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Kamala Harris Vs Donald Trump on 09:10 - Aug 27 by Dr_Parnassus
Trump supporter defends himself against being beaten by armed mob, yes. Pictures of the incident below:-
There is a video too which shows he was being chased by 8-10 of the mob prior to being attacked by them.
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Wrong again. From a "loony left source"... the Daily Mail
"Now a new earlier clip appears to shed light on how the ordeal unfolded after a first victim was shot in the head outside a nearby auto garage. That man, now named as father-of-one Rosenbaum, is pictured on the ground while the gunman stands nearby.
The video show the gunman running away in the moments after the gunshots rang out. He could be heard saying: 'I've just killed somebody.' It is then the second and third shootings, seen in the initial video shared widely Wednesday, are thought to have happened after protesters chased the gunman. "
Kamala Harris Vs Donald Trump on 02:51 - Aug 28 by DJack
Wrong again. From a "loony left source"... the Daily Mail
"Now a new earlier clip appears to shed light on how the ordeal unfolded after a first victim was shot in the head outside a nearby auto garage. That man, now named as father-of-one Rosenbaum, is pictured on the ground while the gunman stands nearby.
The video show the gunman running away in the moments after the gunshots rang out. He could be heard saying: 'I've just killed somebody.' It is then the second and third shootings, seen in the initial video shared widely Wednesday, are thought to have happened after protesters chased the gunman. "
The videos are all online from all angles. The New York Times, the most anti Trump rag in America has a timeline and supporting videos of what happened in action by action detail... they still show it’s clearly self defence.
Do some research and then come back to me. You are about a day behind.
Swansea Independent Poster of the Year 2021 and 2022.
First incident. He is being chased, an un-names gunman shoots the first gunshot (apparently in the air unknown to the kid) and someone lunges towards the kid, he shoots him.
Second incident. They continue to chase him armed with guns. As he is running he falls to the ground, he is attacked with a wooden slate board as a man smashes him over the head with it, he fires one shot which hits the attacker in the chest.
A third attacker approaches with a handgun and points it at the kids head, he defends himself by shooting the wannabe executioner in the arm, who then runs off. After his release from hospital he confirms he was going to shoot him in the head.
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Kamala Harris Vs Donald Trump on 23:43 - Aug 27 by Dr_Parnassus
What did you disagree with that Candace said about this then?
Or do you like smearing someone’s name without having to address what they actually say?
That’s a well trodden but tired leftist tactic.
Why? Because the right never do it? It's a political tactic not just left or right.
The second amendment is a huge problem, it was ratified in 1791 when people lived in lawless times across America and the militia were a large part of Washingtons Continental Army. Times have changed though and in a society properly policed there should be no need for an individual to bear arms. Rittenhouse is a fine example of what happens, as if we needed more proof. He took his automatic rifle out, ostensibly to protect property, he ended up arguing (or whtever you want to call it) with demonstrators (others will call them rioters, who is right?) and is now charged with murder. All the shootings every year, kids being massacred and the police, when responding to a call tending towards extreme caution because anybody could be carrying a gun. It's utter madness but it seems that far too many Americans can't see it.
Kamala Harris Vs Donald Trump on 10:25 - Aug 28 by Catullus
Why? Because the right never do it? It's a political tactic not just left or right.
The second amendment is a huge problem, it was ratified in 1791 when people lived in lawless times across America and the militia were a large part of Washingtons Continental Army. Times have changed though and in a society properly policed there should be no need for an individual to bear arms. Rittenhouse is a fine example of what happens, as if we needed more proof. He took his automatic rifle out, ostensibly to protect property, he ended up arguing (or whtever you want to call it) with demonstrators (others will call them rioters, who is right?) and is now charged with murder. All the shootings every year, kids being massacred and the police, when responding to a call tending towards extreme caution because anybody could be carrying a gun. It's utter madness but it seems that far too many Americans can't see it.
