| BBC a disgrace 09:37 - Feb 28 with 3290 views | trampie |
Shocking behaviour by the British Broadcasting Corporation during the Wales v England six nations match yesterday, Sonja McLaughlin to my mind tried to trigger both captains and both coaches into saying England was robbed, I think she even used the word robbed to one of them.
See has apparently tweeted that she is sitting in her car crying at the alleged online abuse she is taking, she should not suffer online abuse that is wrong but she is deserving of criticism, as is the Beeb regarding the match.
Wales won far and square (by 16pts), Bigger did not signal a kick at goal and when the ref put his arm up and blew the whistle he played on, it was England's fault.
Zammit fumbled the ball and instantly reacted like he had blown a try, but the ball was behind him and an England player inadvertently knocked it towards his own try-line and Wales scored, as soon as I seen the reply I said it was a try, I knew the ref would have to talk it through with the tmo and it was likely to be a try, although if it had not been given I would not have argued.
The final pass for Watson's try for England looked forward but they never checked it.
Itoje for England should have seen yellow for persistent infringements.
There was no robbery, Wales won fair and square.
The commentators were wrong and the ref right on so many occasions, Jonathan Davies was a disgrace saying the ref was MOTM and going on about there are no knock-on's in this particular game etc, underlined by Hardy getting down the wing and being tackled by the last man with the ball flying forward over the England try-line and they started the knock-on nonsence when the reply showed the England defender punched the ball over his own try-line in the tackle, Butler realised at the last minute and moved on as ironically there was a knock-on earlier on and they went back for that.
Will English rugby and the English media now try and ruin the refs career, unfortunately i would not put it past them. |  |
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| BBC a disgrace on 16:35 - Feb 28 with 1031 views | londonlisa2001 |
| BBC a disgrace on 16:22 - Feb 28 by Treforys_Jack |
Always enjoy beating England in anything to be fair especially when there's a bit of controversy. The knock on try was a very unusual set of circumstances which needed viewing a couple of times to ascertain what actually happened. Definitely the correct decision prevailed.
Lisa, whilst we are generally talking about female interviewers/commentators have you heard Jayne Ludlow on BBC radio Wales, her analysis puts a lot of ex pros to shame, excellent. [Post edited 28 Feb 2021 16:23]
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Yes, I have heard her quite a few times now.
I find her very good indeed. Thoughtful, rather than the same old platitudes and seems to be an intelligent tactician.
Phenomenal athlete. Welsh international at three sports and British record holder at a junior age group in triple jump as well. Incredible.
I wonder if she will be given a chance at coaching in the men’s game. It would be very interesting. She’s still only in her early 40s so it may happen. Would be an amazing appointment to look after an academy team as a starting point. |  | | |
| BBC a disgrace on 16:36 - Feb 28 with 1031 views | Treforys_Jack |
| BBC a disgrace on 16:34 - Feb 28 by trampie |
I campaigned for her to get the Swansea City managers job on here when Cooper got it. |
She certainly knows her stuff. |  | | |
| BBC a disgrace on 17:58 - Feb 28 with 979 views | britferry |
1) the first try, England had plenty of time to set up their defence, to the right a player ran to the wing followed by 2 others and were in position to defend, the other side, George Ford & Anthony Watson turn their backs and walked away to their positions and got caught napping, I posted this video yesterday on the 6 nations thread, stop it at 25 secs
2) 100% a knock-on, if the ball hits your torso or arms and goes forward on to your legs without touching the floor, then its a knock-on. If someone kicks a ball to you and the ball slips past your belly and you end up catching it on your thighs, then its a knock-on.
3) the abuse the interviewer is getting is wrong, she was just doing her job, trying to provoke a reaction, lets be honest, she asked the questions we wanted... seeing Owen Farrell's face was better than the scoreline
Nigel Owens on Scrum V at 7pm, see what he says, he knows his stuff. Loved his interview with Jiffy yesterday, classic line "so when did you decide to come out and become a referee" [Post edited 28 Feb 2021 18:03]
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| BBC a disgrace on 18:09 - Feb 28 with 962 views | max936 |
| BBC a disgrace on 17:58 - Feb 28 by britferry |
1) the first try, England had plenty of time to set up their defence, to the right a player ran to the wing followed by 2 others and were in position to defend, the other side, George Ford & Anthony Watson turn their backs and walked away to their positions and got caught napping, I posted this video yesterday on the 6 nations thread, stop it at 25 secs
2) 100% a knock-on, if the ball hits your torso or arms and goes forward on to your legs without touching the floor, then its a knock-on. If someone kicks a ball to you and the ball slips past your belly and you end up catching it on your thighs, then its a knock-on.
