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Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK 23:28 - Nov 10 with 1112304 viewspikeypaul



And like a typical anti democracy remoaner he decided the will of the people should be ignored the minute the democratic result was in total fecking hypocrite 😂😂😂😂😂😂

Despite it being voted in to law by the commons the spineless two faced remoaner MPs have totally abandoned any morals and decided to ignore the will of the British people.

It will be remembered and no election or referendum will ever be the same again in this country.

The one thing that will come is a massive surge in the popularity of UKIP or a similar party in the future who stand for the 52%.

Happy Days.

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Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 07:20 - Oct 1 with 1365 viewswaynekerr55

Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 06:35 - Oct 1 by WarwickHunt

Mark ‘D-Day’ Francois would probably spontaneously combust.

Make it so.


It's "Mark Gino D - Day François", mun

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Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 10:57 - Oct 1 with 1267 viewsUxbridge

Johnson now admits something only the clinically insane or in extreme denial were arguing otherwise, that No Deal will mean a border and checks in Ireland, and no amount of fictional technology will mean otherwise.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-49890199

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Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 11:22 - Oct 1 with 1252 viewsAce_Jack

Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 10:57 - Oct 1 by Uxbridge

Johnson now admits something only the clinically insane or in extreme denial were arguing otherwise, that No Deal will mean a border and checks in Ireland, and no amount of fictional technology will mean otherwise.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-49890199


But David Davis said there was technology to sort this? Bloody EU.
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Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 11:28 - Oct 1 with 1246 viewsUxbridge

Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 11:22 - Oct 1 by Ace_Jack

But David Davis said there was technology to sort this? Bloody EU.


Those who know about such things were always arguing that any such tech was "10 years away". Which, for anyone who's ever been involved in the technology sector, will know that means the equivalent of the moon on a stick.

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Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 14:34 - Oct 1 with 1138 viewsA_Fans_Dad

Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 23:46 - Sep 30 by DJack

It's the Yanks who decides whoi gets the Five Eyes info not the UK. Additionally Germany are part of SIGINT Seniors Europe, also called Fourteen Eyes.


Please stop talking crap.


How long do you think it will take the Yanks to realise what a security risk that setup will be and change it to only 4 eyes, cutting the UK and EU out all together.
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Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 17:38 - Oct 1 with 1069 viewsmajorraglan

Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 10:57 - Oct 1 by Uxbridge

Johnson now admits something only the clinically insane or in extreme denial were arguing otherwise, that No Deal will mean a border and checks in Ireland, and no amount of fictional technology will mean otherwise.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-49890199


I thought the GFA meant there shouldn’t be a border between NI and ROI. If it kicks off out there, I suspect that we can kiss any trade deal with the US goodbye because factions in both the Democratic and Republican parties have said they would block any attempts to introduce one.
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Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 17:39 - Oct 1 with 1054 viewsbluey_the_blue

Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 14:34 - Oct 1 by A_Fans_Dad

How long do you think it will take the Yanks to realise what a security risk that setup will be and change it to only 4 eyes, cutting the UK and EU out all together.


They won't, as that then means they lose UK intelligence. It's not a one way stream.
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Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 20:06 - Oct 1 with 996 viewsUxbridge

Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 17:38 - Oct 1 by majorraglan

I thought the GFA meant there shouldn’t be a border between NI and ROI. If it kicks off out there, I suspect that we can kiss any trade deal with the US goodbye because factions in both the Democratic and Republican parties have said they would block any attempts to introduce one.


Indeed. We're just ignoring that though, cos Trump said he can do it without congressional approval. A bit like Johnson saying can force through No Deal even if the law is against him.

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Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 22:13 - Oct 1 with 927 viewsKilkennyjack

Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 17:38 - Oct 1 by majorraglan

I thought the GFA meant there shouldn’t be a border between NI and ROI. If it kicks off out there, I suspect that we can kiss any trade deal with the US goodbye because factions in both the Democratic and Republican parties have said they would block any attempts to introduce one.


It does not need to kick off.
If there is a hard border anywhere on the island of Ireland, then there will not be a new trade deal with the USA. Fact. ☘️🇺🇸

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Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 01:44 - Oct 2 with 871 viewsDJack

Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 14:34 - Oct 1 by A_Fans_Dad

How long do you think it will take the Yanks to realise what a security risk that setup will be and change it to only 4 eyes, cutting the UK and EU out all together.


