| Luke Williams moves in from the outer cold 16:01 - Dec 28 with 7563 views | KeithHaynes |
There will be speculation over the coming days I’m sure. |  |
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| Luke Williams moves in from the outer cold on 11:45 - Dec 29 with 2214 views | Fireboy2 |
| Luke Williams moves in from the outer cold on 10:20 - Dec 29 by angryjack |
Who cares who it is be gone this time next year with a pay off and same sh!t different year,they won't back him no ambition,what is the point.. |
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| Luke Williams moves in from the outer cold on 12:13 - Dec 29 with 2118 views | jack247 |
| Luke Williams moves in from the outer cold on 10:20 - Dec 29 by angryjack |
Who cares who it is be gone this time next year with a pay off and same sh!t different year,they won't back him no ambition,what is the point.. |
Of course. It’s just a case of whether he does well and jumps ship at the first chance he gets, or does badly and we have to pay him off.
I make it 9 since they’ve been here, excluding caretakers.
Monk, Guidolin (unfairly IMO), Bradley, Clement, Duff all sacked.
Potter, Martin poached by bigger clubs (although Martin must have come close).
Cooper walked.
Carvahal contract not renewed. |  | | |
| Luke Williams moves in from the outer cold on 12:21 - Dec 29 with 2092 views | pencoedjack |
| Luke Williams moves in from the outer cold on 10:20 - Dec 29 by angryjack |
Who cares who it is be gone this time next year with a pay off and same sh!t different year,they won't back him no ambition,what is the point.. |
Isn’t that what happens at most clubs?
Do well your picked up by a bigger club
Do crap you’re sacked. |  | | |
| Luke Williams moves in from the outer cold on 12:25 - Dec 29 with 2094 views | jack247 |
| Luke Williams moves in from the outer cold on 12:21 - Dec 29 by pencoedjack |
Isn’t that what happens at most clubs?
Do well your picked up by a bigger club
Do crap you’re sacked. |
Yes. We just do it more often than most clubs and we sack more than we get compensation for.
Remember that glorious run of appointments from Martinez to Laudrup? Great times | | | |
| Luke Williams moves in from the outer cold on 13:10 - Dec 29 with 1998 views | angryjack |
| Luke Williams moves in from the outer cold on 12:21 - Dec 29 by pencoedjack |
Isn’t that what happens at most clubs?
Do well your picked up by a bigger club
Do crap you’re sacked. |
Thing is,there no ambition or even a thought of doing well amongst this lot,any manager with ambition would be mad to come here as it more than probably ruin his c v and he be sacked in 6 months,as he won't get any backing.. | | | |
| Luke Williams moves in from the outer cold on 13:51 - Dec 29 with 1913 views | Boundy |
| Luke Williams moves in from the outer cold on 13:10 - Dec 29 by angryjack |
Thing is,there no ambition or even a thought of doing well amongst this lot,any manager with ambition would be mad to come here as it more than probably ruin his c v and he be sacked in 6 months,as he won't get any backing.. |
That one word "ambition" or the lack of is the catalyst of our problems, yes they talk about having the funds , the where withal to improve the Club yadi da but really, We're in a darker place now than we have been since 2002 and this with so called successful business and sports experts . | |
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| Luke Williams moves in from the outer cold on 13:51 - Dec 29 with 1913 views | Private_Partz |
| Luke Williams moves in from the outer cold on 13:10 - Dec 29 by angryjack |
Thing is,there no ambition or even a thought of doing well amongst this lot,any manager with ambition would be mad to come here as it more than probably ruin his c v and he be sacked in 6 months,as he won't get any backing.. |
I agree with most of that but we are not a managerial graveyard. The opposite in fact as other teams can clearly see when we have appointed a gem and they tend to go for them.
Sadly our owners would not recognise, or support, progress if t hit then over the head with a mallet.
It will not surprise me if Martin becomes part of a growing list of Swansea bosses who have made it to the Premier League. |  |
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| Luke Williams moves in from the outer cold on 15:03 - Dec 29 with 1778 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
| Luke Williams moves in from the outer cold on 13:51 - Dec 29 by Private_Partz |
I agree with most of that but we are not a managerial graveyard. The opposite in fact as other teams can clearly see when we have appointed a gem and they tend to go for them.
