| Russell Martin : ‘If we are going to be a proper club’ 15:15 - Apr 16 with 3939 views | SwansIndependent |
 Russell Martin : ‘If we are going to be a proper club’ 16th Apr 2022 15:10Russell Martin was slightly disappointed after the swans only managed to draw against Barnsley yesterday, despite having numerous chances at the end of the game to take all three points. With all that said he explained the positives very clearly post match, but admitted the intensity over the ninety minutes was not there.  0
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| Russell Martin : ‘If we are going to be a proper club’ on 15:21 - Apr 16 with 2331 views | Dr_Parnassus |
We are a proper club, he doesn’t have any bearing on that.
We were a proper club long before he came and will be long after he leaves.
He really doesn’t do himself any favours sometimes. |  |
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| Russell Martin : ‘If we are going to be a proper club’ on 15:46 - Apr 16 with 2313 views | Treforys_Jack |
| Russell Martin : ‘If we are going to be a proper club’ on 15:21 - Apr 16 by Dr_Parnassus |
We are a proper club, he doesn’t have any bearing on that.
We were a proper club long before he came and will be long after he leaves.
He really doesn’t do himself any favours sometimes. |
That was my immediate first reaction. He should have said team maybe, and no he doesn't do himself any favours. |  | | |
| Russell Martin : ‘If we are going to be a proper club’ on 16:01 - Apr 16 with 2283 views | Badlands |
Strange and very ill advised comment. |  |
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| Russell Martin : ‘If we are going to be a proper club’ on 16:16 - Apr 16 with 2262 views | Lorax |
| Russell Martin : ‘If we are going to be a proper club’ on 16:01 - Apr 16 by Badlands |
Strange and very ill advised comment. |
It annoyed me too, f course we are a proper club and it's blindingly obvious you try and retain players who have done well for you.
It's just another meaningless, ill advised soundbite. Team managers come out with them all the time. | | | |
| Russell Martin : ‘If we are going to be a proper club’ on 16:21 - Apr 16 with 2228 views | Dr_Parnassus |
Just oozes unearned arrogance for me.
I find it extremely hard to warm to him. | |
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| Russell Martin : ‘If we are going to be a proper club’ on 16:21 - Apr 16 with 2246 views | magicdaps10 |
I think it's just a phrase that certain people of certain areas in the UK use in relation to doing things properly.
I suppose it's down to how an individual would take it and I can certainly see why people would take it on a certain way. |  |
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| Russell Martin : ‘If we are going to be a proper club’ on 16:22 - Apr 16 with 2245 views | Johnw102 |
Shows his complete lack of respect for the club. |  |
| Never knew getting old would happen so quick! |
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| Russell Martin : ‘If we are going to be a proper club’ on 16:25 - Apr 16 with 2217 views | Dr_Parnassus |
| Russell Martin : ‘If we are going to be a proper club’ on 16:21 - Apr 16 by magicdaps10 |
I think it's just a phrase that certain people of certain areas in the UK use in relation to doing things properly.
I suppose it's down to how an individual would take it and I can certainly see why people would take it on a certain way. |
Well judging from the replies, only you have taken it in a different way to everyone else. | |
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| Russell Martin : ‘If we are going to be a proper club’ on 17:55 - Apr 16 with 2015 views | KeithHaynes |
My view is he can’t get it all right word for word all the time, I don’t see a lot wrong with what he said, just when you speak publicly all the time you are bound to make the odd slip or explain something incorrectly. |  |
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| Russell Martin : ‘If we are going to be a proper club’ on 18:26 - Apr 16 with 1940 views | AndyCole |
| Russell Martin : ‘If we are going to be a proper club’ on 16:22 - Apr 16 by Johnw102 |
Shows his complete lack of respect for the club. |
All day. With Martin it's always about Martinball brand, at all costs.
MKDons fans can write a book about it. Some Swans fans have the script written (me included) with publicists queuing up in their scores.
Oh for the days of proper, sleeves-up, street-wise down with the proper fans managers, who play to win effectively and efficiently above all else.
Yet some fans are still lost way up in the clouds. Brainwashed by the not-so-subtle Martinball PR machine.
Martinball, still languished way down in the bottom half. Still. After 3 years of management. Completely unacceptable in so many ways. No way would he get past the 1st interview at any self respecting Championship club right now, including us. Yet we had and still have Wunter (another story, another book).
