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Another Thread disappeared. 11:01 - Dec 10 with 5052 viewsA_Fans_Dad

Yet another thread removed because the truth is not allowed to be spoken.
The digital ID thread had moved in to an area that makes the people using and running this Forum uncomfortable.
But it is an area that affects so many children throughout the world and should not be hidden just because it makes people uncomfortable.

The latest revelations from Elon Musk's Twitter team makes disgusting reading.
Not only for the FBI involvement in election interference for the last 2 years and the censhorship of a sitting President but also the depravity that was allowed to continue.



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Another Thread disappeared. on 15:00 - Dec 11 with 1136 viewsA_Fans_Dad

Another Thread disappeared. on 14:48 - Dec 11 by onehunglow

As usual,you show immense hubris
Now,repeat which question as I have not time to read all the minutae on here

I might answer although it will be a waste of time as you instantly dismiss any text you disagree with. You don’t really do respectful exchanges

Tomorrow, DM me to save this site being bored shiteless. And I ll pose questions for you . I don’t want any answer just losing questions which might have yiu see the Light

Have a blessed day


Seeing as you claim to have missed it I will repeat the whole response fro you.

"You mean this question on the other post?
"Does this apply to vaccines tHat fights polio,diphtheria,TB etc."

Ie not measles mumps and TB.
Apart from the fact that none of those illnesses are caused by fast mutating viruses of course and the vaccines are not given in the middle of a Pandemic.
So your comparison is based on a complete lack of understanding the differences.

However because the covid vaccines have not prevented 45,000 COVID deaths this year how would you feel about 45,000 polio, deaths, or 45,000 dyptheria deaths or 45,000 TB deaths.
Would you think those vaccines were working OK?
A simple yes or no will do. "
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Another Thread disappeared. on 15:11 - Dec 11 with 1114 viewsonehunglow

Another Thread disappeared. on 15:00 - Dec 11 by A_Fans_Dad

Seeing as you claim to have missed it I will repeat the whole response fro you.

"You mean this question on the other post?
"Does this apply to vaccines tHat fights polio,diphtheria,TB etc."

Ie not measles mumps and TB.
Apart from the fact that none of those illnesses are caused by fast mutating viruses of course and the vaccines are not given in the middle of a Pandemic.
So your comparison is based on a complete lack of understanding the differences.

However because the covid vaccines have not prevented 45,000 COVID deaths this year how would you feel about 45,000 polio, deaths, or 45,000 dyptheria deaths or 45,000 TB deaths.
Would you think those vaccines were working OK?
A simple yes or no will do. "


If yiu are going to ask a question,do so but don’t phrase it like that .

Answer however is Yes

If you were living in Britain in the 40s50s ,would you accept a vaccine for diseases I’ve mentioned .

I’m assuming you are not a doctor .

Many have died because they did not have a vaccine

The same conspiracy theorists as you dismissed masks and distancing

Don’t bother replying

I find you distasteful and your views dangerous

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Another Thread disappeared. on 17:02 - Dec 11 with 1080 viewsA_Fans_Dad

So there we have it, someone who would still advocate vaccines to kids even though they wouldn't save 45,000 of them from dying in a year.
The lack of logic is truly astounding.
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Another Thread disappeared. on 17:40 - Dec 11 with 1055 viewsunion_jack

Another Thread disappeared. on 14:09 - Dec 11 by Sirjohnalot

I’m afraid that’s not right. As everyone know, the primary purpose of this site is raising money for charity


An honest question John. Have the charities involved in this site either made stipulations as to what / what not can be discussed or has it been a policy devised by Keith / others so as to be one step ahead? Are you sure that the charities would be put off by some of the debate deemed unsuitable?

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Another Thread disappeared. on 17:51 - Dec 11 with 1043 viewsSirjohnalot

Another Thread disappeared. on 17:40 - Dec 11 by union_jack

An honest question John. Have the charities involved in this site either made stipulations as to what / what not can be discussed or has it been a policy devised by Keith / others so as to be one step ahead? Are you sure that the charities would be put off by some of the debate deemed unsuitable?


