| Wales to ban smoking in certain areas. 15:56 - Feb 21 with 4222 views | Flashberryjack |
I'm a non smoker, but I like a drink, are the WAG turning Wales into a nanny state? and shouldn't they be concentrating on more important things.
The minimum price that’s being set in Wales is 50p per unit of alcohol. A unit of alcohol is 10ml (two teaspoons) of pure alcohol.
Wales to fine parents who smoke at school gates £100
The Welsh Government is introducing stricter new anti-smoking rules on March 1
Smoking outside schools, hospitals or in public playgrounds will be outlawed
People will not be able to smoke in their own home while receiving a service
From March 2022, smoking in hotel bedrooms and guest houses will be banned
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| Wales to ban smoking in certain areas. on 18:38 - Feb 21 with 1151 views | Flashberryjack |
| Wales to ban smoking in certain areas. on 18:30 - Feb 21 by onehunglow |
A good point that .
Do you think they should stop asking if you do smoke [Post edited 21 Feb 2021 18:31]
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No, smoking is bad for your health, as are many other things. | |
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| Wales to ban smoking in certain areas. on 18:51 - Feb 21 with 1136 views | Joe_bradshaw |
| Wales to ban smoking in certain areas. on 17:41 - Feb 21 by Catullus |
I would like them to ban banning stuff! No more banning. |
Indeed.
We should all put up a banner.  |  |
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| Wales to ban smoking in certain areas. on 18:53 - Feb 21 with 1133 views | Boundy |
| Wales to ban smoking in certain areas. on 16:44 - Feb 21 by Flashberryjack |
Should they ban smoking and alcohol all together ? |
Yes but what next , male pattern baldness. ? I'm sure they'll think of something |  |
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| Wales to ban smoking in certain areas. on 19:41 - Feb 21 with 1103 views | Flashberryjack |
| Wales to ban smoking in certain areas. on 18:53 - Feb 21 by Boundy |
Yes but what next , male pattern baldness. ? I'm sure they'll think of something |
And that's my point, once the public accept bans and restrictions (no matter whether you agree or disagree with them) politicians will find other things to ban or restrict your liberties.
And it does seem that the SNP & Wag are pretty good at it. | |
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| Wales to ban smoking in certain areas. on 19:57 - Feb 21 with 1089 views | onehunglow |
You can't help balding.You can help not smoking | |
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| Wales to ban smoking in certain areas. on 20:01 - Feb 21 with 1088 views | Dr_Winston |
| Wales to ban smoking in certain areas. on 18:02 - Feb 21 by Jack123 |
Regarding the minimum price on alcohol, I notice the elections are coming up soon, if Drakeford and his mob were voted out, would the min price per unit be abolished? |
Hopefully.
In the list of pointless policies brought in because someone else already did them, minimum unit pricing is up there. It's had absolutely no effect on the amount of alcohol drunk. It hadn't in Scotland before Wales brought the law in, yet Wales still did it anyway. |  |
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| Wales to ban smoking in certain areas. on 20:49 - Feb 21 with 1065 views | MrSwerve |
| Wales to ban smoking in certain areas. on 20:01 - Feb 21 by Dr_Winston |
Hopefully.
In the list of pointless policies brought in because someone else already did them, minimum unit pricing is up there. It's had absolutely no effect on the amount of alcohol drunk. It hadn't in Scotland before Wales brought the law in, yet Wales still did it anyway. |
Yep. Nothing but a money spinner.
Plus it pisses me off. |  |
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| Wales to ban smoking in certain areas. on 20:59 - Feb 21 with 1050 views | Dr_Winston |
| Wales to ban smoking in certain areas. on 20:49 - Feb 21 by MrSwerve |
Yep. Nothing but a money spinner.
Plus it pisses me off. |
It's just petty, moralising bullshit that does nothing to improve the quality of life of people in Wales. Zero effect other than making something cost about £3 more, which is no deterrent in any way.
Any party promising to abolish crap like that will get my vote. Except Plaid obviously. I've got some standards. | |
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| Wales to ban smoking in certain areas. on 20:59 - Feb 21 with 1049 views | Flashberryjack |
| Wales to ban smoking in certain areas. on 20:49 - Feb 21 by MrSwerve |
Yep. Nothing but a money spinner.
