| The two Ayews and Dyer 10:24 - Apr 29 with 2602 views | magicdaps10 |
Dont think the two Ayews are working, they put a shift in but its goals we need and they certainly wont have any ammunition from our midfield. Think it might be time to go back to Narsingh and Dyer, they done well in our purple patch a few months back. Dyer might not score goals but Jordan seemed too benefit more with goals playing with Dyer.
Maybe we could push Andre back into the left side of midfield that Clucas plays, drop King and put Clucas in his role.
The system has gone stale in recent months and we need to get some sort of creativity back, I cant see it returning with what we started with yesterday. |  |
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| The two Ayews and Dyer on 10:34 - Apr 29 with 2046 views | TheResurrection |
Stop talking shit.
We've just played our 2 nightmare games, now we can plan for 3 winnable ones. And we'll need all hands on pump. Including our most likely scorers, which, of course, includes the Ayew brothers.
I'd be more tempted to drop Olsson and put Clucas back there. He's got the technique, he's got the engine to get up and back but he's got more quality, a lot more, than Olsson in the final third
Carlos will be tempted to do something similar at right wing back as well.
Ambitious side...
------------------------ Fab -----------------
-----Naughty----Maws----VdH------
Narsingh ---------------------- Clucas
-----------------------Leon ------------------
------- Ki ------------------------- King ---
-----------A Ayew -----J Ayew --------
With Tammy to be utilised at some point. [Post edited 29 Apr 2018 10:42]
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| The two Ayews and Dyer on 10:42 - Apr 29 with 2002 views | magicdaps10 |
| The two Ayews and Dyer on 10:34 - Apr 29 by TheResurrection |
Stop talking shit.
We've just played our 2 nightmare games, now we can plan for 3 winnable ones. And we'll need all hands on pump. Including our most likely scorers, which, of course, includes the Ayew brothers.
I'd be more tempted to drop Olsson and put Clucas back there. He's got the technique, he's got the engine to get up and back but he's got more quality, a lot more, than Olsson in the final third
Carlos will be tempted to do something similar at right wing back as well.
Ambitious side...
------------------------ Fab -----------------
-----Naughty----Maws----VdH------
Narsingh ---------------------- Clucas
-----------------------Leon ------------------
------- Ki ------------------------- King ---
-----------A Ayew -----J Ayew --------
With Tammy to be utilised at some point. [Post edited 29 Apr 2018 10:42]
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Two games doesn't account for our poor run of form for the last 6/7 games AND 2 goals in our last 7 games.
I agree that we need to be adventurous but to start we need to be realistic, if we don't recognise our issues then we cant put them right.......it worries me that some cant see the issues and see players doing the basics as them having a good game. | |
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| The two Ayews and Dyer on 10:53 - Apr 29 with 1958 views | TheResurrection |
| The two Ayews and Dyer on 10:42 - Apr 29 by magicdaps10 |
Two games doesn't account for our poor run of form for the last 6/7 games AND 2 goals in our last 7 games.
I agree that we need to be adventurous but to start we need to be realistic, if we don't recognise our issues then we cant put them right.......it worries me that some cant see the issues and see players doing the basics as them having a good game. |
Our home form is alright by me.
Battered West Ham and Everton and lost valiantly to an in form Chelsea.
There's nothing to suggest we've got concerns at home. Nothing. | |
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| The two Ayews and Dyer on 10:56 - Apr 29 with 1950 views | magicdaps10 |
| The two Ayews and Dyer on 10:53 - Apr 29 by TheResurrection |
Our home form is alright by me.
Battered West Ham and Everton and lost valiantly to an in form Chelsea.
There's nothing to suggest we've got concerns at home. Nothing. |
Out of curiosity....how many points will see the 17th placed team safe? | |
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| The two Ayews and Dyer on 11:12 - Apr 29 with 1907 views | eddie71 |
Ayew would be ineffective on the left, that is where West Ham played him. Clucas cant do the King job as well as King and is far better on the left. The results have been disappointing but the performance yesterday was ok. If we keep the Everton standards up we will beat Bournemouth and certainly at least avoid defeat against Southampton which will probably be enough. |  | | |
| The two Ayews and Dyer on 11:28 - Apr 29 with 1872 views | TheResurrection |
| The two Ayews and Dyer on 10:56 - Apr 29 by magicdaps10 |
Out of curiosity....how many points will see the 17th placed team safe? |
Who knows but it's looking like 36 or37
But, to start, that means the teams below us will need something special from their 3 and 2 games respectively.
