| Swansea City warn the fans again on behaviour 11:22 - Oct 27 with 7564 views | KeithHaynes |
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Swansea City wishes to remind supporters that it has a zero-tolerance approach to anti-social behaviour on our official coaches for away matches.
The club has seen a rise in incidents since the start of the season, with supporters coming forward to raise complaints relating to behaviour, discriminatory chanting and abuse of those supplying the service.
This behaviour affects the enjoyment for many other supporters using the service and, whilst the club has issued several warnings and bans, we will continue to work with the Supporters’ Trust on these matters.
The club is working with Turners — our official coach travel service — to now provide stadium personnel and stewards on our coaches for the next three away games, starting with Saturday’s trip to Bristol City.
Every adult travelling on these coaches must have a form of ID on them and be able to show a valid match ticket if requested.
If behaviour on these services fails to improve and incidents continue to occur then Turners have already informed the club that they would have no hesitation in ceasing the service, which would have a detrimental impact for a lot of our supporters and, in turn, affect the numbers of supporters who travel away.
The support given to Russell Martin, his staff and the players this season has been nothing short of incredible, and the club recognises and thanks the vast majority of supporters to continue to impeccably represent our football club and community home and away.
The club wants to ensure that everyone who travels via the coach service has an enjoyable experience and gives the team the backing they deserve.
But anti-social behaviour will not be tolerated.
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| Swansea City warn the fans again on behaviour on 16:47 - Oct 28 with 693 views | onehunglow |
| Swansea City warn the fans again on behaviour on 14:14 - Oct 28 by Gwyn737 |
Brilliant 🤣 |
Pure bred Welsh then At least it’s open |  |
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| Swansea City warn the fans again on behaviour on 16:50 - Oct 28 with 694 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
| Swansea City warn the fans again on behaviour on 14:14 - Oct 28 by Gwyn737 |
Brilliant 🤣 |
All I see is people who enjoy dubious football banter (I and the club and SWP regard as discrimination against ethnicities) trying to wriggle out of it but redefining word like race and ethnicity. "All Welsh are really English".
This is what Putin does. All Ukrainians are actually Russian. |  |
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| Swansea City warn the fans again on behaviour on 17:01 - Oct 28 with 674 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
| Swansea City warn the fans again on behaviour on 10:53 - Oct 28 by Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
Tell him sheep are gorgeous? He already knows surely. |
Gerwyn was hounded from tournament to tournament by English and Scottish louts because he was Welsh with a Welsh name. A friesty character it has to be admitted. You belong with the baying louts. Treating this humour is a deflection. It is cowardly.
Skysports drivers of anti a racism for Raheem Stirling apologized to their viewers for bad language and turned the volume down and brushed it under the carpet. Not anonymous Bulgarians but drunk fans easily identified in the hall. Call the stewards warn them and then throw them out would have been braver. | |
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| Swansea City warn the fans again on behaviour on 17:20 - Oct 28 with 657 views | Gwyn737 |
| Swansea City warn the fans again on behaviour on 16:50 - Oct 28 by ReslovenSwan1 |
All I see is people who enjoy dubious football banter (I and the club and SWP regard as discrimination against ethnicities) trying to wriggle out of it but redefining word like race and ethnicity. "All Welsh are really English".
This is what Putin does. All Ukrainians are actually Russian. |
Still no answer, then?
Who was the last ethnically Welsh Swansea player?
How many ethnically Welsh players do you think will be on the plane to Qatar?
My main issue is you continuing to confuse racism with xenophobia.
By you’re measures I’m not Welsh. I find that that difficult hence I keep coming back to you. | | | |
| Swansea City warn the fans again on behaviour on 17:44 - Oct 28 with 634 views | cockett_jack |
What an odd thread! |  | | |
| Swansea City warn the fans again on behaviour on 17:48 - Oct 28 with 622 views | onehunglow |
| Swansea City warn the fans again on behaviour on 17:01 - Oct 28 by ReslovenSwan1 |
Gerwyn was hounded from tournament to tournament by English and Scottish louts because he was Welsh with a Welsh name. A friesty character it has to be admitted. You belong with the baying louts. Treating this humour is a deflection. It is cowardly.
