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Should there be a Christianreligious element/ worship in 2020 school assemblies? 20:29 - Apr 30 with 8345 viewsBrynCartwright

Should there be a Christianreligious element/ worship in 2020 school assemblies?


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Should there be a Christianreligious element/ worship in 2020 school assemblies? on 09:22 - May 1 with 1256 viewsLohengrin

Should there be a Christianreligious element/ worship in 2020 school assemblies? on 08:44 - May 1 by WarwickHunt

Now THAT’S sacrilege!

I’m sending Salvo round to have a word...


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Should there be a Christianreligious element/ worship in 2020 school assemblies? on 09:25 - May 1 with 1249 viewsLohengrin

Should there be a Christianreligious element/ worship in 2020 school assemblies? on 09:14 - May 1 by Dr_Winston

Morality based on the fear of an eternity of hellfire (or listening to C&W on repeat) for non-compliance is no morality at all.


The promise of being able to see Hank Garland play live every night in the great beyond is a treasure beyond measure.

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Should there be a Christianreligious element/ worship in 2020 school assemblies? on 09:26 - May 1 with 1248 viewsNeath_Jack

Should there be a Christianreligious element/ worship in 2020 school assemblies? on 09:04 - May 1 by Lohengrin

So you want children taught the primacy of money over morality?

We’ve heard that drum banged before, haven’t we?



Yes, absolutely without question.

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Should there be a Christianreligious element/ worship in 2020 school assemblies? on 09:31 - May 1 with 1241 viewsLohengrin

Should there be a Christianreligious element/ worship in 2020 school assemblies? on 09:26 - May 1 by Neath_Jack

Yes, absolutely without question.


Then you’re wrong.

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Should there be a Christianreligious element/ worship in 2020 school assemblies? on 09:50 - May 1 with 1218 viewsNeath_Jack

Should there be a Christianreligious element/ worship in 2020 school assemblies? on 09:31 - May 1 by Lohengrin

Then you’re wrong.


Prove it.

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Should there be a Christianreligious element/ worship in 2020 school assemblies? on 10:33 - May 1 with 1194 viewsGwyn737

Whether you have faith or not, you shouldn't dismiss that some Bible stories are excellent vehicles for teaching morality and citizenship. Also, and this is important, young children love listening to them!

If you've had a week where there's been some unkindness on the playground, having an assembly based on The Good Samaritan is a great way of looking at kindness to all, not just your friends.

The story of Jonah is fantastic at looking at not running away from your problems. These are just a couple of examples Primary aged children love.

I'm not for one minute suggesting any kind of indoctrination or forced compliance, but as a atheist working in a church school, I can see the value of the Bible as a resource in setting the ethos of the setting. But that's what it is - a resource. It needs to be picked from and supplemented with other material to produce rounded kids.
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Should there be a Christianreligious element/ worship in 2020 school assemblies? on 10:44 - May 1 with 1185 viewsLohengrin

Should there be a Christianreligious element/ worship in 2020 school assemblies? on 09:50 - May 1 by Neath_Jack

Prove it.


Your plutomaniacal take on the Parable of the Good Samaritan would hold a certain grim fascination mind, where instead of stopping to help the stricken traveller our man kicks him when he’s down and steals the little he has left.

The teacher, let’s call him Mr Lawson, can then stand in front of the class and declaim “you see children what matters is the content of your wallet not your character.”

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Should there be a Christianreligious element/ worship in 2020 school assemblies? on 10:45 - May 1 with 1181 viewsairedale

Should there be a Christianreligious element/ worship in 2020 school assemblies? on 08:39 - May 1 by KGriz16

Why isn't there a simple 'no' response to this? I don't understand why everyone takes every swipe at religion they can, most religious people don't force their views on you or force you to believe the same as them. I believe, but I don't mock those who do not. If someone chooses to believe different to you, then move on..


So you don’t think that there should be a Christian religious element/worship in 2020 school assemblies then?
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Should there be a Christianreligious element/ worship in 2020 school assemblies? on 10:46 - May 1 with 1180 viewsNeath_Jack

Should there be a Christianreligious element/ worship in 2020 school assemblies? on 10:44 - May 1 by Lohengrin

Your plutomaniacal take on the Parable of the Good Samaritan would hold a certain grim fascination mind, where instead of stopping to help the stricken traveller our man kicks him when he’s down and steals the little he has left.

The teacher, let’s call him Mr Lawson, can then stand in front of the class and declaim “you see children what matters is the content of your wallet not your character.”


That proves nothing.

You can look in any fiction piece of work and pick out something like that.

Have another go.

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Should there be a Christianreligious element/ worship in 2020 school assemblies? on 10:47 - May 1 with 1177 viewsNeath_Jack

Should there be a Christianreligious element/ worship in 2020 school assemblies? on 10:33 - May 1 by Gwyn737

Whether you have faith or not, you shouldn't dismiss that some Bible stories are excellent vehicles for teaching morality and citizenship. Also, and this is important, young children love listening to them!