Everton v Southampton 0/1 point(s)
Southampton v Swansea ??
Southampton v Man City 0 points
So with them on 32 now I'd guess they'll be looking at a maximum 3/4 points. This takes them to 36
If Stoke do the incredible they can only get 36. Their goal difference would improve with 2 wins and especially with one of them being against us, so we'd have negative GD in that game. But with an 8 head start that would need to be a big win, as in probably at least 3 nil.
But anyway, worst case scenario 36, but perhaps more likely 31/32/33
Then there's Huddersfield
Man City away 0
Chelsea away 0
Arsenal home - could they sneak a point in Wenger's last game? Probably not in my opinion, so that's them on 35, 36 tops. They've already got a 4 goal disadvantage with Man City and Chelsea away still to come. 1 more win puts us ahead of them.
Then there's Brighton and Watford
Brighton v Man U 0 points
Man City v Brighton 0 points
Liverpool v Brighton 0 points
Brighton will probably finish on 37
Spurs v Watford 0 points
Watford v Newcastle 0/1 point(s)
Man U v Watford 0 points
They could finish on 38/39 points which is 90% of a chance to be safe, but I think we can go past them.
The only other team is probably West Ham who play City today. They have Leicester away after that and Man U and Everton at home. They're likely to get something at home to Everton, you'd think, but if they lose at Leicester then you can throw them in as well.
My guess...
Swans 38
Brighton 37
Southampton 36
Huddersfield 35
Stoke 31
West Brom 28
So to answer your question, again, I think 36. [Post edited 29 Apr 2018 11:29]
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| The two Ayews and Dyer on 11:40 - Apr 29 with 1822 views | SgorioFruit |
why we are not starting dyer is beyond me |  |
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| The two Ayews and Dyer on 11:45 - Apr 29 with 1792 views | Whiterockin |
| The two Ayews and Dyer on 11:28 - Apr 29 by TheResurrection |
Who knows but it's looking like 36 or37
But, to start, that means the teams below us will need something special from their 3 and 2 games respectively.
Everton v Southampton 0/1 point(s)
Southampton v Swansea ??
Southampton v Man City 0 points
So with them on 32 now I'd guess they'll be looking at a maximum 3/4 points. This takes them to 36
If Stoke do the incredible they can only get 36. Their goal difference would improve with 2 wins and especially with one of them being against us, so we'd have negative GD in that game. But with an 8 head start that would need to be a big win, as in probably at least 3 nil.
But anyway, worst case scenario 36, but perhaps more likely 31/32/33
Then there's Huddersfield
Man City away 0
Chelsea away 0
Arsenal home - could they sneak a point in Wenger's last game? Probably not in my opinion, so that's them on 35, 36 tops. They've already got a 4 goal disadvantage with Man City and Chelsea away still to come. 1 more win puts us ahead of them.
Then there's Brighton and Watford
Brighton v Man U 0 points
Man City v Brighton 0 points
Liverpool v Brighton 0 points
Brighton will probably finish on 37
Spurs v Watford 0 points
Watford v Newcastle 0/1 point(s)
Man U v Watford 0 points
They could finish on 38/39 points which is 90% of a chance to be safe, but I think we can go past them.
The only other team is probably West Ham who play City today. They have Leicester away after that and Man U and Everton at home. They're likely to get something at home to Everton, you'd think, but if they lose at Leicester then you can throw them in as well.
My guess...
Swans 38
Brighton 37
Southampton 36
Huddersfield 35
Stoke 31
West Brom 28
So to answer your question, again, I think 36. [Post edited 29 Apr 2018 11:29]
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So you see us going undefeated in the last 3 games. 38 points 5 more = a win and 2 draws. |  | | |
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| The two Ayews and Dyer on 11:52 - Apr 29 with 1770 views | TheResurrection |
| The two Ayews and Dyer on 11:45 - Apr 29 by Whiterockin |
So you see us going undefeated in the last 3 games. 38 points 5 more = a win and 2 draws. |
That's my hope and certainly not beyond the realms of possibility.
However 1 more win or a win and a draw should also be enough. | |
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| The two Ayews and Dyer on 11:54 - Apr 29 with 1756 views | Jackfath |
| The two Ayews and Dyer on 11:52 - Apr 29 by TheResurrection |
That's my hope and certainly not beyond the realms of possibility.
