| Reasons for Russell Martin to leave his post at Swansea ? 20:10 - Mar 7 with 3371 views | KeithHaynes |
As it stands, it would be interesting to know. |  |
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| Reasons for Russell Martin to leave his post at Swansea ? on 20:16 - Mar 7 with 2165 views | Dr_Winston |
More money elsewhere. That's what it usually boils down to. |  |
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| Reasons for Russell Martin to leave his post at Swansea ? on 20:33 - Mar 7 with 2147 views | KeithHaynes |
| Reasons for Russell Martin to leave his post at Swansea ? on 20:16 - Mar 7 by Dr_Winston |
More money elsewhere. That's what it usually boils down to. |
Def not for doing a bad job then ? | |
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| Reasons for Russell Martin to leave his post at Swansea ? on 20:49 - Mar 7 with 2096 views | Dr_Winston |
| Reasons for Russell Martin to leave his post at Swansea ? on 20:33 - Mar 7 by KeithHaynes |
Def not for doing a bad job then ? |
Think he'd have to do a significantly worse one than he is for him to be bombed out at present, although we could be surprised. | |
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| Reasons for Russell Martin to leave his post at Swansea ? on 21:11 - Mar 7 with 2071 views | Whiterockin |
Currently none. |  | | |
| Reasons for Russell Martin to leave his post at Swansea ? on 22:09 - Mar 7 with 2004 views | AndyCole |
| Reasons for Russell Martin to leave his post at Swansea ? on 20:16 - Mar 7 by Dr_Winston |
More money elsewhere. That's what it usually boils down to. |
Oh dear. 'Missing something' still. 'Dr.'
What kind of ownership model would invest more than we have in an ongoing bottom half of the table performing manager ?
Owners would look at our catastrophic demise from Promotion contenders to languishing with the pondlife - despite the relatively huge investment in brand Martin. They would see through the PR machine spin. Unlike the unthinking happy clappers like Winstone and the sheeple.
Bonkers. |  |
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| Reasons for Russell Martin to leave his post at Swansea ? on 22:12 - Mar 7 with 2001 views | Kilkennyjack |
| Reasons for Russell Martin to leave his post at Swansea ? on 20:33 - Mar 7 by KeithHaynes |
Def not for doing a bad job then ? |
Russell stays for me. |  |
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| Reasons for Russell Martin to leave his post at Swansea ? on 22:44 - Mar 7 with 1954 views | AndyCole |
| Reasons for Russell Martin to leave his post at Swansea ? on 22:12 - Mar 7 by Kilkennyjack |
Russell stays for me. |
What's your rationale Kilkenny ?
We are 16th. Poor. ' D- ' in the mid-term report.:
- Beasted by the better, high energy, high driving teams.
- An idealistic 'coach' not a manager. Too blinkered on his own slick PR machine.
He was close to being ditched before the last run. Fact.
There's no appetite for failure amongst the hierarchy. It's anathema to them and us, based on the past two terms of punching way above our weight, with aplomb. | |
| Pro free speech and alternative opinions -
Anti gang-bullying and poor modding thereof -
Will always make a stand against those who consistently choose to turn a blind eye |
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| Reasons for Russell Martin to leave his post at Swansea ? on 22:52 - Mar 7 with 1949 views | magicdaps10 |
| Reasons for Russell Martin to leave his post at Swansea ? on 22:44 - Mar 7 by AndyCole |
What's your rationale Kilkenny ?
We are 16th. Poor. ' D- ' in the mid-term report.:
- Beasted by the better, high energy, high driving teams.
- An idealistic 'coach' not a manager. Too blinkered on his own slick PR machine.
He was close to being ditched before the last run. Fact.
There's no appetite for failure amongst the hierarchy. It's anathema to them and us, based on the past two terms of punching way above our weight, with aplomb. |
What's the last 2 years got to do with this original post and the post you are replying to? |  |
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| Reasons for Russell Martin to leave his post at Swansea ? on 23:29 - Mar 7 with 1915 views | Dr_Parnassus |
I have never thought he should leave.
But I would say if he resorts to the other system again and drops the one that works and as a result we finish the season VERY badly.
Learning is what I want to see from him. If he’s not doing so then that would be the reason for me. |  |
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| Reasons for Russell Martin to leave his post at Swansea ? on 08:10 - Mar 8 with 1835 views | Kilkennyjack |
| Reasons for Russell Martin to leave his post at Swansea ? on 22:44 - Mar 7 by AndyCole |
What's your rationale Kilkenny ?
We are 16th. Poor. ' D- ' in the mid-term report.:
- Beasted by the better, high energy, high driving teams.
- An idealistic 'coach' not a manager. Too blinkered on his own slick PR machine.
He was close to being ditched before the last run. Fact.
There's no appetite for failure amongst the hierarchy. It's anathema to them and us, based on the past two terms of punching way above our weight, with aplomb. |
Well giving away cheap goals on a very regular basis does my head in, but we have style and when we get it right it hints at better times.
Baggies was great, Stoke and Blades beyond poor.