That’s not true at all. The right is ALWAYS willing to debate. The facts and common sense is on the right, it’s absolutely impossible to get someone left leaning to enter into a debate regarding what they claim to stand for and that’s because they know the arguments are weak. If they wanted to smear names ASWELL as being able to debate their points then that’s palatable at least.
There is no problem with the second amendment, it is there to stop Governments over-reaching, that included Government police. I think it’s pretty disingenuous to say “argued with demonstrators”, he was being chased by a mob of armed criminals who were burning the city to the ground. Some will say thankfully he did bring his rifle to the riot where he was determined to protect civilians from these criminals, otherwise he may not be here today to tell the tale. Others have no been so lucky.
Swansea Independent Poster of the Year 2021 and 2022.
Kamala Harris Vs Donald Trump on 21:15 - Aug 27 by Kilkennyjack
And they are correct. In Trump's America there would be no violence. It is the Democrat's America that all this violence is not only taking place but being allowed and even supported. Kamala Harris being one of the supporters.
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Kamala Harris Vs Donald Trump on 13:15 - Aug 28 with 1160 views
Kamala Harris Vs Donald Trump on 11:32 - Aug 28 by Dr_Parnassus
That’s not true at all. The right is ALWAYS willing to debate. The facts and common sense is on the right, it’s absolutely impossible to get someone left leaning to enter into a debate regarding what they claim to stand for and that’s because they know the arguments are weak. If they wanted to smear names ASWELL as being able to debate their points then that’s palatable at least.
There is no problem with the second amendment, it is there to stop Governments over-reaching, that included Government police. I think it’s pretty disingenuous to say “argued with demonstrators”, he was being chased by a mob of armed criminals who were burning the city to the ground. Some will say thankfully he did bring his rifle to the riot where he was determined to protect civilians from these criminals, otherwise he may not be here today to tell the tale. Others have no been so lucky.
The right always willing to debate?
Not from what I've seen. People have put forward valid criticisms of Trump which you dismiss as "soundbites" then move on to what you want to talk about.
And their comprehension leaves much to be desired. Someone can repeatedly tell them they're against violence from all sides only to be answered with "So, you enjoy seeing little old men beaten up do you?".
Completely pointless trying to debate with someone who is not arguing in good faith.
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Kamala Harris Vs Donald Trump on 13:18 - Aug 28 with 1159 views
Kamala Harris Vs Donald Trump on 13:15 - Aug 28 by Humpty
The right always willing to debate?
Not from what I've seen. People have put forward valid criticisms of Trump which you dismiss as "soundbites" then move on to what you want to talk about.
And their comprehension leaves much to be desired. Someone can repeatedly tell them they're against violence from all sides only to be answered with "So, you enjoy seeing little old men beaten up do you?".
Completely pointless trying to debate with someone who is not arguing in good faith.
They weren’t political points, they were character assassinations with such things like “he is divisive and hates women”. It’s just leftist garbage soundbites that have absolutely nothing to do with politics or the debate at hand.
You are a prime example, I am yet to see you enter a debate with any sort of point or willingness to discuss anything at all other than throwing accusations at people. Which is the epitome of entering a debate in bad faith, right?
You have been given every opportunity and seemingly still unwilling to discuss anything of note. There is a reason for that.
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Kamala Harris Vs Donald Trump on 13:18 - Aug 28 by Dr_Parnassus
They weren’t political points, they were character assassinations with such things like “he is divisive and hates women”. It’s just leftist garbage soundbites that have absolutely nothing to do with politics or the debate at hand.
You are a prime example, I am yet to see you enter a debate with any sort of point or willingness to discuss anything at all other than throwing accusations at people. Which is the epitome of entering a debate in bad faith, right?
You have been given every opportunity and seemingly still unwilling to discuss anything of note. There is a reason for that.
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Kilks said Trump sows division, is a draft dodger, wrecks international agreements and mentioned the pandemic death rates in the US.
