| One for Trampie on 18:25 - Jun 29 with 1253 views | Catullus |
Price is away with the fairies if he thinks he has any case at all. There he is at the end of the garden with Elsie Wright and Francis Griffith except they at least, know it's a hoax. Price really believes, as does Kilky.
At least in Scotland the SNP can make that claim, being convincingly the biggest party.
Let's see how may turn out for this march, if the idea of Welsh Indy is as popular as they make out, there should be 50,000 plus there surely! |  |
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| One for Trampie on 18:28 - Jun 29 with 1238 views | Whiterockin |
I have no objection to a Welsh vote apart from it being another complete waste of money. We all know what the result will be so what's the point. |  | | |
| One for Trampie on 18:36 - Jun 29 with 1213 views | Catullus |
| One for Trampie on 18:28 - Jun 29 by Whiterockin |
I have no objection to a Welsh vote apart from it being another complete waste of money. We all know what the result will be so what's the point. |
This is where I agree with Drakeford, when a party with an indy vote on its manifesto wins then yes, have the vote. Until then we can file it away with the other nonsense.
Labour and Plaid between them only convinced 28% of the electorate to choose them. The other 72% either voted for someone else or just didn't bother voting, because most people in Wales don't give a stuff about the Senedd. | |
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| One for Trampie on 18:39 - Jun 29 with 1202 views | BryanSwan |
| One for Trampie on 18:28 - Jun 29 by Whiterockin |
I have no objection to a Welsh vote apart from it being another complete waste of money. We all know what the result will be so what's the point. |
I am wholeheartedly pro independence, but a vote now would be futile. If Scotland leaves and is prosperous that'll be an adequate enough time to push for one.
Any time before that and a vote has almost no chance. | |
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| One for Trampie on 18:41 - Jun 29 with 1192 views | Flynnidine_Zidownes |
How many politicians do we bloody need? Either get rid of the Senedd or have independence and kick Westminster out. Having both is just stupid. | | | |
| One for Trampie on 18:42 - Jun 29 with 1189 views | Whiterockin |
| One for Trampie on 18:39 - Jun 29 by BryanSwan |
I am wholeheartedly pro independence, but a vote now would be futile. If Scotland leaves and is prosperous that'll be an adequate enough time to push for one.
Any time before that and a vote has almost no chance. |
If either won their vote would they take over their share of the national debt? | | | |
| One for Trampie on 18:42 - Jun 29 with 1189 views | CountyJim |
Can't we have a referendum to get rid of Scotland |  | | |
| One for Trampie on 19:25 - Jun 29 with 1133 views | 73__73 |
I want a referendum to break away from north wales | |
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| One for Trampie on 19:27 - Jun 29 with 1139 views | CountyJim |
| One for Trampie on 19:25 - Jun 29 by 73__73 |
I want a referendum to break away from north wales |
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| One for Trampie on 19:30 - Jun 29 with 1129 views | Whiterockin |
| One for Trampie on 19:25 - Jun 29 by 73__73 |
I want a referendum to break away from north wales |
I want a referendum to break away from East Wales. | | | |
| One for Trampie on 20:43 - Jun 29 with 1090 views | Kilkennyjack |
| One for Trampie on 18:42 - Jun 29 by Whiterockin |
If either won their vote would they take over their share of the national debt? |
The uk has a huge debt so yes you can understand Scotland, Cymru and the north of Ireland wanting out before it gets even worse. Good point.
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| One for Trampie on 21:06 - Jun 29 with 1083 views | Catullus |
| One for Trampie on 20:43 - Jun 29 by Kilkennyjack |
The uk has a huge debt so yes you can understand Scotland, Cymru and the north of Ireland wanting out before it gets even worse. Good point.
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Yeah, lets breakaway with a massive debt to start with that will ensure Wlaes credit rating is in a massive dark hole. We won't be able to borrow any money or if we do, it'd be at extortionate rates that we couldn't afford.
We'd be broke, we couldn't afford a free NHS....we could probably still afford 96 Senedd members though and maybe even a larger gravy train for these ridiculous politicians. | |
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| One for Trampie on 21:21 - Jun 29 with 1078 views | Kilkennyjack |
| One for Trampie on 21:06 - Jun 29 by Catullus |
Yeah, lets breakaway with a massive debt to start with that will ensure Wlaes credit rating is in a massive dark hole. We won't be able to borrow any money or if we do, it'd be at extortionate rates that we couldn't afford.