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Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 02:13 - Oct 2 with 850 viewsKerouac

Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 22:13 - Oct 1 by Kilkennyjack

It does not need to kick off.
If there is a hard border anywhere on the island of Ireland, then there will not be a new trade deal with the USA. Fact. ☘️🇺🇸


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Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 07:32 - Oct 2 with 809 viewsLohengrin

Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 02:13 - Oct 2 by Kerouac

Höchster punkt des morgens für sie.



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Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 11:04 - Oct 2 with 736 viewslondonlisa2001

Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 17:38 - Oct 1 by majorraglan

I thought the GFA meant there shouldn’t be a border between NI and ROI. If it kicks off out there, I suspect that we can kiss any trade deal with the US goodbye because factions in both the Democratic and Republican parties have said they would block any attempts to introduce one.


They love the idea of a border so much, they’ve seemingly decided that they’re going to have two.

You have to laugh.
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Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 13:49 - Oct 2 with 642 viewsHighjack

“Get brexit done” seems to be the new “strong and stable” and they all seem to be in competition as to who can ram it in to interviews the most.

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Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 16:37 - Oct 2 with 592 viewslondonlisa2001

Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 19:35 - Sep 13 by londonlisa2001

It’s almost as if the outcome could have been anticipated. Oh wait. It was...

It’s been so obvious that May’s deal is the only deal. It’s also been obvious for a while that the backstop tweak will be NI only (the EU’s preference from the start).

The only question will be whether Labour add either a customs union or a second referendum to the deal before backing it. One way or neutralising Farage is bring back the deal, add a referendum (don’t call an election until afterwards). The question will be deal or remain. If remain, revoke (nothing in the world Farage will be able to do) if deal, sign deal (nothing in world Farage will be able to do). I suspect he would then avoid an election until after the event.


Ok. So now we know,

The backstop ‘solution’ is NI only, as anticipated, but slightly strangely, rather than customs union, the proposal is for NU to effectively remain part of the single market, leading to a border with both Ireland and the rest of the UK. A border that will be done by technology that doesn’t exist, and away from the border. (Is it only staunch Tories that think you can remove a border by moving a border)?

Only the DUP have a veto every 4 years if Stormont sits and have been given a whole load of stuff again, so they’ve decided they’ll support (unsurprisingly). That won’t irritate the other communities in Northern Ireland at all, of course. The ERG will support since they don’t care at all about NI and they’ve decided their other concerns about May’s deal were temporary after all.

But the EU will have to agree to Arlene Foster’s merry band of bigots having a crucial role, Stormont isn’t even sitting and hasn’t for 3 years, the rest of May’s deal remains unchanged which everyone previously hated, and Ireland will just love it. As an aside, if Stormont doesn’t sit, the plan refers to ‘another way’ of gaining public support for it continuing. Eg. Presumably, a referendum...

I’m thinking it doesn’t have much chance of success...
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Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 17:09 - Oct 2 with 561 viewsLohengrin

Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 16:37 - Oct 2 by londonlisa2001

Ok. So now we know,

The backstop ‘solution’ is NI only, as anticipated, but slightly strangely, rather than customs union, the proposal is for NU to effectively remain part of the single market, leading to a border with both Ireland and the rest of the UK. A border that will be done by technology that doesn’t exist, and away from the border. (Is it only staunch Tories that think you can remove a border by moving a border)?

Only the DUP have a veto every 4 years if Stormont sits and have been given a whole load of stuff again, so they’ve decided they’ll support (unsurprisingly). That won’t irritate the other communities in Northern Ireland at all, of course. The ERG will support since they don’t care at all about NI and they’ve decided their other concerns about May’s deal were temporary after all.

But the EU will have to agree to Arlene Foster’s merry band of bigots having a crucial role, Stormont isn’t even sitting and hasn’t for 3 years, the rest of May’s deal remains unchanged which everyone previously hated, and Ireland will just love it. As an aside, if Stormont doesn’t sit, the plan refers to ‘another way’ of gaining public support for it continuing. Eg. Presumably, a referendum...

