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Has the world been conned over COVID-19? 09:53 - Dec 13 with 33390 viewsA_Fans_Dad

The actions of Governments all over the world are shaped on the basis of the PCR COVID test results.
For months now there have been serious question marks over the accuracy of the tests.
Well now there is a definitive study on the original research and it's world wide adoption which is totally condemning.

https://www.globalresearch.ca/

This does not decry the deaths that occur with COVID-19, but there are also many questions over the counting of them as well.
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Has the world been conned over COVID-19? on 19:44 - Dec 19 with 1078 viewsJack123

Has the world been conned over COVID-19? on 19:26 - Dec 19 by Catullus

I do talk to people, very few think this is a massive conspiracy. I only know/have spoken to one person who's considering not having the vaccine but only because he's concerned about how quickly it was produced.

Surely if it was a war against humanity they wouldn't have told us about the virus, they'd have locked themselves away and let the rest of us get on with it. Thye wouldn't tell us of vaccines or symptoms, it's not much of a war.

It's not about control either because they already have that.

If they all know this is rubbish then why are the vast majority wearing masks, using hand sanitiser, keeping their distance? Why have the protests only been tiny numbers of people? There was one in Neath and about 30 showed up.


With regards to masks, most prob to avoid confrontation , from personal experience when the mask rule was mandated, a week into I chose not to wear one, was called out about it, and they said I wouldn't be served in the future without a muzzle on.

I also noticed whilst on entry to Swansea Market via the Oxford street entrance, they have a big sign on the door, NO MASK NO ENTRY
[Post edited 19 Dec 2020 19:45]

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Has the world been conned over COVID-19? on 19:44 - Dec 19 with 1078 viewsScotia

Has the world been conned over COVID-19? on 18:58 - Dec 19 by shingle

You have now become mr speculation man.


Nothing speculative about that at all. It's what has been recorded, take a look.

I wasn't really speculating that they've found a miracle cure in the last week. That was sarcasm.
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Has the world been conned over COVID-19? on 19:48 - Dec 19 with 1069 viewsA_Fans_Dad

Has the world been conned over COVID-19? on 19:26 - Dec 19 by Catullus

I do talk to people, very few think this is a massive conspiracy. I only know/have spoken to one person who's considering not having the vaccine but only because he's concerned about how quickly it was produced.

Surely if it was a war against humanity they wouldn't have told us about the virus, they'd have locked themselves away and let the rest of us get on with it. Thye wouldn't tell us of vaccines or symptoms, it's not much of a war.

It's not about control either because they already have that.

If they all know this is rubbish then why are the vast majority wearing masks, using hand sanitiser, keeping their distance? Why have the protests only been tiny numbers of people? There was one in Neath and about 30 showed up.


"It's not about control either because they already have that."

Do you mean that they have it now, or they had it before?
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Has the world been conned over COVID-19? on 19:54 - Dec 19 with 1055 viewsScotia

Has the world been conned over COVID-19? on 18:49 - Dec 19 by shingle

Mate what part of an average of no more than 20 deaths a day since March can you not understand, and now you come out with that the reason there death rate is so low especially for a country that does not lock down is because there is a massive amount of back tracking to be done 38 deaths today in Wales over 500 in UK, 19 in Sweden, yep they are a lot worse off
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Where do you get your figures from? 100 deaths were recorded in Sweden yesterday. That is over 600 if compared to the UK, Sweden is far more sparsely populated too.
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Has the world been conned over COVID-19? on 20:25 - Dec 19 with 1028 viewsmajorraglan

Has the world been conned over COVID-19? on 19:41 - Dec 19 by Scotia

I have only spoken to one taxi driver in real life who thinks this is a hoax and he clearly had issues. The only other people I've heard about and from who think this is anything other than real are right wing idiots on the Internet or talk radio.

I've got three mates who are Dr's, and know plenty of other nhs employees. They're just normal people who have normal lives . They're not part of any global conspiracy or propaganda machine. One of them sent me a photo tonight of his patient admission spreadsheet in Morriston ITU. It was over 20 lines of individual patients with nothing other than "covid pneumonia" next to their name.

This is completely real unfortunately. The same clowns who think this isn't real are the same ones who are anti-vaxx. Darwin was absolutely right.