Plus it pisses me off. |
As I've said previously, I buy quite a lot of spirits (not for personal use) when I'm ready to buy, I check what offers are on (especially around Christmas) then I always buy in England.
Annoying when I just want a slab of cider that's advertised on offer in the papers, only to see it doesn't apply to Wales & Scotland, f*cking annoying. | |
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| Wales to ban smoking in certain areas. on 21:08 - Feb 21 with 1039 views | Dr_Winston |
| Wales to ban smoking in certain areas. on 20:59 - Feb 21 by Flashberryjack |
As I've said previously, I buy quite a lot of spirits (not for personal use) when I'm ready to buy, I check what offers are on (especially around Christmas) then I always buy in England.
Annoying when I just want a slab of cider that's advertised on offer in the papers, only to see it doesn't apply to Wales & Scotland, f*cking annoying. |
Good booze deals on Amazon sometimes. They were knocking out litre bottles of Southern Comfort for £16 just before Christmas, which is below WG MUP. | |
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| Wales to ban smoking in certain areas. on 21:14 - Feb 21 with 1034 views | Jack123 |
| Wales to ban smoking in certain areas. on 20:59 - Feb 21 by Dr_Winston |
It's just petty, moralising bullshit that does nothing to improve the quality of life of people in Wales. Zero effect other than making something cost about £3 more, which is no deterrent in any way.
Any party promising to abolish crap like that will get my vote. Except Plaid obviously. I've got some standards. |
And let's not forget, the sneaky buggers brought this minimum price per unit in in curbing alcohol sales on super strength lager and cider, all the 7% stuff and above.
That was the talk, that was their reasoning for it, so nobody paid any attention.
And yet we find ourselves in a position in Wales paying hundreds of pounds more a year than England, who I might add have no intention of ever introducing the minimum price per unit.. [Post edited 21 Feb 2021 21:19]
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| Wales to ban smoking in certain areas. on 21:32 - Feb 21 with 1024 views | Flashberryjack |
| Wales to ban smoking in certain areas. on 21:08 - Feb 21 by Dr_Winston |
Good booze deals on Amazon sometimes. They were knocking out litre bottles of Southern Comfort for £16 just before Christmas, which is below WG MUP. |
Thanks, I'll check it out.
I usually get about 20 bottles of spirits and half dozen bottles of wine at a time, and I'm not particular what brand it is, as long as it's a reasonable quality named one. | |
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| Wales to ban smoking in certain areas. on 22:24 - Feb 21 with 988 views | majorraglan |
| Wales to ban smoking in certain areas. on 17:55 - Feb 21 by Jack123 |
Fair point, one thing I have noticed is the amount of smokers with young children in cars smoking, I find that disgusting! |
Totally agree with you, when I was a kid my old man smoked and he’d occasionally light up in the car, it used to really annoy me.
Smoking in cars with kids present has already been banned, it was banned a few years ago but I don't know if anyone’s ever been prosecuted. Personally I hate smoking and I can see the merit in making it as unattractive and difficult as possible, but who is going to enforce most of this?
Alcohol causes loads of issues in society, but I am not sure minimum price per unit is the answer. The people who need to drink the White Lightening type brews are going to drink it come what may and they will only end up spending a greater proportion of their disposable income on it leaving less for other things, if they have kids its likely to be the latter who end up losing out as the cash has gone elsewhere. If they can’t afford the booze they will just nick it or nick something else to pay for it like the druggies do.
I didn’t realise until I read it on here that the excess revenue from minimum price per unit goes in to the retailers pocket. | | | |
| Wales to ban smoking in certain areas. on 09:35 - Feb 22 with 938 views | onehunglow |
People don't like their "pleasures" of fags and booze going up.
The drinks and tobacco industries ensure any government does not seriously affect them.
