| the Gray Report 18:46 - Jan 25 with 4640 views | britferry |
she's finished it by all accounts, Boris has his tipex out at the ready.
I hope its published tomorrow morning, just in time for PMQs
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| the Gray Report on 18:48 - Jan 25 with 2322 views | CountyJim |
It's delayed now because of police investigations |  | | |
| the Gray Report on 18:58 - Jan 25 with 2297 views | PawelAbbott |
| the Gray Report on 18:48 - Jan 25 by CountyJim |
It's delayed now because of police investigations |
Peston is reporting that it is done this evening.
I still can't see Boris quitting though.
He will squirm his way out of it as usual | | | |
| the Gray Report on 19:04 - Jan 25 with 2285 views | CountyJim |
| the Gray Report on 18:58 - Jan 25 by PawelAbbott |
Peston is reporting that it is done this evening.
I still can't see Boris quitting though.
He will squirm his way out of it as usual |
According to radio news its delayed | | | |
| the Gray Report on 19:36 - Jan 25 with 2223 views | Flashberryjack |
| the Gray Report on 18:58 - Jan 25 by PawelAbbott |
Peston is reporting that it is done this evening.
I still can't see Boris quitting though.
He will squirm his way out of it as usual |
I don't see him getting out of this one, it's not only about Boris's self preservation now, it's about all Tory MP's personal preservation.
They'll be abandoning ship faster than rats off a ferret infested Titanic.
His only hope now, is if someone leaks photos of Starmer sh*gging Angela Rayner whilst sniffing white powder from £50 notes at a secret Labour party piss up during full lock down. |  |
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| the Gray Report on 20:33 - Jan 25 with 2202 views | pencoedjack |
| the Gray Report on 19:36 - Jan 25 by Flashberryjack |
I don't see him getting out of this one, it's not only about Boris's self preservation now, it's about all Tory MP's personal preservation.
They'll be abandoning ship faster than rats off a ferret infested Titanic.
His only hope now, is if someone leaks photos of Starmer sh*gging Angela Rayner whilst sniffing white powder from £50 notes at a secret Labour party piss up during full lock down. |
I’m far from left wing but Rayner does if for me big time. [Post edited 25 Jan 2022 20:33]
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| the Gray Report on 20:37 - Jan 25 with 2191 views | onehunglow |
| the Gray Report on 19:36 - Jan 25 by Flashberryjack |
I don't see him getting out of this one, it's not only about Boris's self preservation now, it's about all Tory MP's personal preservation.
They'll be abandoning ship faster than rats off a ferret infested Titanic.
His only hope now, is if someone leaks photos of Starmer sh*gging Angela Rayner whilst sniffing white powder from £50 notes at a secret Labour party piss up during full lock down. |
Appalling thought that.
Now Lizz Truss wouldnt be different | |
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| the Gray Report on 20:43 - Jan 25 with 2173 views | Flashberryjack |
| the Gray Report on 20:33 - Jan 25 by pencoedjack |
I’m far from left wing but Rayner does if for me big time. [Post edited 25 Jan 2022 20:33]
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Have some respect for your member mun, like a wizards sleeve. | |
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| the Gray Report on 20:50 - Jan 25 with 2157 views | majorraglan |
| the Gray Report on 19:36 - Jan 25 by Flashberryjack |
I don't see him getting out of this one, it's not only about Boris's self preservation now, it's about all Tory MP's personal preservation.
They'll be abandoning ship faster than rats off a ferret infested Titanic.
His only hope now, is if someone leaks photos of Starmer sh*gging Angela Rayner whilst sniffing white powder from £50 notes at a secret Labour party piss up during full lock down. |
This could go either way, in fact it could actually assist Boris.
The police won’t release the detail of their investigation and I suspect we’ll only have a press release at the conclusion. The only way we’ll get the detail is if it end up in Court. It may be the case people will have committed offences, but they’re at a threshold below what would be necessary for Court proceedings. Unless Johnson is a defendant, I suspect he’ll use the police investigation to try and clear himself and undermine the Grey report. If he is charged, he’ll be finished.
The Grey report is a completely different animal to the police report, the former will report findings, the police investigation will be concerned with establishing the facts and subject to an evidential test where the burden of proof is beyond reasonable doubt. | | | |
| the Gray Report on 21:48 - Jan 25 with 2119 views | Flashberryjack |
| the Gray Report on 20:50 - Jan 25 by majorraglan |
This could go either way, in fact it could actually assist Boris.
The police won’t release the detail of their investigation and I suspect we’ll only have a press release at the conclusion. The only way we’ll get the detail is if it end up in Court. It may be the case people will have committed offences, but they’re at a threshold below what would be necessary for Court proceedings. Unless Johnson is a defendant, I suspect he’ll use the police investigation to try and clear himself and undermine the Grey report. If he is charged, he’ll be finished.
The Grey report is a completely different animal to the police report, the former will report findings, the police investigation will be concerned with establishing the facts and subject to an evidential test where the burden of proof is beyond reasonable doubt. |
This report will be under a microscope, so this won't be swept under the carpet, far to many got the scent of Boris's blood in their nostrils to let it be. | |
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| the Gray Report on 22:51 - Jan 25 with 2075 views | Sirjohnalot |
| the Gray Report on 20:50 - Jan 25 by majorraglan |
This could go either way, in fact it could actually assist Boris.
