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Covid variant B.1.1.529 11:00 - Nov 26 with 11916 views

This latest covid variant sounds potentially serious, will there be a full lockdown by xmas ?, Blues and Scarlets trying to get back from SA, stock markets are crashing, will football be behind closed doors again ?, let's hope it's not as bad as some fear it could be.

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Covid variant B.1.1.529 on 19:57 - Nov 26 with 1235 views

A_Fans_Dad

Covid variant B.1.1.529 on 17:33 - Nov 26 by Catullus
had mine on Wednesday. In SA the new cases found had more than tripled in the space of a week from less than 800 a day to 2,495 a day and we don't know how many there actually are in the townships out there, it's a lot different to over here. I see some people are still spreading lies and misinformation, sad.

No they don't know what it is like in the townships as they do not know the actual percentage with the new variant.
The News proaganda scaremongering said one thing and the scientists said something completely different, ie they don't know and it is going to to take a few weeks to gather and analyse enough data to find out what the real affects will be.
You do get that 2,495 compared to our 47,000 per day?

Well you have made the accusation, now it time to back it up.
Let's here the lies and misinformation, with links to the correct information.

Covid variant B.1.1.529 on 21:03 - Nov 26 with 1197 views

majorraglan

Covid variant B.1.1.529 on 11:55 - Nov 26 by max936
Had my 2nd jab 6 months to the day, just phoned up about my booster and I got to wait for letter, my youngest who is clinically vulnerable hasn't had his either and he had his 2nd jab in April, he has got his next Saturday though.

Max, take your son down to the Mass Vaccination Centre and when you’re there ask if there’s any chance you and your wife can have it too? Explain you’re his carers, the vulnerability issues and they use might give you your boosters if the dates are tight. Defo worth a try.

Covid variant B.1.1.529 on 21:10 - Nov 26 with 1194 views

majorraglan

Covid variant B.1.1.529 on 12:13 - Nov 26 by EagleEye
There are delays with the booster jab in Wales as NHS Wales sent out thousands of appointment letters with appointment times but no dates … you couldn’t make it up. Whereas across the border if you are over 40 you can ring up & book the booster

You are right about the letters with no dates ....... shambles. What they did to compensate for that down our way was open the centres to drop ins who were eligible to have the jabs. The MVC’s were inundated and dispensed more vaccines on those days than they would have had there been scheduled appointments.
People in the 40 to 50 group will in theory be able to book the appointments soon, but in reality a significant number of the 40 to 50 year olds won’t be eligible to have the vaccine as they won’t 5 months plus and able to have it. Wales is probably a little further down the track than England in terms of numbers vaccinated.

Covid variant B.1.1.529 on 21:15 - Nov 26 with 1180 views

Boundy

Covid variant B.1.1.529 on 21:10 - Nov 26 by majorraglan

I'm early 60's and I'm having the booster on Sunday . I was informed by text and letter which both arrived the same day so in fairness that's pretty efficient

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Covid variant B.1.1.529 on 21:21 - Nov 26 with 1157 views

onehunglow

Covid variant B.1.1.529 on 21:15 - Nov 26 by Boundy
I'm early 60's and I'm having the booster on Sunday . I was informed by text and letter which both arrived the same day so in fairness that's pretty efficient

Good man.

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Covid variant B.1.1.529 on 21:24 - Nov 26 with 1161 views

majorraglan

Covid variant B.1.1.529 on 21:15 - Nov 26 by Boundy
I'm early 60's and I'm having the booster on Sunday . I was informed by text and letter which both arrived the same day so in fairness that's pretty efficient

They’re doing the text and letter in some places as a belt and braces approach to get things moving, I have no idea as to why the letters went out without dates but suspect it was a computer error following upgrades re the new letters.

I know someone who works in an MVC and they’ve been telephony people up who may not have had the letters and inviting them in.

Covid variant B.1.1.529 on 21:33 - Nov 26 with 1156 views

Sirjohnalot

Covid variant B.1.1.529 on 21:21 - Nov 26 by onehunglow
Good man. We need to make sure anti Vader’s are marginalised

Wife and I have our booked on NYE. Had our flu jab last month. Going to be a tough winter ahead.

Covid variant B.1.1.529 on 21:35 - Nov 26 with 1145 views

onehunglow

Covid variant B.1.1.529 on 21:33 - Nov 26 by Sirjohnalot
Wife and I have our booked on NYE. Had our flu jab last month. Going to be a tough winter ahead.

My missus has surgery in a fortnight .
Just as well she s had the booster.