I don’t know is the answer to that. Think it was last summer where Keith put a post up asking for people to post with the charities in mind (I think it was a vaccine denial thread) and explaining what damage can be done and they had raised concerns.

Keith had not told me of anything else other than that, so no, they have not raised any issues directly relating to anything I’ve pulled(as far as I’m
Aware) What I do know is that people from other sites have screenshotted posts that appear on here and have caused issues. What I am trying to do is prevent that from happening and nipping things in the bud before they kick off. When they do kick it causes the site hours of problems.

If I pull something, it’s down to me, not Keith. He’s got more important things to be getting on with and I’m doing my best to help him out. Whether I get that right or wrong is a
Matter of opinion but posts which include butt plugs for kids and ‘queer sec’ are the very ones that will be screenshotted and reported.

Any errors, issues caused and mine and mine alone
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Another Thread disappeared. on 20:04 - Dec 11 with 1003 viewsbritferry

4 pages... another AFD bore fest

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Another Thread disappeared. on 20:08 - Dec 11 with 983 viewsDr_Parnassus

Another Thread disappeared. on 17:51 - Dec 11 by Sirjohnalot

I don’t know is the answer to that. Think it was last summer where Keith put a post up asking for people to post with the charities in mind (I think it was a vaccine denial thread) and explaining what damage can be done and they had raised concerns.

Keith had not told me of anything else other than that, so no, they have not raised any issues directly relating to anything I’ve pulled(as far as I’m
Aware) What I do know is that people from other sites have screenshotted posts that appear on here and have caused issues. What I am trying to do is prevent that from happening and nipping things in the bud before they kick off. When they do kick it causes the site hours of problems.

If I pull something, it’s down to me, not Keith. He’s got more important things to be getting on with and I’m doing my best to help him out. Whether I get that right or wrong is a
Matter of opinion but posts which include butt plugs for kids and ‘queer sec’ are the very ones that will be screenshotted and reported.

Any errors, issues caused and mine and mine alone


Important context to be added there though John, as your comments here are more “screenshotable” than the original.

If all you are saying is “butt plugs for kids” without context and no original discussion to be referenced, people can screenshot that and say “look what they were promoting/discussing on the other site”.

The discussion was surrounding the events that happened during sex education classes at a certain school and how the person who posted it was pretty sickened by it. It would be tough to screenshot that and paint it as something sinister.

But when you mention it and remove all context it’s a lot easier as the rest get filled in by whoever is setting the stage.

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Another Thread disappeared. on 20:38 - Dec 11 with 961 viewsSirjohnalot

Another Thread disappeared. on 20:08 - Dec 11 by Dr_Parnassus

Important context to be added there though John, as your comments here are more “screenshotable” than the original.

If all you are saying is “butt plugs for kids” without context and no original discussion to be referenced, people can screenshot that and say “look what they were promoting/discussing on the other site”.

The discussion was surrounding the events that happened during sex education classes at a certain school and how the person who posted it was pretty sickened by it. It would be tough to screenshot that and paint it as something sinister.

But when you mention it and remove all context it’s a lot easier as the rest get filled in by whoever is setting the stage.


Please , I’ve explained many times why I deleted the thread, not sure I can do anymore. It wasn’t just that post. I’ve explained why it was deleted. Can we draw line there please ?
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Another Thread disappeared. on 20:38 - Dec 11 with 961 viewsunion_jack

Another Thread disappeared. on 17:51 - Dec 11 by Sirjohnalot

I don’t know is the answer to that. Think it was last summer where Keith put a post up asking for people to post with the charities in mind (I think it was a vaccine denial thread) and explaining what damage can be done and they had raised concerns.

Keith had not told me of anything else other than that, so no, they have not raised any issues directly relating to anything I’ve pulled(as far as I’m
Aware) What I do know is that people from other sites have screenshotted posts that appear on here and have caused issues. What I am trying to do is prevent that from happening and nipping things in the bud before they kick off. When they do kick it causes the site hours of problems.