Thats where we are.
Next year should see more consistent results, we wont be challenging though.
Cooperball wasn’t for me, so probably its our keep ball style that means i would still with him.
Interesting that Luke Williams left though, suggests all not well. | |
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| Reasons for Russell Martin to leave his post at Swansea ? on 09:14 - Mar 8 with 1767 views | STID2017 |
Was never recruited as a short term fix.
On a three year contract.
Keep going the way he is now and make a good attempt at promotion next season .
I'll be happy with that |  |
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| Reasons for Russell Martin to leave his post at Swansea ? on 09:32 - Mar 8 with 1761 views | onehunglow |
This is clearly a ruse to make us Rusy doubters happy,especailly as us egg lovers face another humilation on Friday night.(lock away your pussies ,pups and wives).
Martin going back to his businesses or taking on a far bugger football football cliub would make me happier than a pig in a trough of poo.
WHY? Because far from leading us forward ,he is taking us backwards. Our standards ,our expectations have been lowered and he's been very shrewd in doing that basically alluding to us being crap when he took over with bad players.It was not the case.
We have the quality to be up there ,at least play off position.
We are not and that is down to Martin,whether his legions of happy clapping bitch boys like it or not.
Meanwhile,sing the Anthem in tune eh and not like a pub full of pyssed up valley warriors. | |
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| Reasons for Russell Martin to leave his post at Swansea ? on 09:33 - Mar 8 with 1759 views | johnlangy |
| Reasons for Russell Martin to leave his post at Swansea ? on 09:14 - Mar 8 by STID2017 |
Was never recruited as a short term fix.
On a three year contract.
Keep going the way he is now and make a good attempt at promotion next season .
I'll be happy with that |
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| Reasons for Russell Martin to leave his post at Swansea ? on 09:42 - Mar 8 with 1736 views | STID2017 |
| Reasons for Russell Martin to leave his post at Swansea ? on 09:32 - Mar 8 by onehunglow |
This is clearly a ruse to make us Rusy doubters happy,especailly as us egg lovers face another humilation on Friday night.(lock away your pussies ,pups and wives).
Martin going back to his businesses or taking on a far bugger football football cliub would make me happier than a pig in a trough of poo.
WHY? Because far from leading us forward ,he is taking us backwards. Our standards ,our expectations have been lowered and he's been very shrewd in doing that basically alluding to us being crap when he took over with bad players.It was not the case.
We have the quality to be up there ,at least play off position.
We are not and that is down to Martin,whether his legions of happy clapping bitch boys like it or not.
Meanwhile,sing the Anthem in tune eh and not like a pub full of pyssed up valley warriors. |
If the owners had expectations of promotion this season, they would have done a deal to move Cooper out early ( as he clearly wanted to go ), got in an experienced manager and backed him with the players to get us up.
Clearly they are looking at the longer view, as are most fans.
If we scraped up this season, do we have what it takes to make us sustainable in the EPL .
Norwich, Brentford and Watford seemed much better equipped but all are struggling ( although Brentford seem lucky that the rule of " at least three worse teams" seems to be working for them.
Martin is going nowhere
Unless he succeeds with us and moves on to better things, in which case I would be gutted
Why is that so hard to understand?
As for the Anthem, will be sung loud and proud on Saturday.
As at every game [Post edited 8 Mar 2022 9:52]
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| Reasons for Russell Martin to leave his post at Swansea ? on 09:47 - Mar 8 with 1746 views | sw02sea |
It’s the brain dead passing under the high press that does my head in. We bossed the first half Saturday. 2nd half Coventry pressed up higher, and we were lucky not to concede more.
Tonight will be litmus test of how Martin sets us up with a paper thin squad. | | | |
| Reasons for Russell Martin to leave his post at Swansea ? on 09:51 - Mar 8 with 1733 views | STID2017 |
| Reasons for Russell Martin to leave his post at Swansea ? on 09:47 - Mar 8 by sw02sea |
It’s the brain dead passing under the high press that does my head in. We bossed the first half Saturday. 2nd half Coventry pressed up higher, and we were lucky not to concede more.
Tonight will be litmus test of how Martin sets us up with a paper thin squad. |
Very tough one tonight.
I think defence has to be tight then ho from there.
No suicidal passing tonight please | |
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| Reasons for Russell Martin to leave his post at Swansea ? on 11:32 - Mar 8 with 1688 views | vetchonian |
If he continues to learn and adapt as he appears to be and develops the play from the last few games there should be no reason for him to be "forced" to leave his post....I doubt if any other clubs will come calling this summer but if we finish strong and do well next season as we should it may be possible he may get a "better offer" | |
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| Reasons for Russell Martin to leave his post at Swansea ? on 12:37 - Mar 8 with 1636 views | Whiterockin |
| Reasons for Russell Martin to leave his post at Swansea ? on 08:10 - Mar 8 by Kilkennyjack |
Well giving away cheap goals on a very regular basis does my head in, but we have style and when we get it right it hints at better times.