People want a drink and fags,fine,but pay for the pleasure and it cost to the NHS | |
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| Wales to ban smoking in certain areas. on 11:28 - Feb 22 with 933 views | CountyJim |
Sorry needs to be done how many smokers do you see ignoring the no smoking sign's in hospital grounds they really are selfish
Remember before the smoking ban indoors how selfish smokers where they'd light up even if there where non smokers present they still smoked in front of staff in these buildings who some now have illnesses related to passive smoking because selfish smokers wanted to light up
I await the smokers on here telling me I always used to ask if anyone minded that they lit up  |  | | |
| Wales to ban smoking in certain areas. on 12:24 - Feb 22 with 914 views | Boundy |
| Wales to ban smoking in certain areas. on 09:35 - Feb 22 by onehunglow |
People don't like their "pleasures" of fags and booze going up.
The drinks and tobacco industries ensure any government does not seriously affect them.
People want a drink and fags,fine,but pay for the pleasure and it cost to the NHS |
But they do pay for their pleasures ,its called tax , that's why even in this pandemic you can buy booze and fags but not a pair of shoes, and no I'm not a smoker and I would class my self an infrequent drinker . Taxes raised on the above go along way to contribute to the running of the NHS . | |
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| Wales to ban smoking in certain areas. on 13:31 - Feb 22 with 892 views | BarrySwan |
| Wales to ban smoking in certain areas. on 12:24 - Feb 22 by Boundy |
But they do pay for their pleasures ,its called tax , that's why even in this pandemic you can buy booze and fags but not a pair of shoes, and no I'm not a smoker and I would class my self an infrequent drinker . Taxes raised on the above go along way to contribute to the running of the NHS . |
And also of course causes the massive cost to the NHS of treating smokers, plus the massive cost to the social security budget and loss of income tax revenue for all those on disability caused by smoking related illnesses and disabilities, figures which I doubt figure in those quoted by smokers when they claim that the tax on ciggies raises more for the NHS than it costs to treat them.
The outrage of smokers about how much tax on cigarettes subsidises the NHS also amazes me.
Since when did we gain the right to dictate where the taxes on our consumer goods were spent or directed. I buy a telly I don't remember being able to say where the VAT and other tax portion of that purchase is spent.
Also worth pointing out that whenever I see someone smoking in the car when in traffic I know 100% that the butt is coming flying out of the window in a short time, I even remark on it if I have a passenger in my car.
And sure enough without exception out flies the flicked cigarette butt shortly after. A 100% correct prediction rate stretching back over years.
The fact that it took legislation to stop smokers blowing smoke all over the rest of us in pubs and restaurants says an awful lot about the couldn't care less attitude prevelent amongst many smokers. [Post edited 22 Feb 2021 13:32]
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| Wales to ban smoking in certain areas. on 13:31 - Feb 22 with 890 views | onehunglow |
| Wales to ban smoking in certain areas. on 12:24 - Feb 22 by Boundy |
But they do pay for their pleasures ,its called tax , that's why even in this pandemic you can buy booze and fags but not a pair of shoes, and no I'm not a smoker and I would class my self an infrequent drinker . Taxes raised on the above go along way to contribute to the running of the NHS . |
But not enough. Take the much lauded Scandi countries where prices if drink would leave our regulars mortified.Remember the outrage over pub being shut for so long and how many have closed. It i sadly in our DNA .
We need prices of both to be prohibitive They are not currently so.
While we're at it,I would hammer gambling in any shape or form,an industry at the very core of corruption in sport. A filthy ,disgusting boil on the face on sport. | |
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| Wales to ban smoking in certain areas. on 13:39 - Feb 22 with 889 views | BarrySwan |
| Wales to ban smoking in certain areas. on 13:31 - Feb 22 by onehunglow |
But not enough. Take the much lauded Scandi countries where prices if drink would leave our regulars mortified.Remember the outrage over pub being shut for so long and how many have closed. It i sadly in our DNA .
We need prices of both to be prohibitive They are not currently so.
While we're at it,I would hammer gambling in any shape or form,an industry at the very core of corruption in sport. A filthy ,disgusting boil on the face on sport. |
Mind your own business, if you don't wish to gamble then don't.
Others such as myself pay some of our bills each year with our winnings without bothering a soul.
