| England Thread 🏴 19:29 - Oct 17 with 160553 views | BazzaInTheLoft |
About time we had one I think? |  | | |  |
| England Thread 🏴 on 22:31 - Jun 11 with 3452 views | BazzaInTheLoft |
| England Thread 🏴 on 22:16 - Jun 11 by joe90 |
Ah, my comment was poorly written. What I was trying to say was that before Southgate England had been a bit sh*te. Great players, toxic media, high expectations, fractured team..etc. Then Southgate came along and got a good feeling back around England IMO. As you say, he got us to 2 out 3 of the last major tournament finals. I think that’s a tough act for Tuchel to follow. |
Totally agree.
If Tuchel doesn't isn't successful I won't hold it against him though.
There are some stats elsewhere on this forum that said all the big teams only really have 8-12% of winning it.
That's the mathematical nature of tournament football. Opened my eyes a bit. So many obstacles that have no bearing on the overall quality or form of a team. [Post edited 11 Jun 22:33]
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| England Thread 🏴 on 22:50 - Jun 11 with 3353 views | daveB |
| England Thread 🏴 on 22:28 - Jun 11 by Hunterhoop |
Dave, it’s for the US TV networks.
In the US they went straight to adverts as soon as the water breaks happen.
US networks almost never go 45mins without adverts across any channel or sport.
Infantino has sold the game’s soul.
It actually will change the game. Where the temps aren’t ridiculous it will enable teams to press for longer, and it may cause a delay in subs. It probably benefits the smaller sides as the manager gets two more chances to get messages to the side and change things.
Don’t like them. And think the clock should stop, not have the 3 mins bolted on as injury time. |
I'm sure that had an influence on things but I think they will be needed and are not unusual to have water breaks when you have games in the summer.
The games soul was sold years ago when they gave the World Cup to Qatar and Russia |  | | |
| England Thread 🏴 on 09:36 - Jun 12 with 3130 views | SydneyRs |
| England Thread 🏴 on 22:16 - Jun 11 by joe90 |
Ah, my comment was poorly written. What I was trying to say was that before Southgate England had been a bit sh*te. Great players, toxic media, high expectations, fractured team..etc. Then Southgate came along and got a good feeling back around England IMO. As you say, he got us to 2 out 3 of the last major tournament finals. I think that’s a tough act for Tuchel to follow. |
It is but I like what I've seen from Tuchel so far. He's very good with the media (expertly swatted away a somewhat pathetic attempt to draw him into politics in a recent presser), the players seem to like him and he's actually picked people on form and their place in the team. A far cry from trying to play Lampard and Gerrard together etc.
Time as always will tell. |  | | |
| England Thread 🏴 on 09:50 - Jun 12 with 3100 views | TheChef |
I'm not expecting much - we don't tend to do well in the Americas what with the heat and humidity, reaching the round of 16 or quarter finals I can live with. And no thanks to FIFA, having the extra knockout round makes it more tricky.
I thought Simon Kuper put it well in his recent World Cup book:
"These exercises confirmed an obvious truth that I took years to learn: so many chance elements affect the result of a single football match that it’s pointless even trying to forecast a World Cup. The winner of the tournament plays just seven games, most of which will be decided by a single goal or on penalties. In such a short random walk, almost any plausible team can get lucky. Only once you accept that the World Cup is held together by flukes (a bit like life itself) does the whole thing start to make sense."
But anyway, I'm predicting a Latin American or South European team to win it. |  |
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| England Thread 🏴 on 11:21 - Jun 12 with 2993 views | daveB |
| England Thread 🏴 on 09:50 - Jun 12 by TheChef |
I'm not expecting much - we don't tend to do well in the Americas what with the heat and humidity, reaching the round of 16 or quarter finals I can live with. And no thanks to FIFA, having the extra knockout round makes it more tricky.
I thought Simon Kuper put it well in his recent World Cup book:
"These exercises confirmed an obvious truth that I took years to learn: so many chance elements affect the result of a single football match that it’s pointless even trying to forecast a World Cup. The winner of the tournament plays just seven games, most of which will be decided by a single goal or on penalties. In such a short random walk, almost any plausible team can get lucky. Only once you accept that the World Cup is held together by flukes (a bit like life itself) does the whole thing start to make sense."