Baggies was great, Stoke and Blades beyond poor.
Thats where we are.
Next year should see more consistent results, we wont be challenging though.
Cooperball wasn’t for me, so probably its our keep ball style that means i would still with him.
Interesting that Luke Williams left though, suggests all not well. |
"Interesting that Luke Williams left though, suggests all not well."
Is it a coincidence that we have tweaked the system since he left? | | | |
| Reasons for Russell Martin to leave his post at Swansea ? on 16:39 - Mar 8 with 1537 views | onehunglow |
| Reasons for Russell Martin to leave his post at Swansea ? on 09:42 - Mar 8 by STID2017 |
If the owners had expectations of promotion this season, they would have done a deal to move Cooper out early ( as he clearly wanted to go ), got in an experienced manager and backed him with the players to get us up.
Clearly they are looking at the longer view, as are most fans.
If we scraped up this season, do we have what it takes to make us sustainable in the EPL .
Norwich, Brentford and Watford seemed much better equipped but all are struggling ( although Brentford seem lucky that the rule of " at least three worse teams" seems to be working for them.
Martin is going nowhere
Unless he succeeds with us and moves on to better things, in which case I would be gutted
Why is that so hard to understand?
As for the Anthem, will be sung loud and proud on Saturday.
As at every game [Post edited 8 Mar 2022 9:52]
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I agree with the first part,less on the second but it’s not a bad post and easy to understand.Unless yiu arecsleeping with him,you have no idea as to his future plans.
Mark my words,he will drop us like a stone if it suits him,as is the case with every manager ,which is why no manager should be supported per se . [Post edited 8 Mar 2022 16:41]
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| Reasons for Russell Martin to leave his post at Swansea ? on 19:20 - Mar 8 with 1474 views | QJumpingJack |
I would expect Norwich to make an approach in the Summer (if they get relegated) | | | |
| Reasons for Russell Martin to leave his post at Swansea ? on 20:09 - Mar 8 with 1447 views | onehunglow |
| Reasons for Russell Martin to leave his post at Swansea ? on 19:20 - Mar 8 by QJumpingJack |
I would expect Norwich to make an approach in the Summer (if they get relegated) |
and he wont turn that chance down | |
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| Reasons for Russell Martin to leave his post at Swansea ? on 23:13 - Mar 8 with 1329 views | STID2017 |
| Reasons for Russell Martin to leave his post at Swansea ? on 16:39 - Mar 8 by onehunglow |
I agree with the first part,less on the second but it’s not a bad post and easy to understand.Unless yiu arecsleeping with him,you have no idea as to his future plans.
Mark my words,he will drop us like a stone if it suits him,as is the case with every manager ,which is why no manager should be supported per se . [Post edited 8 Mar 2022 16:41]
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Always support the manager until he is no longer the manager.
Correct, he could win the lottery and think "Beggar this for a game of soldiers" and be off ski? | |
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| Reasons for Russell Martin to leave his post at Swansea ? on 06:44 - Mar 9 with 1250 views | PawelAbbott |
Martin will be gone as soon as he gets a better offer.
He has never shown enough ability to manage a team even close to promotion. Last nights capitulation again shows how tactically limited he is. Yes, after the Red defeat was highly likely but conceding 5 was not. More suicidal passing with only 10 men.
His career plans appear to be based on winning plaudits for style rather than results. He will probably carve out another 2-3 jobs based on it and then disappear into the swamp of based managers looking for a job. | | | |
| Reasons for Russell Martin to leave his post at Swansea ? on 07:15 - Mar 9 with 1227 views | Dr_Parnassus |
| Reasons for Russell Martin to leave his post at Swansea ? on 06:44 - Mar 9 by PawelAbbott |
Martin will be gone as soon as he gets a better offer.
He has never shown enough ability to manage a team even close to promotion. Last nights capitulation again shows how tactically limited he is. Yes, after the Red defeat was highly likely but conceding 5 was not. More suicidal passing with only 10 men.
His career plans appear to be based on winning plaudits for style rather than results. He will probably carve out another 2-3 jobs based on it and then disappear into the swamp of based managers looking for a job. |
To resort to defensive short passing when down to 10 men was extremely naive. They were already pressing, and to do it with one less option to pass to was bordering on ridiculous.
No surprise they capitalised within 30 seconds, they probably couldn’t believe their luck. | |
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| Reasons for Russell Martin to leave his post at Swansea ? on 09:10 - Mar 9 with 1151 views | onehunglow |
| Reasons for Russell Martin to leave his post at Swansea ? on 07:15 - Mar 9 by Dr_Parnassus |
To resort to defensive short passing when down to 10 men was extremely naive. They were already pressing, and to do it with one less option to pass to was bordering on ridiculous.
No surprise they capitalised within 30 seconds, they probably couldn’t believe their luck. |
And something that should have been emphasised at half time
Martin is arrogance personified and ,as I keep saying,he is taking us one way-downwards.
He is clever though and manipulative especially with Press and Fans.
Think I 'll leave it there-for now. | |
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