However 1 more win or a win and a draw should also be enough. |
I agree with you. |  |
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| The two Ayews and Dyer on 11:56 - Apr 29 with 1750 views | A_Fans_Dad |
| The two Ayews and Dyer on 11:40 - Apr 29 by SgorioFruit |
why we are not starting dyer is beyond me |
Because he is actually better as an impact sub, but he needs to come on fairly early, ie 60-70 minutes or even half time.
Attacking subs need time to "get into a game", so giving them only 5 minutes or so at the end makes it very hard for them to have the required impact.
Having said that there are some subs who actually specialise in that last few minutes and do make a difference, but they are rare. | | | |
| The two Ayews and Dyer on 11:59 - Apr 29 with 1739 views | Whiterockin |
| The two Ayews and Dyer on 11:52 - Apr 29 by TheResurrection |
That's my hope and certainly not beyond the realms of possibility.
However 1 more win or a win and a draw should also be enough. |
Agree, I thought one win would be enough until our goal difference went down the pan last week. | | | |
| The two Ayews and Dyer on 12:06 - Apr 29 with 1696 views | TheResurrection |
| The two Ayews and Dyer on 11:59 - Apr 29 by Whiterockin |
Agree, I thought one win would be enough until our goal difference went down the pan last week. |
But, hopefully the teams in question have a worse one. | |
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| The two Ayews and Dyer on 19:30 - Apr 29 with 1443 views | TheResurrection |
| The two Ayews and Dyer on 11:28 - Apr 29 by TheResurrection |
Who knows but it's looking like 36 or37
But, to start, that means the teams below us will need something special from their 3 and 2 games respectively.
Everton v Southampton 0/1 point(s)
Southampton v Swansea ??
Southampton v Man City 0 points
So with them on 32 now I'd guess they'll be looking at a maximum 3/4 points. This takes them to 36
If Stoke do the incredible they can only get 36. Their goal difference would improve with 2 wins and especially with one of them being against us, so we'd have negative GD in that game. But with an 8 head start that would need to be a big win, as in probably at least 3 nil.
But anyway, worst case scenario 36, but perhaps more likely 31/32/33
Then there's Huddersfield
Man City away 0
Chelsea away 0
Arsenal home - could they sneak a point in Wenger's last game? Probably not in my opinion, so that's them on 35, 36 tops. They've already got a 4 goal disadvantage with Man City and Chelsea away still to come. 1 more win puts us ahead of them.
Then there's Brighton and Watford
Brighton v Man U 0 points
Man City v Brighton 0 points
Liverpool v Brighton 0 points
Brighton will probably finish on 37
Spurs v Watford 0 points
Watford v Newcastle 0/1 point(s)
Man U v Watford 0 points
They could finish on 38/39 points which is 90% of a chance to be safe, but I think we can go past them.
The only other team is probably West Ham who play City today. They have Leicester away after that and Man U and Everton at home. They're likely to get something at home to Everton, you'd think, but if they lose at Leicester then you can throw them in as well.
My guess...
Swans 38
Brighton 37
Southampton 36
Huddersfield 35
Stoke 31
West Brom 28
So to answer your question, again, I think 36. [Post edited 29 Apr 2018 11:29]
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Throw West Ham in as well. Big game for them up in Leicester. (although lucky for them Leicester are in shit form as well)
Quite possible West Ham will be on 35 points going into their last game. | |
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| The two Ayews and Dyer on 19:31 - Apr 29 with 1439 views | PozuelosSideys |
| The two Ayews and Dyer on 19:30 - Apr 29 by TheResurrection |
Throw West Ham in as well. Big game for them up in Leicester. (although lucky for them Leicester are in shit form as well)
Quite possible West Ham will be on 35 points going into their last game. |
Your optimism is impressive. Fair play. |  |
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| The two Ayews and Dyer on 19:49 - Apr 29 with 1395 views | NeathJack |
Working on the assumption that Soton lose to Man City on the last day, if we beat Soton at home we are safe regardless of what they do at Everton or what we do in the other 2 games (also assuming Stoke don't beat us by a hatful). |  | | |
| The two Ayews and Dyer on 19:59 - Apr 29 with 1352 views | Loyal |
Point at Bournemouth, beat Southampton and Stoke, or draw.
No fcking about.
38 points.
Sack Jenkins, and tbh Carlos as well. |  |
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| The two Ayews and Dyer on 20:48 - Apr 29 with 1271 views | TheResurrection |
| The two Ayews and Dyer on 19:49 - Apr 29 by NeathJack |
Working on the assumption that Soton lose to Man City on the last day, if we beat Soton at home we are safe regardless of what they do at Everton or what we do in the other 2 games (also assuming Stoke don't beat us by a hatful). |
I like this theory.
