| 40% of 'Covid Patients' in Hospital for Something Else 13:49 - Jan 7 with 10664 views | JACKMANANDBOY |
The operational definitions around Covid need to be revised. A 40% incease would account for the increase in hospitalisations in Wales since early December.
Death figures are also going to be inflated.
https://www.england.nhs.uk/sta [Post edited 7 Jan 2022 13:51]
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| 40% of 'Covid Patients' in Hospital for Something Else on 14:11 - Jan 22 with 1167 views | A_Fans_Dad |
| 40% of 'Covid Patients' in Hospital for Something Else on 13:17 - Jan 22 by Scotia |
Because age is the variable.
The other is per 100000 people. The are no subcategories.
Of course you're welcome to prove that there are. You've downloaded the data to give others the information, so let's see it. |
You just don't get it, the age groups are just that, Vacinated or not is the other part of the group and the variable within the group we are interested in.
This is my last response on the subject of rates.
You can talk to yourself. |  | | |
| 40% of 'Covid Patients' in Hospital for Something Else on 14:52 - Jan 22 with 1157 views | Scotia |
| 40% of 'Covid Patients' in Hospital for Something Else on 14:11 - Jan 22 by A_Fans_Dad |
You just don't get it, the age groups are just that, Vacinated or not is the other part of the group and the variable within the group we are interested in.
This is my last response on the subject of rates.
You can talk to yourself. |
"Of course you're welcome to prove that there are. You've downloaded the data to give others the information, so let's see it."
Come on AFD. You've downloaded the data it shouldn't take long. Of course you won't be able to if I'm correct. I am correct.
No the other variable is people. Per 100,000. Not vaccinated or unvaccinated or ginger or women or penguins or cars or dogs. Just people. | | | |
| 40% of 'Covid Patients' in Hospital for Something Else on 09:19 - Jan 23 with 1107 views | Professor |
| 40% of 'Covid Patients' in Hospital for Something Else on 14:52 - Jan 22 by Scotia |
"Of course you're welcome to prove that there are. You've downloaded the data to give others the information, so let's see it."
Come on AFD. You've downloaded the data it shouldn't take long. Of course you won't be able to if I'm correct. I am correct.
No the other variable is people. Per 100,000. Not vaccinated or unvaccinated or ginger or women or penguins or cars or dogs. Just people. |
What’s also being missed is that child hospitalisation rates are now more than double at any other point in the pandemic. Under 12s not vaccinated and many without full course. Now largely an infection of kids in the UK | | | |
| 40% of 'Covid Patients' in Hospital for Something Else on 15:07 - Jan 23 with 1070 views | A_Fans_Dad |
| 40% of 'Covid Patients' in Hospital for Something Else on 09:19 - Jan 23 by Professor |
What’s also being missed is that child hospitalisation rates are now more than double at any other point in the pandemic. Under 12s not vaccinated and many without full course. Now largely an infection of kids in the UK |
Are you actually suggesting that scotia is correct about rates? | | | |
| 40% of 'Covid Patients' in Hospital for Something Else on 15:29 - Jan 23 with 1055 views | Scotia |
| 40% of 'Covid Patients' in Hospital for Something Else on 15:07 - Jan 23 by A_Fans_Dad |
Are you actually suggesting that scotia is correct about rates? |
If the vaccine related / 100,000 rate is split between vaccinated and non vaccinated how about the hospitalisation and death rate / 100,000?
If so they'd be very heavily weighed in favour of the dead and hospitalised. | | | |
| 40% of 'Covid Patients' in Hospital for Something Else on 16:56 - Jan 23 with 1043 views | Scotia |
| 40% of 'Covid Patients' in Hospital for Something Else on 09:19 - Jan 23 by Professor |
What’s also being missed is that child hospitalisation rates are now more than double at any other point in the pandemic. Under 12s not vaccinated and many without full course. Now largely an infection of kids in the UK |
It certainly seems to be. Half of some classes in my daughters school are off with covid. They're all under 12.
A friends son also developed PIMS (I'd never heard of it before) after an asymptomatic covid infection. | | | |
| 40% of 'Covid Patients' in Hospital for Something Else on 08:28 - Jan 24 with 1010 views | Brynmill_Jack |
| 40% of 'Covid Patients' in Hospital for Something Else on 09:19 - Jan 23 by Professor |
What’s also being missed is that child hospitalisation rates are now more than double at any other point in the pandemic. Under 12s not vaccinated and many without full course. Now largely an infection of kids in the UK |
From an infection which wasn’t even touching them just one year ago.
What has sparked this terrifying increase - what’s the catalyst? |  |
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| 40% of 'Covid Patients' in Hospital for Something Else on 09:03 - Jan 24 with 998 views | Scotia |
| 40% of 'Covid Patients' in Hospital for Something Else on 08:28 - Jan 24 by Brynmill_Jack |
From an infection which wasn’t even touching them just one year ago.
