| Trouble in Clapham 08:00 - Apr 3 with 5998 views | AnotherJohn |
Worrying scenes of mass shop-lifting and civil disturbances in Clapham. It is hard to avoid the conclusion that there is a racial or ethnic dimension.
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| Trouble in Clapham on 10:21 - Apr 3 with 3517 views | union_jack |
Press coverage kept to a minimum and also very little on the Rochdale incident. Pictures from Clapham confirm your thoughts. |  |
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| Trouble in Clapham on 10:53 - Apr 3 with 3498 views | Scotia |
What makes it hard to avoid that conclusion? | | | |
| Trouble in Clapham on 11:03 - Apr 3 with 3486 views | Gwyn737 |
| Trouble in Clapham on 10:21 - Apr 3 by union_jack |
Press coverage kept to a minimum and also very little on the Rochdale incident. Pictures from Clapham confirm your thoughts. |
There’s loads of coverage UJ. It’s for the last two days it’s been a pretty high up in all the major newspapers.
An awful event that hopefully will see the footage lead to further aressts.
That idiot barrister on about London though 🤣 | | | |
| Trouble in Clapham on 11:09 - Apr 3 with 3481 views | Scotia |
| Trouble in Clapham on 11:03 - Apr 3 by Gwyn737 |
There’s loads of coverage UJ. It’s for the last two days it’s been a pretty high up in all the major newspapers.
An awful event that hopefully will see the footage lead to further aressts.
That idiot barrister on about London though 🤣 |
The UK law weekly are big fans of his.
https://uklawweekly.substack.c https://uklawweekly.substack.c
I'm taking my family to London next week and looking forward to it. | | | |
| Trouble in Clapham on 11:31 - Apr 3 with 3464 views | Gwyn737 |
Have they taken out insurance and booked their funerals?
As for the lawyer, it took me a while to realise he’s not a parody. [Post edited 3 Apr 11:32]
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| Trouble in Clapham on 11:56 - Apr 3 with 3426 views | union_jack |
| Trouble in Clapham on 11:03 - Apr 3 by Gwyn737 |
There’s loads of coverage UJ. It’s for the last two days it’s been a pretty high up in all the major newspapers.
An awful event that hopefully will see the footage lead to further aressts.
That idiot barrister on about London though 🤣 |
The Clapham one to an extent maybe but I’ve not seen much on the Rochdale incident. Of course, they’d may have more time to report such issues if they didn’t spend so much time on this Artemis II mission. Jeez, man went to the moon and landed on it in 1969, it’s not as if it’s the first time!! | |
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| Trouble in Clapham on 12:07 - Apr 3 with 3405 views | Whiterockin |
| Trouble in Clapham on 11:56 - Apr 3 by union_jack |
The Clapham one to an extent maybe but I’ve not seen much on the Rochdale incident. Of course, they’d may have more time to report such issues if they didn’t spend so much time on this Artemis II mission. Jeez, man went to the moon and landed on it in 1969, it’s not as if it’s the first time!! |
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| Trouble in Clapham on 12:33 - Apr 3 with 3360 views | 1983 |
| Trouble in Clapham on 11:03 - Apr 3 by Gwyn737 |
There’s loads of coverage UJ. It’s for the last two days it’s been a pretty high up in all the major newspapers.
An awful event that hopefully will see the footage lead to further aressts.
That idiot barrister on about London though 🤣 |
I dont live and a million miles away from Clapham.
The centre of London is brilliant but come out of the centre a bit and it can be pretty lawless sometimes. |  |
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| Trouble in Clapham on 12:54 - Apr 3 with 3333 views | Demitrius |
Clapham was never like this 35-40 years ago. Hell I used to go drinking and eating there regularly safe as houses...It does however back onto the Coldharbour Lane estate and the less salubrious parts of Brixton and Stretham
Yes we had the Brixton an Tottenham riots in the 80s but that had been simmering for months and was about police intimidation...
These widespread mob uprisings are different in they are organised online to rob and riot for the sheer hell of it...
It will get edited out of the official crime figures I'm sure as that what Khan's Londinium does - obsfuscate...
I'm glad our poster Gwyn avoided this unpleasantmess on his recent visit but this is a growing trend - London , despite massaged stats, is becoming a hellhole
I know it you know it and you know the reasons for it
don't be gaslit dont be fooled
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news [Post edited 3 Apr 13:22]
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| Trouble in Clapham on 13:03 - Apr 3 with 3296 views | Gwyn737 |
| Trouble in Clapham on 12:54 - Apr 3 by Demitrius |
Clapham was never like this 35-40 years ago. Hell I used to go drinking and eating there regularly safe as houses...It does however back onto the Coldharbour Lane estate and the less salubrious parts of Brixton and Stretham
Yes we had the Brixton an Tottenham riots in the 80s but that had been simmering for months and was about police intimidation...