Skysports drivers of anti a racism for Raheem Stirling apologized to their viewers for bad language and turned the volume down and brushed it under the carpet. Not anonymous Bulgarians but drunk fans easily identified in the hall. Call the stewards warn them and then throw them out would have been braver. |
No,he was hounded as he gives the impression of a knobhead with attitude.
If he were English,you d despise him.
About timeyou quit this racism. I’m buggered how you get away with it.
Very odd | |
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| Swansea City warn the fans again on behaviour on 18:25 - Oct 28 with 595 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
| Swansea City warn the fans again on behaviour on 17:48 - Oct 28 by onehunglow |
No,he was hounded as he gives the impression of a knobhead with attitude.
If he were English,you d despise him.
About timeyou quit this racism. I’m buggered how you get away with it.
Very odd |
He certainly has attitude that is why he is the best at the moment. I wish him well. What ever race creed religion skin colour or personality he has , he and his family should not be subjected to baiting from racist taunts from English fans and Scots actually,
He knows that at least some of his countrymen back him all the way. You have jumped ship and your affiliations are clear denigrating Wales and the Welsh throwing you barbs from over the border.
The lack of action by Sky calls into question their anti racial stance actually. A decent broadcaster would have focused on the abusers and assisted the police in identifying the abusers. Instead they turned the crowd microphone down and lived with it apologising to any viewer for offence caused. Their hypocrisy was staggering.
It seems quite odd to you that people stand up for Wales. You clearly cannot stand the place or he people, Each to the own. You have moved out. Why not ditch this site as well and do us all a favour. | |
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| Swansea City warn the fans again on behaviour on 18:28 - Oct 28 with 592 views | Treforys_Jack |
| Swansea City warn the fans again on behaviour on 17:44 - Oct 28 by cockett_jack |
What an odd thread! |
The res does this periodically, he goes on a crusade. Done my tree back to early 1700's and I'm probably 95% Saes, after assuming I was Welsh through and through, it nope, got St George's blood in my veins ðŸ˜. I'd love to see Killy's and Trampies family trees, bet they'd be devastated. Anyway, up yours taffies.  |  | | |
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| Swansea City warn the fans again on behaviour on 18:41 - Oct 28 with 583 views | Gwyn737 |
| Swansea City warn the fans again on behaviour on 18:28 - Oct 28 by Treforys_Jack |
The res does this periodically, he goes on a crusade. Done my tree back to early 1700's and I'm probably 95% Saes, after assuming I was Welsh through and through, it nope, got St George's blood in my veins ðŸ˜. I'd love to see Killy's and Trampies family trees, bet they'd be devastated. Anyway, up yours taffies. |
I think it works that if you’re ginger your ok, Tref 😉 | | | |
| Swansea City warn the fans again on behaviour on 18:46 - Oct 28 with 580 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
| Swansea City warn the fans again on behaviour on 17:20 - Oct 28 by Gwyn737 |
Still no answer, then?
Who was the last ethnically Welsh Swansea player?
How many ethnically Welsh players do you think will be on the plane to Qatar?
My main issue is you continuing to confuse racism with xenophobia.
By you’re measures I’m not Welsh. I find that that difficult hence I keep coming back to you. |
I am not here to fill in for you lack of education . If you want to learn do some of your own research.
Welsh people are a well know ethnic group. It is a fact. What this means exactly is for you to work out yourself. If you really want to know contact Swansea University experts.
In football terms you are Welsh if you are born in Wales have a minimum Welsh grandparent or a non British person with several years of education in Wales. It is very clearly defined.
Racism in legal terms is defined in UK law. People engaging in sheep themed verbal abuse of Welsh police and security staff have been charged with "RACIALLY aggravated disorderly conduct" (no mention of xenophobia). It is the LAW.
