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Ever since my son was... never conceived, because I've never had consensual sex without money involved... I've always kind of looked at you as... a thing, that I could live next to... in accordance with state laws.
Twitter is absolutely toxic. I don’t understand why anybody does it. A 40 year career over because someone has interpreted a four hundred year old text in a way that it was not intended. It’s an absolute minefield out there. You don’t have to actually say something offensive anymore, it just has to be interpreted as offensive. How dangerous is that?
Edit: (Apologies to anyone living on or near a minefield)
The creatures outside looked from pig to man, and from man to pig, and from pig to man again; but already it was impossible to say which was which.
Twitter is absolutely toxic. I don’t understand why anybody does it. A 40 year career over because someone has interpreted a four hundred year old text in a way that it was not intended. It’s an absolute minefield out there. You don’t have to actually say something offensive anymore, it just has to be interpreted as offensive. How dangerous is that?
Edit: (Apologies to anyone living on or near a minefield)
I haven’t disagreed with much you’ve said over the years Hije but that’s total bollox about Twitter. It’s people,it’s society that’s the problem. We are too far down the road did it to change now too. Some of us have been harping on about it for years and always told we are wrong.
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I haven’t disagreed with much you’ve said over the years Hije but that’s total bollox about Twitter. It’s people,it’s society that’s the problem. We are too far down the road did it to change now too. Some of us have been harping on about it for years and always told we are wrong.
People, society, Twitter. They’re all drivers of each other. And you are right, it’s the people on there, not the actual platform. But the platform gives... well a platform for the worst people in society. There’s always an army of people lurking on there waiting for the slightest slip up, then they pounce. And nobody is safe, no matter how “woke” you are. They’ll cannibalise their own. You have people losing their jobs and careers over the slightest mistake. It just doesn’t seem worth it, particularly if you’re well known and have a lot to lose.
Obviously in hindsight that Shakespeare quote is a pretty stupid one to use but there’s clearly and obviously no attempt to be racist. The Ape similie refers to low intelligence, not race. Context is irrelevant these days.
The creatures outside looked from pig to man, and from man to pig, and from pig to man again; but already it was impossible to say which was which.
People, society, Twitter. They’re all drivers of each other. And you are right, it’s the people on there, not the actual platform. But the platform gives... well a platform for the worst people in society. There’s always an army of people lurking on there waiting for the slightest slip up, then they pounce. And nobody is safe, no matter how “woke” you are. They’ll cannibalise their own. You have people losing their jobs and careers over the slightest mistake. It just doesn’t seem worth it, particularly if you’re well known and have a lot to lose.
Obviously in hindsight that Shakespeare quote is a pretty stupid one to use but there’s clearly and obviously no attempt to be racist. The Ape similie refers to low intelligence, not race. Context is irrelevant these days.
Great post and just for a bit of balance.
When I hear the word ‘ape’, I don’t immediately think ‘black person’. But thank God that people who do instinctively think ‘black person’ when hearing ‘ape’ are around to remind people like me that we are racist for not thinking it. https://t.co/bJgTsIohiH
Twitter is absolutely toxic. I don’t understand why anybody does it. A 40 year career over because someone has interpreted a four hundred year old text in a way that it was not intended. It’s an absolute minefield out there. You don’t have to actually say something offensive anymore, it just has to be interpreted as offensive. How dangerous is that?
Edit: (Apologies to anyone living on or near a minefield)
Minefields have been outlawed and it is now considered a war crime. Not sure how I am going to deter badgers, foxes, deer and squirrels from my garden now.
Tell you what, next time you see a black person, walk up to them and call him/her an "angry ape" and see what happens...
Perhaps you can post up their reaction on here ðŸ‘
That’s not what happened though. It’s quite clear he wasn’t using the phrase in a racist manner. Stupid thing to say but to see people calling for him to be sacked over something so stupid shows how pathetic the world has become.
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Alistair Stewart on 15:47 - Jan 30 with 3093 views
Here is a good test case going on before our eyes. The broadcaster Alastair Stewart has left his job of decades after sending a quotation of Shakespeare to a member of the public. The quotation (because it refers to an ape and the recipient happens to be black) is being interpreted as a sign of racism. A sign so grave that a long and illustrious career is over.
So here is a test. Does ITV actually think that Alastair Stewart is a secret racist, really hates black people and has spent his life hating black people? Does it think that he has managed to hide this throughout the course of a long and illustrious career, in which I imagine that he worked with people of every imaginable race and background? Does it think that his deep, terrible racism has only come to the surface once? And does it believe that on the one occasion when Alastair Stewart finally satisfied his racist urges he did so through the medium of Measure for Measure? The likelihood — as Jeeves would say, would appear to be a remote one.
Mr Stewart — who, I suppose I should mention, I do not know, and don’t believe I have ever met — has used the same quotation before, in dismissing other social media combatants. But at moments like this the facts seem of little significance.
Yet perhaps this time we could make it different. Perhaps this time we can ask ITV and the jihadis of social media whether they honestly believe the set of events outlined above. Do they honestly think that the above suggestions are true? Or is it possible that a man used a quotation he had used before without any racist intention at all?
Some people will say that it is only the career of Alastair Stewart that lies in the balance. I disagree. At moments like this what lies in the balance is whether we have any interest in truth or not. Whether we have any belief in justice or not. And — in a way — whether we have any recognition of the fallibility of man. Or not. Let’s see.
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Alistair Stewart on 15:58 - Jan 30 with 3074 views
These PC loon witchfinder generals and their Kangaroo courts should put their manufactured/fake outrage aside and judge a person by means of common sense, morals and decency. Oh and use 'grown-up' logic to decide whether the falsely accused had genuine racist intent.
Argus!
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Alistair Stewart on 16:02 - Jan 30 with 3063 views
Here is a good test case going on before our eyes. The broadcaster Alastair Stewart has left his job of decades after sending a quotation of Shakespeare to a member of the public. The quotation (because it refers to an ape and the recipient happens to be black) is being interpreted as a sign of racism. A sign so grave that a long and illustrious career is over.
So here is a test. Does ITV actually think that Alastair Stewart is a secret racist, really hates black people and has spent his life hating black people? Does it think that he has managed to hide this throughout the course of a long and illustrious career, in which I imagine that he worked with people of every imaginable race and background? Does it think that his deep, terrible racism has only come to the surface once? And does it believe that on the one occasion when Alastair Stewart finally satisfied his racist urges he did so through the medium of Measure for Measure? The likelihood — as Jeeves would say, would appear to be a remote one.
Mr Stewart — who, I suppose I should mention, I do not know, and don’t believe I have ever met — has used the same quotation before, in dismissing other social media combatants. But at moments like this the facts seem of little significance.
Yet perhaps this time we could make it different. Perhaps this time we can ask ITV and the jihadis of social media whether they honestly believe the set of events outlined above. Do they honestly think that the above suggestions are true? Or is it possible that a man used a quotation he had used before without any racist intention at all?
Some people will say that it is only the career of Alastair Stewart that lies in the balance. I disagree. At moments like this what lies in the balance is whether we have any interest in truth or not. Whether we have any belief in justice or not. And — in a way — whether we have any recognition of the fallibility of man. Or not. Let’s see.
Yeah but the fella that wrote that is a far right racist gay homophobe.
Well according to some anyway.
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