The police won’t release the detail of their investigation and I suspect we’ll only have a press release at the conclusion. The only way we’ll get the detail is if it end up in Court. It may be the case people will have committed offences, but they’re at a threshold below what would be necessary for Court proceedings. Unless Johnson is a defendant, I suspect he’ll use the police investigation to try and clear himself and undermine the Grey report. If he is charged, he’ll be finished.
The Grey report is a completely different animal to the police report, the former will report findings, the police investigation will be concerned with establishing the facts and subject to an evidential test where the burden of proof is beyond reasonable doubt. |
For a successful prosecution it is beyond reasonable doubt, charging decision is different.
It’s two tier test, evidential and interests of justice. It’s clearly interests of justice, the evidential one is simply a ‘realistic prospect of conviction’ . (Are the jury more likely than not to convict )
The main issue they have, may not be the parties themselves, but if there’s evidence that staff have been told the delete pics etc, Pervert Course of Justice is likely to follow, possibly Misconduct in Public Office, if he’s lied to Parliament (that bit could be a stretch).
Resigning could be the least of his concerns.
Oh, police have said to publish the report in full. [Post edited 25 Jan 2022 22:51]
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| the Gray Report on 23:48 - Jan 25 with 2036 views | builthjack |
| the Gray Report on 22:51 - Jan 25 by Sirjohnalot |
For a successful prosecution it is beyond reasonable doubt, charging decision is different.
It’s two tier test, evidential and interests of justice. It’s clearly interests of justice, the evidential one is simply a ‘realistic prospect of conviction’ . (Are the jury more likely than not to convict )
The main issue they have, may not be the parties themselves, but if there’s evidence that staff have been told the delete pics etc, Pervert Course of Justice is likely to follow, possibly Misconduct in Public Office, if he’s lied to Parliament (that bit could be a stretch).
Resigning could be the least of his concerns.
Oh, police have said to publish the report in full. [Post edited 25 Jan 2022 22:51]
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| Swansea Indepenent Poster Of The Year 2021. Dr P / Mart66 / Roathie / Parlay / E20/ Duffle was 2nd, but he is deluded and thinks in his little twisted brain that he won. Poor sod. We let him win this year, as he has cried for a whole year. His 14 usernames, bless his cotton socks.
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| the Gray Report on 06:37 - Jan 26 with 1984 views | Sirjohnalot |
| the Gray Report on 23:48 - Jan 25 by builthjack |
Porridge? |
Lockdown breach is a five but certainly for the other two | | | |
| the Gray Report on 09:47 - Jan 26 with 1950 views | JACKMANANDBOY |
| the Gray Report on 23:48 - Jan 25 by builthjack |
Porridge? |
Legislation only allows for fines, £60 in 2020. |  |
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| the Gray Report on 10:16 - Jan 26 with 1936 views | builthjack |
| the Gray Report on 09:47 - Jan 26 by JACKMANANDBOY |
Legislation only allows for fines, £60 in 2020. |
Johnson and co will have loads of £60 fines then | |
| Swansea Indepenent Poster Of The Year 2021. Dr P / Mart66 / Roathie / Parlay / E20/ Duffle was 2nd, but he is deluded and thinks in his little twisted brain that he won. Poor sod. We let him win this year, as he has cried for a whole year. His 14 usernames, bless his cotton socks.
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| the Gray Report on 10:20 - Jan 26 with 1927 views | YrAlarch |
| the Gray Report on 10:16 - Jan 26 by builthjack |
Johnson and co will have loads of £60 fines then |
He would get some Party donor to sub him. | | | |
| the Gray Report on 10:31 - Jan 26 with 1912 views | whiterock |
60 quid doubling for each offence, can't see it being more than a bag of sand for all the pigs with their snouts in the trough, he was only there for 10 minutes doesn't wash, how many people would have loved to have been with a dying relative during their last 10 minutes......, in the words of Ricky Gervais - CÃœnt
The potential of war in the Ukraine will (quite rightly) overshadow this, and save his skin, timely for Boris | | | |
| the Gray Report on 10:49 - Jan 26 with 1892 views | Whiterockin |
What a waste of police time and manpower for £60 fines regarding offences 2 years ago. I know we want our pound of flesh, but this seems silly. I find it strange that the Gray report can come out with a police investigation pending. Normally the stance is "I can't comment due to a ongoing police investigation". |  | | |
| the Gray Report on 17:27 - Jan 26 with 1830 views | PawelAbbott |
| the Gray Report on 19:04 - Jan 25 by CountyJim |
According to radio news its delayed |
Still not out!!! Is Robin Sharpe working the Fax machine for her? | | | |
| the Gray Report (n/t) on 20:54 - Jan 26 with 1776 views | Gwyn737 |
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| the Gray Report on 18:48 - Jan 27 with 1697 views | britferry |
Boris in North Wales today "I will publish the report in full once I get it"
Yes but its got to get thru his mandarins & lawyers first, once they've "fixed it", they'll pass it to Boris [Post edited 27 Jan 2022 20:16]
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| the Gray Report on 18:55 - Jan 27 with 1693 views | Catullus |
| the Gray Report on 20:43 - Jan 25 by Flashberryjack |
Have some respect for your member mun, like a wizards sleeve. |
That's just her mouth. | |
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| the Gray Report on 15:16 - Jan 28 with 1623 views | Gwyn737 |
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| the Gray Report on 15:28 - Jan 28 with 1619 views | JACKMANANDBOY |
It's a farce, the bottom line is those in Downing Street were having a few drinks during the lockdown rather than setting an example. As few £60 fines is the likely punishment.
How much time and energy is being wasted? If the Conservative MPs want him out they know what to do.The test of us make our own minds up. | |
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