3) the abuse the interviewer is getting is wrong, she was just doing her job, trying to provoke a reaction, lets be honest, she asked the questions we wanted... seeing Owen Farrell's face was better than the scoreline
Nigel Owens on Scrum V at 7pm, see what he says, he knows his stuff. Loved his interview with Jiffy yesterday, classic line "so when did you decide to come out and become a referee" [Post edited 28 Feb 2021 18:03]
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Owens is brilliant and honest, cracking story involving his parents when he was coming out, his oldman didn't get it one bit, brilliant  |  |
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| BBC a disgrace on 18:59 - Feb 28 with 926 views | trampie |
| BBC a disgrace on 17:58 - Feb 28 by britferry |
1) the first try, England had plenty of time to set up their defence, to the right a player ran to the wing followed by 2 others and were in position to defend, the other side, George Ford & Anthony Watson turn their backs and walked away to their positions and got caught napping, I posted this video yesterday on the 6 nations thread, stop it at 25 secs
2) 100% a knock-on, if the ball hits your torso or arms and goes forward on to your legs without touching the floor, then its a knock-on. If someone kicks a ball to you and the ball slips past your belly and you end up catching it on your thighs, then its a knock-on.
3) the abuse the interviewer is getting is wrong, she was just doing her job, trying to provoke a reaction, lets be honest, she asked the questions we wanted... seeing Owen Farrell's face was better than the scoreline
Nigel Owens on Scrum V at 7pm, see what he says, he knows his stuff. Loved his interview with Jiffy yesterday, classic line "so when did you decide to come out and become a referee" [Post edited 28 Feb 2021 18:03]
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Owens will take the side of the Beeb and England his rugby career is coming to an end, I can see him doing more media work and he won't want to upset the powers that be, ask Scarlet fans about him when they play the Ospreys, they say he doesn't give them any 50-50s not to seem bias, tonight might be the same. | |
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| BBC a disgrace on 19:03 - Feb 28 with 920 views | Joe_bradshaw |
| BBC a disgrace on 18:59 - Feb 28 by trampie |
Owens will take the side of the Beeb and England his rugby career is coming to an end, I can see him doing more media work and he won't want to upset the powers that be, ask Scarlet fans about him when they play the Ospreys, they say he doesn't give them any 50-50s not to seem bias, tonight might be the same. |
He's not sponsored by Specsavers any more so he can't see what he's looking at now. |  |
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| BBC a disgrace on 19:30 - Feb 28 with 906 views | Treforys_Jack |
| BBC a disgrace on 18:59 - Feb 28 by trampie |
Owens will take the side of the Beeb and England his rugby career is coming to an end, I can see him doing more media work and he won't want to upset the powers that be, ask Scarlet fans about him when they play the Ospreys, they say he doesn't give them any 50-50s not to seem bias, tonight might be the same. |
Scarlets fans are notoriously one eyed. | | | |
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| BBC a disgrace on 19:49 - Feb 28 with 887 views | trampie |
| BBC a disgrace on 19:30 - Feb 28 by Treforys_Jack |
Scarlets fans are notoriously one eyed. |
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| BBC a disgrace on 20:00 - Feb 28 with 875 views | Fireboy2 |
| BBC a disgrace on 17:58 - Feb 28 by britferry |
1) the first try, England had plenty of time to set up their defence, to the right a player ran to the wing followed by 2 others and were in position to defend, the other side, George Ford & Anthony Watson turn their backs and walked away to their positions and got caught napping, I posted this video yesterday on the 6 nations thread, stop it at 25 secs
2) 100% a knock-on, if the ball hits your torso or arms and goes forward on to your legs without touching the floor, then its a knock-on. If someone kicks a ball to you and the ball slips past your belly and you end up catching it on your thighs, then its a knock-on.
3) the abuse the interviewer is getting is wrong, she was just doing her job, trying to provoke a reaction, lets be honest, she asked the questions we wanted... seeing Owen Farrell's face was better than the scoreline
Nigel Owens on Scrum V at 7pm, see what he says, he knows his stuff. Loved his interview with Jiffy yesterday, classic line "so when did you decide to come out and become a referee" [Post edited 28 Feb 2021 18:03]
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1.The ref stopped the clock so farrell could speak to his team, biggar asked the ref if would start the clock which he did but I'm certain that he should have told farrell as well but ateotd you never take your eye off the attacking team when you are defending penalties.
2. Every rugby player will say its a knock on all day every day and night BUT the rule in ru says if the ball hits a part of your body after you touch it then it hits the ground it doesn't count as a knock on whilst in rugby league it does, baffling.
