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Wales fans refused entry in to the ground tonight 20:06 - Nov 21 with 2575 viewsKeithHaynes

Wearing rainbow bucket hats. One was the design sold by the club shop.

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Wales fans refused entry in to the ground tonight on 23:17 - Nov 21 with 739 viewsSirjohnalot

Wales fans refused entry in to the ground tonight on 22:59 - Nov 21 by Luther27

Luton had bad press on this one if memory serves right.


It’s nonsense. Which press reported that ?
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Wales fans refused entry in to the ground tonight on 23:20 - Nov 21 with 729 viewsLuther27

Wales fans refused entry in to the ground tonight on 23:17 - Nov 21 by Sirjohnalot

It’s nonsense. Which press reported that ?


https://researchbriefings.file I think I’ve linked this.
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Wales fans refused entry in to the ground tonight on 23:39 - Nov 21 with 717 viewsSirjohnalot

Wales fans refused entry in to the ground tonight on 23:20 - Nov 21 by Luther27

https://researchbriefings.file I think I’ve linked this.


These are mediation style centres set out to assist in Muslim matrimonial disputes exactly the same
as our mediation centres. Non binding and certainly nothing whatsoever to do with non Muslims. Sharia law is not recognised as having any equality or anything to do with English and Welsh law, certainly does not seek to place any authority on anyone who isn’t Muslim
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Wales fans refused entry in to the ground tonight on 23:51 - Nov 21 with 698 viewsLuther27

Wales fans refused entry in to the ground tonight on 23:39 - Nov 21 by Sirjohnalot

These are mediation style centres set out to assist in Muslim matrimonial disputes exactly the same
as our mediation centres. Non binding and certainly nothing whatsoever to do with non Muslims. Sharia law is not recognised as having any equality or anything to do with English and Welsh law, certainly does not seek to place any authority on anyone who isn’t Muslim


Why not use UK mediation services? Why the requirement for Sharia Court? The main word being Court.
The point I’m trying to make is the UK does accommodate different cultures….and so has Qatar when it comes to inviting people from the world to their country.
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Wales fans refused entry in to the ground tonight on 00:04 - Nov 22 with 689 viewsSirjohnalot

Wales fans refused entry in to the ground tonight on 23:51 - Nov 21 by Luther27

Why not use UK mediation services? Why the requirement for Sharia Court? The main word being Court.
The point I’m trying to make is the UK does accommodate different cultures….and so has Qatar when it comes to inviting people from the world to their country.


Because I’d imagine, that caters towards their culture and it is what they’re happy using.

It’s not a court in the Court of Law sense, they have no meaning in English and Welsh law. Same footing as mediation centre,

All barristers belong to ‘Inns of Court’ fancy name for the places where we become barristers, they’re not ‘courts’ in the way we think about them.

Q doesn’t accommodate different cultures, won’t even allow rainbow hats into a football match
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Wales fans refused entry in to the ground tonight on 09:17 - Nov 22 with 636 viewsdna

Just a question - don't know if there's a definitive answer

The Lions rugby tour to S.Africa (1974?) was controversial, because of the racism there at the time. Did the tour have an effect and contribute to the change in their 'policies'??? - could similar happen in Qatar?
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Wales fans refused entry in to the ground tonight on 09:43 - Nov 22 with 622 viewsLuther27

Wales fans refused entry in to the ground tonight on 00:04 - Nov 22 by Sirjohnalot

Because I’d imagine, that caters towards their culture and it is what they’re happy using.

It’s not a court in the Court of Law sense, they have no meaning in English and Welsh law. Same footing as mediation centre,

All barristers belong to ‘Inns of Court’ fancy name for the places where we become barristers, they’re not ‘courts’ in the way we think about them.

Q doesn’t accommodate different cultures, won’t even allow rainbow hats into a football match


Different matter. It is against the belief in the Koran with regards to gay people wether that be in Qatar or here in our country. Try wearing a gay pride hat to a mosque here and see the reception you get.
Qatar allows all religions into their country….though probably like Saudi it’s illegal to take a bible into the country.
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Wales fans refused entry in to the ground tonight on 09:46 - Nov 22 with 617 viewsSTID2017

Wales fans refused entry in to the ground tonight on 09:17 - Nov 22 by dna

Just a question - don't know if there's a definitive answer

The Lions rugby tour to S.Africa (1974?) was controversial, because of the racism there at the time. Did the tour have an effect and contribute to the change in their 'policies'??? - could similar happen in Qatar?