And we wonder why ALL NHS should not be faxed.

It is everywhere and can kill anyone

Denial is criminal

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Covid variant B.1.1.529 on 21:37 - Nov 26 with 1138 views

A_Fans_Dad

Covid variant B.1.1.529 on 19:28 - Nov 26 by A_Fans_Dad

There isn't enough room on the leaflet to list all the Pfizer side affects.
Didn't you read what they said 1108 seperate Adverse Events.

Here is the first page.
1p36 deletion syndrome;2-Hydroxyglutaric aciduria;5'nucleotidase increased;Acoustic
neuritis;Acquired C1 inhibitor deficiency;Acquired epidermolysis bullosa;Acquired epileptic
aphasia;Acute cutaneous lupus erythematosus;Acute disseminated encephalomyelitis;Acute
encephalitis with refractory, repetitive partial seizures;Acute febrile neutrophilic

dermatosis;Acute flaccid myelitis;Acute haemorrhagic leukoencephalitis;Acute
haemorrhagic oedema of infancy;Acute kidney injury;Acute macular outer retinopathy;Acute
motor axonal neuropathy;Acute motor-sensory axonal neuropathy;Acute myocardial
infarction;Acute respiratory distress syndrome;Acute respiratory failure;Addison's
disease;Administration site thrombosis;Administration site vasculitis;Adrenal

thrombosis;Adverse event following immunisation;Ageusia;Agranulocytosis;Air
embolism;Alanine aminotransferase abnormal;Alanine aminotransferase increased;Alcoholic

seizure;Allergic bronchopulmonary mycosis;Allergic oedema;Alloimmune
hepatitis;Alopecia areata;Alpers disease;Alveolar proteinosis;Ammonia abnormal;Ammonia

increased;Amniotic cavity infection;Amygdalohippocampectomy;Amyloid
arthropathy;Amyloidosis;Amyloidosis senile;Anaphylactic reaction;Anaphylactic
shock;Anaphylactic transfusion reaction;Anaphylactoid reaction;Anaphylactoid
shock;Anaphylactoid syndrome of pregnancy;Angioedema;Angiopathic

neuropathy;Ankylosing spondylitis;Anosmia;Antiacetylcholine receptor antibody
positive;Anti-actin antibody positive;Anti-aquaporin-4 antibody positive;Anti-basal ganglia

antibody positive;Anti-cyclic citrullinated peptide antibody positive;Anti-epithelial antibody
positive;Anti-erythrocyte antibody positive;Anti-exosome complex antibody positive;Anti-
GAD antibody negative;Anti-GAD antibody positive;Anti-ganglioside antibody
positive;Antigliadin antibody positive;Anti-glomerular basement membrane antibody
positive;Anti-glomerular basement membrane disease;Anti-glycyl-tRNA synthetase antibody
positive;Anti-HLA antibody test positive;Anti-IA2 antibody positive;Anti-insulin antibody
increased;Anti-insulin antibody positive;Anti-insulin receptor antibody increased;Anti-
insulin receptor antibody positive;Anti-interferon antibody negative;Anti-interferon antibody
positive;Anti-islet cell antibody positive;Antimitochondrial antibody positive;Anti-muscle
specific kinase antibody positive;Anti-myelin-associated glycoprotein antibodies
positive;Anti-myelin-associated glycoprotein associated polyneuropathy;Antimyocardial
antibody positive;Anti-neuronal antibody positive;Antineutrophil cytoplasmic antibody
increased;Antineutrophil cytoplasmic antibody positive;Anti-neutrophil cytoplasmic
antibody positive vasculitis;Anti-NMDA antibody positive;Antinuclear antibody
increased;Antinuclear antibody positive;Antiphospholipid antibodies
positive;Antiphospholipid syndrome;Anti-platelet antibody positive;Anti-prothrombin

antibody positive;Antiribosomal P antibody positive;Anti-RNA polymerase III antibody

positive;Anti-saccharomyces cerevisiae antibody test positive;Anti-sperm antibody

positive;Anti-SRP antibody positive;Antisynthetase syndrome;Anti-thyroid antibody
positive;Anti-transglutaminase antibody increased;Anti-VGCC antibody positive;Anti-