If I pull something, it’s down to me, not Keith. He’s got more important things to be getting on with and I’m doing my best to help him out. Whether I get that right or wrong is a
Matter of opinion but posts which include butt plugs for kids and ‘queer sec’ are the very ones that will be screenshotted and reported.

Any errors, issues caused and mine and mine alone


Thanks John. It was a genuine question and no criticism implied.

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Another Thread disappeared. on 20:43 - Dec 11 with 952 viewsSirjohnalot

Another Thread disappeared. on 20:38 - Dec 11 by union_jack

Thanks John. It was a genuine question and no criticism implied.


Absolutely none taken
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Another Thread disappeared. on 20:58 - Dec 11 with 920 viewsKeithHaynes

Another Thread disappeared. on 17:51 - Dec 11 by Sirjohnalot

I don’t know is the answer to that. Think it was last summer where Keith put a post up asking for people to post with the charities in mind (I think it was a vaccine denial thread) and explaining what damage can be done and they had raised concerns.

Keith had not told me of anything else other than that, so no, they have not raised any issues directly relating to anything I’ve pulled(as far as I’m
Aware) What I do know is that people from other sites have screenshotted posts that appear on here and have caused issues. What I am trying to do is prevent that from happening and nipping things in the bud before they kick off. When they do kick it causes the site hours of problems.

If I pull something, it’s down to me, not Keith. He’s got more important things to be getting on with and I’m doing my best to help him out. Whether I get that right or wrong is a
Matter of opinion but posts which include butt plugs for kids and ‘queer sec’ are the very ones that will be screenshotted and reported.

Any errors, issues caused and mine and mine alone


It happens quite often, the last one was hilarious because I was emailed and within that email was the details of the idiot causing trouble. As a clue that went straight to the police regards ongoing harassment, it will be watertight as hell once he gets the knock on the door.

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Another Thread disappeared. on 01:55 - Dec 12 with 842 viewsDr_Parnassus

Another Thread disappeared. on 20:38 - Dec 11 by Sirjohnalot

Please , I’ve explained many times why I deleted the thread, not sure I can do anymore. It wasn’t just that post. I’ve explained why it was deleted. Can we draw line there please ?


I’m not asking you why you deleted it.

I assume you misunderstood what my point was?

I’m saying that you referring it it without context as “kids with butt plugs” is far more ‘screenshotable’ than the thread itself.

The thread itself had context, which was being disgusted by the fact it happened in a school lesson. Without context (like yours) it allows people to take a screenshot of what you have said and then set the stage as to what they want to claim was discussed.

So again, agree with deleting it… but you are sort of defeating the object by repeating the sentence but without any context.

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Another Thread disappeared. on 02:01 - Dec 12 with 839 viewsDr_Parnassus

I’ll expand, just to make sure you know what I’m talking about.

A thread comes up regarding this subject. The discussion is about how awful it is etc

It gets deleted because you don’t want someone to screenshot it and make up their own context. Fair enough, I understand that and probably agree.

So with that reasoning in mind….. when explaining, it’s probably best to give the context and say “I deleted a thread about someone being angry at butt plugs being given to children in school lessons”.

As opposed to when you say “I deleted a thread about children with butt plugs” it’s extremely clumsy and far more damaging than the thread itself which had the much needed context. Seems like it’s exacerbating the initial problem.

Imagine the fun people with a penchant to screenshot and make up their own context can have with that. Without the original thread to cross reference they can make up whatever they like and set the stage in a far more damaging way as to what was being discussed.

Hope that makes sense.

It’s great that you have been open about your reasoning but I feel that what maybe was a subconscious attempt to make the subject sound more “delete-worthy” you probably are just giving ‘screenshoters’ far better opportunities to cause issues.
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Another Thread disappeared. on 08:56 - Dec 13 with 735 viewsScotia

Another Thread disappeared. on 19:55 - Dec 10 by Jack123

He makes perfect sense to me,


Can I ask why?

