| Is Martinball capable of bringing success to Swansea City ? Catch 22 for Russell 10:00 - Feb 9 with 1998 views | SwansIndependent |
Some ups, lots of downs, click above.
Bully’s below.
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| Is Martinball capable of bringing success to Swansea City ? Catch 22 for Russell on 10:05 - Feb 9 with 1349 views | DwightYorkeSuperstar |
What are the ups?
A 1-0 victory over Blackburn where we had FOURTEEN dangerous attacks all match perhaps? That is one attack into Blackburn's final third every 6+ minutes.
That's not a one off, either. Yesterday evening we attempted just SIXTEEN dangerous attacks.
This isn't exciting football. I pity those who have been manipulated into believing this is "exciting football". |  |
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| Is Martinball capable of bringing success to Swansea City ? Catch 22 for Russell on 10:10 - Feb 9 with 1350 views | Catullus |
Remember that 30 million I mentioned, Keith? You suggested 3 million. I don't think we'll see anything that good under Martin unless he gets 30 million to bring in players good enough. He's already said his current squad isn't good enough, even with the new signings.
All we're seeing now is excuses. | |
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| Is Martinball capable of bringing success to Swansea City ? Catch 22 for Russell on 10:20 - Feb 9 with 1313 views | Dr_Parnassus |
I don't really buy the notion that we are creating a load of chances but just not taking them.
300 shots taken in the 29 games so far.
380 shots taken in the first 29 games of last season...
in a season where we were called ''defensive and negative''. |  |
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| Is Martinball capable of bringing success to Swansea City ? Catch 22 for Russell on 10:21 - Feb 9 with 1310 views | KeithHaynes |
| Is Martinball capable of bringing success to Swansea City ? Catch 22 for Russell on 10:05 - Feb 9 by DwightYorkeSuperstar |
What are the ups?
A 1-0 victory over Blackburn where we had FOURTEEN dangerous attacks all match perhaps? That is one attack into Blackburn's final third every 6+ minutes.
That's not a one off, either. Yesterday evening we attempted just SIXTEEN dangerous attacks.
This isn't exciting football. I pity those who have been manipulated into believing this is "exciting football". |
That is definitely answered in the article.
Author is contactable on the cesspitter @Cornish67David
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| Is Martinball capable of bringing success to Swansea City ? Catch 22 for Russell on 10:57 - Feb 9 with 1239 views | A_Fans_Dad |
Based on his history, absolutely no chance.
You can't play Man City Football with very average Championship players and we will never be able to afford anything else. | | | |
| Is Martinball capable of bringing success to Swansea City ? Catch 22 for Russell on 10:58 - Feb 9 with 1237 views | onehunglow |
| Is Martinball capable of bringing success to Swansea City ? Catch 22 for Russell on 10:21 - Feb 9 by KeithHaynes |
That is definitely answered in the article.
Author is contactable on the cesspitter @Cornish67David
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Is Martin contactable?
From the fans that is
Can he front up? | |
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| Is Martinball capable of bringing success to Swansea City ? Catch 22 for Russell on 11:07 - Feb 9 with 1212 views | Catullus |
| Is Martinball capable of bringing success to Swansea City ? Catch 22 for Russell on 10:20 - Feb 9 by Dr_Parnassus |
I don't really buy the notion that we are creating a load of chances but just not taking them.
300 shots taken in the 29 games so far.
380 shots taken in the first 29 games of last season...
in a season where we were called ''defensive and negative''. |
That's not really a fair comparison given the context. We hadn't gobe defensive and negative until towards the end of January. Before Christmas most people were happy enough with Cooper.
It really didn't help, Coops was the architect of his own downfall there, that the fans perception seemed to be we had a good chance of an automatic spot and most (on here at least) seemed to think he cost us dearly by turning negative.
I'll repeat it though, Dr P, I honestly think Cooper would be getting a good tune out of this squad. He'd have the strikers he wanted, maybe. He'd still have Grimes but Downes, Ntcham and Pato too. I reckon under Coops we would be playing 4-1-3-2 or 4-2-3-1. | |
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| Is Martinball capable of bringing success to Swansea City ? Catch 22 for Russell on 11:10 - Feb 9 with 1199 views | KeithHaynes |
| Is Martinball capable of bringing success to Swansea City ? Catch 22 for Russell on 10:58 - Feb 9 by onehunglow |
Is Martin contactable?