I don't think they did.
The shift in policy I think was forced upon them by greater forces, including the groundswell of support for Nelson Mandela whilst still in captivity.
I am no scholar in this, but I would expect no change in culture from Qatar.

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Wales fans refused entry in to the ground tonight on 09:51 - Nov 22 with 605 viewsSirjohnalot

Wales fans refused entry in to the ground tonight on 09:43 - Nov 22 by Luther27

Different matter. It is against the belief in the Koran with regards to gay people wether that be in Qatar or here in our country. Try wearing a gay pride hat to a mosque here and see the reception you get.
Qatar allows all religions into their country….though probably like Saudi it’s illegal to take a bible into the country.


My response was in relation to the suggestion that somehow there are 'religious police' forcing Sharia Law onto non -Muslims, which is completely untrue.

Re the gay pride hat, you could probably say the same thing about many Churches in the UK.
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Wales fans refused entry in to the ground tonight on 09:51 - Nov 22 with 604 viewsfelixstowe_jack

Wales fans refused entry in to the ground tonight on 09:46 - Nov 22 by STID2017

I don't think they did.
The shift in policy I think was forced upon them by greater forces, including the groundswell of support for Nelson Mandela whilst still in captivity.
I am no scholar in this, but I would expect no change in culture from Qatar.


Yes the 20 year sporting embargo on South Africa certainly had an effect on the white minority government. The white population of South Africa loved their sport.

Not sure it will have any effect on Qatar which has no semblance of democracy.

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Wales fans refused entry in to the ground tonight on 09:54 - Nov 22 with 597 viewsSTID2017

Wales fans refused entry in to the ground tonight on 09:51 - Nov 22 by felixstowe_jack

Yes the 20 year sporting embargo on South Africa certainly had an effect on the white minority government. The white population of South Africa loved their sport.

Not sure it will have any effect on Qatar which has no semblance of democracy.


Not sure the embargo would have forced a change in the racist policy that allowed apartheid to exist for so long though ?

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Wales fans refused entry in to the ground tonight on 10:21 - Nov 22 with 576 viewsKeithHaynes





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Wales fans refused entry in to the ground tonight on 11:12 - Nov 22 with 545 viewsKeithHaynes


Wales fans victimised and threatened with no entry in to last nights game 22nd Nov 2022 11:06
Wales followers were told to take off their rainbow hats last night by police when entering the ground last night for the 1-1 draw with the USA. Police singled out women in the main and stopped them as they tried to gain entry into the ground. One being ex Wales captain Laura McAllister. 1


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Wales fans refused entry in to the ground tonight on 11:34 - Nov 22 with 529 viewsNotLoyal

Unbelievable.

OK I've changed it.
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Wales fans refused entry in to the ground tonight on 14:30 - Nov 22 with 473 viewsReslovenSwan1

Wales fans refused entry in to the ground tonight on 09:17 - Nov 22 by dna

Just a question - don't know if there's a definitive answer

The Lions rugby tour to S.Africa (1974?) was controversial, because of the racism there at the time. Did the tour have an effect and contribute to the change in their 'policies'??? - could similar happen in Qatar?


Gareth Edwards, Barry John, JPR and co agreed to play "white skinned rugby" in south Africa. The rules under which they played were that all the players should be white Caucasian stock. It reinforced racism not helped its demise.

Plenty of people pointed this out to them at the time including Peter Hain ex MP for Neath.

We in Wales especially the WRU behaved disgracefully and have never apologised for this horrible misjudgement as far as I know.

Gay people are not banned from Qatar 2022. All FIFA game ban the promotion of political movement to stop them piggy backing on their tournaments. Even the poppy days were banned subject to proof it was not political. Certain Irish footballers who did not want to take part have d been subjected to race hate.

These features were banned but the FA and FAW have open the doors with BLM and now all activist groups want a piece of the action.

The FAW are cowards in not demanding the Redwall cease racist and deeply offensive prongraphic lurid chanting. I find it very offensive.

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Wales fans refused entry in to the ground tonight on 14:56 - Nov 22 with 449 viewsFlashberryjack

Wales fans refused entry in to the ground tonight on 22:06 - Nov 21 by Fireboy2

Now is the time to revolt.

I hope the bad press for the Qataris keeps going.


Yeah ! wearing rainbow hats is sure to change things in Qatar, I bet they are heart broken that a few have turned up wearing rainbow attire.

If countries boycotted the world cup it would have had a much greater affect than rainbow hats, plus it would have been a boot in the bollox to the corrupt organisation called FIFA.

But no, lets take the money and then wear rainbow laces, that will absolve us from our gross hypocrisy.