It's simple (bit like you) and to the point.
Good post. | |
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| The two Ayews and Dyer on 20:52 - Apr 29 with 1256 views | TheResurrection |
| The two Ayews and Dyer on 19:59 - Apr 29 by Loyal |
Point at Bournemouth, beat Southampton and Stoke, or draw.
No fcking about.
38 points.
Sack Jenkins, and tbh Carlos as well. |
If Carlos gets 25 points in one half season he's going nowhere, providing he wants to stay. And rightly so.
People are getting carried away with the Clement debacle. Carlos has had us playing some decent stuff and got a major tune out of what he's working with. | |
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| The two Ayews and Dyer on 20:52 - Apr 29 with 1253 views | jack247 |
There’s probably an argument for starting Jordan and Dyer, with Andre providing the industry in midfield. Really not sure who I’d drop to accommodate him though.
I don’t think I’d drop Clucas and I certainly wouldn’t play Clucas as a holding central midfielder. | | | |
| The two Ayews and Dyer on 20:59 - Apr 29 with 1226 views | pencoedjack |
| The two Ayews and Dyer on 11:28 - Apr 29 by TheResurrection |
Who knows but it's looking like 36 or37
But, to start, that means the teams below us will need something special from their 3 and 2 games respectively.
Everton v Southampton 0/1 point(s)
Southampton v Swansea ??
Southampton v Man City 0 points
So with them on 32 now I'd guess they'll be looking at a maximum 3/4 points. This takes them to 36
If Stoke do the incredible they can only get 36. Their goal difference would improve with 2 wins and especially with one of them being against us, so we'd have negative GD in that game. But with an 8 head start that would need to be a big win, as in probably at least 3 nil.
But anyway, worst case scenario 36, but perhaps more likely 31/32/33
Then there's Huddersfield
Man City away 0
Chelsea away 0
Arsenal home - could they sneak a point in Wenger's last game? Probably not in my opinion, so that's them on 35, 36 tops. They've already got a 4 goal disadvantage with Man City and Chelsea away still to come. 1 more win puts us ahead of them.
Then there's Brighton and Watford
Brighton v Man U 0 points
Man City v Brighton 0 points
Liverpool v Brighton 0 points
Brighton will probably finish on 37
Spurs v Watford 0 points
Watford v Newcastle 0/1 point(s)
Man U v Watford 0 points
They could finish on 38/39 points which is 90% of a chance to be safe, but I think we can go past them.
The only other team is probably West Ham who play City today. They have Leicester away after that and Man U and Everton at home. They're likely to get something at home to Everton, you'd think, but if they lose at Leicester then you can throw them in as well.
My guess...
Swans 38
Brighton 37
Southampton 36
Huddersfield 35
Stoke 31
West Brom 28
So to answer your question, again, I think 36. [Post edited 29 Apr 2018 11:29]
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For once I agree with you Chris
The Huddersfield final game is a concern Arsenal don’t have a point away from home in 2018.
Hopefully they will want to give Wenger a good send off ( if they lose Thursday) |  | | |
| The two Ayews and Dyer on 21:09 - Apr 29 with 1197 views | Joe_bradshaw |
Andre is working like a dog but he’s a forward and he needs a goal. |  |
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| The two Ayews and Dyer on 21:14 - Apr 29 with 1184 views | Dr_Winston |
| The two Ayews and Dyer on 21:09 - Apr 29 by Joe_bradshaw |
Andre is working like a dog but he’s a forward and he needs a goal. |
It'll come.
He's not helped by having to create any openings he does get himself, which fortunately both he and his brother are capable of doing. Their lives would be easier if there was anything approaching decent service from midfield though. |  |
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| The two Ayews and Dyer on 21:16 - Apr 29 with 1173 views | NeathJack |
| The two Ayews and Dyer on 21:14 - Apr 29 by Dr_Winston |
It'll come.
He's not helped by having to create any openings he does get himself, which fortunately both he and his brother are capable of doing. Their lives would be easier if there was anything approaching decent service from midfield though. |
Another reason why Sanches should have been given the last 20 minutes yesterday. At least he's likely to try a forward pass and create something and it would have given him priceless game time.
There was literally no downside to him being introduced. Instead, for reasons I will never understand, we were given Routledge.
Colour me baffled. [Post edited 29 Apr 2018 21:23]
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