| Corona Virus 22:39 - Mar 7 with 437662 views | SgorioFruit |
Sorry for new thread,
But how bad do you lot reckon it’s going to get here in the UK?
I just been watching the news. Looking nasty in Italy. |  |
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| Corona Virus on 20:18 - Mar 16 with 1987 views | ladyjack |
| Corona Virus on 20:17 - Mar 16 by Professor |
Generally both viruses and bacteria like warm and humid-tropical weather. Dry and sunny is harder. UV tends to lead to lethal mutations in genomes (not unlike cancer) |
Sunlight ? |  | | |
| Corona Virus on 20:21 - Mar 16 with 1976 views | ladyjack |
I wonder why the UK doesn't follow what China did when they apparently turned things around, I think it's money and resources. | | | |
| Corona Virus on 20:35 - Mar 16 with 1958 views | Catullus |
| Corona Virus on 20:08 - Mar 16 by ladyjack |
Keep who in forever ? |
Oh come on, seriously? |  |
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| Corona Virus on 20:38 - Mar 16 with 1954 views | Professor |
| Corona Virus on 20:18 - Mar 16 by ladyjack |
Sunlight ? |
yes. | | | |
| Corona Virus on 20:44 - Mar 16 with 1929 views | Catullus |
I watched a news report (C4) and they were saying Venice has noticed one positive effect of this virus. The water is cleaner because there's no motor boats, cruise liners, tourists polluting the place.
Our roads have been noticeably quieter, the aircraft are grounded, this virus is bad for humans but it's giving the planet a break. | |
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| Corona Virus on 20:45 - Mar 16 with 1924 views | LeonWasGod |
| Corona Virus on 19:40 - Mar 16 by PozuelosSideys |
Im struggling with some of the modelled numbers.
So the original scenario 1 predicted 260,000 deaths based on isolation, quarantine and socia distancing, with more aggressive measures cutting the death rate in half. We have a population of C.60m.
China has a population of 1.4 billion yet recorded around 3,200 deaths and they think they are over the worst. Im assuming our "more aggressive measures" are similar to what China put in place.
Im finding it hard to believe that we have 4% of their population but a potential 8000% actual mortality rate? [Post edited 16 Mar 2020 19:44]
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You’re comparing deaths to population. The mortality rate is calculated as deaths to infected, not to population. China’s outbreak was focused in one region so didn’t effect the whole population (another reason why they could lock down easily, as other regions in the country could still support). |  | | |
| Corona Virus on 20:55 - Mar 16 with 1900 views | JACKMANANDBOY |
| Corona Virus on 20:44 - Mar 16 by Catullus |
I watched a news report (C4) and they were saying Venice has noticed one positive effect of this virus. The water is cleaner because there's no motor boats, cruise liners, tourists polluting the place.
Our roads have been noticeably quieter, the aircraft are grounded, this virus is bad for humans but it's giving the planet a break. |
Unfortunately, I think there will be a huge economic push after this passes through that will more than compensate, just my feeling. |  |
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| Corona Virus on 20:59 - Mar 16 with 1895 views | PozuelosSideys |
| Corona Virus on 20:45 - Mar 16 by LeonWasGod |
You’re comparing deaths to population. The mortality rate is calculated as deaths to infected, not to population. China’s outbreak was focused in one region so didn’t effect the whole population (another reason why they could lock down easily, as other regions in the country could still support). |
Im comparing the ratio of basic mortality against population count based on the UK's projected potential scenario of 260,000 deaths based on a link Jasper put up:
Its on ere somewhere:
The spread of this is all over China as per this link. It was mainly restricted to Wuhan in the same way you can argue its focused on London in the UK at the moment of lockdown. China has huge swathes of non population geography too unlike the UK, but huuuuuge cities all over the place.
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/world/coronavirus-maps.html#asia
Anyway, not really disagreeing as there are a million and one holes you could pick in the basic numbers, but i think the ratio outut of 6m deaths based on the UK scenario will turn out wildly inaccurate. Time will tell. |  |
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| Corona Virus on 21:08 - Mar 16 with 1885 views | londonlisa2001 |
| Corona Virus on 20:59 - Mar 16 by PozuelosSideys |
Im comparing the ratio of basic mortality against population count based on the UK's projected potential scenario of 260,000 deaths based on a link Jasper put up:
Its on ere somewhere:
The spread of this is all over China as per this link. It was mainly restricted to Wuhan in the same way you can argue its focused on London in the UK at the moment of lockdown. China has huge swathes of non population geography too unlike the UK, but huuuuuge cities all over the place.