From the fans that is
Can he front up? |
I assume there will be a fans forum at some point. | |
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| Is Martinball capable of bringing success to Swansea City ? Catch 22 for Russell on 11:16 - Feb 9 with 1168 views | Whiterockin |
| Is Martinball capable of bringing success to Swansea City ? Catch 22 for Russell on 11:10 - Feb 9 by KeithHaynes |
I assume there will be a fans forum at some point. |
I look forward to Resolven turning up to put his points forward to the trust and advising them how to progress. |  | | |
| Is Martinball capable of bringing success to Swansea City ? Catch 22 for Russell on 11:22 - Feb 9 with 1153 views | Catullus |
| Is Martinball capable of bringing success to Swansea City ? Catch 22 for Russell on 11:16 - Feb 9 by Whiterockin |
I look forward to Resolven turning up to put his points forward to the trust and advising them how to progress. |
I do wish you hadn't. He'll be hijacking this thread soon.
When is the next forum, if Martin is going it could be busy. | |
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| Is Martinball capable of bringing success to Swansea City ? Catch 22 for Russell on 11:26 - Feb 9 with 1140 views | onehunglow |
| Is Martinball capable of bringing success to Swansea City ? Catch 22 for Russell on 11:10 - Feb 9 by KeithHaynes |
I assume there will be a fans forum at some point. |
Ive half a mind to come down for that.
Would I need to bring my own security team.?
If Russ goes for me,I can utilise my Dempsey roll and weave. I reckon | |
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| Is Martinball capable of bringing success to Swansea City ? Catch 22 for Russell on 11:29 - Feb 9 with 1134 views | Dr_Parnassus |
| Is Martinball capable of bringing success to Swansea City ? Catch 22 for Russell on 11:07 - Feb 9 by Catullus |
That's not really a fair comparison given the context. We hadn't gobe defensive and negative until towards the end of January. Before Christmas most people were happy enough with Cooper.
It really didn't help, Coops was the architect of his own downfall there, that the fans perception seemed to be we had a good chance of an automatic spot and most (on here at least) seemed to think he cost us dearly by turning negative.
I'll repeat it though, Dr P, I honestly think Cooper would be getting a good tune out of this squad. He'd have the strikers he wanted, maybe. He'd still have Grimes but Downes, Ntcham and Pato too. I reckon under Coops we would be playing 4-1-3-2 or 4-2-3-1. |
I disagree, not sure where that notion came from really. That's only a very recent revision of history that I hadn't read until the last few weeks.
Cooper had his dissenters very early on in season 1, I remember particularly after the Leeds game (which we won). He was accused of defensive football since then.
As I have said before, we had a remarkable first half of that second season, even if we kept that form up (which was quite an ask) we would have still fallen short of automatics. Contrary to popular belief there was only 6 points difference between the first half of the season and second half, hence we still finished 4th. | |
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| Is Martinball capable of bringing success to Swansea City ? Catch 22 for Russell on 11:33 - Feb 9 with 1122 views | onehunglow |
| Is Martinball capable of bringing success to Swansea City ? Catch 22 for Russell on 11:29 - Feb 9 by Dr_Parnassus |
I disagree, not sure where that notion came from really. That's only a very recent revision of history that I hadn't read until the last few weeks.
Cooper had his dissenters very early on in season 1, I remember particularly after the Leeds game (which we won). He was accused of defensive football since then.
As I have said before, we had a remarkable first half of that second season, even if we kept that form up (which was quite an ask) we would have still fallen short of automatics. Contrary to popular belief there was only 6 points difference between the first half of the season and second half, hence we still finished 4th. |
Evening P
I detested Cooper and not because he was ugly as sin but few would screw our team up as badly and as obviously as this deluded clown.
It is a matter of time,as I have said many times,and how much damage he is allowed to do. | |
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| Is Martinball capable of bringing success to Swansea City ? Catch 22 for Russell on 11:41 - Feb 9 with 1101 views | Catullus |
| Is Martinball capable of bringing success to Swansea City ? Catch 22 for Russell on 11:29 - Feb 9 by Dr_Parnassus |
I disagree, not sure where that notion came from really. That's only a very recent revision of history that I hadn't read until the last few weeks.
Cooper had his dissenters very early on in season 1, I remember particularly after the Leeds game (which we won). He was accused of defensive football since then.
As I have said before, we had a remarkable first half of that second season, even if we kept that form up (which was quite an ask) we would have still fallen short of automatics. Contrary to popular belief there was only 6 points difference between the first half of the season and second half, hence we still finished 4th. |
It's not a recent revision, it was said several times, possibly many times. It was after Christmas when we went really defensive, after we lost to Man City things went bad.
Looking at the results individually, we lost at home to QPR, Cardiff, Bristol city and Preston, we lost away to Watford too. Then we drew with Barnsley and Wycombe. There's enough there, if we had the gumption, to have turned 4th into second.
