| Makerfield election 09:29 - Jun 19 with 5251 views | onehunglow | Not much traction or comment on this topic This could be a significant result that will have massive impact on the whole country |  |
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| Makerfield election on 15:27 - Jun 19 with 1086 views | raynor94 |
| Makerfield election on 14:34 - Jun 19 by Scotia | I'm not left wing, but I am happy Reform lost. |
I wouldn't want reform in government either but under Burnham get set for a big boost in welfare payments |  |
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| Makerfield election on 15:31 - Jun 19 with 1069 views | trampie |
| Makerfield election on 11:58 - Jun 19 by Joesus_Of_Narbereth | The GE threat is probably the only card Starmer has left to play in order to cling to power. Launch a coup against me and I’ll call an election immediately. Labour have zero chance of winning and they know it and it’s probably Burnham’s last chance for the top job. There’ll be plenty of “negotiations” over the next few days/weeks. Strap in this is about to get messy. |
I seen a poll a few weeks ago (YouGov i think it was) when it was known that Burnham was going to stand in Makerfield. When asked who people would vote for in the next General Election with Starmer Labour leader, Reform came out on top, when asked who people would vote for in the next General Election with Burnham Labour leader then Labour came out top. Yes based on that poll with Burnham Labour party leader then Labour would win the next General Election. |  |
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| Makerfield election on 16:13 - Jun 19 with 1034 views | ReslovenSwan1 | His promoter in the BBC this afternoon was using world like "change" and "resetting" and "communicating" but only came up a with very tired suggestion. More taxes on assets but nothing on trimming the ballooning welfare are budget. More of the same with improved spin. Get more money off workers and give it to those not working. Workers vote and want to see an holistic approach. I du not mind paying tax if the recipient s are pressured to contribute. [Post edited 19 Jun 16:16]
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| Makerfield election on 17:09 - Jun 19 with 983 views | onehunglow |
| Makerfield election on 16:13 - Jun 19 by ReslovenSwan1 | His promoter in the BBC this afternoon was using world like "change" and "resetting" and "communicating" but only came up a with very tired suggestion. More taxes on assets but nothing on trimming the ballooning welfare are budget. More of the same with improved spin. Get more money off workers and give it to those not working. Workers vote and want to see an holistic approach. I du not mind paying tax if the recipient s are pressured to contribute. [Post edited 19 Jun 16:16]
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That’s absolutely on the money Burnham would ensure those on modest wages would pay for those who can’t even be arsed to get out of bed The rich can only be shafted so much We are on deep doo doo |  |
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| Makerfield election on 17:41 - Jun 19 with 925 views | JACKMANANDBOY |
| Makerfield election on 17:09 - Jun 19 by onehunglow | That’s absolutely on the money Burnham would ensure those on modest wages would pay for those who can’t even be arsed to get out of bed The rich can only be shafted so much We are on deep doo doo |
We are not shafting the rich, we are squeezing SMEs and those who work. |  |
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| Makerfield election on 17:47 - Jun 19 with 921 views | raynor94 |
| Makerfield election on 15:31 - Jun 19 by trampie | I seen a poll a few weeks ago (YouGov i think it was) when it was known that Burnham was going to stand in Makerfield. When asked who people would vote for in the next General Election with Starmer Labour leader, Reform came out on top, when asked who people would vote for in the next General Election with Burnham Labour leader then Labour came out top. Yes based on that poll with Burnham Labour party leader then Labour would win the next General Election. |
There's no way a left wing party will win the next general election Labour never seem to learn their lesson all those years in the wilderness and now they are back and are self imploding again |  |
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| Makerfield election on 18:17 - Jun 19 with 878 views | trampie |
| Makerfield election on 17:47 - Jun 19 by raynor94 | There's no way a left wing party will win the next general election Labour never seem to learn their lesson all those years in the wilderness and now they are back and are self imploding again |
Labour are not a left wing party. |  |
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| Makerfield election on 18:20 - Jun 19 with 865 views | trampie |
| Makerfield election on 17:09 - Jun 19 by onehunglow | That’s absolutely on the money Burnham would ensure those on modest wages would pay for those who can’t even be arsed to get out of bed The rich can only be shafted so much We are on deep doo doo |
Pay attention at the back, they are not shafting the very rich, they are shafting ordinary people. |  |
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| Makerfield election on 18:28 - Jun 19 with 872 views | onehunglow |
| Makerfield election on 17:41 - Jun 19 by JACKMANANDBOY | We are not shafting the rich, we are squeezing SMEs and those who work. |
Mate I know I was just pointing out the narrative of many |  |
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| Makerfield election on 19:07 - Jun 19 with 847 views | raynor94 |
| Makerfield election on 18:17 - Jun 19 by trampie | Labour are not a left wing party. |
Burnham and his cohorts aren't left wing? |  |
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| Makerfield election on 19:34 - Jun 19 with 817 views | Whiterockin |
| Makerfield election on 17:47 - Jun 19 by raynor94 | There's no way a left wing party will win the next general election Labour never seem to learn their lesson all those years in the wilderness and now they are back and are self imploding again |
Exactly that is why Labour have moved the the centre or they wouldn't have been elected last time. They are unlikely to be elected next time, move to the left and they have no chance. |  | |  |
