| Swansea City are going down ? History talks to us ! 10:25 - Mar 1 with 1894 views | SwansIndependent |
 Swansea City are going down ? History talks to us ! 1st Mar 2023 10:21Despite fears to the contrary the chances of Swansea City being relegated are apparently so beyond it is virtually impossible. Your eyebrows are now raised, I see that but history states it’s a nigh on impossibility with so many games to go until the end of the season. So, let’s have a look if that’s the actual reality.  2
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| Swansea City are going down ? History talks to us ! on 10:39 - Mar 1 with 1583 views | STID2017 |
Looked at this yesterday.
IMHO it would take a miracle for all the teams bar two to overwhelm our current points total.
I can see us finishing lower than we are now though and if nothing changes at the club we will be the Blackpool or Peterborough of next season |  |
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| Swansea City are going down ? History talks to us ! on 10:44 - Mar 1 with 1577 views | guthrieintherain |
| Swansea City are going down ? History talks to us ! on 10:39 - Mar 1 by STID2017 |
Looked at this yesterday.
IMHO it would take a miracle for all the teams bar two to overwhelm our current points total.
I can see us finishing lower than we are now though and if nothing changes at the club we will be the Blackpool or Peterborough of next season |
Could say that about any team though nobody knows what squads teams will have next season.
And our skinflint owners just put another 6 million into the coffers. | |
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| Swansea City are going down ? History talks to us ! on 10:48 - Mar 1 with 1568 views | BryanSwan |
| Swansea City are going down ? History talks to us ! on 10:39 - Mar 1 by STID2017 |
Looked at this yesterday.
IMHO it would take a miracle for all the teams bar two to overwhelm our current points total.
I can see us finishing lower than we are now though and if nothing changes at the club we will be the Blackpool or Peterborough of next season |
I've had to put a £1 on just incase. Will be more than that on us going down next year if Martin remains. | |
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| Swansea City are going down ? History talks to us ! on 11:22 - Mar 1 with 1516 views | STID2017 |
| Swansea City are going down ? History talks to us ! on 10:44 - Mar 1 by guthrieintherain |
Could say that about any team though nobody knows what squads teams will have next season.
And our skinflint owners just put another 6 million into the coffers. |
Difference is that I feel that the current owners won't IMHO strengthen the team as we will need.
Not sure what the £6 million is, but I don't believe for one minute it is going to be spent on the team | |
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| Swansea City are going down ? History talks to us ! on 11:57 - Mar 1 with 1457 views | guthrieintherain |
| Swansea City are going down ? History talks to us ! on 11:22 - Mar 1 by STID2017 |
Difference is that I feel that the current owners won't IMHO strengthen the team as we will need.
Not sure what the £6 million is, but I don't believe for one minute it is going to be spent on the team |
Darling, Fisher, Downes, Sorrinola, Joe Allen Wood,Ogbetta Patterson did not come cheap.
That's not counting the likes of Cundle,,Oko Flex Rhys Williams.
Big wages for the likes of Grimes and Fulton.
Also turned down bids for Piroe and Obafemi.
The owners are not perfect but a few on here need to get in the real world. [Post edited 1 Mar 2023 11:58]
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| Swansea City are going down ? History talks to us ! on 12:10 - Mar 1 with 1395 views | Dr_Parnassus |
I’d say the very fact we are talking about this shows how far we have fallen under this manager.
Having a team that contains Piroe, Allen, Grimes, Manning, Fulton, Ntcham, Darling, Cabango and Cooper sat perennially in the bottom half is an absolute travesty.
I genuinely think, if we get the next managerial appointment right, he will put us back on track within 6 weeks and we immediately become a top 10 club again. |  |
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| Swansea City are going down ? History talks to us ! on 12:33 - Mar 1 with 1362 views | whiterock |
| Swansea City are going down ? History talks to us ! on 12:10 - Mar 1 by Dr_Parnassus |
I’d say the very fact we are talking about this shows how far we have fallen under this manager.
Having a team that contains Piroe, Allen, Grimes, Manning, Fulton, Ntcham, Darling, Cabango and Cooper sat perennially in the bottom half is an absolute travesty.