These widespread mob uprisings are different in they are organised online to rob and riot for the sheer hell of it...
It will get edited out of the official crime figures I'm sure as that what Khan's Londinium does - obsfuscate...
I'm glad our poster Gwyn avoided this unpleasantmess on his recent visit but this is a growing trend - London , despite massaged stats, is becoming a hellhole
I know it you know it and you know the reasons for it
don't be gaslit dont be fooled
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news [Post edited 3 Apr 13:22]
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No need to be gaslit.
Just go there and not be taken in by those in the media who love to bash Britain. | | | |
| Trouble in Clapham on 13:13 - Apr 3 with 3276 views | onehunglow |
| Trouble in Clapham on 12:54 - Apr 3 by Demitrius |
Clapham was never like this 35-40 years ago. Hell I used to go drinking and eating there regularly safe as houses...It does however back onto the Coldharbour Lane estate and the less salubrious parts of Brixton and Stretham
Yes we had the Brixton an Tottenham riots in the 80s but that had been simmering for months and was about police intimidation...
These widespread mob uprisings are different in they are organised online to rob and riot for the sheer hell of it...
It will get edited out of the official crime figures I'm sure as that what Khan's Londinium does - obsfuscate...
I'm glad our poster Gwyn avoided this unpleasantmess on his recent visit but this is a growing trend - London , despite massaged stats, is becoming a hellhole
I know it you know it and you know the reasons for it
don't be gaslit dont be fooled
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news [Post edited 3 Apr 13:22]
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Just wish Police were intimidating now when they are cowardly political stooges
They disgust me frankly
So much goes on that the public know nothing about
I saw this coming 30 yrs ago so it’s no surprise but the escalation into apathy has been astonishing
Nobody should be surprised
Us or them
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| Trouble in Clapham on 13:24 - Apr 3 with 3254 views | Demitrius |
| Trouble in Clapham on 13:03 - Apr 3 by Gwyn737 |
No need to be gaslit.
Just go there and not be taken in by those in the media who love to bash Britain. |
Britain is doing a spectacular job of bashing itself dude if you have failed to notice..... | |
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| Trouble in Clapham on 13:30 - Apr 3 with 3247 views | Whiterockin |
| Trouble in Clapham on 13:24 - Apr 3 by Demitrius |
Britain is doing a spectacular job of bashing itself dude if you have failed to notice..... |
Perspective on issues in Britain often varies depending on where you live. | | | |
| Trouble in Clapham on 13:43 - Apr 3 with 3222 views | Demitrius |
| Trouble in Clapham on 13:30 - Apr 3 by Whiterockin |
Perspective on issues in Britain often varies depending on where you live. |
That is true WR
I think Swansea and other parts of Wales as an example are about 15-20 years behind ....
People think "okay there are issues with mass migration but where's the major problem?"
It will come, in growing numbers the same problems will come...and many will change their tune frantically trying to get the lock back on the gate...
The whole NOSanctuary thing.... For the birds [Post edited 3 Apr 13:44]
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| Trouble in Clapham on 14:01 - Apr 3 with 3195 views | controversial_jack |
Nothing new here, move on | | | |
| Trouble in Clapham on 14:46 - Apr 3 with 3181 views | AnotherJohn |
| Trouble in Clapham on 10:53 - Apr 3 by Scotia |
What makes it hard to avoid that conclusion? |
Film of the participants on the web. Or do you take the view that we are dealing with what used to be called a "racialised class fraction", meaning that socio-economic status is the primary issue? [Post edited 3 Apr 14:49]
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| Trouble in Clapham on 14:59 - Apr 3 with 3167 views | Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
I can never understand how all these families fresh off the boat with no capital and very little education/qualifications can live in one of the worlds most expensive cities unless they are being heavily subsidised by the taxpayer? The price of rent there alone for even the tiniest box room would prevent most of this countries population to even consider moving there. Yet some areas are 80% “black and ethic minority”.
We have been taken for mugs. It’s a farcical situation really. |  |
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| Trouble in Clapham on 15:53 - Apr 3 with 3123 views | majorraglan |
Clearly what’s happened in Clapham is completely unacceptable and it needs to be dealt with firmly. By and large most people are decent and law abiding, but there is an element everywhere that needs a firm hand. We had youngsters kicking off and causing riots in Swansea a few years ago. | | | |
| Trouble in Clapham on 16:04 - Apr 3 with 3108 views | union_jack |
| Trouble in Clapham on 13:43 - Apr 3 by Demitrius |
That is true WR
I think Swansea and other parts of Wales as an example are about 15-20 years behind ....
