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OUT WITH A DEAL EATING OUR CAKE AND LOVING IT suck it up remoaners
And like a typical anti democracy remoaner he decided the will of the people should be ignored the minute the democratic result was in total fecking hypocrite 😂😂😂😂😂😂
Despite it being voted in to law by the commons the spineless two faced remoaner MPs have totally abandoned any morals and decided to ignore the will of the British people.
It will be remembered and no election or referendum will ever be the same again in this country.
The one thing that will come is a massive surge in the popularity of UKIP or a similar party in the future who stand for the 52%.
Happy Days.
[Post edited 1 Jan 2021 14:13]
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The Countdown begins. on 22:41 - Sep 7 by longlostjack
Night Peens. Off to bed now. Let’s talk about your running prowess tomorrow eh? I’ll dig out a few threads. Sleep tight Troll.
Yes I’m looking forward to you pulling up a thread, where I’ve said a time for a race that does not exist.🤣 They do say “old age doesn’t come alone”.
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The Countdown begins. on 23:11 - Sep 7 with 2992 views
The Countdown begins. on 22:59 - Sep 7 by peenemunde
Yes I’m looking forward to you pulling up a thread, where I’ve said a time for a race that does not exist.🤣 They do say “old age doesn’t come alone”.
Fantastic time you must have done. Not the cleverest are you Peens. Anyway - sleep tight, don’t let the bugs bite.
The Countdown begins. on 21:48 - Sep 7 by Catullus
We know Westminster isn't perfect either but at least we get to vote on who is in power. Just for effect, who ever voted for any one of the EU presidents or the commission? If the EU isn't corrupt it's negligent at best and incompetent at worst, how else can it's accounts be in such bad shape? Not signed off by it's own auditors for 20 years, what would an independent auditor make of them? There are by the way, some pro Eu types who do "have a hard on" but only because they'd rather be ruled by Brussels than "the English" and they'd rather be independent even if the WAG reduced Wales to an agrarian backwater with no NHS, no decent schools and we all tugged our forelocks to our betters.
We vote for the representatives who work on our behalf in the EU, they then in turn vote for the commissioner and president. In your ideal world how would you have it?
If the general public voted for these jobs it would decend into a Eurovision type voting farce, where the countries would only vote for candidates from neighbouring countries and wouldn’t have a clue what candidates stood for.
Who voted for Jeremy hunt to be foreign secretary? Or Sajid Javid to be Home Secretary? Or who the head of our civil service is?
The Countdown begins. on 07:35 - Sep 8 by Batterseajack
We vote for the representatives who work on our behalf in the EU, they then in turn vote for the commissioner and president. In your ideal world how would you have it?
If the general public voted for these jobs it would decend into a Eurovision type voting farce, where the countries would only vote for candidates from neighbouring countries and wouldn’t have a clue what candidates stood for.
Who voted for Jeremy hunt to be foreign secretary? Or Sajid Javid to be Home Secretary? Or who the head of our civil service is?
The British people have never voted to be part of the Frankenstein project (eu). Only once has the British people been asked a question on eu membership and the result was “up yours”, we are leaving.
So basically if people still can’t accept this they should think about leaving the country.
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The Countdown begins. on 08:16 - Sep 8 with 2928 views
The Countdown begins. on 07:35 - Sep 8 by Batterseajack
We vote for the representatives who work on our behalf in the EU, they then in turn vote for the commissioner and president. In your ideal world how would you have it?
If the general public voted for these jobs it would decend into a Eurovision type voting farce, where the countries would only vote for candidates from neighbouring countries and wouldn’t have a clue what candidates stood for.
Who voted for Jeremy hunt to be foreign secretary? Or Sajid Javid to be Home Secretary? Or who the head of our civil service is?
Come on now, the civil service is a seperate issue, the EU has an administrative branch too.