What has sparked this terrifying increase - what’s the catalyst? |
We're living with virtually no restrictions, and they aren't vaccinated. | | | |
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| 40% of 'Covid Patients' in Hospital for Something Else on 09:15 - Jan 24 with 988 views | Brynmill_Jack |
| 40% of 'Covid Patients' in Hospital for Something Else on 09:03 - Jan 24 by Scotia |
We're living with virtually no restrictions, and they aren't vaccinated. |
Children have been contracting Covid throughout and the hospitalisation rate was almost zero. It was acknowledged by the science then that people under 40 would not suffer serious illness and children were thought impregnable.
More lies? Is the science not as infallible as you’ve been purporting it to be? | |
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| 40% of 'Covid Patients' in Hospital for Something Else on 09:59 - Jan 24 with 984 views | Scotia |
| 40% of 'Covid Patients' in Hospital for Something Else on 09:15 - Jan 24 by Brynmill_Jack |
Children have been contracting Covid throughout and the hospitalisation rate was almost zero. It was acknowledged by the science then that people under 40 would not suffer serious illness and children were thought impregnable.
More lies? Is the science not as infallible as you’ve been purporting it to be? |
But in nowhere near the number that are at the moment. This time last year schools were closed.
Also Omicron is far more infectious.
It was never acknowledged by science that anyone under 40 would not suffer serious illness, they may be considerably less likely to but if more people get covid more will end up seriously ill.
No lies, just misinformation. | | | |
| 40% of 'Covid Patients' in Hospital for Something Else on 13:43 - Jan 24 with 958 views | A_Fans_Dad |
| 40% of 'Covid Patients' in Hospital for Something Else on 09:15 - Jan 24 by Brynmill_Jack |
Children have been contracting Covid throughout and the hospitalisation rate was almost zero. It was acknowledged by the science then that people under 40 would not suffer serious illness and children were thought impregnable.
More lies? Is the science not as infallible as you’ve been purporting it to be? |
Yes it is very odd, double the hospitalisations with the least virulent variant of all. | | | |
| 40% of 'Covid Patients' in Hospital for Something Else on 16:18 - Jan 24 with 944 views | A_Fans_Dad |
| 40% of 'Covid Patients' in Hospital for Something Else on 09:15 - Jan 24 by Brynmill_Jack |
Children have been contracting Covid throughout and the hospitalisation rate was almost zero. It was acknowledged by the science then that people under 40 would not suffer serious illness and children were thought impregnable.
More lies? Is the science not as infallible as you’ve been purporting it to be? |
What a coincidence the swift rise in under 12 hospitalisations were exactly following the older age groups with Omicron.
They all doubled from the 19th of December to the 9th of January.
Seeing as Omicron has proved to be much milder than Delta I wonder why so many people were hospitalised for it. | | | |
| 40% of 'Covid Patients' in Hospital for Something Else on 18:34 - Jan 24 with 928 views | felixstowe_jack |
| 40% of 'Covid Patients' in Hospital for Something Else on 16:18 - Jan 24 by A_Fans_Dad |
What a coincidence the swift rise in under 12 hospitalisations were exactly following the older age groups with Omicron.
They all doubled from the 19th of December to the 9th of January.
Seeing as Omicron has proved to be much milder than Delta I wonder why so many people were hospitalised for it. |
Just seen the BBC news. In one London hospital 5 of the 6 covoid ICU beds occupied by unvaccinated patients. That from just 5% of the adult population. | |
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| 40% of 'Covid Patients' in Hospital for Something Else on 20:30 - Jan 24 with 913 views | Brynmill_Jack |
| 40% of 'Covid Patients' in Hospital for Something Else on 18:34 - Jan 24 by felixstowe_jack |
Just seen the BBC news. In one London hospital 5 of the 6 covoid ICU beds occupied by unvaccinated patients. That from just 5% of the adult population. |
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| 40% of 'Covid Patients' in Hospital for Something Else on 21:16 - Jan 24 with 892 views | howenjack |
Another fan collapsed boro/ blackburn game.
Unprecedented number now this season something is not right. | | | |
| 40% of 'Covid Patients' in Hospital for Something Else on 22:31 - Jan 24 with 874 views | Brynmill_Jack |
| 40% of 'Covid Patients' in Hospital for Something Else on 18:34 - Jan 24 by felixstowe_jack |
Just seen the BBC news. In one London hospital 5 of the 6 covoid ICU beds occupied by unvaccinated patients. That from just 5% of the adult population. |
I just saw Clive Myries report. Another completely biased piece of journalism - crowing over the bed of a victim and making him parrot “I should have had the vaccine”. He should have told him to f*ck off and mind your own business
To a doctor “are you angry about the 5 in vaccinated patients in your ward?”
C*ntish propaganda of the highest order - the last attempt to blackmail the unvaccinated. | |
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| 40% of 'Covid Patients' in Hospital for Something Else on 08:42 - Jan 25 with 850 views | Scotia |
| 40% of 'Covid Patients' in Hospital for Something Else on 22:31 - Jan 24 by Brynmill_Jack |
I just saw Clive Myries report. Another completely biased piece of journalism - crowing over the bed of a victim and making him parrot “I should have had the vaccine”. He should have told him to f*ck off and mind your own business
To a doctor “are you angry about the 5 in vaccinated patients in your ward?”