People think "okay there are issues with mass migration but where's the major problem?"
It will come, in growing numbers the same problems will come...and many will change their tune frantically trying to get the lock back on the gate...
The whole NOSanctuary thing.... For the birds [Post edited 3 Apr 13:44]
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Putting the lock back on the gate as you say would give me some hope.
Unfortunately, it will be more like putting toothpaste back into the tube. | |
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| Trouble in Clapham on 16:12 - Apr 3 with 3093 views | onehunglow |
| Trouble in Clapham on 15:53 - Apr 3 by majorraglan |
Clearly what’s happened in Clapham is completely unacceptable and it needs to be dealt with firmly. By and large most people are decent and law abiding, but there is an element everywhere that needs a firm hand. We had youngsters kicking off and causing riots in Swansea a few years ago. |
Its about volume.
In inner city London there is simply more scum
And in many cases the majority are not law abiding | |
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| Trouble in Clapham on 16:47 - Apr 3 with 3057 views | Scotia |
| Trouble in Clapham on 14:46 - Apr 3 by AnotherJohn |
Film of the participants on the web. Or do you take the view that we are dealing with what used to be called a "racialised class fraction", meaning that socio-economic status is the primary issue? [Post edited 3 Apr 14:49]
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No I'd like to know what the "online social trends" that triggered them were before apportioning blame. Clapham is about 60% afro Carribbean whereas Rochdale 70% white and 20% Asian. That's quite ethnically diverse.
Society is on its knees, I'd quite like it not to be, so perhaps looking for the cause rather than distractions is a good idea. | | | |
| Trouble in Clapham on 16:51 - Apr 3 with 3054 views | Scotia |
| Trouble in Clapham on 14:59 - Apr 3 by Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
I can never understand how all these families fresh off the boat with no capital and very little education/qualifications can live in one of the worlds most expensive cities unless they are being heavily subsidised by the taxpayer? The price of rent there alone for even the tiniest box room would prevent most of this countries population to even consider moving there. Yet some areas are 80% “black and ethic minority”.
We have been taken for mugs. It’s a farcical situation really. |
You don't have to be "fresh off the boat" to experience those disadvantages.
Similarly I know several people (white, Welsh)who've barely worked a day in their lives, but have a better car and more foreign holidays than me.
We are being taken for mugs, but not by people "fresh off the boat". | | | |
| Trouble in Clapham on 19:18 - Apr 3 with 2993 views | Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
| Trouble in Clapham on 16:51 - Apr 3 by Scotia |
You don't have to be "fresh off the boat" to experience those disadvantages.
Similarly I know several people (white, Welsh)who've barely worked a day in their lives, but have a better car and more foreign holidays than me.
We are being taken for mugs, but not by people "fresh off the boat". |
You know what I mean though, whether it’s people on benefits or big families recently immigrated here they get given big 5+ bedroom houses to live in in parts of the country where the properties for everyone else would be completely unaffordable.
There really is no benefit to going out to work 50 hours a week. I’m on decent ish money but I could never dream of buying a house in London. Yet millions get these luxuries for free. It’s no wonder there’s such a feeling of tension and injustice in the country and people are swinging to the extremes with reform/greens etc. There will come a breaking point. | |
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| Trouble in Clapham on 20:06 - Apr 3 with 2973 views | Scotia |
| Trouble in Clapham on 19:18 - Apr 3 by Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
You know what I mean though, whether it’s people on benefits or big families recently immigrated here they get given big 5+ bedroom houses to live in in parts of the country where the properties for everyone else would be completely unaffordable.
There really is no benefit to going out to work 50 hours a week. I’m on decent ish money but I could never dream of buying a house in London. Yet millions get these luxuries for free. It’s no wonder there’s such a feeling of tension and injustice in the country and people are swinging to the extremes with reform/greens etc. There will come a breaking point. |
Genuinely they don't get much for free, they almost certainly live cheeky to Jowl in a HMO owned by a multimillionaire, most likely bought to dodge tax. In London there's a good chance they are from Russia or China. Any money from the state pretty much goes straight to them. This includes asylum seeker hotel contracts set up by the last government to help their donors.
The right facilitate this the left live on some sort of Dreamland where this can be eliminated. And nobody looks more than 5 years in to the future.
There needs to be a massive change at both ends of the social spectrum, but nobody who can do anything about it does anything about it. They just blame each other. | | | |
| Trouble in Clapham on 02:21 - Apr 5 with 2823 views | Robbie |
As a worker in a supermarket chain , do you challenge these shopliflters and risk a spit in the face , syringe attack or a concealed Stanley knife attack on staff doing their job .
Plod put shoplifting at the lower end of their get to incidents asap and it will continue . | | | |
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