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| The transfer situation at Swansea is positive and this is why - Big signing comi on 15:03 - Jan 18 with 1573 views | Chief |
| The transfer situation at Swansea is positive and this is why - Big signing comi on 14:19 - Jan 18 by ReslovenSwan1 |
The last 17 months of his contract. Huw Jenkins made a £8m 0ffer with 6 months on his contract and he signed for Stoke. The offer from Stoke was £13m. He did not need to go to Stoke. He chose to go to Stoke. He wanted to sign for Swansea so much he actually signed for Stoke twice.
This tells me he did not want to go to Swansea. Its tough to take I know for the prodigal son but there you go. |
So Liverpool would have let him come to us if he'd wanted to, despite us offering 5million quid less than Stoke?
Is that what you're saying? |  |
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| The transfer situation at Swansea is positive and this is why - Big signing comi on 15:15 - Jan 18 with 1532 views | Catullus |
| The transfer situation at Swansea is positive and this is why - Big signing comi on 12:49 - Jan 18 by PatchesOHoulihan |
If we got him we’d go up |
Well I can't guarantee that but I'd love to see Gilmour here and not just short term, try for an 18 month deal.
https://www.talkchelsea.net/op | |
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| The transfer situation at Swansea is positive and this is why - Big signing comi on 15:21 - Jan 18 with 1524 views | Catullus |
| The transfer situation at Swansea is positive and this is why - Big signing comi on 14:19 - Jan 18 by ReslovenSwan1 |
The last 17 months of his contract. Huw Jenkins made a £8m 0ffer with 6 months on his contract and he signed for Stoke. The offer from Stoke was £13m. He did not need to go to Stoke. He chose to go to Stoke. He wanted to sign for Swansea so much he actually signed for Stoke twice.
This tells me he did not want to go to Swansea. Its tough to take I know for the prodigal son but there you go. |
That' sna interesting spin on the facts.
Here is what I remember. Liverpool wanted 8 million but Jenkins said it was too much. Liverpool waited, Joe went to the Euro's and had a stormer, on his return Stoke offered 13 million and we were priced out.
We could have had him back and at the time I think he said he'd like to return but Jenkins wouldn't pay what most of us seemed to think was a fair price. Certainly after the Euro's 8 million looked a steal. | |
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| The transfer situation at Swansea is positive and this is why - Big signing comi on 15:35 - Jan 18 with 1487 views | KeithHaynes |
On topic, Jay Fulton has signed a three year deal and it’s confirmed today.
As good a signing we could wish for.
The transfer situation is positive. |  |
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| (No subject) (n/t) on 15:43 - Jan 18 with 1462 views | cymrojack |
| The transfer situation at Swansea is positive and this is why - Big signing comi on 15:35 - Jan 18 by KeithHaynes |
On topic, Jay Fulton has signed a three year deal and it’s confirmed today.
As good a signing we could wish for.
The transfer situation is positive. |
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| The transfer situation at Swansea is positive and this is why - Big signing comi on 15:44 - Jan 18 with 1454 views | Badlands |
| The transfer situation at Swansea is positive and this is why - Big signing comi on 15:21 - Jan 18 by Catullus |
That' sna interesting spin on the facts.
Here is what I remember. Liverpool wanted 8 million but Jenkins said it was too much. Liverpool waited, Joe went to the Euro's and had a stormer, on his return Stoke offered 13 million and we were priced out.
We could have had him back and at the time I think he said he'd like to return but Jenkins wouldn't pay what most of us seemed to think was a fair price. Certainly after the Euro's 8 million looked a steal. |
TBF what has he done since? |  |
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| The transfer situation at Swansea is positive and this is why - Big signing comi on 15:45 - Jan 18 with 1454 views | Highjack |
| The transfer situation at Swansea is positive and this is why - Big signing comi on 15:35 - Jan 18 by KeithHaynes |
On topic, Jay Fulton has signed a three year deal and it’s confirmed today.
As good a signing we could wish for.
The transfer situation is positive. |
Why hasn’t he been in the frame for a Scotland cap at any point when you look at some of the dross they’ve had in there? |  |
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| The transfer situation at Swansea is positive and this is why - Big signing comi on 15:45 - Jan 18 with 1452 views | Catullus |
| The transfer situation at Swansea is positive and this is why - Big signing comi on 15:35 - Jan 18 by KeithHaynes |
On topic, Jay Fulton has signed a three year deal and it’s confirmed today.
As good a signing we could wish for.
