| new stadium 22:43 - Mar 13 with 28679 views | digswellhoop |
if Linford cristie stadium not an option do a spurs buy all properties around stadium |  | | |  |
| new stadium on 16:00 - May 4 with 3486 views | NewBee |
| new stadium on 10:45 - May 4 by Clive_Anderson |
Is the school even for sale?
If you knocked everything down and moved the South Africa Road stand towards the road a little and moved the executive boxes to the corner the school was above a new School End stand, you could get a slightly bigger stadium I suppose.
With some safe standing you could probably get a 23-25k stadium overall. Is it worth it though? Would cost a fortune. |
Re. Safe Standing, it is a condition of installation in this country that the ratio of standing places to seating places remains at 1:1. That is, you get the same capacity whether sitting or standing.
In Germany, afaik they allow 1.3 standing places to every 1 seat. | | | |
| new stadium on 16:31 - May 4 with 3386 views | kensalriser |
Whatever the technical difficulties of redeveloping LR, the most obvious financial disincentive is not being able to realise the difference in value of the site compared to a site where land values are lower. That's probably what makes it a non-starter. If LR could be redeveloped in way that made long term financial sense it would have happened by now. |  |
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| new stadium on 16:36 - May 4 with 3371 views | Sonofpugwash |
| new stadium on 11:29 - May 4 by Monkey_Roots |
Car bomb.
I know it’s a random out there unlikely thought, but if I had it, some nefarious actor may have it too. |
Yeah,I considered that as well.Abandoning a car in an underpass always would look dodgy though,and with the proliferation of cctv.... |  |
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| new stadium on 17:29 - May 4 with 3240 views | Juzzie |
@NewBee;
"P.S. Any of your son's youth team thinking of becoming Bees fans yet?"
A few of them already are. The football club (only a few miles from Brentford) I think has connections/is affiliated to Brentford FC, our team's coach is a Brentford ST-er, his wife works at Brentford (in quite a senior role) and a lot of the other teams coaches, parents, boys & girls are fans. Saw some of them at the game on Saturday.
Out of nine boys in our team, we have;
Brentford x 3
QPR x 1
Liverpool x 2
Leeds x 1
Chelsea x 2
[notice no Manchester clubs :) ]
A few of the non Brentford supporting boys wore the black away kit to the game. Our coach was cheekily suggesting they're converted but each one said they were happy to wear it on the day but still hold allegiance to their own club. |  | | |
| new stadium on 02:03 - May 12 with 2874 views | Hoopsie |
To all the "redevelop Loftus Road Stadium enthusiast", myself included, it seems this is not an option according to London Borough of Hammersmith & Fulham Local Plan policy adopted Feb 2018 which stipulated Loftus Road Stadium in the "White City Regeneration Area" - WCRA 2 as an dedicated "Open Space" but clearer wordings states (specifically regarding the stadium precinct) under Strategic Site Polict WCRA2:
If either the Loftus Road Stadium or Territorial Army (TA) Centre come forward for redevelopment, the council will seek residential led development. In relation to the Loftus Road site, in particular, there should be re-provision of community facilities and open space in the borough, in accordance with other policies in the Local Plan.
With the following justification:
The Queens Park Rangers (QPR) football ground at Loftus Road is a cramped site with limited opportunity for expansion, and the Club's ambitions should be considered in planning of this area over the next 20 years. The football stadium is a valued community asset for the White City community and the pitch is designated as open space. Therefore any redevelopment of this site would need to re-provide a sport/community/ leisure facility that could achieve substantial benefits for the community as well as open space, on-site or within the borough, in accordance with the other policies within the local Plan. The TA Centre is a low intensity use of land which could be better used given its location. The opportunity for a development to facilitate estate renewal should be considered if the TA facility can be relocated, but development must also contribute to the objectives for regeneration of the area, including housing for local people.
I read this as
- Council will strongly encourage residential development with open space communal provision in the Loftus Road site
- Council will most probably discourage or reject any full scale redevelopment of Loftus Road as a modern state of art football stadium
- It will limit/restrict any possible refurbishment of the current stadium to increase (or worst still decrease) the current seating capacity in accordance to modern requirements and amenities. Possibly zero chance other then cosmetic renovation (change seating to standing). Low or no possibility of upgrading auxiliary area to include any commercial facilities as well
- Even the acquisition of the school precinct west of the stadium would not alter the Council's position, moreover the school site is not included in the White City Regeneration Area which the current stadium site falls under
- Council seems to suggest the Club should look elsewhere (not necessary within the borough, which means they might not want to or able to help seeking an appropriate site) with regards to our "club's ambitions for the next 20 years (foreseeable future)" - If we desire a modern 30,000 capacity stadium with non-match day facilities.
- A possible site swap (as suggested by a few posters) of the Linford Christie Stadium site and Loftus Road Stadium, if the Council is keen to assist, but so far we are hearing negative news on this front
I think we should resign to the fact that Loftus Road Stadium is not a long term viable nor sustainable asset for the club and we should really be looking elsewhere, within the borough, within W12 for another site. I think this understanding of Council's vision in the local planning areas move me on in harbouring any residual thoughts of the possibility of revamping and refurbishing the spiritual home of our club for so many years.