If you've had a week where there's been some unkindness on the playground, having an assembly based on The Good Samaritan is a great way of looking at kindness to all, not just your friends.

The story of Jonah is fantastic at looking at not running away from your problems. These are just a couple of examples Primary aged children love.

I'm not for one minute suggesting any kind of indoctrination or forced compliance, but as a atheist working in a church school, I can see the value of the Bible as a resource in setting the ethos of the setting. But that's what it is - a resource. It needs to be picked from and supplemented with other material to produce rounded kids.


Let's make Judaism or Islam or even Scientology , our main guiding influence instead shall we?

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Should there be a Christianreligious element/ worship in 2020 school assemblies? on 10:59 - May 1 with 1168 viewsCatullus

Should there be a Christianreligious element/ worship in 2020 school assemblies? on 10:46 - May 1 by Neath_Jack

That proves nothing.

You can look in any fiction piece of work and pick out something like that.

Have another go.


The bible isn't presented as fiction though. Saying that, I once met a vicar who said you couldn't take the bible literally because it had been rewritten so many times...does that show a lack of faith that his God was guiding the authors hand?

We aren't religious, we allowed our son to go to Sunday school with his friends until the day he came back saying he'd been told that anybody who didn't go to church was a bad person. That's not teaching morality, that's teaching fear, fear as a tool to make people obey.

You don't need the bible to teach morality, just look at all the good deeds done around us every day right now and many of those 'good Samaritans' won't be church goers.

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Should there be a Christianreligious element/ worship in 2020 school assemblies? on 11:33 - May 1 with 1154 viewsWarwickHunt

Should there be a Christianreligious element/ worship in 2020 school assemblies? on 10:47 - May 1 by Neath_Jack

Let's make Judaism or Islam or even Scientology , our main guiding influence instead shall we?


Pastafarianism.

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Should there be a Christianreligious element/ worship in 2020 school assemblies? on 11:40 - May 1 with 1149 viewsGreatBritton

Should there be a Christianreligious element/ worship in 2020 school assemblies? on 20:49 - Apr 30 by Lohengrin

Read it, Bryn. The language is exquisite.


Yes, the language, and also the moral values on the new testament, but the nonsense about putting up with imposed cruelties from the privileged in society in return for a heavenly afterlife, Jesus!
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Should there be a Christianreligious element/ worship in 2020 school assemblies? on 11:41 - May 1 with 1148 viewsDr_Winston

Should there be a Christianreligious element/ worship in 2020 school assemblies? on 11:33 - May 1 by WarwickHunt

Pastafarianism.

https://www.spaghettimonster.o


R'amen.

Pain or damage don't end the world. Or despair, or f*cking beatings. The world ends when you're dead. Until then, you got more punishment in store. Stand it like a man... and give some back.

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Should there be a Christianreligious element/ worship in 2020 school assemblies? on 11:44 - May 1 with 1142 viewsSwanjaxs

Should there be a Christianreligious element/ worship in 2020 school assemblies? on 10:45 - May 1 by airedale

So you don’t think that there should be a Christian religious element/worship in 2020 school assemblies then?


Absolutely not.

And RE lessons should only be consensual not forced

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Should there be a Christianreligious element/ worship in 2020 school assemblies? on 11:46 - May 1 with 1138 viewsGreatBritton

Should there be a Christianreligious element/ worship in 2020 school assemblies? on 04:33 - May 1 by karnataka

Do schools even need assemblies? What purpose do they serve?


In my experience they serve an important purpose - to numb and stultify young minds so that they're too etiolated to question the nonsense spouted by a great number of unthinking, unreflective teachers.
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Should there be a Christianreligious element/ worship in 2020 school assemblies? on 11:52 - May 1 with 1135 viewsGreatBritton

Should there be a Christianreligious element/ worship in 2020 school assemblies? on 08:36 - May 1 by WarwickHunt

Yeah - it’s just a book though.

If you want exquisite language, buy a book by Henry James or Herman Melville.

PS Or Michael Foot.
[Post edited 1 May 2020 8:46]


I'd agree about Henry James, though most people would find it pretty heavy going these days. Melville only managed to sell just over 3000 copies of Moby Dick in his lifetime and the book shows signs of the intense rush he was in to get it done. Nevertheless it's n astonishing work. People should also read The Confidence Man - much lighter, very funny and tack sharp.
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Should there be a Christianreligious element/ worship in 2020 school assemblies? on 11:57 - May 1 with 1123 viewsWarwickHunt

Should there be a Christianreligious element/ worship in 2020 school assemblies? on 11:46 - May 1 by GreatBritton

In my experience they serve an important purpose - to numb and stultify young minds so that they're too etiolated to question the nonsense spouted by a great number of unthinking, unreflective teachers.


