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Welsh Democracy Threatened 08:43 - Sep 19 with 7844 viewsJACKMANANDBOY

Under the proposals to extend the Senedd, where a Senedd member has to resign they will automatically be replaced by their party rather than have a by election.
If they are Independent they will not be replaced leaving the constituency with reduced representation.

Section 91.
If a vacant seat arises (for example, due to a Member resigning or passing away) under a closed proportional list system we would anticipate that this would be filled through the next candidate on a party’s list gaining that seat. Given that this will be a proportional system, we would see little merit in a by-election being run.

[Post edited 19 Sep 2023 22:15]

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Welsh Democracy Threatened on 20:14 - Sep 20 with 1136 viewsKilkennyjack

Welsh Democracy Threatened on 19:21 - Sep 20 by felixstowe_jack

Are the 300,000 living people in Wales who have signed the petition all right Britsh Nationals ?


Many English people have signed the petition as we all know - and yes they most certainly are BritNats.

Welsh people who believe that Wales cannot solve its own issues without ref to Westmonster are also by definition BritNats.

GSTK 🇬🇧 …..

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Welsh Democracy Threatened on 20:16 - Sep 20 with 1135 viewsKilkennyjack

Welsh Democracy Threatened on 20:07 - Sep 20 by Gwyn737

I’d be better off reading it backwards.


Yes, that might help you …..

Or maybe get an adult to read it to you ? 👍

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Welsh Democracy Threatened on 20:18 - Sep 20 with 1135 viewsWhiterockin

Welsh Democracy Threatened on 20:14 - Sep 20 by Kilkennyjack

Many English people have signed the petition as we all know - and yes they most certainly are BritNats.

Welsh people who believe that Wales cannot solve its own issues without ref to Westmonster are also by definition BritNats.

GSTK 🇬🇧 …..


About 10,000 people living in England have signed the petition out of 300,000.
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Welsh Democracy Threatened on 20:21 - Sep 20 with 1122 viewsGwyn737

Welsh Democracy Threatened on 20:16 - Sep 20 by Kilkennyjack

Yes, that might help you …..

Or maybe get an adult to read it to you ? 👍


I’ll give to one of the Reception kids tomorrow.

They have to decode pseudo language using synthetic phonics so they may be able to crack it 🤞
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Welsh Democracy Threatened on 20:29 - Sep 20 with 1111 viewsKilkennyjack

Welsh Democracy Threatened on 20:21 - Sep 20 by Gwyn737

I’ll give to one of the Reception kids tomorrow.

They have to decode pseudo language using synthetic phonics so they may be able to crack it 🤞


Great idea

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Welsh Democracy Threatened on 20:32 - Sep 20 with 1108 viewsKilkennyjack

Welsh Democracy Threatened on 20:18 - Sep 20 by Whiterockin

About 10,000 people living in England have signed the petition out of 300,000.


Any idea why they all decided to sign it ?

Shirley its a decision for the people who live in Wales…?
Unless of course you have an inflated sense of your own self importance.

Felix - have you signed it ?

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Welsh Democracy Threatened on 21:55 - Sep 20 with 1081 viewsmajorraglan

Welsh Democracy Threatened on 20:32 - Sep 20 by Kilkennyjack

Any idea why they all decided to sign it ?

Shirley its a decision for the people who live in Wales…?
Unless of course you have an inflated sense of your own self importance.

Felix - have you signed it ?


Maybe some of them live on the border and are affected by the policy when they venture in to Wales shopping etc.
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Welsh Democracy Threatened on 22:09 - Sep 20 with 1062 viewsWhiterockin

Welsh Democracy Threatened on 21:55 - Sep 20 by majorraglan

Maybe some of them live on the border and are affected by the policy when they venture in to Wales shopping etc.


Or like many live in England and travel to Wales to work.
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Welsh Democracy Threatened on 22:11 - Sep 20 with 1053 viewspencoedjack

Welsh Democracy Threatened on 21:55 - Sep 20 by majorraglan

Maybe some of them live on the border and are affected by the policy when they venture in to Wales shopping etc.