I think someone here has mentioned before a site east of Linford Christie, Latymer Upper school playing fields near Woodlane High School - a possible site? It looks more than twice the size of Loftus Road and is clear of residential buildings abutting and further away from the hospital. Well we don't need the whole site, could do a joint venture to 'redevelop' the site. Anyone knows if the school might be interested in selling (perhaps in exchange for Loftus Road)? Quite a far-fetched idea but looking at how Heston training ground came about out of the blue after years of struggle with Warren Farm, perhaps someone in the club is doing something behind the scene, and suddenly QPR has secure a new stadium site that we all had hoped for after recent debacle with CarGiant/Old Oak common and difficulty which is Linford Christie. Who knows? |  |
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| new stadium on 06:37 - May 12 with 2718 views | Gloucs_R |
We're not getting a new stadium under these owners. Ten years ago the idea was launched, absolutely no progress since. Now one, if not the, oldest, non developed, professional football stadiums in and around London.
As a club we are now plucky old QPR battling to survive in the championship. Our next promotion will be out of league 1 not into the premier. [Post edited 12 May 2023 8:23]
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| new stadium on 08:40 - May 12 with 2529 views | BrianMcCarthy |
| new stadium on 10:07 - May 4 by joe90 |
The old Atletico Madrid Stadium had a road under one of the stands. There's another more glamorous example in Birmingham:
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First time I went to Villa it was dark (I think it's always dark in Birmingham) and my travelling gang were little lost kids and just walking around. Must have looked like easy pickings for the locals. We came to that part and there were no lights underneath the building. I was cacking it. Dead in Birmingham. Don't bury me here. Bring my body home and sing songs about me.
Nothing happened, of course. I was never worried, me. |  |
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| new stadium on 09:38 - May 12 with 2456 views | ted_hendrix |
New stadium?
Give over. |  |
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| new stadium on 10:27 - May 12 with 2341 views | qprcmob |
Can i buy 41 Ellerslie Road please. Cash buy so maybe a discount ? |  | | |
| new stadium on 12:18 - May 12 with 2176 views | Northernr |
| new stadium on 10:27 - May 12 by qprcmob |
Can i buy 41 Ellerslie Road please. Cash buy so maybe a discount ? |
Not to derail the thread entirely but a nice snapshot of raw insanity here...
25b, Ellerslie Road, London, Greater London W12 7BN
Flat
£390,000 14 Apr 2022 Leasehold
£192,550 25 Jul 2002 Leasehold
£63,000 21 Aug 1996 Leasehold |  | | |
| new stadium on 12:29 - May 12 with 2135 views | Rangersw12 |
Apologies if this has been mentioned but isn't the whole issue regarding the LC site that the council see the owners as billionaires yet the owners expect the council to gift them the site
Our owners then just blame the council for not helping the club. | | | |
| new stadium on 17:50 - May 12 with 1810 views | derbyhoop |
| new stadium on 12:18 - May 12 by Northernr |
Not to derail the thread entirely but a nice snapshot of raw insanity here...
25b, Ellerslie Road, London, Greater London W12 7BN
Flat
£390,000 14 Apr 2022 Leasehold
£192,550 25 Jul 2002 Leasehold
£63,000 21 Aug 1996 Leasehold |
That should be a warning to anybody believing we can buy up the properties around LR and expand the ground that way. Just not economic. |  |
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| new stadium on 19:07 - May 12 with 1685 views | Rebalhoop |
Have just read about the San Siro and AC and Inter,seems to be a lot of pros and cons in groundsharing,
I am not in favour at all,but…could we,should we,where and who with.
Tin hat is on,so over to you lot… | | | |
| new stadium on 19:19 - May 12 with 1656 views | Gloucs_R |
| new stadium on 19:07 - May 12 by Rebalhoop |
Have just read about the San Siro and AC and Inter,seems to be a lot of pros and cons in groundsharing,
I am not in favour at all,but…could we,should we,where and who with.
Tin hat is on,so over to you lot… |
It depends on what you're talking about? If you're considering sharing with Fulham then we would never see the additional revenue from a stadium. If you're talking about having someone like ealing rugby join us the that's completely different. | |
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| new stadium on 19:39 - May 12 with 1602 views | Rebalhoop |
| new stadium on 19:19 - May 12 by Gloucs_R |
It depends on what you're talking about? If you're considering sharing with Fulham then we would never see the additional revenue from a stadium. If you're talking about having someone like ealing rugby join us the that's completely different. |
Sharing with another football club,sharing building and running costs,making sure there is plenty of scope for non football activities,ie corporate stuff,
Both AC and Inter want to go alone,but there is doubt about there ability to fund a move. | | | |
| new stadium on 19:44 - May 12 with 1591 views | Gloucs_R |
| new stadium on 19:39 - May 12 by Rebalhoop |
Sharing with another football club,sharing building and running costs,making sure there is plenty of scope for non football activities,ie corporate stuff,
Both AC and Inter want to go alone,but there is doubt about there ability to fund a move. |
But we would need to own the stadium otherwise we couldn't claim the revenue for additional things like meeting rooms and hotel space | |
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| new stadium on 20:07 - May 12 with 1523 views | Juzzie |
Who would we share with?
Brentford have a spanking new stadium
Fulham have redeveloped three sides of Craven Cottage including a brand new riverside stand
Chelsea, anyone? | | | |
| new stadium on 20:10 - May 12 with 1520 views | PunteR |
We shouldn't even be talking about new stadiums until we've sorted out the 1st team and the rest of the squad.
Laughable we even had plans for 40,000 seater stadium in Old Oak or wherever it was. Can't believe I shared the designs on FB saying something along the lines of " big things ahead".
What a cupid stunt I am. !
Bunch of f@ckwits running the show. |  |
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