Sadly our owners would not recognise, or support, progress if t hit then over the head with a mallet.
It will not surprise me if Martin becomes part of a growing list of Swansea bosses who have made it to the Premier League. |
Martin and Cooper defaulted on their contracts and theoretically could have be sued by the club.
Martin is an appalling character. He defaulted on his own contract then bettered himself with out paying he proper compensation for breaking his deal. Southampton will eventually pay Swansea so the Martin himself does not pay it.
Were Southampton a Premier league cub when they signed up Martin ?? Yes they were PAY UP. If SFC refuse to pay perhaps SCFC can go after Martin himself. It was him that signed the deal. It was him that broke it. The harsh words Martin had from the owners may relate to this. |  |
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| Luke Williams moves in from the outer cold on 15:12 - Dec 29 with 1767 views | Whiterockin |
| Luke Williams moves in from the outer cold on 15:03 - Dec 29 by ReslovenSwan1 |
Martin and Cooper defaulted on their contracts and theoretically could have be sued by the club.
Martin is an appalling character. He defaulted on his own contract then bettered himself with out paying he proper compensation for breaking his deal. Southampton will eventually pay Swansea so the Martin himself does not pay it.
Were Southampton a Premier league cub when they signed up Martin ?? Yes they were PAY UP. If SFC refuse to pay perhaps SCFC can go after Martin himself. It was him that signed the deal. It was him that broke it. The harsh words Martin had from the owners may relate to this. |
Cooper was on gardening leave when he left. Martin was given permission by the club to speak to Southampton. It saved them paying him off and they will have compensation in time. |  | | |
| Luke Williams moves in from the outer cold on 15:46 - Dec 29 with 1700 views | KeithHaynes |
| Luke Williams moves in from the outer cold on 15:03 - Dec 29 by ReslovenSwan1 |
Martin and Cooper defaulted on their contracts and theoretically could have be sued by the club.
Martin is an appalling character. He defaulted on his own contract then bettered himself with out paying he proper compensation for breaking his deal. Southampton will eventually pay Swansea so the Martin himself does not pay it.
Were Southampton a Premier league cub when they signed up Martin ?? Yes they were PAY UP. If SFC refuse to pay perhaps SCFC can go after Martin himself. It was him that signed the deal. It was him that broke it. The harsh words Martin had from the owners may relate to this. |
Please read our report one day after the Wembley play off final.
You may be enlightened. | |
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| Luke Williams moves in from the outer cold on 17:53 - Dec 29 with 1488 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
| Luke Williams moves in from the outer cold on 15:12 - Dec 29 by Whiterockin |
Cooper was on gardening leave when he left. Martin was given permission by the club to speak to Southampton. It saved them paying him off and they will have compensation in time. |
Cooper agreed to take the team through pre-season. Forest paid the required compensation which fully released Cooper from his obligations.
Martin declined to fly out to the USA to meet the ownership and started work before Southampton honoured his contract at Swansea. They still have not. Southampton were a Premiership club. As a Premiership club they have parachutes payments and sold £150m worth of players. They would not have had those fees as a Championship club.
Martin then on the weekend blows wind up the Welsh fans backsides and slags off the American owners. Many fans on here will lap up the buttering up and turn on their own. I recall Simon Jordan explaining how Benitez did the same thing at Newcastle. | |
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| Luke Williams moves in from the outer cold on 18:25 - Dec 29 with 1453 views | KeithHaynes |
| Luke Williams moves in from the outer cold on 17:53 - Dec 29 by ReslovenSwan1 |
Cooper agreed to take the team through pre-season. Forest paid the required compensation which fully released Cooper from his obligations.
Martin declined to fly out to the USA to meet the ownership and started work before Southampton honoured his contract at Swansea. They still have not. Southampton were a Premiership club. As a Premiership club they have parachutes payments and sold £150m worth of players. They would not have had those fees as a Championship club.
Martin then on the weekend blows wind up the Welsh fans backsides and slags off the American owners. Many fans on here will lap up the buttering up and turn on their own. I recall Simon Jordan explaining how Benitez did the same thing at Newcastle. |
Cooper went to Forest yes.