You have argued Welsh is not a race. Now you argue Welsh is not an ethnic group in an efforts to give racists a free pass. It is now becoming a academic matter . Swansea city have stated they will not tolerate ANY forms of discrimination. You do not seen to be getting the message. You will have to change you outlook. Fans did the same after the dark days of the 1980 and 1990s. Remember the banana? It was great fun for some boneheads in those days. | |
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| Swansea City warn the fans again on behaviour on 19:09 - Oct 28 with 551 views | Sirjohnalot |
| Swansea City warn the fans again on behaviour on 18:46 - Oct 28 by ReslovenSwan1 |
I am not here to fill in for you lack of education . If you want to learn do some of your own research.
Welsh people are a well know ethnic group. It is a fact. What this means exactly is for you to work out yourself. If you really want to know contact Swansea University experts.
In football terms you are Welsh if you are born in Wales have a minimum Welsh grandparent or a non British person with several years of education in Wales. It is very clearly defined.
Racism in legal terms is defined in UK law. People engaging in sheep themed verbal abuse of Welsh police and security staff have been charged with "RACIALLY aggravated disorderly conduct" (no mention of xenophobia). It is the LAW.
You have argued Welsh is not a race. Now you argue Welsh is not an ethnic group in an efforts to give racists a free pass. It is now becoming a academic matter . Swansea city have stated they will not tolerate ANY forms of discrimination. You do not seen to be getting the message. You will have to change you outlook. Fans did the same after the dark days of the 1980 and 1990s. Remember the banana? It was great fun for some boneheads in those days. |
We’ve had the disagreement many times, the ‘sheep shagger’ chants in the context of a football match, is unlikely to be a racially aggravated public order offence. |  | | |
| Swansea City warn the fans again on behaviour on 19:20 - Oct 28 with 548 views | bonymine |
| Swansea City warn the fans again on behaviour on 18:28 - Oct 28 by Treforys_Jack |
The res does this periodically, he goes on a crusade. Done my tree back to early 1700's and I'm probably 95% Saes, after assuming I was Welsh through and through, it nope, got St George's blood in my veins ðŸ˜. I'd love to see Killy's and Trampies family trees, bet they'd be devastated. Anyway, up yours taffies. |
Who put the ball in the English net ……halffa, halffa
Who put the ball in the English net …. hallfa feckin Europe !!
Plus
I had a Bryan Robson and his leg fell off
You turncoat mate those Lyneham days out and you were Saes all along wait till I tell the boys 🤔😳🙈🤣🤣 |  |
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| Swansea City warn the fans again on behaviour on 19:25 - Oct 28 with 538 views | Gwyn737 |
| Swansea City warn the fans again on behaviour on 18:46 - Oct 28 by ReslovenSwan1 |
I am not here to fill in for you lack of education . If you want to learn do some of your own research.
Welsh people are a well know ethnic group. It is a fact. What this means exactly is for you to work out yourself. If you really want to know contact Swansea University experts.
In football terms you are Welsh if you are born in Wales have a minimum Welsh grandparent or a non British person with several years of education in Wales. It is very clearly defined.
Racism in legal terms is defined in UK law. People engaging in sheep themed verbal abuse of Welsh police and security staff have been charged with "RACIALLY aggravated disorderly conduct" (no mention of xenophobia). It is the LAW.
You have argued Welsh is not a race. Now you argue Welsh is not an ethnic group in an efforts to give racists a free pass. It is now becoming a academic matter . Swansea city have stated they will not tolerate ANY forms of discrimination. You do not seen to be getting the message. You will have to change you outlook. Fans did the same after the dark days of the 1980 and 1990s. Remember the banana? It was great fun for some boneheads in those days. |
It’s not as easy as that is it?
I can’t find the answers to my questions as they don’t exist.