I’m thinking it doesn’t have much chance of success...


”Arlene Foster’s merry band of bigots.”

It was only last night you were posting how dangerous it is in the current climate to be deliberately insulting of your political opponents, criticising those you thought were inflaming an already febrile atmosphere.

Come along now.

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Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 17:14 - Oct 2 with 552 viewsWingstandwood



*Breaking news* from some geezer called John Rentoul and another geezer called Jon Craig!
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Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 17:14 - Oct 2 with 551 viewsAce_Jack

Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 17:09 - Oct 2 by Lohengrin

”Arlene Foster’s merry band of bigots.”

It was only last night you were posting how dangerous it is in the current climate to be deliberately insulting of your political opponents, criticising those you thought were inflaming an already febrile atmosphere.

Come along now.


They are bigots though.
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Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 17:18 - Oct 2 with 545 viewsLohengrin

Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 17:14 - Oct 2 by Ace_Jack

They are bigots though.


Ha! There we are then.

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Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 17:51 - Oct 2 with 515 viewslondonlisa2001

Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 17:09 - Oct 2 by Lohengrin

”Arlene Foster’s merry band of bigots.”

It was only last night you were posting how dangerous it is in the current climate to be deliberately insulting of your political opponents, criticising those you thought were inflaming an already febrile atmosphere.

Come along now.


Umm, I’m not being funny Loh, but I think there’s quite the difference between the PM, Home Secretary, any MP for that matter using that sort of language and a random person on a Swans forum. I haven’t suggested any normal person is inflaming anything. No posts on here would stay if we extended the careful speech to this forum
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Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 17:55 - Oct 2 with 512 viewslondonlisa2001

Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 17:14 - Oct 2 by Wingstandwood



*Breaking news* from some geezer called John Rentoul and another geezer called Jon Craig!


Rentoul is the chief political correspondent at the Independent and Jon Craig the same at Sky news.

Lots of commentators are saying they still want a Queens Speech on 14th.
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Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 19:07 - Oct 2 with 454 viewsLohengrin

Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 17:51 - Oct 2 by londonlisa2001

Umm, I’m not being funny Loh, but I think there’s quite the difference between the PM, Home Secretary, any MP for that matter using that sort of language and a random person on a Swans forum. I haven’t suggested any normal person is inflaming anything. No posts on here would stay if we extended the careful speech to this forum


Not a lot of my late night posting this past ten years would have made it beyond the censor, I wouldn’t argue with you there.

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Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 20:04 - Oct 2 with 406 viewsWarwickHunt

Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 16:37 - Oct 2 by londonlisa2001

Ok. So now we know,

The backstop ‘solution’ is NI only, as anticipated, but slightly strangely, rather than customs union, the proposal is for NU to effectively remain part of the single market, leading to a border with both Ireland and the rest of the UK. A border that will be done by technology that doesn’t exist, and away from the border. (Is it only staunch Tories that think you can remove a border by moving a border)?

Only the DUP have a veto every 4 years if Stormont sits and have been given a whole load of stuff again, so they’ve decided they’ll support (unsurprisingly). That won’t irritate the other communities in Northern Ireland at all, of course. The ERG will support since they don’t care at all about NI and they’ve decided their other concerns about May’s deal were temporary after all.

But the EU will have to agree to Arlene Foster’s merry band of bigots having a crucial role, Stormont isn’t even sitting and hasn’t for 3 years, the rest of May’s deal remains unchanged which everyone previously hated, and Ireland will just love it. As an aside, if Stormont doesn’t sit, the plan refers to ‘another way’ of gaining public support for it continuing. Eg. Presumably, a referendum...

I’m thinking it doesn’t have much chance of success...


They’ve replaced the threat of a border with ...

... two borders. 😂😂😂
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Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 20:17 - Oct 2 with 385 viewssherpajacob

Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 20:04 - Oct 2 by WarwickHunt

They’ve replaced the threat of a border with ...

... two borders. 😂😂😂


The British government's record of drawing borders on a map has probably killed more people than something else that killed a lot of people.

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Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 20:54 - Oct 2 with 341 viewsladyjack



I'm sure Martina wont accept any hard border on the island of Ireland, if I was Boris I would take note.
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