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/world/coronavirus-maps.html#asia
Anyway, not really disagreeing as there are a million and one holes you could pick in the basic numbers, but i think the ratio outut of 6m deaths based on the UK scenario will turn out wildly inaccurate. Time will tell. |
Let’s all hope that the deaths are far, far lower than they’re planning for. And we look back with bemusement.
Plan for the worst, hope for the best.
We all have to hope this just disappears as quickly as it arrived. | | | |
| Corona Virus on 21:08 - Mar 16 with 1881 views | Neath_Jack |
Grand National cancelled. |  |
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| Corona Virus on 21:49 - Mar 16 with 1828 views | Professor |
| Corona Virus on 21:08 - Mar 16 by Neath_Jack |
Grand National cancelled. |
Good news for horses then | | | |
| Corona Virus on 21:55 - Mar 16 with 1814 views | majorraglan |
Was told today by a specialist cleaning contractor (who’s integrity I have no reason to doubt) that Covid19 can survive on plastic and metal surfaces for up to 5 days, however temperatures above 20 degrees will kill it.
Use decent cleaning products and keep your house warm. | | | |
| Corona Virus on 22:27 - Mar 16 with 1757 views | ploppy |
| Corona Virus on 21:55 - Mar 16 by majorraglan |
Was told today by a specialist cleaning contractor (who’s integrity I have no reason to doubt) that Covid19 can survive on plastic and metal surfaces for up to 5 days, however temperatures above 20 degrees will kill it.
Use decent cleaning products and keep your house warm. |
Or .... don't bring the virus into the house, and leave your heating where it is. | | | |
| Corona Virus on 22:33 - Mar 16 with 1739 views | Professor |
| Corona Virus on 21:55 - Mar 16 by majorraglan |
Was told today by a specialist cleaning contractor (who’s integrity I have no reason to doubt) that Covid19 can survive on plastic and metal surfaces for up to 5 days, however temperatures above 20 degrees will kill it.
Use decent cleaning products and keep your house warm. |
That would be remarkable. 12 hours seems likely (and that is along time for an RNA virus). Some larger DNA viruses can hang around for that length of time | | | |
| Corona Virus on 23:32 - Mar 16 with 1665 views | ladyjack |
| Corona Virus on 20:35 - Mar 16 by Catullus |
Oh come on, seriously? |
Infected people or uninfected people or both ? | | | |
| Corona Virus on 23:54 - Mar 16 with 1631 views | ladyjack |
Why don't we do what China did and isolate people with the virus ?, they tested them, isolated and treated them, why can't we do that ???
Don't tell me we ain't got the money, facilities and resources, oh well. | | | |
| Corona Virus on 07:26 - Mar 17 with 1524 views | Kilkennyjack |
See its good to challenge the government line when it was bleedin obvious they had got it very wrong. |  |
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| Corona Virus on 07:29 - Mar 17 with 1515 views | MrSwerve |
| Corona Virus on 21:08 - Mar 16 by Neath_Jack |
Grand National cancelled. |
What were the odds of that?
(Sorry) |  |
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| Corona Virus on 07:35 - Mar 17 with 1499 views | ladyjack |
| Corona Virus on 07:26 - Mar 17 by Kilkennyjack |
See its good to challenge the government line when it was bleedin obvious they had got it very wrong. |
Boris is one hell of a u-turner, I've even heard people talking about corporate manslaughter. | | | |
| Corona Virus on 07:37 - Mar 17 with 1491 views | Highjack |
| Corona Virus on 07:35 - Mar 17 by ladyjack |
Boris is one hell of a u-turner, I've even heard people talking about corporate manslaughter. |
Corporate manslaughter? You are nucking futs. |  |
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| Corona Virus on 07:39 - Mar 17 with 1485 views | ladyjack |
| Corona Virus on 07:37 - Mar 17 by Highjack |
Corporate manslaughter? You are nucking futs. |
Did i say I was saying that. | | | |
| Corona Virus on 07:50 - Mar 17 with 1460 views | ladyjack |
People are talking about corporate manslaughter. | | | |
| Corona Virus on 07:54 - Mar 17 with 1450 views | Highjack |
| Corona Virus on 07:50 - Mar 17 by ladyjack |
People are talking about corporate manslaughter. |
Mad people are talking about corporate manslaughter. | |
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