Right, the rest of it, isn't the elction process the same situation (Eurovision type farce) because it is politicians from those countries voting for politicians? Besides which the selection process is subtley different. In the UK we know who we are voting for, we know who the leaders of the parties are and who will be Prime minister depending on who wins. In the EU the nominees are picked by the council of ministers. Yes that's right, our Prime minister has a say in who will be EU president. Then the MEP's get to say yes or no. So we have politicians choosing the leaders and that is not democracy.....democracy from the Greek Demos which means the populace as a political unit.....who in the populace of the EU chose or voted for any of the Commission or President? That's before we ask wjy we trust/trusted Blair, Cameron or May....then possibly Corbyn to help choose an EU leader when we didn't/don't trust them to run our own country. You're argument also highlights another issue, the Eurovision farce as you called it, many people across Europe are fed up of having decisions made by politicians from other countries. The nationalistic trends haven't been stopped and it's the anger at some of these decisions that is helping fuel the rise of the far right across Europe. The people are losing interest in the EU as shown by voter turnout, in 1979 61.99% turned out to vote, the turnout has been in decline ever since and in 2014 it was 42.61%. It's a long term downward trend that shows at best apathy and at worst disillusionment with the EU is growing. You can dispute the last bit but many on here questioned the result of the referendum because it was so close though it was a 72% turnout, the biggest in decades for any vote and several use the stat that only 36% actually voted leave as a reason to ignore it. At least over half the UK electorate bother to vote in a general election. There is a democratic deficit in the EU, their powers keep on increasing yet their mandate keeps on falling, in the UK just 35.6% voted at the last EU election. When so few people are bothered it's surprising so many wanted to stay, maybe they were convinved to vote remain by project fear?
The Countdown begins. on 08:16 - Sep 8 by Catullus
Come on now, the civil service is a seperate issue, the EU has an administrative branch too.
Right, the rest of it, isn't the elction process the same situation (Eurovision type farce) because it is politicians from those countries voting for politicians? Besides which the selection process is subtley different. In the UK we know who we are voting for, we know who the leaders of the parties are and who will be Prime minister depending on who wins. In the EU the nominees are picked by the council of ministers. Yes that's right, our Prime minister has a say in who will be EU president. Then the MEP's get to say yes or no. So we have politicians choosing the leaders and that is not democracy.....democracy from the Greek Demos which means the populace as a political unit.....who in the populace of the EU chose or voted for any of the Commission or President? That's before we ask wjy we trust/trusted Blair, Cameron or May....then possibly Corbyn to help choose an EU leader when we didn't/don't trust them to run our own country. You're argument also highlights another issue, the Eurovision farce as you called it, many people across Europe are fed up of having decisions made by politicians from other countries. The nationalistic trends haven't been stopped and it's the anger at some of these decisions that is helping fuel the rise of the far right across Europe. The people are losing interest in the EU as shown by voter turnout, in 1979 61.99% turned out to vote, the turnout has been in decline ever since and in 2014 it was 42.61%. It's a long term downward trend that shows at best apathy and at worst disillusionment with the EU is growing. You can dispute the last bit but many on here questioned the result of the referendum because it was so close though it was a 72% turnout, the biggest in decades for any vote and several use the stat that only 36% actually voted leave as a reason to ignore it. At least over half the UK electorate bother to vote in a general election. There is a democratic deficit in the EU, their powers keep on increasing yet their mandate keeps on falling, in the UK just 35.6% voted at the last EU election. When so few people are bothered it's surprising so many wanted to stay, maybe they were convinved to vote remain by project fear?
So what process would you have for the president and commissioner of the EU to be elected?
And the civil service is not a separate issue, the EU constantly gets criticised for its unelected bureaucrats. These are no different to our civil servants.
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The Countdown begins. on 09:16 - Sep 8 with 2904 views
The Countdown begins. on 08:41 - Sep 8 by Batterseajack
So what process would you have for the president and commissioner of the EU to be elected?
And the civil service is not a separate issue, the EU constantly gets criticised for its unelected bureaucrats. These are no different to our civil servants.
[Post edited 8 Sep 2018 8:47]
By unelected bureaucrats they mean politicians not admin staff which is what civil servants are, even if (at times) it looks like the civil service are actually in charge.
What process to elect the president and commissioner, is that a joke question? An election of course. There are plenty of MEP's so they could propose/second etc then the candidates follow the usual route in a democracy, they have a campaign, put their manifesto forward and the people vote. One person, one vote, one winner.