I know a few people working in hospitals, they’ve been run off their feet caring for a covid patients who are increasing in number and, sadly, dying in increasing numbers. They and their colleagues are stressed out, working really hard to cope with increasing workloads and lower staffing levels, they know the risks they face and have seen NHS colleagues lose their lives. It’s not a hoax.
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Has the world been conned over COVID-19? on 20:31 - Dec 19 with 1020 viewsjack2jack

Has the world been conned over COVID-19? on 20:25 - Dec 19 by majorraglan

I know a few people working in hospitals, they’ve been run off their feet caring for a covid patients who are increasing in number and, sadly, dying in increasing numbers. They and their colleagues are stressed out, working really hard to cope with increasing workloads and lower staffing levels, they know the risks they face and have seen NHS colleagues lose their lives. It’s not a hoax.


It's weird isn't it the missus spoke to a nurse only a few hours ago, who said that it was no worse than any other year. And the death figures are not all that.
Go figure
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Has the world been conned over COVID-19? on 20:45 - Dec 19 with 1011 viewsNeath_Jack

Has the world been conned over COVID-19? on 20:31 - Dec 19 by jack2jack

It's weird isn't it the missus spoke to a nurse only a few hours ago, who said that it was no worse than any other year. And the death figures are not all that.
Go figure



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Has the world been conned over COVID-19? on 20:45 - Dec 19 with 1011 viewsScotia

Has the world been conned over COVID-19? on 20:31 - Dec 19 by jack2jack

It's weird isn't it the missus spoke to a nurse only a few hours ago, who said that it was no worse than any other year. And the death figures are not all that.
Go figure


Not all nurses are directly involved with covid. In fact most aren't.
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Has the world been conned over COVID-19? on 20:48 - Dec 19 with 1009 viewsjack2jack

Has the world been conned over COVID-19? on 20:45 - Dec 19 by Neath_Jack



WTF.
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Has the world been conned over COVID-19? on 20:49 - Dec 19 with 1007 viewsjack2jack

Has the world been conned over COVID-19? on 20:45 - Dec 19 by Scotia

Not all nurses are directly involved with covid. In fact most aren't.


And!
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Has the world been conned over COVID-19? on 20:53 - Dec 19 with 1000 viewsScotia

Has the world been conned over COVID-19? on 20:49 - Dec 19 by jack2jack

And!


What do you think? If they don't work with covid patients they've probably been no busier than usual.
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Has the world been conned over COVID-19? on 20:53 - Dec 19 with 997 viewsJack123

Has the world been conned over COVID-19? on 20:49 - Dec 19 by jack2jack

And!


Exactly they think you are either lying or making it up.

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Has the world been conned over COVID-19? on 20:58 - Dec 19 with 989 viewsDJack

Has the world been conned over COVID-19? on 20:53 - Dec 19 by Jack123

Exactly they think you are either lying or making it up.


No they think it is irrelevant. If he had said he'd heard from a nurse on a COVID ward then that would be something to consider.

It is far better to grasp the universe as it really is than to persist in delusion, however satisfying and reassuring. - Carl Sagan

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Has the world been conned over COVID-19? on 20:58 - Dec 19 with 988 viewsjack2jack

Has the world been conned over COVID-19? on 20:53 - Dec 19 by Scotia

What do you think? If they don't work with covid patients they've probably been no busier than usual.


So no nurses talk to other nurses, and your saying she doesn't know what's going on.
In other parts of the hospital.😂
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Has the world been conned over COVID-19? on 21:00 - Dec 19 with 985 viewsA_Fans_Dad

Has the world been conned over COVID-19? on 19:54 - Dec 19 by Scotia

Where do you get your figures from? 100 deaths were recorded in Sweden yesterday. That is over 600 if compared to the UK, Sweden is far more sparsely populated too.


You need to provide a link to that 100 deaths as it certainly isn't on worldometers.
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Has the world been conned over COVID-19? on 21:00 - Dec 19 with 982 viewsjack2jack

Has the world been conned over COVID-19? on 20:53 - Dec 19 by Jack123

Exactly they think you are either lying or making it up.


10 ambulances outside The Guildhall all yesterday, on a training day, in the middle of the worst Pandemic in 100 years.
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Has the world been conned over COVID-19? on 21:01 - Dec 19 with 981 viewsScotia

Has the world been conned over COVID-19? on 20:53 - Dec 19 by Jack123

Exactly they think you are either lying or making it up.