If they did it would be easy to find who the last ethnically Welsh was or how many ethnically Welsh players are on their way to Qatar.
Why do you think it’s so difficult to answer? | | | |
| Swansea City warn the fans again on behaviour on 19:27 - Oct 28 with 534 views | Gwyn737 |
| Swansea City warn the fans again on behaviour on 19:09 - Oct 28 by Sirjohnalot |
We’ve had the disagreement many times, the ‘sheep shagger’ chants in the context of a football match, is unlikely to be a racially aggravated public order offence. |
Now you’ve done it 🤣 | | | |
| Swansea City warn the fans again on behaviour on 19:39 - Oct 28 with 518 views | STID2017 |
| Swansea City warn the fans again on behaviour on 19:25 - Oct 28 by Gwyn737 |
It’s not as easy as that is it?
I can’t find the answers to my questions as they don’t exist.
If they did it would be easy to find who the last ethnically Welsh was or how many ethnically Welsh players are on their way to Qatar.
Why do you think it’s so difficult to answer? |
Many examples of chants and songs being unacceptable to some / many which still continue unpunished.
Most obvious ones are any anti- English songs, the chants suggesting the likes of Andy Carroll being from the travelling community, suggestions that people from Cardiff have poor housing and seek food in their refuge bins.
Probably many others.
I think the songs about sheep are the mildest. |  |
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| Swansea City warn the fans again on behaviour on 19:43 - Oct 28 with 512 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
| Swansea City warn the fans again on behaviour on 19:27 - Oct 28 by Gwyn737 |
Now you’ve done it 🤣 |
I have faced it many times on concources and ways out of the ground up close and personal. It is scary and intimidating as well as insulting. The worst was at Merthyr Tydfil with a bugged eyed nasty piece of work on some sort of substance.
I am not prepared to excuse this filth. Chanting in the stadium continues on to the streets. Bularians chanting monkey noises at Raheem Stirling probably did not break Bulgarian law (I am not an expert). | |
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| Swansea City warn the fans again on behaviour on 19:45 - Oct 28 with 510 views | onehunglow |
| Swansea City warn the fans again on behaviour on 19:09 - Oct 28 by Sirjohnalot |
We’ve had the disagreement many times, the ‘sheep shagger’ chants in the context of a football match, is unlikely to be a racially aggravated public order offence. |
Well,it is to him. | |
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| Swansea City warn the fans again on behaviour on 19:49 - Oct 28 with 499 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
| Swansea City warn the fans again on behaviour on 19:45 - Oct 28 by onehunglow |
Well,it is to him. |
The club have made it abundantly clear. Zero tolerance. It is not just me. If the club is true to its word expect some action. | |
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| Swansea City warn the fans again on behaviour on 19:50 - Oct 28 with 495 views | trampie |
| Swansea City warn the fans again on behaviour on 19:09 - Oct 28 by Sirjohnalot |
We’ve had the disagreement many times, the ‘sheep shagger’ chants in the context of a football match, is unlikely to be a racially aggravated public order offence. |
Not disputing anything.
But why would 'sheep sh*gger' chants not be a racially aggravated public order offence ? |  |
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| Swansea City warn the fans again on behaviour on 19:51 - Oct 28 with 494 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
| Swansea City warn the fans again on behaviour on 19:39 - Oct 28 by STID2017 |
Many examples of chants and songs being unacceptable to some / many which still continue unpunished.
Most obvious ones are any anti- English songs, the chants suggesting the likes of Andy Carroll being from the travelling community, suggestions that people from Cardiff have poor housing and seek food in their refuge bins.
Probably many others.
I think the songs about sheep are the mildest. |
To you it is mild to me it is very distasteful and offensive. Not everyone is like you. John Barnes brushed off racial taunts. Others like a footballer in Italy was a wreck and had to leave the field demanding to be substituted. | |
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| Swansea City warn the fans again on behaviour on 19:52 - Oct 28 with 495 views | Gwyn737 |
| Swansea City warn the fans again on behaviour on 19:43 - Oct 28 by ReslovenSwan1 |
I have faced it many times on concources and ways out of the ground up close and personal. It is scary and intimidating as well as insulting. The worst was at Merthyr Tydfil with a bugged eyed nasty piece of work on some sort of substance.
