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Corona Virus 22:39 - Mar 7 with 94001 viewsSgorioFruit

Sorry for new thread,
But how bad do you lot reckon it’s going to get here in the UK?
I just been watching the news. Looking nasty in Italy.

My methods are not favoured by some but by god i speak the truth.
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Corona Virus on 18:00 - Mar 16 with 817 viewsOldjack

Avoid socializing ,but schools to remain open ,wtf !

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Corona Virus on 18:03 - Mar 16 with 809 viewsmonmouth

Corona Virus on 17:48 - Mar 16 by ladyjack

You seem to be changing your mind on the merits of the UKs response to the Coronavirus, I thought from your previous posts that you initially seemed quite positive but now you seem to be quite negative.


Totally agnostic. It is the non testing of the strategy and the reasons that I object to. Just keeping on repeating ‘the science’. I have no idea if the strategy is right or wrong, but it’s increasingly looking to me like it is not really a planned strategy at all sounding like they have no confidence in what they have previously said Or the consequences of it. In which case that’s a different kettle of bananas.

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Corona Virus on 18:26 - Mar 16 with 739 viewslondonlisa2001

Corona Virus on 16:56 - Mar 16 by Professor

Not as yet-but there is for other coronaviruses


There are reports coming out that, as hoped, this virus is being affected by sunlight.
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Corona Virus on 18:41 - Mar 16 with 696 viewshobo

Corona Virus on 18:26 - Mar 16 by londonlisa2001

There are reports coming out that, as hoped, this virus is being affected by sunlight.


Where is that being reported?

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Corona Virus on 18:48 - Mar 16 with 679 viewslondonlisa2001

Corona Virus on 18:41 - Mar 16 by hobo

Where is that being reported?


Research done by Hong Kong University.

I can’t remember where I read it. They said that it was an early report and not certain, but they had grown the virus in the lab and had subjected it to different temperatures / UV etc and had found it was weakened.

As I read it, it’s very early days though for them to know for sure, but there are a lot of tests being done to see if that conclusion is right or not.
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Corona Virus on 18:55 - Mar 16 with 653 viewsladyjack

Corona Virus on 18:48 - Mar 16 by londonlisa2001

Research done by Hong Kong University.

I can’t remember where I read it. They said that it was an early report and not certain, but they had grown the virus in the lab and had subjected it to different temperatures / UV etc and had found it was weakened.

As I read it, it’s very early days though for them to know for sure, but there are a lot of tests being done to see if that conclusion is right or not.


You can't remember, that's a pity it would have been interesting to see that.
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Corona Virus on 19:05 - Mar 16 with 617 viewsDarran

https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2020/mar/11/facebook-posts/sun-exposure-do

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Corona Virus on 19:08 - Mar 16 with 613 viewslondonlisa2001

Corona Virus on 19:05 - Mar 16 by Darran

https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2020/mar/11/facebook-posts/sun-exposure-do


It’s changing rapidly though.

That’s in response to an assumption. There are studies being done all the time at the moment.
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Corona Virus on 19:09 - Mar 16 with 609 viewsA_Fans_Dad

Corona Virus on 18:48 - Mar 16 by londonlisa2001

Research done by Hong Kong University.

I can’t remember where I read it. They said that it was an early report and not certain, but they had grown the virus in the lab and had subjected it to different temperatures / UV etc and had found it was weakened.

As I read it, it’s very early days though for them to know for sure, but there are a lot of tests being done to see if that conclusion is right or not.


Based on other coronavirus & Flu tests they like temperatures below 30C with low humidity.
Which doesn't help a lot of the northern hemisphere.
There doesn't appear to be any correlation for COV 19 yet.
https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/politics-and-nation/no-correlation-bet

Testing continues.
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Corona Virus on 19:11 - Mar 16 with 598 viewslondonlisa2001

Corona Virus on 18:55 - Mar 16 by ladyjack

You can't remember, that's a pity it would have been interesting to see that.


https://www.msn.com/en-us/weather/other/higher-temperatures-affect-survival-of-n

There you go - a link to the study. This isn’t where I saw it, but I’ve used what s known as a search engine.