Do you find it interesting that in what used to be called Europes most Liberal country they are on the verge of putting a far right party into government? At least into coalition. Crime and immigration have caused a massive swing there. Rape is on the increase and since 2015 60% of convicted rapists have been foreign born with 40% having been in Sweden less than a year. There is also a rise in gangland shootings and (I remember seeing this a while back) a spate of so called synchronised arson where social media is used to plan burning dozens of cars. This is happening across Europe. Maybe just as interesting is, it's the centrist parties that are losing out, the far left party is making gains too, extremism is rising in Europe and it's the EU that's being given as the reason by these more extreme groups. Are we heading for another war maybe?
The Countdown begins. on 08:41 - Sep 8 by Batterseajack
So what process would you have for the president and commissioner of the EU to be elected?
And the civil service is not a separate issue, the EU constantly gets criticised for its unelected bureaucrats. These are no different to our civil servants.
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There’s no process that works. It’s a failure, it’s corrupt and it’s going backwards. That’s why we voted out.
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The Countdown begins. on 09:54 - Sep 8 with 2877 views
The Countdown begins. on 07:35 - Sep 8 by Batterseajack
We vote for the representatives who work on our behalf in the EU, they then in turn vote for the commissioner and president. In your ideal world how would you have it?
If the general public voted for these jobs it would decend into a Eurovision type voting farce, where the countries would only vote for candidates from neighbouring countries and wouldn’t have a clue what candidates stood for.
Who voted for Jeremy hunt to be foreign secretary? Or Sajid Javid to be Home Secretary? Or who the head of our civil service is?
Stop talking sense for God's sake.
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The Countdown begins. on 10:38 - Sep 8 with 2859 views
The Countdown begins. on 07:56 - Sep 8 by peenemunde
The British people have never voted to be part of the Frankenstein project (eu). Only once has the British people been asked a question on eu membership and the result was “up yours”, we are leaving.
So basically if people still can’t accept this they should think about leaving the country.
" So basically if people still can’t accept this they should think about leaving the country". Didn't notice that leaving meant the ending of free movement for British in EU, then?
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The Countdown begins. on 10:51 - Sep 8 with 2851 views
The Countdown begins. on 09:54 - Sep 8 by johnlangy
Stop talking sense for God's sake.
So maybe we should adopt that mechanism here then, don't bother with party leaders, we can just choose our MP and then let them say yes or no to whoever the cabinet wants, of course the cabinet would be a semi permanent fixture chosen by the last PM and in place until the next PM chooses their replacements.
The Countdown begins. on 10:48 - Sep 8 by the_oracle
" So basically if people still can’t accept this they should think about leaving the country". Didn't notice that leaving meant the ending of free movement for British in EU, then?
No but it does not stop the southern Irish living off us here fecking off back home.
And any of them that stays are total hypocrites and have no right to complain .
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And there we have it. Very easy to heckle from the back benches, but these brexiteers have no idea on what they want from Brexit and can’t agree amongst themselves. No one will be happy with the final outcome.
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The Countdown begins. on 12:02 - Sep 8 with 2821 views
The Countdown begins. on 10:48 - Sep 8 by the_oracle
" So basically if people still can’t accept this they should think about leaving the country". Didn't notice that leaving meant the ending of free movement for British in EU, then?
British citizens are free to move to an eu country as it stands. Nothing to stop them and they’ll have the right to stay in an eu country post Brexit.
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The Countdown begins. on 12:04 - Sep 8 with 2821 views
Artificial problems that arise, then all of a sudden globalist politicians magically have the answer. Globalisation means lowering living standards in this country.
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The Countdown begins. on 13:41 - Sep 8 with 2798 views
These people/posters love the EU, can't they see what it's doing? Look at Sweden, the most liberal country in Europe is being driven to the right by the EU. Tommorrow, for the first time since 1917 the social democrats may not be the biggest party and the right wing National Swedish Democrats may become part of the government. The NSD were once considered pro Nazi, fascist and white supremacists. If Sweden can be driven to this, why do people here still think the EU is so great?
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