VGKC antibody positive;Anti-vimentin antibody positive;Antiviral prophylaxis;Antiviral
treatment;Anti-zinc transporter 8 antibody positive;Aortic embolus;Aortic
thrombosis;Aortitis;Aplasia pure red cell;Aplastic anaemia;Application site
thrombosis;Application site vasculitis;Arrhythmia;Arterial bypass occlusion;Arterial bypass
thrombosis;Arterial thrombosis;Arteriovenous fistula thrombosis;Arteriovenous graft site

stenosis;Arteriovenous graft thrombosis;Arteritis;Arteritis

Correction the 9 page list is the
LIST OF ADVERSE EVENTS OF SPECIAL INTERESt

Covid variant B.1.1.529 on 21:46 - Nov 26 with 1135 views

Scotia

Covid variant B.1.1.529 on 19:40 - Nov 26 by A_Fans_Dad
You didn't really bother reading what I wrote did you? The difference started back in April 2021, just how many people do you thimk had been vaccinated by then? I also pointed out that it hasn't changes all year, so the numbers vaxxed did not change the level of the difference. You also seem to be forgetting that this is the under 60s group. [Post edited 26 Nov 2021 19:42]

I didn't bother reading really. You don't make any sense.

None of that makes any difference.

Covid variant B.1.1.529 on 22:00 - Nov 26 with 1126 views

Brynmill_Jack

Covid variant B.1.1.529 on 17:46 - Nov 26 by max936
My brother had it and was ill for virtually 10 days, he still hasn't got any taste or smell and he's had two jabs, without those jabs, the outcome might have been much different.

Or maybe without the spike proteins inside him he might not have caught it mate.

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Covid variant B.1.1.529 on 22:31 - Nov 26 with 1099 views

A_Fans_Dad

Covid variant B.1.1.529 on 21:46 - Nov 26 by Scotia
I didn't bother reading really. You don't make any sense. None of that makes any difference.

Like I have said you don't do numbers very well.

Covid variant B.1.1.529 on 23:00 - Nov 26 with 1087 views

YouBackJastard

Covid variant B.1.1.529 on 19:28 - Nov 26 by A_Fans_Dad

I took the spooky scary vaccine and now my skin glows in the dark!!

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Covid variant B.1.1.529 on 23:22 - Nov 26 with 1059 views

KeithHaynes

Covid variant B.1.1.529 on 11:07 - Nov 26 by RonaldStump
ignore it. Turn the telebox off DO NOT comply and live a normal life without any fear. End of convid

There is a thing called Covid.
There is also a thing called govts using it to control you and implant fear in your lives.

That’s it.,

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Covid variant B.1.1.529 on 23:27 - Nov 26 with 1054 views

Badlands

Covid variant B.1.1.529 on 12:13 - Nov 26 by EagleEye
There are delays with the booster jab in Wales as NHS Wales sent out thousands of appointment letters with appointment times but no dates … you couldn’t make it up. Whereas across the border if you are over 40 you can ring up & book the booster

Each health board is responsible for the roll out not Wales, Wales NHS or the Senedd.
Two weeks notice for a booster 6 calendar months to the day from 2nd jab!
When did the dateless letters go out?

[Post edited 26 Nov 2021 23:32]

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Covid variant B.1.1.529 on 23:35 - Nov 26 with 1045 views

Badlands

Covid variant B.1.1.529 on 23:00 - Nov 26 by YouBackJastard
I took the spooky scary vaccine and now my skin glows in the dark!!

I took the spooky scary vaccine, wore a mask kept my distance and washed my hands and now I feel better than I have in decades and no sogn of covidðŸ‘

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Covid variant B.1.1.529 on 00:12 - Nov 27 with 1030 views

ReslovenSwan1

The new information comes from the WHO not the Government. The WHO do not recommend drastic action just the normal stuff of personal discipline, mask wearing ventilation and hand washing. Not even travel bans.

The new variant could be positive if it is more transmissible but less virulent. Only a couple of weeks old so awaiting details. Not exacty sure of the science but it has 32 mutations. Once commentator thinks h it has developed in a man already suffering from untreated AID HIV is south Africa.

It supports the WHO position that giving the Covid injections in rich national alone will not work.

The Covid mutations if too great needs a new vaccine. It seems like a key fitting a lock. 32 new 'spike' mutations might require the vaccine 'key' to have more notches in it. A bit more than going back to Timpsons for a wire brush treatment.

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Covid variant B.1.1.529 on 00:24 - Nov 27 with 1027 views

Jack123

My initial feelings over this, are it's a load of Bollo***, the media certainly seem to be ramping up the fear of it..

On every channel today, basically all saying this could get nasty.? It could well be, but from what I have seen nobody gives a hoot no more,

You could even have the black death coming in scare wise , and the majority fed up of this covid lark, will say Thank you very much,, we will have you, that's the point, I feel the majority of people have reached.