I genuinely think, if we get the next managerial appointment right, he will put us back on track within 6 weeks and we immediately become a top 10 club again. |
I agree with this, we have a team, we don't have a manager to get a tune out of them | | | |
| Swansea City are going down ? History talks to us ! on 12:38 - Mar 1 with 1352 views | Fireboy2 |
| Swansea City are going down ? History talks to us ! on 12:33 - Mar 1 by whiterock |
I agree with this, we have a team, we don't have a manager to get a tune out of them |
I don't think we have a squad to play any system as we do not have any players with pace, whatever system we play we will struggle.
For me play 4 at the back every game, it has been proved to be the best system with the squad we have but Martin has to do it his way, for whatever reason he keeps 3 centre halves it its working. |  | | |
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| Swansea City are going down ? History talks to us ! on 12:51 - Mar 1 with 1316 views | pencoedjack |
| Swansea City are going down ? History talks to us ! on 12:38 - Mar 1 by Fireboy2 |
I don't think we have a squad to play any system as we do not have any players with pace, whatever system we play we will struggle.
For me play 4 at the back every game, it has been proved to be the best system with the squad we have but Martin has to do it his way, for whatever reason he keeps 3 centre halves it its working. |
I'd go with 5 at the back but cut out the faffing about, as you say we have nobody with any pace to play wide.
Wood & Latibeaudiere are included as I there is nobody else.
Allen & Fulton holding with Ntcham slightly further forward , Grimes to come on for Allen but I wouldn't have him starting. Take your pick from Cooper or Whittaker.
Fisher
Manning
Cabango
Darling
Wood*
Latibeaudiere*
Allen
Fulton
Ntcham
Cooper
Piroe |  | | |
| Swansea City are going down ? History talks to us ! on 14:13 - Mar 1 with 1213 views | Flashberryjack |
| Swansea City are going down ? History talks to us ! on 10:48 - Mar 1 by BryanSwan |
I've had to put a £1 on just incase. Will be more than that on us going down next year if Martin remains. |
If Martin is still here next season, then relegation is just about nailed on, I'm not a betting man but I think I'd put a few quid on it. |  |
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| Swansea City are going down ? History talks to us ! on 15:10 - Mar 1 with 1124 views | onehunglow |
| Swansea City are going down ? History talks to us ! on 14:13 - Mar 1 by Flashberryjack |
If Martin is still here next season, then relegation is just about nailed on, I'm not a betting man but I think I'd put a few quid on it. |
We would deserve it
We can get him out if we channel out anger , hurt and frustration at seeing our great club humiliated
We are nothing to Martin
Let’s understand that | |
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| Swansea City are going down ? History talks to us ! on 15:21 - Mar 1 with 1110 views | KeithHaynes |
| Swansea City are going down ? History talks to us ! on 15:10 - Mar 1 by onehunglow |
We would deserve it
We can get him out if we channel out anger , hurt and frustration at seeing our great club humiliated
We are nothing to Martin
Let’s understand that |
I disagree entirely, his system of management may be proving to be suspect at least, but a failure at Swansea wouldn’t do his prospects any good at all. This season he had yet another free hit, I did say at the start of all this he could lose the first six and still be manager, and that’s bearing fruit, especially now we are in an appalling run of form.
And still he is in situ, and yes I’m surprised.
You have to be pragmatic about the situation at Swansea, there’s no way the owners will pay him off, they will keep him until the summer, of course if there’s thrashing’s on the horizon that could change. But overall they will be relying on him to throw his arms up and walk in the summer or bring about another Steve Cooper situation as we saw and reported on here two days after the play off final.
Why waste half a million disposing of Martin and five staff at least and then paying out for a new manager and staff ? They are dealing in economics, and if Martin as you say doesn’t care about the club then that can apply to anyone including the owners and players. The exception is me and you, and people like us.
Personally now from what I am witnessing and privy to I wouldn’t mind him leaving, but I just can’t see it unless the whole thing collapses dramatically and I mean dramatically plus. And it hasn’t yet. I can’t see him turning this around, and I can’t see the players doing it either with the current on the pitch formation and strategy. But getting rid isn’t on the agenda. |  |
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| Swansea City are going down ? History talks to us ! on 15:34 - Mar 1 with 1102 views | heatwave |
I like many think we will scramble enough not to go down.