Ateotd they came back from those decisions to draw level but then let themselves down through ill discipline and our boys playing well. |  | | |
| BBC a disgrace on 21:00 - Feb 28 with 851 views | Fireboy2 |
It doesn't say in that link what they said on the BBC yesterday, wtf did they get that from then? | | | |
| BBC a disgrace on 21:11 - Feb 28 with 840 views | Catullus |
| BBC a disgrace on 21:00 - Feb 28 by Fireboy2 |
It doesn't say in that link what they said on the BBC yesterday, wtf did they get that from then? |
Seems it not only us football fans who don't know the rules  | |
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| BBC a disgrace on 21:47 - Feb 28 with 827 views | pikeypaul |
If you take a look at the replay the moment the ref tells Farrell to have a word with his players they have already formed a huddle under the posts expecting Dan to go for the 3.
All this BS they should have been given time to reset is nonsense since it was them who took up the position BEFORE te ref said have a word and at no time did we indicate we were going for the 3.
Even Owen the ref got it wrong on scrum 5 this evening saying the huddle was formed so Farrell could talk to them all, wrong they formed the huddle under the posts before the ref said a word to him, take a look at it. |  |
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| BBC a disgrace on 22:00 - Feb 28 with 816 views | Fireboy2 |
| BBC a disgrace on 21:11 - Feb 28 by Catullus |
Seems it not only us football fans who don't know the rules |
When I played union you had no idea how the ref would interpret the rules, you just worked it out as the game went on whereas when I played league it was far simpler to understand but far harder to play.
The problem with union is there are too many rules and interpretations of those rules, even the supposed experts don't know the rules. | | | |
| BBC a disgrace on 23:07 - Feb 28 with 794 views | max936 |
| BBC a disgrace on 20:00 - Feb 28 by Fireboy2 |
1.The ref stopped the clock so farrell could speak to his team, biggar asked the ref if would start the clock which he did but I'm certain that he should have told farrell as well but ateotd you never take your eye off the attacking team when you are defending penalties.
2. Every rugby player will say its a knock on all day every day and night BUT the rule in ru says if the ball hits a part of your body after you touch it then it hits the ground it doesn't count as a knock on whilst in rugby league it does, baffling.
Ateotd they came back from those decisions to draw level but then let themselves down through ill discipline and our boys playing well. |
My view at the time, rightly or wrongly, was that the pass from Williams was fine, LRZ over ran the ball, he failed to gather it, but at no time did the ball actually go forward it went back dropped and hit his leg and went back on to the England players knee and went forward.
Another one about ball going forward, how often do you see a player knock the ball forward when trying to catch it in the air, but then manages to regather the ball, yet the Ref blows up for a forward pass. | |
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| BBC a disgrace on 07:52 - Mar 1 with 724 views | britferry |
| BBC a disgrace on 21:47 - Feb 28 by pikeypaul |
If you take a look at the replay the moment the ref tells Farrell to have a word with his players they have already formed a huddle under the posts expecting Dan to go for the 3.
All this BS they should have been given time to reset is nonsense since it was them who took up the position BEFORE te ref said have a word and at no time did we indicate we were going for the 3.
Even Owen the ref got it wrong on scrum 5 this evening saying the huddle was formed so Farrell could talk to them all, wrong they formed the huddle under the posts before the ref said a word to him, take a look at it. |
I noticed that too, they even had the water carriers on, thats no way to defend a penalty 15m from your own line... Sean Edwards would have castrated them | |
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| BBC a disgrace on 09:20 - Mar 1 with 693 views | pikeypaul |
| BBC a disgrace on 07:52 - Mar 1 by britferry |
I noticed that too, they even had the water carriers on, thats no way to defend a penalty 15m from your own line... Sean Edwards would have castrated them |
Thank you,Iam glad someone else noticed that too.
Once that is pointed out all arguments about allowing them to reset are thrown out.
Even the so called best ref in the world Owen failed to pick it up.Its clear they expected Dan to go for the 3,otherwise why were their water carriers (illegally) on the pitch?. Its only the beneficieries of a penalty that are allowed that and to make subsitutions at that time. [Post edited 1 Mar 2021 9:24]
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| BBC a disgrace on 10:14 - Mar 1 with 667 views | Fireboy2 |
| BBC a disgrace on 09:20 - Mar 1 by pikeypaul |
Thank you,Iam glad someone else noticed that too.
Once that is pointed out all arguments about allowing them to reset are thrown out.
Even the so called best ref in the world Owen failed to pick it up.Its clear they expected Dan to go for the 3,otherwise why were their water carriers (illegally) on the pitch?. Its only the beneficieries of a penalty that are allowed that and to make subsitutions at that time. [Post edited 1 Mar 2021 9:24]
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This passage of play coupled with hardys try shows tha pivacs ultimate gameplan is starting to pay dividends, when I played and coached I always preached to play to what is in front of you and it looks like pivac likes the same mentality. | | | |
| BBC a disgrace on 10:35 - Mar 1 with 659 views | Joe_bradshaw |
| BBC a disgrace on 21:47 - Feb 28 by pikeypaul |
If you take a look at the replay the moment the ref tells Farrell to have a word with his players they have already formed a huddle under the posts expecting Dan to go for the 3.