But he had been released from his contract and paid off. | |
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| Luke Williams moves in from the outer cold on 18:27 - Dec 29 with 1447 views | BillyChong |
| Luke Williams moves in from the outer cold on 17:53 - Dec 29 by ReslovenSwan1 |
Cooper agreed to take the team through pre-season. Forest paid the required compensation which fully released Cooper from his obligations.
Martin declined to fly out to the USA to meet the ownership and started work before Southampton honoured his contract at Swansea. They still have not. Southampton were a Premiership club. As a Premiership club they have parachutes payments and sold £150m worth of players. They would not have had those fees as a Championship club.
Martin then on the weekend blows wind up the Welsh fans backsides and slags off the American owners. Many fans on here will lap up the buttering up and turn on their own. I recall Simon Jordan explaining how Benitez did the same thing at Newcastle. |
Can you honestly blame Martin after the disastrous January transfer window? Claims from those above him of ‘preparing since the autumn’ etc only to be left with a weaker squad mid season.
Steve, Jason, Jake et al were noticeably missing from the farewell gathering Martin held back in Swansea. | | | |
| Luke Williams moves in from the outer cold on 19:08 - Dec 29 with 1379 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
| Luke Williams moves in from the outer cold on 18:27 - Dec 29 by BillyChong |
Can you honestly blame Martin after the disastrous January transfer window? Claims from those above him of ‘preparing since the autumn’ etc only to be left with a weaker squad mid season.
Steve, Jason, Jake et al were noticeably missing from the farewell gathering Martin held back in Swansea. |
The window was not disastrous. Cardiff only signed one player. Most clubs only signed one player Sheff Utd did not sign anyone. Money is tight in the Championship.
It was disastrous for Martin who had fallen out with TWO of his three forwards. Patterson and Obafemi. Whitaker was sent back but he had issues with him as well.
Martin like lots of signing to obscure his fairings as a coach. When he got his head down and used whet he had he got better results. He had enough good player to get top six.
Explosive talents. Obafemi Ntcham, Piroe, Patterson Whitaker. Cullen and Cooper as back up. | |
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| Luke Williams moves in from the outer cold on 19:18 - Dec 29 with 1351 views | KeithHaynes |
FYI
 Steve Cooper will be given an ultimatum today. Stay and do your job - or go ! 2nd Jun 2021 08:00In a Swansea Independent EXCLUSIVE we can reveal today that Steve Cooper will be given a simple ultimatum this morning, and it isn’t hard to understand. Quite simply Cooper, who has been stalling on his Swansea future with numerous clubs after his signature will be told very clear. You are under contract, talk to us about your immediate future as a Swansea City coach, or move on and make sure the club you speak to can compensate your leaving.  0
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| Luke Williams moves in from the outer cold on 19:51 - Dec 29 with 1268 views | QJumpingJack |
| Luke Williams moves in from the outer cold on 15:03 - Dec 29 by ReslovenSwan1 |
Martin and Cooper defaulted on their contracts and theoretically could have be sued by the club.
Martin is an appalling character. He defaulted on his own contract then bettered himself with out paying he proper compensation for breaking his deal. Southampton will eventually pay Swansea so the Martin himself does not pay it.
Were Southampton a Premier league cub when they signed up Martin ?? Yes they were PAY UP. If SFC refuse to pay perhaps SCFC can go after Martin himself. It was him that signed the deal. It was him that broke it. The harsh words Martin had from the owners may relate to this. |
"Martin is an appalling character"
wow. can you back that up? | | | |
| Luke Williams moves in from the outer cold on 20:06 - Dec 29 with 1237 views | KeithHaynes |
| Luke Williams moves in from the outer cold on 19:08 - Dec 29 by ReslovenSwan1 |
The window was not disastrous. Cardiff only signed one player. Most clubs only signed one player Sheff Utd did not sign anyone. Money is tight in the Championship.
It was disastrous for Martin who had fallen out with TWO of his three forwards. Patterson and Obafemi. Whitaker was sent back but he had issues with him as well.
Martin like lots of signing to obscure his fairings as a coach. When he got his head down and used whet he had he got better results. He had enough good player to get top six.