And for those that lose it seems OK to spend a couple of £thousand each year following a football team or going on holiday, buying a new car which instantly loses thousands in depreciation as soon as it leaves the forecourt but not to lose a similar amount if you enjoy trying to pick winners as a hobby or past time.
Whats the difference? | | | |
| Wales to ban smoking in certain areas. on 14:12 - Feb 22 with 877 views | onehunglow |
| Wales to ban smoking in certain areas. on 13:39 - Feb 22 by BarrySwan |
Mind your own business, if you don't wish to gamble then don't.
Others such as myself pay some of our bills each year with our winnings without bothering a soul.
And for those that lose it seems OK to spend a couple of £thousand each year following a football team or going on holiday, buying a new car which instantly loses thousands in depreciation as soon as it leaves the forecourt but not to lose a similar amount if you enjoy trying to pick winners as a hobby or past time.
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What?
I 'll give that response that is respect based rather than that which you have .
My business?
Gambling is a curse on us encouraging those to seek something for nothing that will change their lives.
YOU might be able to control it and have fun at losing your money but the graveyards are full of those that couldn't cope.Homes in the thousands lost and kids ripped away from the family in the process.The fact YOU enjoy it means nothing.
The Betting industry is filthy and appeals to man's inherent weakness;something for nothing.
Finally,you've chosen the wrong jockey to lecture .
Have a pleasant afternoon | |
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| Wales to ban smoking in certain areas. on 14:50 - Feb 22 with 861 views | BarrySwan |
| Wales to ban smoking in certain areas. on 14:12 - Feb 22 by onehunglow |
What?
I 'll give that response that is respect based rather than that which you have .
My business?
Gambling is a curse on us encouraging those to seek something for nothing that will change their lives.
YOU might be able to control it and have fun at losing your money but the graveyards are full of those that couldn't cope.Homes in the thousands lost and kids ripped away from the family in the process.The fact YOU enjoy it means nothing.
The Betting industry is filthy and appeals to man's inherent weakness;something for nothing.
Finally,you've chosen the wrong jockey to lecture .
Have a pleasant afternoon |
No I haven't.
I don't lose money over a set period of time and if I did then I might well consider it a hobby that I had fun at trying to win or then again I might not, it's very much up to me and others in a similar position.
I'm fed up of others lecturing people because a handful of others have no self control.
We have alcoholics who can't control themselves and yet the rest of the population are expected to suffer price rises because of those who appear to have no self control.
We have junkies who are unable to control themselves do we suggest that the rest of us do not take medicinal drugs that help cure us?
There is proposed legislation that as soon someone loses £100 a month gambling then their online accounts are suspended. Why don't we propose that someone is stopped from attending football matches once they've spent £100 a month Including season ticket costs pro rata.
Whats the difference between spending / losing £100 a month on enjoying betting on horse racing for example or spending £100 a month on following football? Except of course you can win some of your money back or more if indulging in your hobby of betting on horse racing?
I'm fed up of others lecturing the rest of us on drinking or gambling just because a tiny minority can't control their spending on these items.
Theres not a day goes by without someone in the paper in court because they spent spent spent on cars, clothes, holidays etc etc that they couldn't afford, every day there are hundreds of bankruptcies of those who couldn't control their credit card spending, are you suggesting that all these activities should be denied to the rest of us because of the inadequacies of others?
I see people that I know enjoying themselves everyday in their expensive new cars I don't go up them them lecturing them about how much they are spending each month on losing thousands of £pounds on their vehicles. Why would I?
So why should you lecture others on what they spend their money on.
I repeat.... If you don't wish to gamble then don't but stop lecturing the rest of us who do wish too. | | | |
| Wales to ban smoking in certain areas. on 18:40 - Feb 22 with 828 views | pencoedjack |
| Wales to ban smoking in certain areas. on 14:50 - Feb 22 by BarrySwan |
No I haven't.
I don't lose money over a set period of time and if I did then I might well consider it a hobby that I had fun at trying to win or then again I might not, it's very much up to me and others in a similar position.
I'm fed up of others lecturing people because a handful of others have no self control.