C*ntish propaganda of the highest order - the last attempt to blackmail the unvaccinated. |
Do you really think that a middle aged bloke having a breathing tube removed from his throat in ITU, who almost certainly wouldn't have been there if he'd had a vaccine, doesn't now regret his decision?
To me he just seemed happy to be alive. | | | |
| 40% of 'Covid Patients' in Hospital for Something Else on 08:54 - Jan 25 with 848 views | felixstowe_jack |
| 40% of 'Covid Patients' in Hospital for Something Else on 22:31 - Jan 24 by Brynmill_Jack |
I just saw Clive Myries report. Another completely biased piece of journalism - crowing over the bed of a victim and making him parrot “I should have had the vaccine”. He should have told him to f*ck off and mind your own business
To a doctor “are you angry about the 5 in vaccinated patients in your ward?”
C*ntish propaganda of the highest order - the last attempt to blackmail the unvaccinated. |
I think you will find 99% of the unvaccinated who end up in ICU with covoid regret not having the vaccine.
In fact I have never heard any unvaccinated person who ends up in ICU saying I am glad I was not vaccinated. | |
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| 40% of 'Covid Patients' in Hospital for Something Else on 18:54 - Jan 25 with 830 views | Brynmill_Jack |
| 40% of 'Covid Patients' in Hospital for Something Else on 08:54 - Jan 25 by felixstowe_jack |
I think you will find 99% of the unvaccinated who end up in ICU with covoid regret not having the vaccine.
In fact I have never heard any unvaccinated person who ends up in ICU saying I am glad I was not vaccinated. |
Propaganda is propaganda. Stalinesque - and you’re lapping it up. Let’s wait until the facts come out - I’m sure this saga has some surprising twists and turns left in it yet. | |
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| 40% of 'Covid Patients' in Hospital for Something Else on 22:26 - Jan 25 with 804 views | Brynmill_Jack |
| 40% of 'Covid Patients' in Hospital for Something Else on 08:54 - Jan 25 by felixstowe_jack |
I think you will find 99% of the unvaccinated who end up in ICU with covoid regret not having the vaccine.
In fact I have never heard any unvaccinated person who ends up in ICU saying I am glad I was not vaccinated. |
What about the vaccinated that end up in the ICU? I wonder if they regret “taking the vaccine”? | |
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| 40% of 'Covid Patients' in Hospital for Something Else on 22:36 - Jan 25 with 799 views | raynor94 |
| 40% of 'Covid Patients' in Hospital for Something Else on 21:16 - Jan 24 by howenjack |
Another fan collapsed boro/ blackburn game.
Unprecedented number now this season something is not right. |
It's always happened people being taken ill at games, difference is now club physios get involved, in 58 years of watching football I have never seen this before |  |
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| 40% of 'Covid Patients' in Hospital for Something Else on 11:13 - Jan 26 with 775 views | A_Fans_Dad |
| 40% of 'Covid Patients' in Hospital for Something Else on 22:36 - Jan 25 by raynor94 |
It's always happened people being taken ill at games, difference is now club physios get involved, in 58 years of watching football I have never seen this before |
Yes it has always happened, no one denies that.
It is the numbers involved over the last 12 months that is the concern.
Vaccine adverse reactions are very real.
https://thewest.com.au/news/ma | | | |
| 40% of 'Covid Patients' in Hospital for Something Else on 11:23 - Jan 26 with 773 views | Scotia |
| 40% of 'Covid Patients' in Hospital for Something Else on 22:36 - Jan 25 by raynor94 |
It's always happened people being taken ill at games, difference is now club physios get involved, in 58 years of watching football I have never seen this before |
A guy in his 80's apparently fainting is nothing new.
He was alert and sitting up in the ambulance on the way to hospital. | | | |
| 40% of 'Covid Patients' in Hospital for Something Else on 16:24 - Jan 26 with 753 views | felixstowe_jack |
| 40% of 'Covid Patients' in Hospital for Something Else on 11:13 - Jan 26 by A_Fans_Dad |
Yes it has always happened, no one denies that.
It is the numbers involved over the last 12 months that is the concern.
Vaccine adverse reactions are very real.
https://thewest.com.au/news/ma |
What about the 100,000 with long Covoid many months after catching the virus. Clearly it not a mild infection. | |
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| 40% of 'Covid Patients' in Hospital for Something Else on 08:22 - Jan 27 with 739 views | Scotia |
| 40% of 'Covid Patients' in Hospital for Something Else on 11:13 - Jan 26 by A_Fans_Dad |
Yes it has always happened, no one denies that.
It is the numbers involved over the last 12 months that is the concern.
Vaccine adverse reactions are very real.
https://thewest.com.au/news/ma |
And incredibly rare.
According to the stats in that article, which includes all reported side effects no matter how minor, less than 0.2% of doses result in a reported side effect. That includes a sore arm.
Compare that to the risks and effects associated with Covid which we will all get at some point. | | | |
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