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Covid variant B.1.1.529 on 05:58 - Nov 27 with 982 views

RonaldStump

Covid variant B.1.1.529 on 21:21 - Nov 26 by onehunglow
Good man. We need to make sure anti Vader’s are marginalised

You're on the wrong side of history. Try and marginalise us all you like. You will NEVER succeed. We'll be there until we win back our freedom from the tyrants. Those freedoms that are not the governments to give and take as they please. If blood needs to be spilled to win this fight for future generations then so be it.

grow a pair of balls

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Covid variant B.1.1.529 on 06:15 - Nov 27 with 977 views

RonaldStump

Covid variant B.1.1.529 on 23:22 - Nov 26 by KeithHaynes
There is a thing called Covid. There is also a thing called govts using it to control you and implant fear in your lives. That’s it.,

I totally agree.
never have denied it exists despite the lack of conclusive evidence.
It's a nastier version of influenza and for vulnerable people the elderly and those with comorbidities it can be fatal. Just like the influenza and really any other virus.

I also agree the government is using it to control and spread fear, which is what we are trying to wake people up to.

Protect the old and vulnerable and let the healthy people live their lives, stop with the papers and stripping fellow human beings of the rights they were born with.

Thankfully the government has tried to go too fast too quickly and many many people are waking up to it on a daily basis. more and more Jabbed and unjabbed people are putting differences aside and fighting for their freedoms and those of many future generation to come against the real virus which is the corporations running the countries and the media and their unconsciousness programing

Not if but when the division stops we win the battle..

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Covid variant B.1.1.529 on 06:17 - Nov 27 with 976 views

RonaldStump

Covid variant B.1.1.529 on 23:35 - Nov 26 by Badlands
I took the spooky scary vaccine, wore a mask kept my distance and washed my hands and now I feel better than I have in decades and no sogn of covidðŸ‘

never worn a mask never locked myself in, never stopped working, never took the jab. never let the media government or sage marxists pump me full of fear. I've carried on with my life and even done a bit of travelling and two years in i'm as fit and healthy as i was prior to Covid ...funny that

[Post edited 27 Nov 2021 6:22]

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Covid variant B.1.1.529 on 09:23 - Nov 27 with 942 views

felixstowe_jack

Covid variant B.1.1.529 on 06:17 - Nov 27 by RonaldStump
never worn a mask never locked myself in, never stopped working, never took the jab. never let the media government or sage marxists pump me full of fear. I've carried on with my life and even done a bit of travelling and two years in i'm as fit and healthy as i was prior to Covid ...funny that [Post edited 27 Nov 2021 6:22]

It does seem to have affected your health in other ways though.

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Covid variant B.1.1.529 on 10:31 - Nov 27 with 918 views

RonaldStump

Covid variant B.1.1.529 on 09:23 - Nov 27 by felixstowe_jack
It does seem to have affected your health in other ways though.

Care to enlighten me Dr Felix

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Covid variant B.1.1.529 on 11:35 - Nov 27 with 895 views

Catullus

Covid variant B.1.1.529 on 22:00 - Nov 26 by Brynmill_Jack
Or maybe without the spike proteins inside him he might not have caught it mate.

I'll need the Prof to put this straight but isn't the spike protein how the virus attacks you, if you come into contact with covid the virus will try and attach itself to your cells using the spike protein it carries itself. The vaccine teaches the T cell how to respond. That is why not having the vaccine is worse, because your T cells do not know how to respond and it's why the unvaccinated catch covid too. The big difference is the unvaccinated can be at much greater risk of serious illness.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/hea

In that link there is a picture, think of those red cells as covid cells and the blue arms sticking out of them as protein spikes, I think.

Hey Prof, help me out.

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Covid variant B.1.1.529 on 12:39 - Nov 27 with 869 views

Professor

Covid variant B.1.1.529 on 11:35 - Nov 27 by Catullus

Yes Cat. ALL coronaviruses use spike proteins to attach and invade host cells. As such, and as surface expressed protein of the virus it’s a good immune target. It does not change that much- these are relatively small mutations, so a good vaccine target. We do know it will change offer time (50 years of vaccines for avian coronas) and the antigen needs to be updated. If omicron becomes a widespread issue (not all variants of concern have), then look at a new vaccine version for a booster next year. In the meantime the most sensible thing is to get a booster and wear a mask on public .

One point - viruses don’t have a cellular structure.
They are just nucleic acid surrounded by protein (capsid/coat) and lack a membrane that all cellular organisms have (including bacteria). Better called virions or particles. Some question whether they are truly alive.

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