The transfer situation is positive. |
Sorry for straying boss 
Good news re Fulton, he has really stepped up this season and lets hope he continues to get better. | |
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| The transfer situation at Swansea is positive and this is why - Big signing comi on 16:41 - Jan 18 with 1353 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
| The transfer situation at Swansea is positive and this is why - Big signing comi on 15:03 - Jan 18 by Chief |
So Liverpool would have let him come to us if he'd wanted to, despite us offering 5million quid less than Stoke?
Is that what you're saying? |
Absolutely. Huw jenkins tossed up a half volley on the off side and Joey played a straight bat and did what Klopp told him to do serving the interests of Liverpool. They had no interest in either playing the player or giving him new contract.
Standing up to Klopp is not easy truth be told. Roque told Swansea he was going to Sevilla and no where else and he was not in in last 6 months.. He just had a much better agent. If Joey wanted to be at Swansea he woud be at Swansea. |  |
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| The transfer situation at Swansea is positive and this is why - Big signing comi on 17:05 - Jan 18 with 1281 views | angryjack |
| The transfer situation at Swansea is positive and this is why - Big signing comi on 16:41 - Jan 18 by ReslovenSwan1 |
Absolutely. Huw jenkins tossed up a half volley on the off side and Joey played a straight bat and did what Klopp told him to do serving the interests of Liverpool. They had no interest in either playing the player or giving him new contract.
Standing up to Klopp is not easy truth be told. Roque told Swansea he was going to Sevilla and no where else and he was not in in last 6 months.. He just had a much better agent. If Joey wanted to be at Swansea he woud be at Swansea. |
Nothing to do with stoke giving him a 5 year 60 grand a week contract and we offered 3 with more than half that.you think he'd lisdte ed to klopp ....ha ha | | | |
| The transfer situation at Swansea is positive and this is why - Big signing comi on 17:09 - Jan 18 with 1261 views | 34dfgdf54 |
| The transfer situation at Swansea is positive and this is why - Big signing comi on 16:41 - Jan 18 by ReslovenSwan1 |
Absolutely. Huw jenkins tossed up a half volley on the off side and Joey played a straight bat and did what Klopp told him to do serving the interests of Liverpool. They had no interest in either playing the player or giving him new contract.
Standing up to Klopp is not easy truth be told. Roque told Swansea he was going to Sevilla and no where else and he was not in in last 6 months.. He just had a much better agent. If Joey wanted to be at Swansea he woud be at Swansea. |
False. |  | | |
| The transfer situation at Swansea is positive and this is why - Big signing comi on 17:20 - Jan 18 with 1222 views | onehunglow |
| The transfer situation at Swansea is positive and this is why - Big signing comi on 15:35 - Jan 18 by KeithHaynes |
On topic, Jay Fulton has signed a three year deal and it’s confirmed today.
As good a signing we could wish for.
The transfer situation is positive. |
What else happened today then.
Have I missed something or are we still negotiating | |
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| The transfer situation at Swansea is positive and this is why - Big signing comi on 17:26 - Jan 18 with 1212 views | Treforys_Jack |
| The transfer situation at Swansea is positive and this is why - Big signing comi on 16:41 - Jan 18 by ReslovenSwan1 |
Absolutely. Huw jenkins tossed up a half volley on the off side and Joey played a straight bat and did what Klopp told him to do serving the interests of Liverpool. They had no interest in either playing the player or giving him new contract.
Standing up to Klopp is not easy truth be told. Roque told Swansea he was going to Sevilla and no where else and he was not in in last 6 months.. He just had a much better agent. If Joey wanted to be at Swansea he woud be at Swansea. |
Absolute rubbish, I can categorically say from the horses mouth he wanted to return to Swansea but was left high and dry by HJ. |  | | |
| The transfer situation at Swansea is positive and this is why - Big signing comi on 17:31 - Jan 18 with 1199 views | angryjack |
| The transfer situation at Swansea is positive and this is why - Big signing comi on 17:26 - Jan 18 by Treforys_Jack |
Absolute rubbish, I can categorically say from the horses mouth he wanted to return to Swansea but was left high and dry by HJ. |
Correct.don't think we could have matched stokes contract in any case | | | |
| The transfer situation at Swansea is positive and this is why - Big signing comi on 17:40 - Jan 18 with 1173 views | 34dfgdf54 |
| The transfer situation at Swansea is positive and this is why - Big signing comi on 17:31 - Jan 18 by angryjack |
Correct.don't think we could have matched stokes contract in any case |
Liverpool wanted more than we offered, simple as that. Players can’t talk to clubs (officially) until an offer is accepted.
Joey Allen doesn’t bully Liverpool into accepting bids £5/£6m lower. Ludicrous suggestion.