Or maybe Welsh people who have had to move to England for work due to the clowns in Cardiff doing all they can to turn Wales into Albania.
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Welsh Democracy Threatened on 07:25 - Sep 21 with 981 viewsfelixstowe_jack

Welsh Democracy Threatened on 20:32 - Sep 20 by Kilkennyjack

Any idea why they all decided to sign it ?

Shirley its a decision for the people who live in Wales…?
Unless of course you have an inflated sense of your own self importance.

Felix - have you signed it ?


Yes of course because I have a business address in Wales so it directly affects me.

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Welsh Democracy Threatened on 07:29 - Sep 21 with 969 viewsfelixstowe_jack

Welsh Democracy Threatened on 20:18 - Sep 20 by Whiterockin

About 10,000 people living in England have signed the petition out of 300,000.


Is that a fact or fiction. The Senedd petition Web site only records signatures that have a Welsh postcode. Do have a look at it. Nowhere does it record signatures of people living in the rest of the UK.

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Welsh Democracy Threatened on 10:11 - Sep 21 with 954 viewsBadgeman

Welsh Democracy Threatened on 14:35 - Sep 19 by Flashberryjack

I'm sure Drakeford the dictator will find a way to justify it.

Cementing the Senedd into a position where they can never be abolished.


All it takes to abolish the Senedd is an act of Parliament. Have you considered reading books or facts to supplement your anti Welsh belligerence?

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Welsh Democracy Threatened on 10:15 - Sep 21 with 953 viewsBadgeman

Welsh Democracy Threatened on 19:31 - Sep 19 by SullutaCreturned

This has to be challenged any way we can.

Surely the resident Labour acolytes cannot defend this blatant attack on democracy?


Constituencies should not remain upresented. However we currently have a system where Members of the Senedd can leave office and are not replaced via a by-election. Members elected via the list (additional members) are replaced by the person who was on the list below them if they vacate their seat. It’s already happened numerous times in the Senedd.

The most formidable weapon against errors of every kind is reason.
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Welsh Democracy Threatened on 12:34 - Sep 21 with 923 viewsTogg

Welsh Democracy Threatened on 17:48 - Sep 20 by Gwyn737

That’s just a word salad.

I have no idea what you’re on about 🤷🏻


'Word Salad'...love it.
[Post edited 21 Sep 2023 12:34]
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Welsh Democracy Threatened on 12:37 - Sep 21 with 921 viewsTogg

Welsh Democracy Threatened on 21:55 - Sep 20 by majorraglan

Maybe some of them live on the border and are affected by the policy when they venture in to Wales shopping etc.


Many probably work here also.
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Welsh Democracy Threatened on 12:49 - Sep 21 with 912 viewsKilkennyjack

Welsh Democracy Threatened on 07:29 - Sep 21 by felixstowe_jack

Is that a fact or fiction. The Senedd petition Web site only records signatures that have a Welsh postcode. Do have a look at it. Nowhere does it record signatures of people living in the rest of the UK.


So there could be lots of English BritNats signing the petition and we would never know.

Good job Wales is not run be petitions.

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Welsh Democracy Threatened on 12:55 - Sep 21 with 911 viewsonehunglow

Welsh Democracy Threatened on 12:49 - Sep 21 by Kilkennyjack

So there could be lots of English BritNats signing the petition and we would never know.

Good job Wales is not run be petitions.


English Britnats .lol
Up here on the border lands many live in Wales and work in England and vice versa
Why build boundaries
Why the ludicrous enforcement of Welsh in Queensferry where nobody would speak Welsh at all.
There is no need to as the lingua Franca is English
It’s an irritating ,massive issue for many
Why ghe compulsory stipulation to speak Welsh for WG jobs when 1% of the population speaks or wants to know Welsh .
Saltney is in Wales. Go there and you ll see what I mean
Chester ( Caer) post code too.

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Welsh Democracy Threatened on 14:41 - Sep 21 with 876 viewsjohnlangy

Welsh Democracy Threatened on 21:37 - Sep 19 by max936

Virtually making Wales a closed shop, although it has been like that for years, but its verging on a dictatorship by going down the road that they're looking to go down.