I'd like to give you an extra uparrow for etiolated.
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Should there be a Christianreligious element/ worship in 2020 school assemblies? on 11:58 - May 1 with 1121 viewsBarrySwan

Criticism of the good lord allowing his flock to be ravaged by the Coronavirus has been markedly absent from the clergy who are normally most effuse in their praise of his achievements.

Of course the clergy do have a marked financial interest in persuading others to carry on believing in the old 'You can't see him but he's all around us" convenient fund raising nonsense.
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Should there be a Christianreligious element/ worship in 2020 school assemblies? on 12:30 - May 1 with 1099 viewsLohengrin

Should there be a Christianreligious element/ worship in 2020 school assemblies? on 11:52 - May 1 by GreatBritton

I'd agree about Henry James, though most people would find it pretty heavy going these days. Melville only managed to sell just over 3000 copies of Moby Dick in his lifetime and the book shows signs of the intense rush he was in to get it done. Nevertheless it's n astonishing work. People should also read The Confidence Man - much lighter, very funny and tack sharp.


I’ve got a backpack under the stairs I take up the mountain with the hounds. Alongside my trusty Kelly Kettle there’s an old copy of Juvenal’s Satires. I like to sit up there with a brew and read where it’s nice and quiet.

If it’s language deployed with genuine artistry you enjoy then Juvenal is a great way to while away the hours.

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Should there be a Christianreligious element/ worship in 2020 school assemblies? on 15:31 - May 1 with 1044 viewsOldjack

Should there be a Christianreligious element/ worship in 2020 school assemblies? on 21:01 - Apr 30 by Lohengrin

My God is God. Who’s yours?


He's bigger than yours so be very careful where you tread ,heathen

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Should there be a Christianreligious element/ worship in 2020 school assemblies? on 16:06 - May 1 with 1033 viewsHumpty

Should there be a Christianreligious element/ worship in 2020 school assemblies? on 10:33 - May 1 by Gwyn737

Whether you have faith or not, you shouldn't dismiss that some Bible stories are excellent vehicles for teaching morality and citizenship. Also, and this is important, young children love listening to them!

If you've had a week where there's been some unkindness on the playground, having an assembly based on The Good Samaritan is a great way of looking at kindness to all, not just your friends.

The story of Jonah is fantastic at looking at not running away from your problems. These are just a couple of examples Primary aged children love.

I'm not for one minute suggesting any kind of indoctrination or forced compliance, but as a atheist working in a church school, I can see the value of the Bible as a resource in setting the ethos of the setting. But that's what it is - a resource. It needs to be picked from and supplemented with other material to produce rounded kids.


True but there are also many stories in the Bible that you certainly wouldn't want your children to take on board.
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Should there be a Christianreligious element/ worship in 2020 school assemblies? on 16:19 - May 1 with 1025 viewsOldjack

What I can't fathom is, why so many well educated people still believe in fairy stories , child brain washing at it's finest can be the only explanation

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Should there be a Christianreligious element/ worship in 2020 school assemblies? on 17:05 - May 1 with 1013 viewscentrestandswan

Should there be a Christianreligious element/ worship in 2020 school assemblies? on 10:44 - May 1 by Lohengrin

Your plutomaniacal take on the Parable of the Good Samaritan would hold a certain grim fascination mind, where instead of stopping to help the stricken traveller our man kicks him when he’s down and steals the little he has left.

The teacher, let’s call him Mr Lawson, can then stand in front of the class and declaim “you see children what matters is the content of your wallet not your character.”


Jesus replies with a story:

Jesus answered, "A certain man was going down from Jerusalem to Jericho, and he fell among robbers, who both stripped him and beat him, and departed, leaving him half dead. By chance a certain priest was going down that way. When he saw him, he passed by on the other side. In the same way a Levite also, when he came to the place, and saw him, passed by on the other side. But a certain Samaritan, as he travelled, came where he was. When he saw him, he was moved with compassion, came to him, and bound up his wounds, pouring on oil and wine. He set him on his own animal, and brought him to an inn, and took care of him. On the next day, when he departed, he took out two denarii, gave them to the host, and said to him, 'Take care of him. Whatever you spend beyond that, I will repay you when I return.' Now which of these three do you think seemed to be a neighbor to him who fell among the robbers?"

He said, "He who showed mercy on him."

Then Jesus said to him, "Go and do likewise."

– Luke 10:30—37, World English Bible

No mention of " kicking when he's down."

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Should there be a Christianreligious element/ worship in 2020 school assemblies? on 17:19 - May 1 with 1005 viewsGwyn737

Should there be a Christianreligious element/ worship in 2020 school assemblies? on 16:06 - May 1 by Humpty

True but there are also many stories in the Bible that you certainly wouldn't want your children to take on board.


Agreed.

As I said, you’ve got to pick what fits 👍
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