Some people may have turned on Cooper early but most hadn't. | |
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| Is Martinball capable of bringing success to Swansea City ? Catch 22 for Russell on 11:52 - Feb 9 with 1078 views | Dr_Parnassus |
| Is Martinball capable of bringing success to Swansea City ? Catch 22 for Russell on 11:41 - Feb 9 by Catullus |
It's not a recent revision, it was said several times, possibly many times. It was after Christmas when we went really defensive, after we lost to Man City things went bad.
Looking at the results individually, we lost at home to QPR, Cardiff, Bristol city and Preston, we lost away to Watford too. Then we drew with Barnsley and Wycombe. There's enough there, if we had the gumption, to have turned 4th into second.
Some people may have turned on Cooper early but most hadn't. |
But again, even if we kept up the form of the first half of the season, we would have fallen short of automatics by 5 points plus a load of GD, essentially 6 points short.
43 points in 23 games in the first half of the season
37 points in 23 games in the second half of the season
Watford finished on 91 points in second.
We would have had 86 if we kept up the form of the first half of the season.
We wouldn't have even moved up a place. Brentford had 87, we still would have finished 4th. | |
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| Is Martinball capable of bringing success to Swansea City ? Catch 22 for Russell on 11:59 - Feb 9 with 1067 views | vetchonian |
| Is Martinball capable of bringing success to Swansea City ? Catch 22 for Russell on 11:52 - Feb 9 by Dr_Parnassus |
But again, even if we kept up the form of the first half of the season, we would have fallen short of automatics by 5 points plus a load of GD, essentially 6 points short.
43 points in 23 games in the first half of the season
37 points in 23 games in the second half of the season
Watford finished on 91 points in second.
We would have had 86 if we kept up the form of the first half of the season.
We wouldn't have even moved up a place. Brentford had 87, we still would have finished 4th. |
As much as I agree Doc...this is history and like you I have been frustrated by the daming of Cooper ball especially when at the start of this season many were going on at how much better things were under Martin even though some of us could see through that.
What worriesd me is the here and now and the futire.
People have made their minds up about Cooper many actually beleive we went to Wembkey and say back for 90 mins but football fans and their opinions.
Martin is clearly out of his depth and we all know the club is not in a financail situation to be able to pay off him and his backroom team so wherew do we go from here? | |
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| Is Martinball capable of bringing success to Swansea City ? Catch 22 for Russell on 12:00 - Feb 9 with 1062 views | onehunglow |
| Is Martinball capable of bringing success to Swansea City ? Catch 22 for Russell on 11:59 - Feb 9 by vetchonian |
As much as I agree Doc...this is history and like you I have been frustrated by the daming of Cooper ball especially when at the start of this season many were going on at how much better things were under Martin even though some of us could see through that.
What worriesd me is the here and now and the futire.
People have made their minds up about Cooper many actually beleive we went to Wembkey and say back for 90 mins but football fans and their opinions.
Martin is clearly out of his depth and we all know the club is not in a financail situation to be able to pay off him and his backroom team so wherew do we go from here? |
Yet we paid out 400k for his old keeper.
Ironic or what as Fisher will be a millstone for us. | |
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| Is Martinball capable of bringing success to Swansea City ? Catch 22 for Russell on 12:01 - Feb 9 with 1060 views | Dr_Parnassus |
| Is Martinball capable of bringing success to Swansea City ? Catch 22 for Russell on 11:59 - Feb 9 by vetchonian |
As much as I agree Doc...this is history and like you I have been frustrated by the daming of Cooper ball especially when at the start of this season many were going on at how much better things were under Martin even though some of us could see through that.
What worriesd me is the here and now and the futire.
People have made their minds up about Cooper many actually beleive we went to Wembkey and say back for 90 mins but football fans and their opinions.
Martin is clearly out of his depth and we all know the club is not in a financail situation to be able to pay off him and his backroom team so wherew do we go from here? |
I agree, just fielding the myth of ''the second half of the season'' and ''we blew automatics'' that seems to have stuck again bizarrely.
Neither are true of course, as those facts show.
But you are right, there here and now is the concern. | |
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| Is Martinball capable of bringing success to Swansea City ? Catch 22 for Russell on 14:55 - Feb 9 with 921 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
| Is Martinball capable of bringing success to Swansea City ? Catch 22 for Russell on 11:33 - Feb 9 by onehunglow |
Evening P
I detested Cooper and not because he was ugly as sin but few would screw our team up as badly and as obviously as this deluded clown.
It is a matter of time,as I have said many times,and how much damage he is allowed to do. |
Are you actually a woman or any ambitions of being one.? Men usually do not comment on other men's appearance. This is a feminine trait in that respect.