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Corona Virus on 19:24 - Mar 16 with 546 viewsA_Fans_Dad

Corona Virus on 19:11 - Mar 16 by londonlisa2001

https://www.msn.com/en-us/weather/other/higher-temperatures-affect-survival-of-n

There you go - a link to the study. This isn’t where I saw it, but I’ve used what s known as a search engine.

2 days old.


It is not just temperature that affects the virus and how long it lives etc it is also humidity. It does not appear to like very hot humid places.
It dies on surfaces quicker.
The actual study is here
https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/politics-and-nation/no-correlation-bet
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Corona Virus on 19:26 - Mar 16 with 542 viewsladyjack

What about sunlight ?
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Corona Virus on 19:31 - Mar 16 with 519 viewslondonlisa2001

Corona Virus on 19:24 - Mar 16 by A_Fans_Dad

It is not just temperature that affects the virus and how long it lives etc it is also humidity. It does not appear to like very hot humid places.
It dies on surfaces quicker.
The actual study is here
https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/politics-and-nation/no-correlation-bet


That’s a different study I saw also.

All this stuff is changing rapidly.

If you look at the worldometers site, which gives the most comprehensive real time stats, the death / critical cases rates in warmer / sunnier countries seems (at the moment at least) to be noticeably lower than you’d expect from total cases. With the caveat that it depend on accuracy of info, there may be a link.
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Corona Virus on 19:35 - Mar 16 with 499 viewsJacketJack

Corona Virus on 19:31 - Mar 16 by londonlisa2001

That’s a different study I saw also.

All this stuff is changing rapidly.

If you look at the worldometers site, which gives the most comprehensive real time stats, the death / critical cases rates in warmer / sunnier countries seems (at the moment at least) to be noticeably lower than you’d expect from total cases. With the caveat that it depend on accuracy of info, there may be a link.
[Post edited 16 Mar 19:32]


It's 80F and humid in Florida. It's spreading like fire
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Corona Virus on 19:40 - Mar 16 with 479 viewsPozuelosSideys

Im struggling with some of the modelled numbers.

So the original scenario 1 predicted 260,000 deaths based on isolation, quarantine and socia distancing, with more aggressive measures cutting the death rate in half. We have a population of C.60m.

China has a population of 1.4 billion yet recorded around 3,200 deaths and they think they are over the worst. Im assuming our "more aggressive measures" are similar to what China put in place.

Im finding it hard to believe that we have 4% of their population but a potential 8000% actual mortality rate?
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Corona Virus on 19:45 - Mar 16 with 460 viewslondonlisa2001

Corona Virus on 19:35 - Mar 16 by JacketJack

It's 80F and humid in Florida. It's spreading like fire


The study seemed to suggest it’s less the cases and more severity of cases that may be affected?

I’ve no idea how many cases there are that are critical in Florida or deaths? It has quite a concentration of old people so that may effect it.

Anyway, I’m not attempting to argue whether the study is right or not - i just said I’d read about it and the numbers in some parts of the world seem to be lower than one would expect if all was equal.
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Corona Virus on 19:47 - Mar 16 with 452 viewsladyjack

Corona Virus on 19:40 - Mar 16 by PozuelosSideys

Im struggling with some of the modelled numbers.

So the original scenario 1 predicted 260,000 deaths based on isolation, quarantine and socia distancing, with more aggressive measures cutting the death rate in half. We have a population of C.60m.

China has a population of 1.4 billion yet recorded around 3,200 deaths and they think they are over the worst. Im assuming our "more aggressive measures" are similar to what China put in place.

Im finding it hard to believe that we have 4% of their population but a potential 8000% actual mortality rate?
[Post edited 16 Mar 19:44]


I don't think our more aggressive measurements are anywhere near to what China did.
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Corona Virus on 19:49 - Mar 16 with 446 viewsPozuelosSideys

Corona Virus on 19:47 - Mar 16 by ladyjack

I don't think our more aggressive measurements are anywhere near to what China did.