I honestly can't think of a point he's raised that isn't shown to be a wrong, misunderstood or misrepresented by completely independent people.
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Another Thread disappeared. on 09:38 - Dec 13 with 701 viewsmangohilljack

Another Thread disappeared. on 20:38 - Dec 11 by Sirjohnalot

Please , I’ve explained many times why I deleted the thread, not sure I can do anymore. It wasn’t just that post. I’ve explained why it was deleted. Can we draw line there please ?


Are you able to apply disclaimers to a forum which will protect the site, which in turn would make your moderating job a lot easier and enable a more timely response?
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Another Thread disappeared. on 09:46 - Dec 13 with 691 viewsSirjohnalot

Another Thread disappeared. on 09:38 - Dec 13 by mangohilljack

Are you able to apply disclaimers to a forum which will protect the site, which in turn would make your moderating job a lot easier and enable a more timely response?


Not sure on the law on this but don't think you can disclaim on a site for things like that, you have to take reasonable steps to prevent it.

I may be wrong though as I've not even looked at that area since Uni in 97
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Another Thread disappeared. on 09:53 - Dec 13 with 686 viewsmangohilljack

Another Thread disappeared. on 09:46 - Dec 13 by Sirjohnalot

Not sure on the law on this but don't think you can disclaim on a site for things like that, you have to take reasonable steps to prevent it.

I may be wrong though as I've not even looked at that area since Uni in 97


It was just a thought. Ultimately if it has to go it has to go but maybe if there is a disclaimer with the reasonable steps outlined it might make your job a little bit easier and also put a bit of accountability onto the poster.
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Another Thread disappeared. on 10:13 - Dec 13 with 667 viewsSirjohnalot

Another Thread disappeared. on 09:53 - Dec 13 by mangohilljack

It was just a thought. Ultimately if it has to go it has to go but maybe if there is a disclaimer with the reasonable steps outlined it might make your job a little bit easier and also put a bit of accountability onto the poster.


You've seen how long this thread has been. I've asked so many times that people post with one eye on the wellbeing of the site, but not all posters will assist
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Another Thread disappeared. on 18:33 - Dec 13 with 607 viewsA_Fans_Dad

Another Thread disappeared. on 08:56 - Dec 13 by Scotia

Can I ask why?

I honestly can't think of a point he's raised that isn't shown to be a wrong, misunderstood or misrepresented by completely independent people.


Every point I made on that deleted post was factual, I even supplied a reference, the only thing that wasn't was what you said I wrote.
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Another Thread disappeared. on 18:53 - Dec 13 with 585 viewsFlashberryjack

Another Thread disappeared. on 18:33 - Dec 13 by A_Fans_Dad

Every point I made on that deleted post was factual, I even supplied a reference, the only thing that wasn't was what you said I wrote.
[Post edited 13 Dec 2022 18:35]


It seems some on here don't like posters with different points of view.

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Another Thread disappeared. on 07:47 - Dec 14 with 523 viewsScotia

Another Thread disappeared. on 18:33 - Dec 13 by A_Fans_Dad

Every point I made on that deleted post was factual, I even supplied a reference, the only thing that wasn't was what you said I wrote.
[Post edited 13 Dec 2022 18:35]


It might have been it wasn't relevant.

Unless you do happen to believe that Trump is going to save the world from the "elite" satanist paedophile human traffickers.
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Another Thread disappeared. on 08:15 - Dec 14 with 519 viewspencoedjack

Another Thread disappeared. on 13:56 - Dec 11 by Treforys_Jack

I'll give you a conspiracy theory, there are posters out there who are desperately trying to bring this site into disrepute, it's always the same posters and it's a crying shame.
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100% this.

As someone said earlier in the thread if you don’t like what Keith & John do bugger off to another site.
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Another Thread disappeared. on 11:46 - Dec 14 with 481 viewsA_Fans_Dad

Another Thread disappeared. on 18:53 - Dec 13 by Flashberryjack

It seems some on here don't like posters with different points of view.


Well you can't decide because it no longer exists.
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