown begins. on 21:48 - Sep 7 by Catullus

We know Westminster isn't perfect either but at least we get to vote on who is in power. Just for effect, who ever voted for any one of the EU presidents or the commission?
If the EU isn't corrupt it's negligent at best and incompetent at worst, how else can it's accounts be in such bad shape? Not signed off by it's own auditors for 20 years, what would an independent auditor make of them?
There are by the way, some pro Eu types who do "have a hard on" but only because they'd rather be ruled by Brussels than "the English" and they'd rather be independent even if the WAG reduced Wales to an agrarian backwater with no NHS, no decent schools and we all tugged our forelocks to our betters.


We vote for the representatives who work on our behalf in the EU, they then in turn vote for the commissioner and president. In your ideal world how would you have it?

If the general public voted for these jobs it would decend into a Eurovision type voting farce, where the countries would only vote for candidates from neighbouring countries and wouldn’t have a clue what candidates stood for.

Who voted for Jeremy hunt to be foreign secretary? Or Sajid Javid to be Home Secretary? Or who the head of our civil service is?
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The Countdown begins. on 07:56 - Sep 8 with 373 viewspeenemunde

The Countdown begins. on 07:35 - Sep 8 by Batterseajack

We vote for the representatives who work on our behalf in the EU, they then in turn vote for the commissioner and president. In your ideal world how would you have it?

If the general public voted for these jobs it would decend into a Eurovision type voting farce, where the countries would only vote for candidates from neighbouring countries and wouldn’t have a clue what candidates stood for.

Who voted for Jeremy hunt to be foreign secretary? Or Sajid Javid to be Home Secretary? Or who the head of our civil service is?


The British people have never voted to be part of the Frankenstein project (eu).
Only once has the British people been asked a question on eu membership and the result was “up yours”, we are leaving.

So basically if people still can’t accept this they should think about leaving the country.
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The Countdown begins. on 08:16 - Sep 8 with 367 viewsCatullus

The Countdown begins. on 07:35 - Sep 8 by Batterseajack

We vote for the representatives who work on our behalf in the EU, they then in turn vote for the commissioner and president. In your ideal world how would you have it?

If the general public voted for these jobs it would decend into a Eurovision type voting farce, where the countries would only vote for candidates from neighbouring countries and wouldn’t have a clue what candidates stood for.

Who voted for Jeremy hunt to be foreign secretary? Or Sajid Javid to be Home Secretary? Or who the head of our civil service is?


Come on now, the civil service is a seperate issue, the EU has an administrative branch too.

Right, the rest of it, isn't the elction process the same situation (Eurovision type farce) because it is politicians from those countries voting for politicians? Besides which the selection process is subtley different. In the UK we know who we are voting for, we know who the leaders of the parties are and who will be Prime minister depending on who wins.
In the EU the nominees are picked by the council of ministers. Yes that's right, our Prime minister has a say in who will be EU president. Then the MEP's get to say yes or no.
So we have politicians choosing the leaders and that is not democracy.....democracy from the Greek Demos which means the populace as a political unit.....who in the populace of the EU chose or voted for any of the Commission or President?
That's before we ask wjy we trust/trusted Blair, Cameron or May....then possibly Corbyn to help choose an EU leader when we didn't/don't trust them to run our own country.
You're argument also highlights another issue, the Eurovision farce as you called it, many people across Europe are fed up of having decisions made by politicians from other countries. The nationalistic trends haven't been stopped and it's the anger at some of these decisions that is helping fuel the rise of the far right across Europe.
The people are losing interest in the EU as shown by voter turnout, in 1979 61.99% turned out to vote, the turnout has been in decline ever since and in 2014 it was 42.61%. It's a long term downward trend that shows at best apathy and at worst disillusionment with the EU is growing.
You can dispute the last bit but many on here questioned the result of the referendum because it was so close though it was a 72% turnout, the biggest in decades for any vote and several use the stat that only 36% actually voted leave as a reason to ignore it. At least over half the UK electorate bother to vote in a general election.
There is a democratic deficit in the EU, their powers keep on increasing yet their mandate keeps on falling, in the UK just 35.6% voted at the last EU election. When so few people are bothered it's surprising so many wanted to stay, maybe they were convinved to vote remain by project fear?