All this BS they should have been given time to reset is nonsense since it was them who took up the position BEFORE te ref said have a word and at no time did we indicate we were going for the 3.
Even Owen the ref got it wrong on scrum 5 this evening saying the huddle was formed so Farrell could talk to them all, wrong they formed the huddle under the posts before the ref said a word to him, take a look at it. |
Good spot Pike and it shows the mentality of the English team. In some ways it’s a pity that the ref told him to have a word because otherwise he’d have just blown for the penalty to be taken with the same result and unquestionable egg all over English faces.
That mentality showed up again for Hardy’s try when England decided to call a team sleep over after conceding yet another penalty and made the same mistake. | |
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| BBC a disgrace on 10:58 - Mar 1 with 653 views | pikeypaul |
| BBC a disgrace on 10:35 - Mar 1 by Joe_bradshaw |
Good spot Pike and it shows the mentality of the English team. In some ways it’s a pity that the ref told him to have a word because otherwise he’d have just blown for the penalty to be taken with the same result and unquestionable egg all over English faces.
That mentality showed up again for Hardy’s try when England decided to call a team sleep over after conceding yet another penalty and made the same mistake. |
Yes,Daly walking with his back to play towards the underneath of the posts once again expecting us to go for the 3. | |
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| BBC a disgrace on 12:48 - Mar 1 with 629 views | CountyJim |
| BBC a disgrace on 22:00 - Feb 28 by Fireboy2 |
When I played union you had no idea how the ref would interpret the rules, you just worked it out as the game went on whereas when I played league it was far simpler to understand but far harder to play.
The problem with union is there are too many rules and interpretations of those rules, even the supposed experts don't know the rules. |
When I worked in the steel works I worked with a Rugby ref who was at a decent standard I was a Welsh league football ref I showed him the law's of the game of football he couldn't believe how small the book was his exact words where is that part 1 
Football really is a simple game where as peanut hugging  |  | | |
| BBC a disgrace on 13:25 - Mar 1 with 606 views | onehunglow |
| BBC a disgrace on 12:36 - Feb 28 by Gwyn737 |
Just rewatched the post match interviews, and apart from asking Alun-Wyn whether he should have intervened with the ref after the Adams try (which was a really daft question), I though she asked the questions that needed to be asked.
Brian Moore is a superb colour commentator - best out there by a mile in my opinion. Unbiased and generous with his praise.
Still, none of the controversy has marred my celebrations. I’m having to carbo load after a good drink last night. |
Bulldog is a straightforward man and pundit.
His says it a it is.
Wales had the fortune in two decisions.
Looking at trampie ,we see the hate that turns Welsh people away from the idea of full independence because bigots like Tramps poion the whole of Wales as regards how Wales is seen by the world,,which is insular,inferiotity complex,schism in which language to bitch in
Farrell had every right to feel indignant and Sonia was looking for a bite in the three interviews she did.Naughty Sonia.
England imploded and Wales were savvy.Pivac has upped the ante.
That said,after our game ,the world seemed a darker place and the TC didnt mean a much as it normally does. | |
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| BBC a disgrace on 13:36 - Mar 1 with 606 views | Fireboy2 |
| BBC a disgrace on 10:58 - Mar 1 by pikeypaul |
Yes,Daly walking with his back to play towards the underneath of the posts once again expecting us to go for the 3. |
Thats the difference between a good player and a great one, imagine us doing that with Edwards in charge 
On another point, how good was it to see AWJ performing so well and itoje showing his inexperience, I think that if AWJ keeps this form up he's nailed on to be the lions skipper and therefore a starting spot. | | | |
| BBC a disgrace on 13:55 - Mar 1 with 588 views | onehunglow |
| BBC a disgrace on 13:36 - Mar 1 by Fireboy2 |
Thats the difference between a good player and a great one, imagine us doing that with Edwards in charge
On another point, how good was it to see AWJ performing so well and itoje showing his inexperience, I think that if AWJ keeps this form up he's nailed on to be the lions skipper and therefore a starting spot. |
Eddie.
You need to check out .The Rugby codebreaker.First shown last year.
Boston,Roy Francis and Jim Sullivan all covered in an excellent and shaming programme on Wales and Welsh Rugby,indeed the people who turned their backs on those working class lads who went north to get paid for their talent.
Jim Mills is simply box office. | |
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