Im not sure i trust your ability to think tbh given the nonsense youve posted on this thread.

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Corona Virus on 19:49 - Mar 16 with 444 viewsA_Fans_Dad

Corona Virus on 19:31 - Mar 16 by londonlisa2001

That’s a different study I saw also.

All this stuff is changing rapidly.

If you look at the worldometers site, which gives the most comprehensive real time stats, the death / critical cases rates in warmer / sunnier countries seems (at the moment at least) to be noticeably lower than you’d expect from total cases. With the caveat that it depend on accuracy of info, there may be a link.
[Post edited 16 Mar 19:32]


Nowhere near as much as how those countries have reacted, most of them suffered badly with SARS and have implemented tests, tracking, masks, washing and social distancing.
The masks don't just protect the healthy by reducing the visuses that get to them, it also reduces the spread of the virus from the sick person when they cough or sneeze containing them within the mask.
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Corona Virus on 19:50 - Mar 16 with 437 viewslondonlisa2001

Corona Virus on 19:40 - Mar 16 by PozuelosSideys

Im struggling with some of the modelled numbers.

So the original scenario 1 predicted 260,000 deaths based on isolation, quarantine and socia distancing, with more aggressive measures cutting the death rate in half. We have a population of C.60m.

China has a population of 1.4 billion yet recorded around 3,200 deaths and they think they are over the worst. Im assuming our "more aggressive measures" are similar to what China put in place.

Im finding it hard to believe that we have 4% of their population but a potential 8000% actual mortality rate?
[Post edited 16 Mar 19:44]


Because the numbers you are using for the UK are not time limited whereas the numbers you are using for China are limited to the first couple of months.

Unless they keep people in lockdown forever, at some point they’ll come out and the virus will then infect more.
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Corona Virus on 19:52 - Mar 16 with 433 viewsladyjack

Corona Virus on 19:49 - Mar 16 by PozuelosSideys

Im not sure i trust your ability to think tbh given the nonsense youve posted on this thread.


You don't know what China did by the sound of it otherwise you would not try and compare apples and oranges.
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Corona Virus on 19:55 - Mar 16 with 418 viewsladyjack

Corona Virus on 19:50 - Mar 16 by londonlisa2001

Because the numbers you are using for the UK are not time limited whereas the numbers you are using for China are limited to the first couple of months.

Unless they keep people in lockdown forever, at some point they’ll come out and the virus will then infect more.


Keep who in lockdown ?
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Corona Virus on 20:00 - Mar 16 with 400 viewsPozuelosSideys

Corona Virus on 19:50 - Mar 16 by londonlisa2001

Because the numbers you are using for the UK are not time limited whereas the numbers you are using for China are limited to the first couple of months.

Unless they keep people in lockdown forever, at some point they’ll come out and the virus will then infect more.


Possibly, but they are wildly different, no? Fag packet stuff obviously, but population density, living standards etc in that part of China in particular are considerably different and likely to swing in UKs "favour". Geared up, China would be expecting 6million deaths. Finding that hard to believe.

Agree about the removal of lockdown though. What are they going to do, keep people in there forever or are they playing a waiting game hoping for some sort of vaccine. Brave move tbh.

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Corona Virus on 20:08 - Mar 16 with 360 viewsladyjack

Corona Virus on 20:00 - Mar 16 by PozuelosSideys

Possibly, but they are wildly different, no? Fag packet stuff obviously, but population density, living standards etc in that part of China in particular are considerably different and likely to swing in UKs "favour". Geared up, China would be expecting 6million deaths. Finding that hard to believe.

Agree about the removal of lockdown though. What are they going to do, keep people in there forever or are they playing a waiting game hoping for some sort of vaccine. Brave move tbh.


Keep who in forever ?
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Corona Virus on 20:17 - Mar 16 with 331 viewsProfessor

Corona Virus on 19:35 - Mar 16 by JacketJack

It's 80F and humid in Florida. It's spreading like fire


Generally both viruses and bacteria like warm and humid-tropical weather. Dry and sunny is harder. UV tends to lead to lethal mutations in genomes (not unlike cancer)
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