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Manipulation of Vipotnik’s availability 11:48 - Apr 17 with 4143 viewsKeithHaynes

The BBC report in their headline that Matos states there is interest in Vipotnik.

https://www.bbc.com/sport/foot

The reality is he didn’t say that at all.

"He's a good player scoring goals so I believe there's interest of other clubs, that's normal," said Swansea head coach Matos.

Don't get hoodwinked into believing these headlines.

Nothing against Gareth at all, but whoever wrote that headline is coercing people to believe it is fact.


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Manipulation of Vipotnik’s availability on 13:04 - Apr 17 with 3956 viewsswancity

That’s splitting hairs.

There is interest. Of course there is. It’s trivial to make the distinction quite honestly. No one is getting “ hood winked “. The facts are clear and obvious.

His value is in doubt though. After a superb season it might be a good time to cash in for around £15m. Possibly a bit more if we are lucky.

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Manipulation of Vipotnik’s availability on 13:22 - Apr 17 with 3899 viewsWhiterockin

Manipulation of Vipotnik’s availability on 13:04 - Apr 17 by swancity

That’s splitting hairs.

There is interest. Of course there is. It’s trivial to make the distinction quite honestly. No one is getting “ hood winked “. The facts are clear and obvious.

His value is in doubt though. After a superb season it might be a good time to cash in for around £15m. Possibly a bit more if we are lucky.


Matos was obviously right about there being interest, it just comes down to who follows it up and makes an offer.
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Manipulation of Vipotnik’s availability on 13:22 - Apr 17 with 3872 viewsonehunglow

Manipulation of Vipotnik’s availability on 13:04 - Apr 17 by swancity

That’s splitting hairs.

There is interest. Of course there is. It’s trivial to make the distinction quite honestly. No one is getting “ hood winked “. The facts are clear and obvious.

His value is in doubt though. After a superb season it might be a good time to cash in for around £15m. Possibly a bit more if we are lucky.


15 m is insulting
Ludicrous
25 m
Minimum
He’s the real deal , young and a terrific team man

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Manipulation of Vipotnik’s availability on 13:25 - Apr 17 with 3871 viewsWhiterockin

Manipulation of Vipotnik’s availability on 13:22 - Apr 17 by onehunglow

15 m is insulting
Ludicrous
25 m
Minimum
He’s the real deal , young and a terrific team man


We won't get an initial payment of £25M, possibly that figure with unachievable add ons.
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Manipulation of Vipotnik’s availability on 13:59 - Apr 17 with 3757 viewsunion_jack

Manipulation of Vipotnik’s availability on 13:25 - Apr 17 by Whiterockin

We won't get an initial payment of £25M, possibly that figure with unachievable add ons.


And even then…

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Manipulation of Vipotnik’s availability on 14:00 - Apr 17 with 3731 viewsonehunglow

Manipulation of Vipotnik’s availability on 13:25 - Apr 17 by Whiterockin

We won't get an initial payment of £25M, possibly that figure with unachievable add ons.


His value no matter how it’s paid should IMO be as Zive said
We don’t need to sell him “ cheap”

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Manipulation of Vipotnik’s availability on 14:08 - Apr 17 with 3709 viewsAnotherJohn

To me there is a real dilemma, when you have a player who is clicking, whether to cash in or see said player as a key element in a future promotion push. I can't help thinking that in the season where Brentford pipped us and went up, having Vip alongside Ayew would have made the required difference. Now we are weaker in other areas and need to spend there, but finding a goalscorer to take chances others make is the hardest thing of all.
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Manipulation of Vipotnik’s availability on 14:20 - Apr 17 with 3673 viewsKeithHaynes

Manipulation of Vipotnik’s availability on 13:04 - Apr 17 by swancity

That’s splitting hairs.

There is interest. Of course there is. It’s trivial to make the distinction quite honestly. No one is getting “ hood winked “. The facts are clear and obvious.

His value is in doubt though. After a superb season it might be a good time to cash in for around £15m. Possibly a bit more if we are lucky.


If you think that a headline that states there is interest because Matos says so and the text is ‘I believe there is interest’ is ok then so be it. You try putting that text into any subject you care to mention and it is incorrect.

His value isn’t in doubt because the club have not placed any value on him as we reported the other day.

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Manipulation of Vipotnik’s availability on 14:22 - Apr 17 with 3657 viewsKeithHaynes

Manipulation of Vipotnik’s availability on 13:22 - Apr 17 by Whiterockin

Matos was obviously right about there being interest, it just comes down to who follows it up and makes an offer.


I’m referring to the headline compared to the text, nothing more.

It isn’t criticising Matos, because he ‘believes’ there is interest, the headline tells you there is. If people are happy with that then they have a lower standard of proof than we do at the Indy.

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Really 😡 very angry at the news.

“Oh well, I believe so”

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Manipulation of Vipotnik’s availability on 14:24 - Apr 17 with 3634 viewshobo

Manipulation of Vipotnik’s availability on 13:22 - Apr 17 by onehunglow

15 m is insulting
Ludicrous
25 m
Minimum
He’s the real deal , young and a terrific team man


A good year in Portugal or Italy and you're looking at a £60m sale the following season, and everyone complaining we only got £15m for him
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Manipulation of Vipotnik’s availability on 14:55 - Apr 17 with 3537 viewsKeithHaynes

I will leave my input with this. BTW keep adding to the thread, opinions are what it’s all about.