Joey was ready to come back, even his agent did, fact. | | | |
| The transfer situation at Swansea is positive and this is why - Big signing comi on 17:42 - Jan 18 with 1167 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
| The transfer situation at Swansea is positive and this is why - Big signing comi on 17:05 - Jan 18 by angryjack |
Nothing to do with stoke giving him a 5 year 60 grand a week contract and we offered 3 with more than half that.you think he'd lisdte ed to klopp ....ha ha |
You are right of course. I am simply saying Joey did not come to Swansea and it was not the fault of the chairman at the time. He offered decent money but joe decided to go somewhere else.
Stoke have out bid Swansea a number of times and owe their holding company £180m more than Swansea owes theirs. Swansea offered £2-3m for Woods. Stoke paid the £6m Brentford wanted. Those two deals account for £10m of their deficit.
Joey prefered to go to Stoke.(twice) [Post edited 18 Jan 2021 17:47]
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| The transfer situation at Swansea is positive and this is why - Big signing comi on 17:42 - Jan 18 with 1165 views | Chief |
| The transfer situation at Swansea is positive and this is why - Big signing comi on 16:41 - Jan 18 by ReslovenSwan1 |
Absolutely. Huw jenkins tossed up a half volley on the off side and Joey played a straight bat and did what Klopp told him to do serving the interests of Liverpool. They had no interest in either playing the player or giving him new contract.
Standing up to Klopp is not easy truth be told. Roque told Swansea he was going to Sevilla and no where else and he was not in in last 6 months.. He just had a much better agent. If Joey wanted to be at Swansea he woud be at Swansea. |
So Liverpool were willing to lose £5million? | |
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| The transfer situation at Swansea is positive and this is why - Big signing comi on 17:51 - Jan 18 with 1131 views | Chief |
www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/joe-allen-liverpool-swansea-stoke-15180843.amp
Not really sure why the events of this are being questioned? | |
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| The transfer situation at Swansea is positive and this is why - Big signing comi on 17:56 - Jan 18 with 1123 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
| The transfer situation at Swansea is positive and this is why - Big signing comi on 17:42 - Jan 18 by Chief |
So Liverpool were willing to lose £5million? |
Joey was in final season. Liverpool did not offer him a new contract and had no intention of playing him. If he wanted to play for the terms offered by Swansea he would have dug in and forced Liverpool to release him for the price offered by Swansea. He had no obligation to go anywhere else and was within his rights to see out his contract just like Ayew.
As Angry Jack stated Stoke offer more wages and a greater transfer fee. Allen did not have to accept it. Swansea were prepared to pay £8m. Joey wanted £60k a week. Swansea could have paid this money only if he ran down his contract and taken the £8m in wages in a three year deal. £8m + £1m from the clubs funds. Joey could have played for Swansea on £60k a week only if he ran down his contract. He chose not to. | |
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| The transfer situation at Swansea is positive and this is why - Big signing comi on 17:58 - Jan 18 with 1119 views | Chief |
| The transfer situation at Swansea is positive and this is why - Big signing comi on 17:56 - Jan 18 by ReslovenSwan1 |
Joey was in final season. Liverpool did not offer him a new contract and had no intention of playing him. If he wanted to play for the terms offered by Swansea he would have dug in and forced Liverpool to release him for the price offered by Swansea. He had no obligation to go anywhere else and was within his rights to see out his contract just like Ayew.
As Angry Jack stated Stoke offer more wages and a greater transfer fee. Allen did not have to accept it. Swansea were prepared to pay £8m. Joey wanted £60k a week. Swansea could have paid this money only if he ran down his contract and taken the £8m in wages in a three year deal. £8m + £1m from the clubs funds. Joey could have played for Swansea on £60k a week only if he ran down his contract. He chose not to. |
So ultimately then, our chairman at the time didn't bid as much as a rival club then? | |
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| The transfer situation at Swansea is positive and this is why - Big signing comi on 18:06 - Jan 18 with 1088 views | Catullus |
| The transfer situation at Swansea is positive and this is why - Big signing comi on 16:41 - Jan 18 by ReslovenSwan1 |
Absolutely. Huw jenkins tossed up a half volley on the off side and Joey played a straight bat and did what Klopp told him to do serving the interests of Liverpool. They had no interest in either playing the player or giving him new contract.
Standing up to Klopp is not easy truth be told. Roque told Swansea he was going to Sevilla and no where else and he was not in in last 6 months.. He just had a much better agent. If Joey wanted to be at Swansea he woud be at Swansea. |
Absolute rubbish. It's not quite what I said previously but miles away from your claims. From Allen himself,
https://www.walesonline.co.uk/
So it was never the case that Joe didn't want to come, we were outbid and Liverpool rejected any offers lower than 13 million.