I'd happily share the spreadsheet from Morriston ITU my mate sent me on here if possible. It's completely anonymous.

Is there anyway I can do that?
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Has the world been conned over COVID-19? on 21:07 - Dec 19 with 973 viewsNeath_Jack

Has the world been conned over COVID-19? on 21:01 - Dec 19 by Scotia

I'd happily share the spreadsheet from Morriston ITU my mate sent me on here if possible. It's completely anonymous.

Is there anyway I can do that?


You know you're wasting your time.

You could march them through a covid ward, and they'd come out with something like "They haven't got covid, it's food poisoning, Darran of Plymouth told us".

Divs.

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Has the world been conned over COVID-19? on 21:17 - Dec 19 with 952 viewsScotia

Has the world been conned over COVID-19? on 21:00 - Dec 19 by A_Fans_Dad

You need to provide a link to that 100 deaths as it certainly isn't on worldometers.


There seems to be a significant lag to worldometer reporting of deaths.

It's the graph that Google produces when you search. It says the source is:-

https://github.com/CSSEGISandD
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Has the world been conned over COVID-19? on 21:32 - Dec 19 with 940 viewsA_Fans_Dad

Has the world been conned over COVID-19? on 21:17 - Dec 19 by Scotia

There seems to be a significant lag to worldometer reporting of deaths.

It's the graph that Google produces when you search. It says the source is:-

https://github.com/CSSEGISandD


Well, I don't know where they got 100 from because their link to the actual Swedish data only goes up to the 17th of December and it shows 2 for that day.
The highest value for that period on their chart is 76 on the 6th.
Which is precisely that shown on Worldometers.
In fact Worldometers goes up to the 18th and shows 20 deaths and the 2 for the 17th.

Sweden's own data
https://experience.arcgis.com/
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Has the world been conned over COVID-19? on 21:42 - Dec 19 with 930 viewsJack123

Has the world been conned over COVID-19? on 20:58 - Dec 19 by DJack

No they think it is irrelevant. If he had said he'd heard from a nurse on a COVID ward then that would be something to consider.


I notice you said they, what is your position on this? Shall we say bolox or no bolox

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Has the world been conned over COVID-19? on 21:54 - Dec 19 with 915 viewsScotia

Has the world been conned over COVID-19? on 21:32 - Dec 19 by A_Fans_Dad

Well, I don't know where they got 100 from because their link to the actual Swedish data only goes up to the 17th of December and it shows 2 for that day.
The highest value for that period on their chart is 76 on the 6th.
Which is precisely that shown on Worldometers.
In fact Worldometers goes up to the 18th and shows 20 deaths and the 2 for the 17th.

Sweden's own data
https://experience.arcgis.com/
[Post edited 19 Dec 2020 21:32]


I don't know where the data has come from to be honest, but it is clear that worldometer isn't up to date otherwise there would be an inverse relationship between cases and deaths and that is before you consider the infection and death time lag.

It seems to run about 2 weeks behind so 76 on 6th of December may be about correct. That's 456 based on the UK population.
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Has the world been conned over COVID-19? on 22:59 - Dec 19 with 892 viewsCatullus

Has the world been conned over COVID-19? on 19:48 - Dec 19 by A_Fans_Dad

"It's not about control either because they already have that."

Do you mean that they have it now, or they had it before?


They had it before, the world is ruled by the rich and powerful. Democracy is a myth, wherever you look there is one rule for the rich and famous and another rule for us plebs.

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Has the world been conned over COVID-19? on 23:00 - Dec 19 with 890 viewsA_Fans_Dad

Has the world been conned over COVID-19? on 21:54 - Dec 19 by Scotia

I don't know where the data has come from to be honest, but it is clear that worldometer isn't up to date otherwise there would be an inverse relationship between cases and deaths and that is before you consider the infection and death time lag.

It seems to run about 2 weeks behind so 76 on 6th of December may be about correct. That's 456 based on the UK population.


So which part of worldometers is the same as Sweden's official data didn't you understand?
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Has the world been conned over COVID-19? on 23:03 - Dec 19 with 884 viewsAndy1300

Has the world been conned over COVID-19? on 23:00 - Dec 19 by A_Fans_Dad

So which part of worldometers is the same as Sweden's official data didn't you understand?


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