All valid criticisms. You dismissed them all as soundbites.
That's not debating.
Also noticeable that you ignored the bit about accusing people of enjoying watching little old men get attacked.
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Kamala Harris Vs Donald Trump on 13:44 - Aug 28 with 1148 views
Kamala Harris Vs Donald Trump on 13:35 - Aug 28 by Humpty
Kilks said Trump sows division, is a draft dodger, wrecks international agreements and mentioned the pandemic death rates in the US.
All valid criticisms. You dismissed them all as soundbites.
That's not debating.
Also noticeable that you ignored the bit about accusing people of enjoying watching little old men get attacked.
1. “Sows division” - soundbite. There is no rationale there at all.
2. “Draft dodger” - soundbite. It is not a political point regarding his presidency. It’s an accusation due to trying to character assassinate.
3. “Wrecks international agreements” - we can discuss that. It’s a political point. Feel free to tell me the international deals he had made, and those he has “wrecked” and why. I can then see if there is a counter to that.
4. “Pandemic response” - you can not judge a pandemic response until it’s over. The economy has kept running while hospitals have been kept under capacity, that’s perfect for a pandemic. When hospitals have to turn patients away is when fingers can be pointed. More casualties early on mean the country will probably be first out of it.
5. That is absolutely debating. I have made all my points open to debate and have debated every single political point put to me, but have little time for character assassinations and baseless accusation.
6. You backed BLM, attacked those that don’t but refused to explain why you supported such an organisation that is deep rooted in violence and racism. Refusing to explain yourself will often end up in people assuming you support their actions.
Now I hope you will return the same courtesy? Why do you support BLM? Do you know what they are fighting for? Where do you think those things exist in the system and in what form?
Swansea Independent Poster of the Year 2021 and 2022.
Kamala Harris Vs Donald Trump on 13:35 - Aug 28 by Humpty
Kilks said Trump sows division, is a draft dodger, wrecks international agreements and mentioned the pandemic death rates in the US.
All valid criticisms. You dismissed them all as soundbites.
That's not debating.
Also noticeable that you ignored the bit about accusing people of enjoying watching little old men get attacked.
I will pick just one point. Pandemic rates in the USA. Now explain to me as Kilkenny can't, what it has to do with the President. It was established early on that he was NOT responsible for how the various states controlled the pandemic, the Governors were. Now tell me why 7 of the top ten worst states for mortality rates which are all run by Democrats, the top 5 all being Democrat states is the Presidents fault.
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Kamala Harris Vs Donald Trump on 13:59 - Aug 28 with 1140 views
Kamala Harris Vs Donald Trump on 13:44 - Aug 28 by Dr_Parnassus
1. “Sows division” - soundbite. There is no rationale there at all.
2. “Draft dodger” - soundbite. It is not a political point regarding his presidency. It’s an accusation due to trying to character assassinate.
3. “Wrecks international agreements” - we can discuss that. It’s a political point. Feel free to tell me the international deals he had made, and those he has “wrecked” and why. I can then see if there is a counter to that.
4. “Pandemic response” - you can not judge a pandemic response until it’s over. The economy has kept running while hospitals have been kept under capacity, that’s perfect for a pandemic. When hospitals have to turn patients away is when fingers can be pointed. More casualties early on mean the country will probably be first out of it.
5. That is absolutely debating. I have made all my points open to debate and have debated every single political point put to me, but have little time for character assassinations and baseless accusation.
6. You backed BLM, attacked those that don’t but refused to explain why you supported such an organisation that is deep rooted in violence and racism. Refusing to explain yourself will often end up in people assuming you support their actions.
Now I hope you will return the same courtesy? Why do you support BLM? Do you know what they are fighting for? Where do you think those things exist in the system and in what form?
As I've already said, many times, I support the basic anti racism aims of BLM though I don't agree with some of their policies. I don't think the far left message they also support as helpful.
I don't think BLM support violence, though some members may support it. I certainly don't.
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