PS, why are you again perpetuating falsehoods to stick up for Jenkins? [Post edited 18 Jan 2021 18:08]
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| The transfer situation at Swansea is positive and this is why - Big signing comi on 18:18 - Jan 18 with 1038 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
| The transfer situation at Swansea is positive and this is why - Big signing comi on 17:58 - Jan 18 by Chief |
So ultimately then, our chairman at the time didn't bid as much as a rival club then? |
Swansea city offered to buy a player off Liverpool that had one year on his deal. The £8m was a good offer Liverpool did not accept it and accepted an offer from Stoke for Joey Allen. of £13m with good wages. Joe Allen did not need to go there. He was on good wages anyway.
Had he declined to go to Stoke and instead decided on very good wages to "fight to get back in the first team picture " for 3 -4 months then his value would half from £13m to say £6.5m. Swansea could then offer £5m and give the £3m saved to Joey in wages. Joey was in the driving seat and could have helped Swansea out by runing down his contract either for 6 months or 12 months.
Stoke have out bid Swansea for Allen, Woods, Ince they overpaid every time and the players have not lived up to expectation. They owe their owners £180m more than Swansea owe theirs.
Roque mesa who had a 3 year deal became an unwanted player and told Huw Jenkins he would only go to his boyhood favourite club and would not conside a move anywhare else. Roque went to Sevilla and Swansea took a hit. Joey went where he was told and Liverpool cashed in. | |
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| The transfer situation at Swansea is positive and this is why - Big signing comi on 18:22 - Jan 18 with 1027 views | Chief |
| The transfer situation at Swansea is positive and this is why - Big signing comi on 18:18 - Jan 18 by ReslovenSwan1 |
Swansea city offered to buy a player off Liverpool that had one year on his deal. The £8m was a good offer Liverpool did not accept it and accepted an offer from Stoke for Joey Allen. of £13m with good wages. Joe Allen did not need to go there. He was on good wages anyway.
Had he declined to go to Stoke and instead decided on very good wages to "fight to get back in the first team picture " for 3 -4 months then his value would half from £13m to say £6.5m. Swansea could then offer £5m and give the £3m saved to Joey in wages. Joey was in the driving seat and could have helped Swansea out by runing down his contract either for 6 months or 12 months.
Stoke have out bid Swansea for Allen, Woods, Ince they overpaid every time and the players have not lived up to expectation. They owe their owners £180m more than Swansea owe theirs.
Roque mesa who had a 3 year deal became an unwanted player and told Huw Jenkins he would only go to his boyhood favourite club and would not conside a move anywhare else. Roque went to Sevilla and Swansea took a hit. Joey went where he was told and Liverpool cashed in. |
Why won't you answer my question? | |
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| The transfer situation at Swansea is positive and this is why - Big signing comi on 18:28 - Jan 18 with 1012 views | Nortbankboy |
| The transfer situation at Swansea is positive and this is why - Big signing comi on 18:18 - Jan 18 by ReslovenSwan1 |
Swansea city offered to buy a player off Liverpool that had one year on his deal. The £8m was a good offer Liverpool did not accept it and accepted an offer from Stoke for Joey Allen. of £13m with good wages. Joe Allen did not need to go there. He was on good wages anyway.
Had he declined to go to Stoke and instead decided on very good wages to "fight to get back in the first team picture " for 3 -4 months then his value would half from £13m to say £6.5m. Swansea could then offer £5m and give the £3m saved to Joey in wages. Joey was in the driving seat and could have helped Swansea out by runing down his contract either for 6 months or 12 months.
Stoke have out bid Swansea for Allen, Woods, Ince they overpaid every time and the players have not lived up to expectation. They owe their owners £180m more than Swansea owe theirs.
Roque mesa who had a 3 year deal became an unwanted player and told Huw Jenkins he would only go to his boyhood favourite club and would not conside a move anywhare else. Roque went to Sevilla and Swansea took a hit. Joey went where he was told and Liverpool cashed in. |
Has Joe been good value for all that money at stoke? | | | |
| The transfer situation at Swansea is positive and this is why - Big signing comi on 18:31 - Jan 18 with 1004 views | 34dfgdf54 |
| The transfer situation at Swansea is positive and this is why - Big signing comi on 18:22 - Jan 18 by Chief |
Why won't you answer my question? |
Because he’s talking absolute nonsense with complete and utter lies.
Stoke had a bid accepted, we didn’t. Why he’s bringing up the Roque Mesa situation up I’ll never know, wasn’t he sold the year we went down? Zero bargaining position for us we needed him off the books and he held the cards, Joey Allen doesn’t bully one of the biggest clubs in world football into doing what he wants. It was Stoke or have zero games. | | | |
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