Next season I'm not so sure. Even if he's not here I think there's been so much damage to the players confidence that I can only see us struggle at the foot of the table. |  | | |
| Swansea City are going down ? History talks to us ! on 15:36 - Mar 1 with 1096 views | BryanSwan |
| Swansea City are going down ? History talks to us ! on 15:21 - Mar 1 by KeithHaynes |
I disagree entirely, his system of management may be proving to be suspect at least, but a failure at Swansea wouldn’t do his prospects any good at all. This season he had yet another free hit, I did say at the start of all this he could lose the first six and still be manager, and that’s bearing fruit, especially now we are in an appalling run of form.
And still he is in situ, and yes I’m surprised.
You have to be pragmatic about the situation at Swansea, there’s no way the owners will pay him off, they will keep him until the summer, of course if there’s thrashing’s on the horizon that could change. But overall they will be relying on him to throw his arms up and walk in the summer or bring about another Steve Cooper situation as we saw and reported on here two days after the play off final.
Why waste half a million disposing of Martin and five staff at least and then paying out for a new manager and staff ? They are dealing in economics, and if Martin as you say doesn’t care about the club then that can apply to anyone including the owners and players. The exception is me and you, and people like us.
Personally now from what I am witnessing and privy to I wouldn’t mind him leaving, but I just can’t see it unless the whole thing collapses dramatically and I mean dramatically plus. And it hasn’t yet. I can’t see him turning this around, and I can’t see the players doing it either with the current on the pitch formation and strategy. But getting rid isn’t on the agenda. |
I don't disagree with you there, it probably is the most financially sensible thing to do. We are very unlikely to go down and also very unlikely to get near the playoffs so therefore there is no need to change immediately.
However frustrating that might be for myself and others considering how we are playing and have played since October.
I would suspect they are already preparing for his departure in the summer, taking their time and making sure to make the right appointment then will be vital. As i could see a few players going this year namely Piroe. | |
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| Swansea City are going down ? History talks to us ! on 15:42 - Mar 1 with 1083 views | guthrieintherain |
| Swansea City are going down ? History talks to us ! on 15:34 - Mar 1 by heatwave |
I like many think we will scramble enough not to go down.
Next season I'm not so sure. Even if he's not here I think there's been so much damage to the players confidence that I can only see us struggle at the foot of the table. |
Nobody knows if he will be our manager next season.
Nobody knows what our squad will be next season.
Same applies for just about all the sides in the division.
Every season we get doom and gloom predicted they will get it right one day. | |
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| Swansea City are going down ? History talks to us ! on 15:42 - Mar 1 with 1083 views | Whiterockin |
| Swansea City are going down ? History talks to us ! on 15:36 - Mar 1 by BryanSwan |
I don't disagree with you there, it probably is the most financially sensible thing to do. We are very unlikely to go down and also very unlikely to get near the playoffs so therefore there is no need to change immediately.
However frustrating that might be for myself and others considering how we are playing and have played since October.
I would suspect they are already preparing for his departure in the summer, taking their time and making sure to make the right appointment then will be vital. As i could see a few players going this year namely Piroe. |
I'm not convinced they are preparing for his departure, if he doesn't walk we may well be stuck with him. |  | | |
| Swansea City are going down ? History talks to us ! on 16:14 - Mar 1 with 1051 views | BryanSwan |
| Swansea City are going down ? History talks to us ! on 15:42 - Mar 1 by Whiterockin |
I'm not convinced they are preparing for his departure, if he doesn't walk we may well be stuck with him. |
Surely it must be a consideration for them, it would only be sensible. Even if as many say on here there have no interest etc etc, they will still want to protect their investment and to do so we have to remain a championship club minimum.
Our points per game since the derby has been 0.83 which over a season would leave us with 38pts. They will know this and be concerned.
I don't know anything of behind the scenes etc in the club, but i would expect if it is being run to protect business interests it would ver much be up for discussion. | |
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| Swansea City are going down ? History talks to us ! on 16:16 - Mar 1 with 1051 views | STID2017 |
| Swansea City are going down ? History talks to us ! on 15:42 - Mar 1 by guthrieintherain |
Nobody knows if he will be our manager next season.
Nobody knows what our squad will be next season.
Same applies for just about all the sides in the division.
Every season we get doom and gloom predicted they will get it right one day. |
I agree we always have the gloom and doom merchants.
Thing is normally when it comes to Swans I am usually very much in the glass half full category.