36 new posts at a cost of 12 million which could be used for lots of things that need doing, madness.


You say £12 million and someone else said £18 million Max. Where did these numbers come from ?
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Welsh Democracy Threatened on 16:24 - Sep 21 with 845 viewsSullutaCreturned

Welsh Democracy Threatened on 20:10 - Sep 20 by Kilkennyjack

Gwyn might well be a teacher or head teacher - i have no idea.

Are you suggesting that we should check the occupation of posters before we reply in future ?

Not as boring as your usual posts, but a dumb idea for sure.
To be clear …. i am not calling you dumb, the idea you appear to be suggesting is a dumb ass idea.


No, what I'm saying is would you make such a dumb comment to someone who is clearly well educated.

For the avoidance of any doubt, I AM calling you dumb.

The reference to Westminster was because Wales clearly needs saving from these lunatics in the Senedd.

Think back to Brexit, weren't you one of those saying the margin was so fine we shouldn't accept it yet the margin that won devolution was even finer, therefore we should have a re-run....go on, you should support that given your previous stance!

As for boring, what you say is beyond boring because no matter how many times you get shot down you just keep repeating it, you're a less intelligent version of resloven.
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Welsh Democracy Threatened on 16:55 - Sep 21 with 829 viewsfelixstowe_jack

Welsh Democracy Threatened on 12:49 - Sep 21 by Kilkennyjack

So there could be lots of English BritNats signing the petition and we would never know.

Good job Wales is not run be petitions.


8559 have signed the petition in the constituency of the leader of PC so looks like even Welsh Nationalists are signing it.

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Welsh Democracy Threatened on 17:21 - Sep 21 with 804 viewsKilkennyjack

Welsh Democracy Threatened on 12:55 - Sep 21 by onehunglow

English Britnats .lol
Up here on the border lands many live in Wales and work in England and vice versa
Why build boundaries
Why the ludicrous enforcement of Welsh in Queensferry where nobody would speak Welsh at all.
There is no need to as the lingua Franca is English
It’s an irritating ,massive issue for many
Why ghe compulsory stipulation to speak Welsh for WG jobs when 1% of the population speaks or wants to know Welsh .
Saltney is in Wales. Go there and you ll see what I mean
Chester ( Caer) post code too.


Wirral was part of the land claimed by Owain Glyndwr.



Consider yourself as a pilgrim in a foreign land ….

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Welsh Democracy Threatened on 17:23 - Sep 21 with 802 viewsKilkennyjack

Welsh Democracy Threatened on 16:55 - Sep 21 by felixstowe_jack

8559 have signed the petition in the constituency of the leader of PC so looks like even Welsh Nationalists are signing it.


Its for welsh people

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Welsh Democracy Threatened on 17:25 - Sep 21 with 800 viewsKilkennyjack

Welsh Democracy Threatened on 16:24 - Sep 21 by SullutaCreturned

No, what I'm saying is would you make such a dumb comment to someone who is clearly well educated.

For the avoidance of any doubt, I AM calling you dumb.

The reference to Westminster was because Wales clearly needs saving from these lunatics in the Senedd.

Think back to Brexit, weren't you one of those saying the margin was so fine we shouldn't accept it yet the margin that won devolution was even finer, therefore we should have a re-run....go on, you should support that given your previous stance!

As for boring, what you say is beyond boring because no matter how many times you get shot down you just keep repeating it, you're a less intelligent version of resloven.


Boring boring boring …..

I am calling you boring.

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Welsh Democracy Threatened on 07:37 - Sep 22 with 748 viewsfelixstowe_jack

Welsh Democracy Threatened on 17:25 - Sep 21 by Kilkennyjack

Boring boring boring …..

I am calling you boring.


You sound like a 4 year old in a playground having and tantrum.

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Welsh Democracy Threatened on 07:46 - Sep 22 with 746 viewsTogg

Welsh Democracy Threatened on 17:25 - Sep 21 by Kilkennyjack

Boring boring boring …..

I am calling you boring.


It's Vivian from the Young Ones. Quite a puerile reply.
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