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Wales fans refused entry in to the ground tonight on 14:57 - Nov 22 with 443 viewsKeithHaynes

Wales fans refused entry in to the ground tonight on 14:56 - Nov 22 by Flashberryjack

Yeah ! wearing rainbow hats is sure to change things in Qatar, I bet they are heart broken that a few have turned up wearing rainbow attire.

If countries boycotted the world cup it would have had a much greater affect than rainbow hats, plus it would have been a boot in the bollox to the corrupt organisation called FIFA.

But no, lets take the money and then wear rainbow laces, that will absolve us from our gross hypocrisy.


For me it’s more about victimisation of women, which last night it was.
How dare they have a choice.

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Wales fans refused entry in to the ground tonight on 15:06 - Nov 22 with 428 viewsKeithHaynes

And then there’s this.

Former Qatar international Khalid Salman told German broadcaster ZDF on Tuesday that homosexuality was "damage in the mind" and said gay fans would have to "accept our rules," referring to homosexuality being illegal in the Gulf state.

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Wales fans refused entry in to the ground tonight on 15:26 - Nov 22 with 400 viewsFlashberryjack

Wales fans refused entry in to the ground tonight on 14:57 - Nov 22 by KeithHaynes

For me it’s more about victimisation of women, which last night it was.
How dare they have a choice.


Maybe we should ban the burka in this country as a sign of our solidarity for the oppressed women of Iran.

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Wales fans refused entry in to the ground tonight on 15:34 - Nov 22 with 396 viewsWingstandwood

The downside of having a world cup held in Qatar has been forgotten for a while whilst the media heaps praise on the supporters passion and singing.

https://www.itv.com/news/wales

Argus!

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Wales fans refused entry in to the ground tonight on 16:14 - Nov 22 with 377 viewsMad_Mike

Professor Laura Mcallister CBE knew exactly what she was doing wearing a Rainbow Bucket hat into the stadium. She even got someone to film the incident. If she really wanted to convince us of her argument she could continue to wear the hat and not watch the match. 😀
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Wales fans refused entry in to the ground tonight on 16:52 - Nov 22 with 356 viewspencoedjack

Wales fans refused entry in to the ground tonight on 16:14 - Nov 22 by Mad_Mike

Professor Laura Mcallister CBE knew exactly what she was doing wearing a Rainbow Bucket hat into the stadium. She even got someone to film the incident. If she really wanted to convince us of her argument she could continue to wear the hat and not watch the match. 😀


This ^
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Wales fans refused entry in to the ground tonight on 16:56 - Nov 22 with 355 viewspencoedjack

Wales fans refused entry in to the ground tonight on 15:26 - Nov 22 by Flashberryjack

Maybe we should ban the burka in this country as a sign of our solidarity for the oppressed women of Iran.


Ban something in this country?

You can stand on a street corner & preach racial hatred, fly an ISIS flag even walk down the street with a swastika on your arm without getting arrested.

This country has gone way to far in allowing people (of any race/religion/sexuality) to do whatever they want.
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Wales fans refused entry in to the ground tonight on 17:53 - Nov 22 with 328 viewsmax936

Wales fans refused entry in to the ground tonight on 14:56 - Nov 22 by Flashberryjack

Yeah ! wearing rainbow hats is sure to change things in Qatar, I bet they are heart broken that a few have turned up wearing rainbow attire.

If countries boycotted the world cup it would have had a much greater affect than rainbow hats, plus it would have been a boot in the bollox to the corrupt organisation called FIFA.

But no, lets take the money and then wear rainbow laces, that will absolve us from our gross hypocrisy.


This !

I say that whilst I've got the Poland v Mexico game on, just to confirm that I'm a hypocrite like most, its Football and its on the Tele.

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Wales fans refused entry in to the ground tonight on 18:00 - Nov 22 with 318 viewsonehunglow

Wales fans refused entry in to the ground tonight on 17:53 - Nov 22 by max936

This !

I say that whilst I've got the Poland v Mexico game on, just to confirm that I'm a hypocrite like most, its Football and its on the Tele.


Don’t fret mate.
We re all the same ,as I’ve said many 5imes. That’s English and Welsh btw.

If England win this tournament ,and they could, then any semblance of support for women/gays etc will vanish underneath a tsunami of hypocritical sheets.

Re#oven is right though by saying we shouldn’t complain really. All countries have different laws and theirs are abhorrent to us. That said, we have people who see Iran as treating minorities fairly.iI read that on here,honest. Good old Iran eh.

We should NOT be there.

Wales won’t be anyway so then the players can be “ honest”

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