Reached a point at the moment where the owners, manager, players and other staff just seem to be treading water when they should all be swimming like heck.
Very frustrating times.
Come next August I am sure I will be positive about everything again | |
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| Swansea City are going down ? History talks to us ! on 16:39 - Mar 1 with 1023 views | KeithHaynes |
| Swansea City are going down ? History talks to us ! on 15:42 - Mar 1 by Whiterockin |
I'm not convinced they are preparing for his departure, if he doesn't walk we may well be stuck with him. |
He isn’t on their level when it comes to skullduggery, as I said ask Cooper. | |
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| Swansea City are going down ? History talks to us ! on 16:50 - Mar 1 with 1007 views | max936 |
| Swansea City are going down ? History talks to us ! on 16:39 - Mar 1 by KeithHaynes |
He isn’t on their level when it comes to skullduggery, as I said ask Cooper. |
So it could be that they won't be supporting him in the hope he packs his bags and heads for the exit ?
While the club goes down the Tawe plus their money with the clubs value dwindling away?
We know they couldn't care less about the fans and they won't be here to cop the flack being the shite houses they are, so the above could very well happen? |  |
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| Swansea City are going down ? History talks to us ! on 16:59 - Mar 1 with 992 views | Whiterockin |
| Swansea City are going down ? History talks to us ! on 16:39 - Mar 1 by KeithHaynes |
He isn’t on their level when it comes to skullduggery, as I said ask Cooper. |
So in your opinion do you think if he doesn't walk he is here for the length of his contract. | | | |
| Swansea City are going down ? History talks to us ! on 18:20 - Mar 1 with 899 views | guthrieintherain |
| Swansea City are going down ? History talks to us ! on 16:59 - Mar 1 by Whiterockin |
So in your opinion do you think if he doesn't walk he is here for the length of his contract. |
Gardening leave but if he mows the lawn the same speed as we play it will be 10 foot tall by the end of July. | |
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| Swansea City are going down ? History talks to us ! on 19:00 - Mar 1 with 856 views | onehunglow |
| Swansea City are going down ? History talks to us ! on 15:21 - Mar 1 by KeithHaynes |
I disagree entirely, his system of management may be proving to be suspect at least, but a failure at Swansea wouldn’t do his prospects any good at all. This season he had yet another free hit, I did say at the start of all this he could lose the first six and still be manager, and that’s bearing fruit, especially now we are in an appalling run of form.
And still he is in situ, and yes I’m surprised.
You have to be pragmatic about the situation at Swansea, there’s no way the owners will pay him off, they will keep him until the summer, of course if there’s thrashing’s on the horizon that could change. But overall they will be relying on him to throw his arms up and walk in the summer or bring about another Steve Cooper situation as we saw and reported on here two days after the play off final.
Why waste half a million disposing of Martin and five staff at least and then paying out for a new manager and staff ? They are dealing in economics, and if Martin as you say doesn’t care about the club then that can apply to anyone including the owners and players. The exception is me and you, and people like us.
Personally now from what I am witnessing and privy to I wouldn’t mind him leaving, but I just can’t see it unless the whole thing collapses dramatically and I mean dramatically plus. And it hasn’t yet. I can’t see him turning this around, and I can’t see the players doing it either with the current on the pitch formation and strategy. But getting rid isn’t on the agenda. |
We can only hope he somehow feels we are no longer worthy of him.
It’s going to end sooner than you think Keith .
Hopefully | |
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| Swansea City are going down ? History talks to us ! on 19:00 - Mar 1 with 860 views | max936 |
| Swansea City are going down ? History talks to us ! on 11:22 - Mar 1 by STID2017 |
Difference is that I feel that the current owners won't IMHO strengthen the team as we will need.
Not sure what the £6 million is, but I don't believe for one minute it is going to be spent on the team |
Its gone already in my view, clubs obviously not making any money to pay it back, so instead of hamstringing the club with debt they've converted them and at the same time diluted the Trusts shares, call it two birds killed with one stone. | |
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| Swansea City are going down ? History talks to us ! on 22:02 - Mar 1 with 755 views | Rhonnda_Jack |
I think you are talking crap.
Rhys Williams was last year
Sorinola is a loan.
Oko flex is a premier league u23
Pato was free
Allen was free | | | |
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