But anyway, I'm predicting a Latin American or South European team to win it. |
I've watched loads of prediction videos and they all have it between the same 6 teams. France, Spain, Portugal, Brazil, Argentina and England
History tells you the last 4 will have one random team you don't expect. Been Morocco, Croatia even Turkey over the years, will be another unexpected one this time | | | |
| England Thread 🏴 on 11:46 - Jun 12 with 2950 views | derbyhoop |
Drinks breaks are vital if the temperature is in the 30s. Unnecessary when it's low 20s.
But it allows USTV networks the chance to sell more sh1t. |  |
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| England Thread 🏴 on 13:03 - Jun 12 with 2869 views | eastside_r |
| England Thread 🏴 on 11:21 - Jun 12 by daveB |
I've watched loads of prediction videos and they all have it between the same 6 teams. France, Spain, Portugal, Brazil, Argentina and England
History tells you the last 4 will have one random team you don't expect. Been Morocco, Croatia even Turkey over the years, will be another unexpected one this time |
I know this is obvious but at least 2 of that ‘big 6’ won’t make the semifinals. |  | | |
| England Thread 🏴 on 13:24 - Jun 12 with 2820 views | joe90 |
| England Thread 🏴 on 22:31 - Jun 11 by BazzaInTheLoft |
Totally agree.
If Tuchel doesn't isn't successful I won't hold it against him though.
There are some stats elsewhere on this forum that said all the big teams only really have 8-12% of winning it.
That's the mathematical nature of tournament football. Opened my eyes a bit. So many obstacles that have no bearing on the overall quality or form of a team. [Post edited 11 Jun 22:33]
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Yeah, it's a massive task and there are so many variables out of his control.
I just want to enjoy the tournament and if England have a good run then that's a bonus. [Post edited 12 Jun 13:24]
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| England Thread 🏴 on 14:46 - Jun 12 with 2719 views | daveB |
| England Thread 🏴 on 13:03 - Jun 12 by eastside_r |
I know this is obvious but at least 2 of that ‘big 6’ won’t make the semifinals. |
of course but they seem to always have 4 of those 6 in the semi final which feels unlikely to me, certainly the best 6 teams on paper but a couple of them will go out early.
I quite fancy Japan or Norway to go deep in this one [Post edited 12 Jun 14:47]
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| England Thread 🏴 on 15:43 - Jun 12 with 2636 views | TheChef |
| England Thread 🏴 on 11:21 - Jun 12 by daveB |
I've watched loads of prediction videos and they all have it between the same 6 teams. France, Spain, Portugal, Brazil, Argentina and England
History tells you the last 4 will have one random team you don't expect. Been Morocco, Croatia even Turkey over the years, will be another unexpected one this time |
Well yes, most likely it will be one of those six teams (OK maybe not England).
And yes also, there tends to be one breakout team in the tournament that no one expects.
In the end you need to be good, but most importantly you need to be lucky. | |
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| England Thread 🏴 on 15:53 - Jun 12 with 2621 views | TheChef |
| England Thread 🏴 on 15:43 - Jun 12 by TheChef |
Well yes, most likely it will be one of those six teams (OK maybe not England).
And yes also, there tends to be one breakout team in the tournament that no one expects.
In the end you need to be good, but most importantly you need to be lucky. |
Oh, and never write off the Germans  | |
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| England Thread 🏴 on 13:36 - Jun 13 with 2359 views | SimonJames |
| England Thread 🏴 on 11:21 - Jun 12 by daveB |
I've watched loads of prediction videos and they all have it between the same 6 teams. France, Spain, Portugal, Brazil, Argentina and England
History tells you the last 4 will have one random team you don't expect. Been Morocco, Croatia even Turkey over the years, will be another unexpected one this time |
I expect it to be Morocco again. |  |
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| England Thread 🏴 on 14:53 - Jun 13 with 2320 views | SydneyRs |
| England Thread 🏴 on 13:36 - Jun 13 by SimonJames |
I expect it to be Morocco again. |
Which therefore makes it not unexpected 😃 | | | |
| England Thread 🏴 on 10:30 - Jun 17 with 1868 views | BazzaInTheLoft |
'England will not adapt style despite US heat'
Does this mean he's going to try and press them? Rice v a 40 year Modric will be interesting seeing how Messi did yesterday.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/fo [Post edited 17 Jun 10:30]
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| England Thread 🏴 on 10:39 - Jun 17 with 1848 views | Lblock |
Just been in the cafe reading the current bun.