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Manipulation of Vipotnik’s availability on 15:42 - Apr 17 with 3451 viewsncswan

If Vip continues to add to his 21-goal tally with 4 games to go, then he will definitely attract interest, if it isn't already there. The fact that he extended his contract allows owners to put a nice price tag on him when the appropriate time to do so. I'm sure the owners / management are making all talk and interest from all clubs transparent to Vip and his agent; and vice-versa too! Bottom line is: Swans are in a good position at the moment. Think what £25-30M would allow the club to do!
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Manipulation of Vipotnik’s availability on 16:40 - Apr 17 with 3381 viewsswancity

Manipulation of Vipotnik’s availability on 14:20 - Apr 17 by KeithHaynes

If you think that a headline that states there is interest because Matos says so and the text is ‘I believe there is interest’ is ok then so be it. You try putting that text into any subject you care to mention and it is incorrect.

His value isn’t in doubt because the club have not placed any value on him as we reported the other day.

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You’re making a mountain out a relative molehill. It’s not even a molehill.

You seem to be looking for things.

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Manipulation of Vipotnik’s availability on 16:54 - Apr 17 with 3337 viewsnantywatcher

I just hope the coaching team that transformed him from a bulk standard National League player to being the top scorer in the Championship get rewarded financially for their efforts. Vip came back at the start of this season with his bad habits knocked out of him, and a new attitude and awareness of what was needed to improve his game. He needed to change and the man has taken it all on board and those that created the new VIP should surely get some benefit?
(£15mill price tag seems about right to me.)
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Manipulation of Vipotnik’s availability on 18:00 - Apr 17 with 3262 viewsjohnlangy

Manipulation of Vipotnik’s availability on 16:54 - Apr 17 by nantywatcher

I just hope the coaching team that transformed him from a bulk standard National League player to being the top scorer in the Championship get rewarded financially for their efforts. Vip came back at the start of this season with his bad habits knocked out of him, and a new attitude and awareness of what was needed to improve his game. He needed to change and the man has taken it all on board and those that created the new VIP should surely get some benefit?
(£15mill price tag seems about right to me.)


Not to me (£15mill). As someone else said, goalscorers are the most treasured players and in the most demand.
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Manipulation of Vipotnik’s availability on 19:21 - Apr 17 with 3170 viewsKeithHaynes

Manipulation of Vipotnik’s availability on 16:40 - Apr 17 by swancity

You’re making a mountain out a relative molehill. It’s not even a molehill.

You seem to be looking for things.


Yes, we search for the truth, not false headlines👍

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Manipulation of Vipotnik’s availability on 19:23 - Apr 17 with 3152 viewsonehunglow

Manipulation of Vipotnik’s availability on 18:00 - Apr 17 by johnlangy

Not to me (£15mill). As someone else said, goalscorers are the most treasured players and in the most demand.


We do not have to do cheap

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Manipulation of Vipotnik’s availability on 10:23 - Apr 18 with 2923 viewsjacksfullaces

I think we know he is going. I think we would all like the maximum return. Guess if we were masters of business we would be running the club! They will do their best I am sure. Looking at the current accounts they may have to. A useful reminder that we will be needing very careful management of funds to find the talent and system to progress. Very tough for us to really kick on, a lot of things need to come together. We almost need 6 or 7 marketable players rather than 1 or 2, so that we don't keep being a one step forward, 2 steps back club. It might be that Idah proves to be a useful buy with a season to settle in, the same way Vipi did. Remember he was one foot out the door this time last year as a player that had not met expectations!
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Manipulation of Vipotnik’s availability on 12:59 - Apr 18 with 2850 viewsQJumpingJack

Once certain clubs know what division they will be in next season & the transfer window opens then one should expect Vipotnik to move on.
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Manipulation of Vipotnik’s availability on 17:17 - Apr 18 with 2781 viewsReslovenSwan1

McBurnie went for £18m+ about 7-8 years ago. Gyorkeres £20m, 4 seasons ago, I would allow for 50% inflation. £27m an thank-you in advance.

I still think Swansea were negligent in letting Gyorkeres walk away from a loan to buy but Piroe came in shortly after. It could be argued Coventry built a promotion squad off the Gyorkeres money.

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Manipulation of Vipotnik’s availability on 19:57 - Apr 20 with 2509 viewsQJumpingJack

It will be interesting to see which Premier League agents and managers will be in the main stand at QPR tomorrow night. There will be a few...
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Manipulation of Vipotnik’s availability on 20:16 - Apr 20 with 2476 viewsKeithHaynes

Manipulation of Vipotnik’s availability on 19:57 - Apr 20 by QJumpingJack

It will be interesting to see which Premier League agents and managers will be in the main stand at QPR tomorrow night. There will be a few...


Swans won’t engage with them.

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Manipulation of Vipotnik’s availability on 06:56 - Apr 29 with 2155 viewsWhiterockin

Another BBC article with some interesting figures regarding Championship forwards from the past. Some of the comments just make no sense.


https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/fo
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Manipulation of Vipotnik’s availability on 09:07 - Apr 29 with 2060 viewsDemitrius

Manipulation of Vipotnik’s availability on 06:56 - Apr 29 by Whiterockin

Another BBC article with some interesting figures regarding Championship forwards from the past. Some of the comments just make no sense.


https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/fo


Yes some right divs on there as always who obviously haven't seen him play more than once - I was tempted to tell them to look at his first 20 goals on You Tube as it shows how he's a clinical striker and only goal 20 is a penalty. We've had an unusual amount of them in April which has influenced opinion.


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