We have alcoholics who can't control themselves and yet the rest of the population are expected to suffer price rises because of those who appear to have no self control.
We have junkies who are unable to control themselves do we suggest that the rest of us do not take medicinal drugs that help cure us?
There is proposed legislation that as soon someone loses £100 a month gambling then their online accounts are suspended. Why don't we propose that someone is stopped from attending football matches once they've spent £100 a month Including season ticket costs pro rata.
Whats the difference between spending / losing £100 a month on enjoying betting on horse racing for example or spending £100 a month on following football? Except of course you can win some of your money back or more if indulging in your hobby of betting on horse racing?
I'm fed up of others lecturing the rest of us on drinking or gambling just because a tiny minority can't control their spending on these items.
Theres not a day goes by without someone in the paper in court because they spent spent spent on cars, clothes, holidays etc etc that they couldn't afford, every day there are hundreds of bankruptcies of those who couldn't control their credit card spending, are you suggesting that all these activities should be denied to the rest of us because of the inadequacies of others?
I see people that I know enjoying themselves everyday in their expensive new cars I don't go up them them lecturing them about how much they are spending each month on losing thousands of £pounds on their vehicles. Why would I?
So why should you lecture others on what they spend their money on.
I repeat.... If you don't wish to gamble then don't but stop lecturing the rest of us who do wish too. |
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| Wales to ban smoking in certain areas. on 19:19 - Feb 22 with 817 views | onehunglow |
| Wales to ban smoking in certain areas. on 18:40 - Feb 22 by pencoedjack |
Good post 👠|
Im fed up too with selfish people who think,because they like something,then it's ok.
That is a good post
Drink Tobacco Gambling.Just how do they benefit society as a whole.
I ll leave the disgusting horse racing "industry" so as not to further wind up Baz . Not for nothing is it the Sport of Kings.
And a little apology would be in order Baz. Im not attacking you in any way. [Post edited 22 Feb 2021 19:21]
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| Wales to ban smoking in certain areas. on 19:59 - Feb 22 with 795 views | Dr_Winston |
The stench of puritanical moral superiority hanging over this thread is something else. Perchy doesn't like drinking, smoking or gambling so nobody else should be allowed to either.
Incidentally, the high cost of store/bar bought alcohol in the Scandinavian countries has resulted in a thriving homebrew scene, where the ABV of beverages made knocks spots off pretty much anything you can buy. | |
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| Wales to ban smoking in certain areas. on 20:04 - Feb 22 with 793 views | raynor94 |
| Wales to ban smoking in certain areas. on 14:50 - Feb 22 by BarrySwan |
No I haven't.
I don't lose money over a set period of time and if I did then I might well consider it a hobby that I had fun at trying to win or then again I might not, it's very much up to me and others in a similar position.
I'm fed up of others lecturing people because a handful of others have no self control.
We have alcoholics who can't control themselves and yet the rest of the population are expected to suffer price rises because of those who appear to have no self control.
We have junkies who are unable to control themselves do we suggest that the rest of us do not take medicinal drugs that help cure us?
There is proposed legislation that as soon someone loses £100 a month gambling then their online accounts are suspended. Why don't we propose that someone is stopped from attending football matches once they've spent £100 a month Including season ticket costs pro rata.
Whats the difference between spending / losing £100 a month on enjoying betting on horse racing for example or spending £100 a month on following football? Except of course you can win some of your money back or more if indulging in your hobby of betting on horse racing?
I'm fed up of others lecturing the rest of us on drinking or gambling just because a tiny minority can't control their spending on these items.
Theres not a day goes by without someone in the paper in court because they spent spent spent on cars, clothes, holidays etc etc that they couldn't afford, every day there are hundreds of bankruptcies of those who couldn't control their credit card spending, are you suggesting that all these activities should be denied to the rest of us because of the inadequacies of others?
I see people that I know enjoying themselves everyday in their expensive new cars I don't go up them them lecturing them about how much they are spending each month on losing thousands of £pounds on their vehicles. Why would I?
So why should you lecture others on what they spend their money on.
I repeat.... If you don't wish to gamble then don't but stop lecturing the rest of us who do wish too. |
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