Conversely you could model yourself on Larry David who is probably a good friend of Mindi Kallin who may still be in the ownership group. I am a big fan of Mindi who has invested more of her money buying Swansea shares than the full 1200 member of the Trust ever have. She may have "chucked a few cents" into the convertible loan note. Beautiful feminine famous black, televisual owns Swansea city that ticks a lot of boxes for me. Everything I probably am not. |  |
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| Is Martinball capable of bringing success to Swansea City ? Catch 22 for Russell on 15:01 - Feb 9 with 913 views | Dr_Parnassus |
| Is Martinball capable of bringing success to Swansea City ? Catch 22 for Russell on 14:55 - Feb 9 by ReslovenSwan1 |
Are you actually a woman or any ambitions of being one.? Men usually do not comment on other men's appearance. This is a feminine trait in that respect.
Conversely you could model yourself on Larry David who is probably a good friend of Mindi Kallin who may still be in the ownership group. I am a big fan of Mindi who has invested more of her money buying Swansea shares than the full 1200 member of the Trust ever have. She may have "chucked a few cents" into the convertible loan note. Beautiful feminine famous black, televisual owns Swansea city that ticks a lot of boxes for me. Everything I probably am not. |
She may also be an alien from the planet Zogg.
There is just as much evidence of that as she put anything towards a CLN.
Just a point of order. My guess is they are both not true.
As you were. [Post edited 9 Feb 2022 15:03]
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| Is Martinball capable of bringing success to Swansea City ? Catch 22 for Russell on 15:03 - Feb 9 with 905 views | vetchonian |
| Is Martinball capable of bringing success to Swansea City ? Catch 22 for Russell on 14:55 - Feb 9 by ReslovenSwan1 |
Are you actually a woman or any ambitions of being one.? Men usually do not comment on other men's appearance. This is a feminine trait in that respect.
Conversely you could model yourself on Larry David who is probably a good friend of Mindi Kallin who may still be in the ownership group. I am a big fan of Mindi who has invested more of her money buying Swansea shares than the full 1200 member of the Trust ever have. She may have "chucked a few cents" into the convertible loan note. Beautiful feminine famous black, televisual owns Swansea city that ticks a lot of boxes for me. Everything I probably am not. |
Give it a rest, I wonder if you will still be here banging on when the Trust wins its case? | |
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| Is Martinball capable of bringing success to Swansea City ? Catch 22 for Russell on 15:29 - Feb 9 with 862 views | raynor94 |
| Is Martinball capable of bringing success to Swansea City ? Catch 22 for Russell on 12:00 - Feb 9 by onehunglow |
Yet we paid out 400k for his old keeper.
Ironic or what as Fisher will be a millstone for us. |
A millstone? You have deduced that from 2 games, give the lad a chance |  |
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| Is Martinball capable of bringing success to Swansea City ? Catch 22 for Russell on 15:43 - Feb 9 with 844 views | Badlands |
| Is Martinball capable of bringing success to Swansea City ? Catch 22 for Russell on 10:05 - Feb 9 by DwightYorkeSuperstar |
What are the ups?
A 1-0 victory over Blackburn where we had FOURTEEN dangerous attacks all match perhaps? That is one attack into Blackburn's final third every 6+ minutes.
That's not a one off, either. Yesterday evening we attempted just SIXTEEN dangerous attacks.
This isn't exciting football. I pity those who have been manipulated into believing this is "exciting football". |
Wind up?
Under Cooper we went months to reach 16 dangerous attacks.
Ca we do better with this style of football ... absolutely. |  |
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| Is Martinball capable of bringing success to Swansea City ? Catch 22 for Russell on 15:48 - Feb 9 with 830 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
| Is Martinball capable of bringing success to Swansea City ? Catch 22 for Russell on 15:01 - Feb 9 by Dr_Parnassus |
She may also be an alien from the planet Zogg.
There is just as much evidence of that as she put anything towards a CLN.
Just a point of order. My guess is they are both not true.
As you were. [Post edited 9 Feb 2022 15:03]
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She was one of the 28 that put about a reported £30m into buying club shares and taking over responsibility for running the club. The 300 club jobs the academy the stadium the pitch the logistics etc paying tax National insurance and the multitude of various business standards,
On average it would just over £1m each. This went to the sellers of course. The sellers appear to have given some of it back.
The Trust invested £200k in 2002 and some of that money went to buying Petty's shares. They have also taken out in excess of £400k in dividends. | |
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| Is Martinball capable of bringing success to Swansea City ? Catch 22 for Russell on 15:49 - Feb 9 with 831 views | vetchonian |
| Is Martinball capable of bringing success to Swansea City ? Catch 22 for Russell on 15:43 - Feb 9 by Badlands |
Wind up?
Under Cooper we went months to reach 16 dangerous attacks.
Ca we do better with this style of football ... absolutely. |
The stats say different I am afraid.... | |
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