Says we have a team of athletes with only 3 in the squad under 6ft
I’m not sure that’s the sort of athlete needed.
Pace, mobility and endurance is what the squad needs/needed.
I’m convinced the German thinks he can Arsenal his way through using set pieces as the main source of attacking threat. Maybe he’s right.
To be fair Southgate did come up with some good set piece routines that helped us progress deep into tournaments. I just think you need to have that little bit of panache at this level to be a threat so hopefully Bellingham and Eze can have good tournaments.
Cmon England! |  |
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| England Thread 🏴 (n/t) on 15:54 - Jun 17 with 1731 views | 7374Ranger |
| England Thread 🏴 on 20:34 - Jun 11 by Hooparoo |
Looks like the Yanks finally got what they wanted. Quarters not halves so they can flog stuff during the “hydration break”. What a joke 😬 |
That's what they wanted in 1994 and as you say, have got it now.
The hydration breaks are actually TV advertising breaks, as the players drink their water and are ready to resume playing within 30 - 45 seconds. After that they just stand around getting instructions or waiting to get back in play.
FIFA and the USA have spoiled this World Cup with the breaks, ticket prices, entry to the country denied for many and ticket allocations.
Having said that, it is the World Cup and most of us are addicted to watching it as we did in 2018 and 2022.
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| England Thread 🏴 on 16:10 - Jun 17 with 1685 views | francisbowles |
Chalobah a strange replacement for Livramento?
RB replaces LB? Already have Spence as a right footed left back. | | | |
| England Thread 🏴 on 16:14 - Jun 17 with 1679 views | stevec |
| England Thread 🏴 on 10:39 - Jun 17 by Lblock |
Just been in the cafe reading the current bun.
Says we have a team of athletes with only 3 in the squad under 6ft
I’m not sure that’s the sort of athlete needed.
Pace, mobility and endurance is what the squad needs/needed.
I’m convinced the German thinks he can Arsenal his way through using set pieces as the main source of attacking threat. Maybe he’s right.
To be fair Southgate did come up with some good set piece routines that helped us progress deep into tournaments. I just think you need to have that little bit of panache at this level to be a threat so hopefully Bellingham and Eze can have good tournaments.
Cmon England! |
The neat and pretty teams seem to run out of juice in the last 30 minutes, combination of heat and physical exertion coping with the bigger players.
No idea who’s who in our squad these days but reckon we’ll need monsters at the back and midfield if we’re to make a go of it. |  | | |
| England Thread 🏴 on 16:52 - Jun 17 with 1617 views | daveB |
| England Thread 🏴 on 16:10 - Jun 17 by francisbowles |
Chalobah a strange replacement for Livramento?
RB replaces LB? Already have Spence as a right footed left back. |
he's come in as a centre half cover and Quansah will now cover right back, Spence left back | | | |
| England Thread 🏴 on 19:48 - Jun 17 with 1496 views | BazzaInTheLoft |
England XI:
Pickford;
James
Stones
Konsa
O'Reilly;
Anderson
Rice
Madueke
Bellingham
Gordon
Kane | | | |
| England Thread 🏴 on 20:34 - Jun 17 with 1395 views | Hooparoo |
Good luck England. Great game for the neutrals 😃 |  |
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| England Thread 🏴 on 21:06 - Jun 17 with 1331 views | Malintabuk |
Are we playing rush goalie... | | | |
| England Thread 🏴 on 21:21 - Jun 17 with 1297 views | Malintabuk |
Just had a little sick come up there... the racist scum | | | |
| England Thread 🏴 on 21:52 - Jun 17 with 1198 views | BrianMcCarthy |
Cracking half of football. Very enjoyable.
Impressed with England so far - solid, pacy, hard-working.
Two fine goals in the half as well.
That last goal for Croatia is offside. New rules, VAR or not. That's just off. |  |
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| England Thread 🏴 on 21:54 - Jun 17 with 1171 views | perpignanR |
| England Thread 🏴 on 21:52 - Jun 17 by BrianMcCarthy |
Cracking half of football. Very enjoyable.
Impressed with England so far - solid, pacy, hard-working.
Two fine goals in the half as well.
That last goal for Croatia is offside. New rules, VAR or not. That's just off. |
I thought so too. | | | |
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