We'd be broke, we couldn't afford a free NHS....we could probably still afford 96 Senedd members though and maybe even a larger gravy train for these ridiculous politicians. |
Completely incorrect.
If we stay the uk debt ever increases as spaffer and his posh pals loot us.
A debt taken in your name, is not a debt taken with your consent.
That a big difference.
When the Baltic states split from Russia debt was not an issue despite the Moscow debt.
This principle goes back to 1920s for all of Estonia, Lithuania, and Latvia.
The debt was Russian only.
Cymru is not a hostage. | |
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| One for Trampie on 21:38 - Jun 29 with 1070 views | BryanSwan |
| One for Trampie on 21:06 - Jun 29 by Catullus |
Yeah, lets breakaway with a massive debt to start with that will ensure Wlaes credit rating is in a massive dark hole. We won't be able to borrow any money or if we do, it'd be at extortionate rates that we couldn't afford.
We'd be broke, we couldn't afford a free NHS....we could probably still afford 96 Senedd members though and maybe even a larger gravy train for these ridiculous politicians. |
Every country in the world has a deficit and is in "debt".
So by that logic the UK should be in a "massive dark hole" that cannot borrow? | |
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| One for Trampie on 21:43 - Jun 29 with 1049 views | Flashberryjack |
| One for Trampie on 21:38 - Jun 29 by BryanSwan |
Every country in the world has a deficit and is in "debt".
So by that logic the UK should be in a "massive dark hole" that cannot borrow? |
If Wales left the UK, who would Drakeford have to blame when things go wrong then. |  |
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| One for Trampie on 21:45 - Jun 29 with 1043 views | onehunglow |
Wales going independent might be a good move for me
Property prices would collape,people move out in droves then I can buy a small holding in the Ruthin area | |
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| One for Trampie on 22:16 - Jun 29 with 1025 views | trampie |
| One for Trampie on 18:36 - Jun 29 by Catullus |
This is where I agree with Drakeford, when a party with an indy vote on its manifesto wins then yes, have the vote. Until then we can file it away with the other nonsense.
Labour and Plaid between them only convinced 28% of the electorate to choose them. The other 72% either voted for someone else or just didn't bother voting, because most people in Wales don't give a stuff about the Senedd. |
That is not how our system works, the majority of people virtually never vote for the winning party including General Elections. |  |
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| One for Trampie on 22:35 - Jun 29 with 1021 views | Treforys_Jack |
I want an independent Treforys , we got the DVLA and everything mun. |  | | |
| One for Trampie on 22:40 - Jun 29 with 1006 views | onehunglow |
| One for Trampie on 22:35 - Jun 29 by Treforys_Jack |
I want an independent Treforys , we got the DVLA and everything mun. |
Maybe Wales could take over Wirral.
Boundary already in place . | |
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| One for Trampie on 22:49 - Jun 29 with 1002 views | Boundy |
| One for Trampie on 19:30 - Jun 29 by Whiterockin |
I want a referendum to break away from East Wales. |
I think you'll find the east especially anywhere with the CF post code broke away from the rest of us years ago | |
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| One for Trampie on 07:29 - Jun 30 with 941 views | JACKMANANDBOY |
I would merge with Australia, it would be warmer in the winter. |  |
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| One for Trampie on 08:21 - Jun 30 with 926 views | Kilkennyjack |
| One for Trampie on 22:35 - Jun 29 by Treforys_Jack |
I want an independent Treforys , we got the DVLA and everything mun. |
The people of Treforys - even picked on a random basis - would care more about Cymru than Johnson, Raab, and Mogg. | |
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| One for Trampie on 08:23 - Jun 30 with 924 views | Kilkennyjack |
| One for Trampie on 21:43 - Jun 29 by Flashberryjack |
If Wales left the UK, who would Drakeford have to blame when things go wrong then. |
Oh this is a-bit like …. If uk left the eu then who would Johnson blame when things go wrong ?
I thought it was familiar. | |
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| One for Trampie on 08:25 - Jun 30 with 922 views | Kilkennyjack |
| One for Trampie on 07:29 - Jun 30 by JACKMANANDBOY |
I would merge with Australia, it would be warmer in the winter. |
Australia are currently busy getting rid of the Queen.
Yes Cymru should do the same. | |
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| One for Trampie on 08:25 - Jun 30 with 921 views | Kilkennyjack |
| One for Trampie on 21:45 - Jun 29 by onehunglow |
Wales going independent might be a good move for me
Property prices would collape,people move out in droves then I can buy a small holding in the Ruthin area |
We would send you to Rwanda as an illegal immigrant. | |
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