I am not prepared to excuse this filth. Chanting in the stadium continues on to the streets. Bularians chanting monkey noises at Raheem Stirling probably did not break Bulgarian law (I am not an expert). |
I’m sorry to hear that but you must have been very unlucky.
Lots who post on here live in England and have been fortunate enough never to have experienced it. [Post edited 28 Oct 2022 19:52]
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| Swansea City warn the fans again on behaviour on 20:10 - Oct 28 with 462 views | onehunglow |
| Swansea City warn the fans again on behaviour on 19:52 - Oct 28 by Gwyn737 |
I’m sorry to hear that but you must have been very unlucky.
Lots who post on here live in England and have been fortunate enough never to have experienced it. [Post edited 28 Oct 2022 19:52]
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I have lived here since 1976 and love it.
I feel so grateful this beautiful peninsular full of diversity has accepted me and seen my kids grow into fine people,aenglish ones at that .
They ve both been to Swansea many times
My son used to come to Away games with me staying overnight in the likes of Newcastle.
One day ,he viewed this site in its previous incarnation and never came again.
My parents were victims of crime in Swansea several times. My mum would have loved to have moved here if my father had died first . The old Sandfields was full of character ,nothing like what it is now .. | |
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| Swansea City warn the fans again on behaviour on 20:12 - Oct 28 with 461 views | Fireboy2 |
| Swansea City warn the fans again on behaviour on 19:52 - Oct 28 by Gwyn737 |
I’m sorry to hear that but you must have been very unlucky.
Lots who post on here live in England and have been fortunate enough never to have experienced it. [Post edited 28 Oct 2022 19:52]
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I have lived in saesneg for over 35 years and I get the sheep shagger sh!te now and again, in fact just after the photo that Keith posted of us at Burnley cc aload of burnley d!ckheads did the usual baaa and sheep shagger calls. |  | | |
| Swansea City warn the fans again on behaviour on 20:12 - Oct 28 with 460 views | Sirjohnalot |
| Swansea City warn the fans again on behaviour on 19:50 - Oct 28 by trampie |
Not disputing anything.
But why would 'sheep sh*gger' chants not be a racially aggravated public order offence ? |
In order for it to be an offence, the context is important. In this particular circumstance, English football fans in a match situation, chanting ‘sheep sha..’ and Swansea singing our reply is unlikely to fit the criteria, especially the aggravated offence which includes intent.
If you went down that route then ‘typical English always cheating,… always .. on the English side of the bridge ‘ eg would fall into the same criteria.
It’s a world away from what black and Asian people still suffer today.
One on one, or a group walking to the match and shouting it to a group walking the other way could be viewed differently.
It’s the same example that the police are deemed to have a higher tolerance and also people effing and Jeffing in a football game is not a public order but going into a church and using the f word, would be a public order.
All about context. | | | |
| Swansea City warn the fans again on behaviour on 20:12 - Oct 28 with 458 views | Gwyn737 |
| Swansea City warn the fans again on behaviour on 20:10 - Oct 28 by onehunglow |
I have lived here since 1976 and love it.
I feel so grateful this beautiful peninsular full of diversity has accepted me and seen my kids grow into fine people,aenglish ones at that .
They ve both been to Swansea many times
My son used to come to Away games with me staying overnight in the likes of Newcastle.
One day ,he viewed this site in its previous incarnation and never came again.
My parents were victims of crime in Swansea several times. My mum would have loved to have moved here if my father had died first . The old Sandfields was full of character ,nothing like what it is now .. |
22 years for me and always found my nationality to be a positive.
Mind you, when I get to retirement it’s my intention to go home. The pull remains strong. | | | |
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