Explosive talents. Obafemi Ntcham, Piroe, Patterson Whitaker. Cullen and Cooper as back up. |
Certain players don’t have the intelligence to grasp opportunities when they are in front of them. | |
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| Luke Williams moves in from the outer cold on 20:13 - Dec 29 with 1212 views | Whiterockin |
| Luke Williams moves in from the outer cold on 20:06 - Dec 29 by KeithHaynes |
Certain players don’t have the intelligence to grasp opportunities when they are in front of them. |
And often it's agents pumping their ears full of shite. | | | |
| Luke Williams moves in from the outer cold on 20:20 - Dec 29 with 1195 views | QJumpingJack |
| Luke Williams moves in from the outer cold on 17:53 - Dec 29 by ReslovenSwan1 |
Cooper agreed to take the team through pre-season. Forest paid the required compensation which fully released Cooper from his obligations.
Martin declined to fly out to the USA to meet the ownership and started work before Southampton honoured his contract at Swansea. They still have not. Southampton were a Premiership club. As a Premiership club they have parachutes payments and sold £150m worth of players. They would not have had those fees as a Championship club.
Martin then on the weekend blows wind up the Welsh fans backsides and slags off the American owners. Many fans on here will lap up the buttering up and turn on their own. I recall Simon Jordan explaining how Benitez did the same thing at Newcastle. |
source on Martin declining to fly to the USA please? Is this 100% accurate?
As compensation is still being discussed your claim is quite significant. | | | |
| Luke Williams moves in from the outer cold on 20:30 - Dec 29 with 1167 views | Whiterockin |
| Luke Williams moves in from the outer cold on 20:20 - Dec 29 by QJumpingJack |
source on Martin declining to fly to the USA please? Is this 100% accurate?
As compensation is still being discussed your claim is quite significant. |
Don't listen to him. Martin was told that if he was interested in talking to Southampton not too fly out. The Americans could smell the £££s. | | | |
| Luke Williams moves in from the outer cold on 20:38 - Dec 29 with 1142 views | majorraglan |
| Luke Williams moves in from the outer cold on 19:08 - Dec 29 by ReslovenSwan1 |
The window was not disastrous. Cardiff only signed one player. Most clubs only signed one player Sheff Utd did not sign anyone. Money is tight in the Championship.
It was disastrous for Martin who had fallen out with TWO of his three forwards. Patterson and Obafemi. Whitaker was sent back but he had issues with him as well.
Martin like lots of signing to obscure his fairings as a coach. When he got his head down and used whet he had he got better results. He had enough good player to get top six.
Explosive talents. Obafemi Ntcham, Piroe, Patterson Whitaker. Cullen and Cooper as back up. |
“The window was not disastrous …..”. “It was disastrous for Martin…”. I’d say as Martin was manager of the clubs first team, what was disastrous for him in terms of not getting players in equates to a disaster.
“Whitaker was sent back” - that’s not my recollection, I thought he’d been brought back to be sold. | | | |
| Luke Williams moves in from the outer cold on 20:40 - Dec 29 with 1115 views | KeithHaynes |
| Luke Williams moves in from the outer cold on 20:38 - Dec 29 by majorraglan |
“The window was not disastrous …..”. “It was disastrous for Martin…”. I’d say as Martin was manager of the clubs first team, what was disastrous for him in terms of not getting players in equates to a disaster.
“Whitaker was sent back” - that’s not my recollection, I thought he’d been brought back to be sold. |
Which is correct, and I can assure anyone who cares to listen Martin was stopped from including him in the match day squad on three occasions. | |
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| Luke Williams moves in from the outer cold on 22:07 - Dec 29 with 1003 views | yatesie3 |
| Luke Williams moves in from the outer cold on 08:28 - Dec 29 by OptimisticJack |
This post should be removed. |
That's fine if you wanted to remove my post. Doesn't hide the fact it's why he left | | | |
| Luke Williams moves in from the outer cold on 22:12 - Dec 29 with 978 views | jack247 |
| Luke Williams moves in from the outer cold on 20:38 - Dec 29 by majorraglan |
“The window was not disastrous …..”. “It was disastrous for Martin…”. I’d say as Martin was manager of the clubs first team, what was disastrous for him in terms of not getting players in equates to a disaster.
“Whitaker was sent back” - that’s not my recollection, I thought he’d been brought back to be sold. |
He didn’t want to come back
Martin didn’t want him to
Plymouth didn’t want him to
You’re 100% correct. Dragged back kicking and screaming would probably be more accurate | | | |
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