| Makerfield election on 19:42 - Jun 19 with 813 views | raynor94 |
| Makerfield election on 19:34 - Jun 19 by Whiterockin | Exactly that is why Labour have moved the the centre or they wouldn't have been elected last time. They are unlikely to be elected next time, move to the left and they have no chance. |
Which is exactly what's going to happen under Burnham |  |
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| Makerfield election on 19:45 - Jun 19 with 811 views | max936 |
| Makerfield election on 10:08 - Jun 19 by Whiterockin | A by-election called solely to get Burnham elected to get rid of Starmer and it was achieved, this result will have no bearing on a GE. Labour now have a decision to make, change leader and change policies or just change leader. Any leadership challenge will mean prospective leaders will need to set out their plans for their party if elected. If these proposals differ dramatically from current policies and the last Labour GE manifesto there will need to be a GE called. Interesting times ahead. [Post edited 19 Jun 10:10]
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Burnham is soft left whateverthe feck that means, but he could be worse than Starmer, seems impossible I know, but it could very well happen, if he comes in and puts the British people first he might be a winner at the moment we are treated like 2nd class citizens who pay for everything and get nothing in return. |  | |  |
| Makerfield election on 19:47 - Jun 19 with 804 views | max936 |
| Makerfield election on 09:42 - Jun 19 by johnlangy | Brilliant result in so many ways. Reform beaten for a start and by such a large margin, which considering their wins in the local elections just a month ago, is remarkable. It would be different if Burnham had scraped a win but his winning with such a margin will definitely make ALL Labour MP's sit up and think what he may be able to do across the whole of the UK. |
What difference is he gonna make to the hardworking taxpayer, ? |  | |  |
| Makerfield election on 19:49 - Jun 19 with 801 views | max936 |
| Makerfield election on 10:55 - Jun 19 by Demitrius | This was all about wanting Starmer out rather than Burnham in The public cannot stand him as he has all the charisma of a pint of lukewarm pish and makes John Major look like Marlon Brando in comparison. His incompetent clueless cabinet are even worse If Restore had withdrawn Reform would still have lost. This, like the Aberdeen result had mitigating circumstances and should not be seen as a trend |
Great post Dem. |  | |  |
| Makerfield election on 19:56 - Jun 19 with 789 views | max936 |
| Makerfield election on 13:28 - Jun 19 by raynor94 | Brilliant result? For who this is a return to left wing policies that banished Labour from power for years, no way will Labour win a general election under Burnham in my opinion. I can see Corbyn being welcomed back in the fold, Mcdonnell was in happy tears this morning |
Exactly not the Taxpayer that's for sure. The left will never learn Rayn's, they can continue to ruin the country even more than it is now and they'll put their heads in the sand and still passionately vote and support them. |  | |  |
| Makerfield election on 20:04 - Jun 19 with 778 views | max936 |
| Makerfield election on 14:26 - Jun 19 by raynor94 | Ah another happy left wing supporter |
He's a centreist I'll have you know, he just hides it, not! |  | |  |
| Makerfield election on 20:24 - Jun 19 with 759 views | onehunglow |
| Makerfield election on 20:04 - Jun 19 by max936 | He's a centreist I'll have you know, he just hides it, not! |
My piss is now boiled Everyone no matter their political persuasion should be able to pass comment without cretinous comments All politicians are vermin There |  |
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| Makerfield election on 20:24 - Jun 19 with 759 views | onehunglow |
| Makerfield election on 20:04 - Jun 19 by max936 | He's a centreist I'll have you know, he just hides it, not! |
My piss is now boiled Everyone no matter their political persuasion should be able to pass comment without cretinous comments All politicians are vermin There |  |
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| Makerfield election on 21:35 - Jun 19 with 730 views | Scotia |
| Makerfield election on 20:04 - Jun 19 by max936 | He's a centreist I'll have you know, he just hides it, not! |
And a realist. |  | |  |
| Makerfield election on 21:47 - Jun 19 with 724 views | onehunglow |
| Makerfield election on 21:35 - Jun 19 by Scotia | And a realist. |
I think , if challenged, Starmerceould call a snap GE He will do anything to stop AB getting the job even if that means his party getting wiped out at the GE , as would be the case Starmer a devious bastard Burnham a grifting opportunist but a good orator who says the “ right” things |  |
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| Makerfield election on 22:05 - Jun 19 with 711 views | Scotia |
| Makerfield election on 21:47 - Jun 19 by onehunglow | I think , if challenged, Starmerceould call a snap GE He will do anything to stop AB getting the job even if that means his party getting wiped out at the GE , as would be the case Starmer a devious bastard Burnham a grifting opportunist but a good orator who says the “ right” things |
We'll see. What the country really needs is Badenoch to park the far(ISH) right guff. Or an actual centrist party. The Lib Dems are missing an open goal. |  | |  |
| Makerfield election on 23:16 - Jun 19 with 669 views | max936 |
| Makerfield election on 21:35 - Jun 19 by Scotia | And a realist. |
A realist about what??? |  | |  |
| Makerfield election on 23:49 - Jun 19 with 650 views | Gwyn737 |
| Makerfield election on 21:35 - Jun 19 by Scotia | And a realist. |
I think you are a realist. Most of the centrists have given up on here with a few noticeable exceptions, The non football board is full of posters who say they keep being called right wing (even though they rarely are on here) while using slights like loonies and thickos. |  | |  |
| Makerfield election on 00:05 - Jun 20 with 630 views | max936 |
| Makerfield election on 20:24 - Jun 19 by onehunglow | My piss is now boiled Everyone no matter their political persuasion should be able to pass comment without cretinous comments All politicians are vermin There |
Cretinous comments?? |  | |  |
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