Just my opinion, but WTF do I know anyway?
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The Countdown begins. on 08:41 - Sep 8 with 358 viewsBatterseajack

The Countdown begins. on 08:16 - Sep 8 by Catullus

Come on now, the civil service is a seperate issue, the EU has an administrative branch too.

Right, the rest of it, isn't the elction process the same situation (Eurovision type farce) because it is politicians from those countries voting for politicians? Besides which the selection process is subtley different. In the UK we know who we are voting for, we know who the leaders of the parties are and who will be Prime minister depending on who wins.
In the EU the nominees are picked by the council of ministers. Yes that's right, our Prime minister has a say in who will be EU president. Then the MEP's get to say yes or no.
So we have politicians choosing the leaders and that is not democracy.....democracy from the Greek Demos which means the populace as a political unit.....who in the populace of the EU chose or voted for any of the Commission or President?
That's before we ask wjy we trust/trusted Blair, Cameron or May....then possibly Corbyn to help choose an EU leader when we didn't/don't trust them to run our own country.
You're argument also highlights another issue, the Eurovision farce as you called it, many people across Europe are fed up of having decisions made by politicians from other countries. The nationalistic trends haven't been stopped and it's the anger at some of these decisions that is helping fuel the rise of the far right across Europe.
The people are losing interest in the EU as shown by voter turnout, in 1979 61.99% turned out to vote, the turnout has been in decline ever since and in 2014 it was 42.61%. It's a long term downward trend that shows at best apathy and at worst disillusionment with the EU is growing.
You can dispute the last bit but many on here questioned the result of the referendum because it was so close though it was a 72% turnout, the biggest in decades for any vote and several use the stat that only 36% actually voted leave as a reason to ignore it. At least over half the UK electorate bother to vote in a general election.
There is a democratic deficit in the EU, their powers keep on increasing yet their mandate keeps on falling, in the UK just 35.6% voted at the last EU election. When so few people are bothered it's surprising so many wanted to stay, maybe they were convinved to vote remain by project fear?


So what process would you have for the president and commissioner of the EU to be elected?

And the civil service is not a separate issue, the EU constantly gets criticised for its unelected bureaucrats. These are no different to our civil servants.
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The Countdown begins. on 09:16 - Sep 8 with 343 viewsCatullus

The Countdown begins. on 08:41 - Sep 8 by Batterseajack

So what process would you have for the president and commissioner of the EU to be elected?

And the civil service is not a separate issue, the EU constantly gets criticised for its unelected bureaucrats. These are no different to our civil servants.
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By unelected bureaucrats they mean politicians not admin staff which is what civil servants are, even if (at times) it looks like the civil service are actually in charge.

What process to elect the president and commissioner, is that a joke question? An election of course. There are plenty of MEP's so they could propose/second etc then the candidates follow the usual route in a democracy, they have a campaign, put their manifesto forward and the people vote. One person, one vote, one winner.

Do you find it interesting that in what used to be called Europes most Liberal country they are on the verge of putting a far right party into government? At least into coalition.
Crime and immigration have caused a massive swing there. Rape is on the increase and since 2015 60% of convicted rapists have been foreign born with 40% having been in Sweden less than a year. There is also a rise in gangland shootings and (I remember seeing this a while back) a spate of so called synchronised arson where social media is used to plan burning dozens of cars. This is happening across Europe.
Maybe just as interesting is, it's the centrist parties that are losing out, the far left party is making gains too, extremism is rising in Europe and it's the EU that's being given as the reason by these more extreme groups. Are we heading for another war maybe?

Just my opinion, but WTF do I know anyway?
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The Countdown begins. on 09:27 - Sep 8 with 340 viewsJango

The Countdown begins. on 08:41 - Sep 8 by Batterseajack

So what process would you have for the president and commissioner of the EU to be elected?

And the civil service is not a separate issue, the EU constantly gets criticised for its unelected bureaucrats. These are no different to our civil servants.
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There’s no process that works. It’s a failure, it’s corrupt and it’s going backwards. That’s why we voted out.
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The Countdown begins. on 09:54 - Sep 8 with 316 viewsjohnlangy

The Countdown begins. on 07:35 - Sep 8 by Batterseajack

We vote for the representatives who work on our behalf in the EU, they then in turn vote for the commissioner and president. In your ideal world how would you have it?