Martinball. Fraud, without .ppt.
Cooperball had the.ppt from the outset, had the the know how /stripes of winning football, the results, and ultimately the relatively massive achievements.
How some fans are excusing Martin for such crass, disrespectful comments is beyond comprehension, right now. | |
| Pro free speech and alternative opinions -
Anti gang-bullying and poor modding thereof -
Will always make a stand against those who consistently choose to turn a blind eye |
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| Russell Martin : ‘If we are going to be a proper club’ on 18:31 - Apr 16 with 1944 views | Chief |
Seems like a veiled dig at who's running the club to me.
The fact he cites the Paterson saga suggests he's on the players side of the dispute and deserves a rise.
Maybe a few wins has given him the confidence to challenge the owners ahead of the summer transfer window. |  |
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| Russell Martin : ‘If we are going to be a proper club’ on 18:57 - Apr 16 with 1903 views | ItchySphincter |
| Russell Martin : ‘If we are going to be a proper club’ on 16:21 - Apr 16 by Dr_Parnassus |
Just oozes unearned arrogance for me.
I find it extremely hard to warm to him. |
Irony in there somewhere.  |  |
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| Russell Martin : ‘If we are going to be a proper club’ on 20:33 - Apr 16 with 1833 views | STID2017 |
Very silly thing for him to say.
Think it will be taken out of context though |  |
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| Russell Martin : ‘If we are going to be a proper club’ on 20:55 - Apr 16 with 1808 views | vetchonian |
if we are going to be a proper club maybe we should get a proper manager 😄 | |
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| Russell Martin : ‘If we are going to be a proper club’ on 21:01 - Apr 16 with 1789 views | Whiterockin |
| Russell Martin : ‘If we are going to be a proper club’ on 20:55 - Apr 16 by vetchonian |
if we are going to be a proper club maybe we should get a proper manager 😄 |
Russell "Marmite" Martin |  | | |
| Russell Martin : ‘If we are going to be a proper club’ on 21:38 - Apr 16 with 1737 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
Ridiculous pathetic comments on here if you ask me. Clearly he means a proper competitive top of the league team. A model team that does not sell its best players as a matter of course. |  |
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| Russell Martin : ‘If we are going to be a proper club’ on 21:47 - Apr 16 with 1723 views | magicdaps10 |
| Russell Martin : ‘If we are going to be a proper club’ on 21:38 - Apr 16 by ReslovenSwan1 |
Ridiculous pathetic comments on here if you ask me. Clearly he means a proper competitive top of the league team. A model team that does not sell its best players as a matter of course. |
Totally.
Think it's been taken out of context for some, also a good excuse to have a go if looking for anything to jump on. | |
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| Russell Martin : ‘If we are going to be a proper club’ on 21:59 - Apr 16 with 1711 views | guthrieintherain |
| Russell Martin : ‘If we are going to be a proper club’ on 17:55 - Apr 16 by KeithHaynes |
My view is he can’t get it all right word for word all the time, I don’t see a lot wrong with what he said, just when you speak publicly all the time you are bound to make the odd slip or explain something incorrectly. |
Thats how I see it as well no disrespect meant and none taken from me. | |
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| Russell Martin : ‘If we are going to be a proper club’ on 23:37 - Apr 16 with 1653 views | Dr_Parnassus |
| Russell Martin : ‘If we are going to be a proper club’ on 18:57 - Apr 16 by ItchySphincter |
Irony in there somewhere. |
Where? | |
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| Russell Martin : ‘If we are going to be a proper club’ on 23:53 - Apr 16 with 1642 views | Dr_Parnassus |
| Russell Martin : ‘If we are going to be a proper club’ on 21:38 - Apr 16 by ReslovenSwan1 |
Ridiculous pathetic comments on here if you ask me. Clearly he means a proper competitive top of the league team. A model team that does not sell its best players as a matter of course. |
How does he clearly mean that? Because you have decided interpreted it that way and add words for him that he didn’t say?
A team is always going to sell its players, we have always done so and not even the likes of Man Utd are immune from that. That would be a stupid thing to say too, completely unrealistic and not a place we will ever be in as a club, nor should we be aiming for such a thing.