If the general public voted for these jobs it would decend into a Eurovision type voting farce, where the countries would only vote for candidates from neighbouring countries and wouldn’t have a clue what candidates stood for.

Who voted for Jeremy hunt to be foreign secretary? Or Sajid Javid to be Home Secretary? Or who the head of our civil service is?


Stop talking sense for God's sake.
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The Countdown begins. on 10:38 - Sep 8 with 298 viewspikeypaul

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The Countdown begins. on 10:48 - Sep 8 with 294 viewsthe_oracle

The Countdown begins. on 07:56 - Sep 8 by peenemunde

The British people have never voted to be part of the Frankenstein project (eu).
Only once has the British people been asked a question on eu membership and the result was “up yours”, we are leaving.

So basically if people still can’t accept this they should think about leaving the country.


" So basically if people still can’t accept this they should think about leaving the country". Didn't notice that leaving meant the ending of free movement for British in EU, then?
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The Countdown begins. on 10:51 - Sep 8 with 290 viewsCatullus

The Countdown begins. on 09:54 - Sep 8 by johnlangy

Stop talking sense for God's sake.


So maybe we should adopt that mechanism here then, don't bother with party leaders, we can just choose our MP and then let them say yes or no to whoever the cabinet wants, of course the cabinet would be a semi permanent fixture chosen by the last PM and in place until the next PM chooses their replacements.

Just my opinion, but WTF do I know anyway?
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The Countdown begins. on 10:53 - Sep 8 with 288 viewspikeypaul

The Countdown begins. on 10:48 - Sep 8 by the_oracle

" So basically if people still can’t accept this they should think about leaving the country". Didn't notice that leaving meant the ending of free movement for British in EU, then?


No but it does not stop the southern Irish living off us here fecking off back home.

And any of them that stays are total hypocrites and have no right to complain .

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The Countdown begins. on 11:00 - Sep 8 with 283 viewssherpajacob

When required to put up or shut up, guess which option JRM and his ERG chose.?

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/eurosceptics-shelve-their-rival-brexit-bluepr

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The Countdown begins. on 11:54 - Sep 8 with 267 viewsBatterseajack

The Countdown begins. on 11:00 - Sep 8 by sherpajacob

When required to put up or shut up, guess which option JRM and his ERG chose.?

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/eurosceptics-shelve-their-rival-brexit-bluepr


And there we have it. Very easy to heckle from the back benches, but these brexiteers have no idea on what they want from Brexit and can’t agree amongst themselves. No one will be happy with the final outcome.
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The Countdown begins. on 12:02 - Sep 8 with 260 viewspeenemunde

The Countdown begins. on 10:48 - Sep 8 by the_oracle

" So basically if people still can’t accept this they should think about leaving the country". Didn't notice that leaving meant the ending of free movement for British in EU, then?


British citizens are free to move to an eu country as it stands.
Nothing to stop them and they’ll have the right to stay in an eu country post Brexit.
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The Countdown begins. on 12:04 - Sep 8 with 260 viewsBatterseajack

Fans right, many of the problems the world faces can’t be fixed with national politics and require close cooperation with friends and allies.

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The Countdown begins. on 13:27 - Sep 8 with 245 viewspeenemunde

The Countdown begins. on 12:04 - Sep 8 by Batterseajack

Fans right, many of the problems the world faces can’t be fixed with national politics and require close cooperation with friends and allies.



Artificial problems that arise, then all of a sudden globalist politicians magically have the answer.
Globalisation means lowering living standards in this country.
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The Countdown begins. on 13:41 - Sep 8 with 239 viewspikeypaul

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Thought I would post it again today since it makes me feel 😊

Not long now lads.
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The Countdown begins. on 20:04 - Sep 8 with 176 viewsCatullus

These people/posters love the EU, can't they see what it's doing? Look at Sweden, the most liberal country in Europe is being driven to the right by the EU. Tommorrow, for the first time since 1917 the social democrats may not be the biggest party and the right wing National Swedish Democrats may become part of the government. The NSD were once considered pro Nazi, fascist and white supremacists.
If Sweden can be driven to this, why do people here still think the EU is so great?

Just my opinion, but WTF do I know anyway?
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