The comments are bang on from what I can see, it’s not the first time he’s arrogantly said things like that. He needs PR training, lots talk about him being a good speaker but I disagree entirely. I cringe when he speaks, its like an intern, just seems to lack any knowledge or any substance.
Other opinions are available of course. However what is unacceptable is certain individuals stating how wrong people are to have an opinion on it unless they add words to his comments in order to take the same view as them.
What’s happened to all views welcome? | |
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| Russell Martin : ‘If we are going to be a proper club’ on 00:00 - Apr 17 with 1632 views | Dr_Parnassus |
| Russell Martin : ‘If we are going to be a proper club’ on 21:47 - Apr 16 by magicdaps10 |
Totally.
Think it's been taken out of context for some, also a good excuse to have a go if looking for anything to jump on. |
Well a quick head count suggests 9 think it was a silly thing to say, where as 3 others are agreeing with you.
Some of those 9 are staunch Martin fans so I think your accusation is unfair. | |
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| Russell Martin : ‘If we are going to be a proper club’ on 11:02 - Apr 17 with 1454 views | GixerJack |
“Citing his desire for an increase in awareness across the club Martin said “If we are going to be a proper club, we need to look after people who do really well for us, hence Naughts staying. Hopefully Pato will be one of the next in line to make sure he commits here as well.”
I have absolutely no problem whatsoever with this. Think of yourselves as employees, would you rather work for an employer with the reputation of looking after their staff or one that takes every opportunity line the pockets of their owners/investors?
He could have chosen a better set of words to mean the same thing but at the end of the day apples is apples. |  | | |
| Russell Martin : ‘If we are going to be a proper club’ on 13:15 - Apr 17 with 1398 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
| Russell Martin : ‘If we are going to be a proper club’ on 23:53 - Apr 16 by Dr_Parnassus |
How does he clearly mean that? Because you have decided interpreted it that way and add words for him that he didn’t say?
A team is always going to sell its players, we have always done so and not even the likes of Man Utd are immune from that. That would be a stupid thing to say too, completely unrealistic and not a place we will ever be in as a club, nor should we be aiming for such a thing.
The comments are bang on from what I can see, it’s not the first time he’s arrogantly said things like that. He needs PR training, lots talk about him being a good speaker but I disagree entirely. I cringe when he speaks, its like an intern, just seems to lack any knowledge or any substance.
Other opinions are available of course. However what is unacceptable is certain individuals stating how wrong people are to have an opinion on it unless they add words to his comments in order to take the same view as them.
What’s happened to all views welcome? |
The use of the word "proper" is I think Cockney vernacular. It may have been used in "Only fools and horses" for example.
David Jansen might have said to the barmaid. "You are a proper diamond Mavis". It means good and model behaviour to be aspired to.
Martin was raised in Brighton with London influences and picked up this vernacular in his every day speech.
Fans who cite this as disrespectful are either hyper sensitive or have an agenda in my opinion. True to form those with a well established agenda are well to the fore in this thread. | |
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| Russell Martin : ‘If we are going to be a proper club’ on 14:03 - Apr 17 with 1366 views | Sirjohnalot |
| Russell Martin : ‘If we are going to be a proper club’ on 16:21 - Apr 16 by magicdaps10 |
I think it's just a phrase that certain people of certain areas in the UK use in relation to doing things properly.
I suppose it's down to how an individual would take it and I can certainly see why people would take it on a certain way. |
I agree. This was one sentence taken in isolation perhaps out of a 2-3 minute answer. I didn’t read it as suggesting we’re not a proper club in the way people are suggesting |  | | |
| Russell Martin : ‘If we are going to be a proper club’ on 14:22 - Apr 17 with 1346 views | Treforys_Jack |
| Russell Martin : ‘If we are going to be a proper club’ on 13:15 - Apr 17 by ReslovenSwan1 |
The use of the word "proper" is I think Cockney vernacular. It may have been used in "Only fools and horses" for example.
David Jansen might have said to the barmaid. "You are a proper diamond Mavis". It means good and model behaviour to be aspired to.
Martin was raised in Brighton with London influences and picked up this vernacular in his every day speech.
Fans who cite this as disrespectful are either hyper sensitive or have an agenda in my opinion. True to form those with a well established agenda are well to the fore in this thread. |
Funny you should mention hyper sensitive. He's not very media savvy, makes quite a few ill advised comments. | | | |
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