| Where is the next generation of QPR fans coming from? 14:31 - Mar 4 with 6556 views | RblockPrior |
I really worry about us in 10-15 years as I seem to be see less and less younger fans at Loftus road, many I speak to tell me their son/daughter no longer follow QPR or just have no interest.
With what promises to be a difficult next few years ahead I doubt we will be able to attract fans due to our attractive football or star players, while the area is changing massively so I don't see people being attracted to supporting their local club like many of us did years and years ago. Add to that the surrounding clubs who are all performing better and well set up like Chelsea, Brentford and Fulham, why would someone support QPR out of those.
A real issue the club needs to address or am i just overreacting? [Post edited 4 Mar 2019 14:44]
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| Where is the next generation of QPR fans coming from? on 14:33 - Mar 4 with 3299 views | daveB |
The club do a brilliant job of this with the Family Stand and the Fan Zone before the game plus the Soccer Schools to attract and give younger fans a reason to come back. Sadly rather than celebrate this every fans forum sees fans ask them to scrap this so we can go back to a mythical time when the Lower Loft was jumping.
you are right though I can only see our fan base shrinking rather than growing in the next few years |  | | |
| Where is the next generation of QPR fans coming from? on 14:38 - Mar 4 with 3265 views | BazzaInTheLoft |
I think you are over reacting mate.
Lower Loft is always full, and we just won community club of the year for things like our Kids Zone and Tiger Feet.
One thing we are facking good at!
Othewise it's a national problem. Who wants to take 3 kids out for the price of a holiday in Benidorm? [Post edited 4 Mar 2019 14:39]
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| Where is the next generation of QPR fans coming from? on 14:41 - Mar 4 with 3244 views | Pommyhoop |
Football, in general, is eating itself. SKY, FFP , FIFA and all that.
In a decade or 2 being a football fan who actually goes to matches will be akin to someone today who reenacts English Civil War battles twice a month |  |
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| Where is the next generation of QPR fans coming from? on 14:44 - Mar 4 with 3215 views | YorkRanger |
| Where is the next generation of QPR fans coming from? on 14:33 - Mar 4 by daveB |
The club do a brilliant job of this with the Family Stand and the Fan Zone before the game plus the Soccer Schools to attract and give younger fans a reason to come back. Sadly rather than celebrate this every fans forum sees fans ask them to scrap this so we can go back to a mythical time when the Lower Loft was jumping.
you are right though I can only see our fan base shrinking rather than growing in the next few years |
I agree the club do some good stuff Dave but I still think they could do more.
I don't profess to know all the answers but, for example, seems a tragedy to have the School End Lower empty most weeks, surely there is an opportunity to get schools, youth clubs in with free tickets. The incremental cost of stewarding etc will be minor and there will be potential for refreshment sales and other merchandising sales to help compensate. More importantly it helps to get people interested.
Also do a bit more pre match and half time entertainment that will keep kids interested.
Have a scheme for schools, kids for a fiver, bring a parent for free. Perhaps generate (or re-generate) some interest in older people.
I'm sure the marketeers could have a field day with this. |  | | |
| Where is the next generation of QPR fans coming from? on 14:50 - Mar 4 with 3190 views | paesanu |
I don't think your concerns are an over-reaction. Previous generations, football was a tribal thing. Next generation, it's a business product.
The rising cost, the modern player's lack of genuine allegiance, the alternatives (better / better-branded footie teams, other forms of entertainment). The loyalty thing is so diluted by the commercialism then yes, I do kids will start thinking that the tribalism is fake emotions, and their hearts just won't be in it. |  |
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| Where is the next generation of QPR fans coming from? on 14:53 - Mar 4 with 3180 views | 1MoreBrightonR |
i actually think the issue isnt kids, its young adults....basically as you hit 16 (or is it 18), it suddenly gets very pricey. I know we still do cheaper seats for younger adults, but if you have big groups of young adults, they come, make a day it of, few beers etc. makes a better atmosphere and then they become hooked. |  | | |
| Where is the next generation of QPR fans coming from? on 14:59 - Mar 4 with 3148 views | toboboly |
| Where is the next generation of QPR fans coming from? on 14:33 - Mar 4 by daveB |
The club do a brilliant job of this with the Family Stand and the Fan Zone before the game plus the Soccer Schools to attract and give younger fans a reason to come back. Sadly rather than celebrate this every fans forum sees fans ask them to scrap this so we can go back to a mythical time when the Lower Loft was jumping.
you are right though I can only see our fan base shrinking rather than growing in the next few years |
I think the placement of the family stand is the issue rather than its existence. Move it to the School Lower and make the Loft Lower safe standing and 99% of people will be happy.
On a side note if we got safe standing in first it would bring in more people and would allow us to increase our seasons footfall with minimum outlay. |  |
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| Where is the next generation of QPR fans coming from? on 15:04 - Mar 4 with 3134 views | Rog |
| Where is the next generation of QPR fans coming from? on 14:59 - Mar 4 by toboboly |
I think the placement of the family stand is the issue rather than its existence. Move it to the School Lower and make the Loft Lower safe standing and 99% of people will be happy.
On a side note if we got safe standing in first it would bring in more people and would allow us to increase our seasons footfall with minimum outlay. |
Sure, let's put the kids below the away fans so they get the full experience. | | | |
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| Where is the next generation of QPR fans coming from? on 15:12 - Mar 4 with 3100 views | RBlock |
| Where is the next generation of QPR fans coming from? on 14:59 - Mar 4 by toboboly |
I think the placement of the family stand is the issue rather than its existence. Move it to the School Lower and make the Loft Lower safe standing and 99% of people will be happy.
On a side note if we got safe standing in first it would bring in more people and would allow us to increase our seasons footfall with minimum outlay. |
Two issues there. As Rog alludes to, away fans above could just pelt them with bottles/change/any other bits and bobs. Whilst we'd all hope that fans would be above that, I think we're all a bit wiser than that.
Secondly the Lower Loft works because there is so much space in there to have a little games room and do all the activities that attract the kids. That space isn't there in the School End.
Oh, and thirdly are we not under an obligation to provide X amount of seats to the away team should they request it, which is why some teams occasionally take both tiers like Leeds did? So how do you get around that one? |  | | |
| Where is the next generation of QPR fans coming from? on 15:13 - Mar 4 with 3086 views | stevec |
If we ever get back to the promised land, the problem of bums on seats will be solved instantly. |  | | |
| Where is the next generation of QPR fans coming from? on 15:16 - Mar 4 with 3081 views | daveB |
| Where is the next generation of QPR fans coming from? on 14:44 - Mar 4 by YorkRanger |
I agree the club do some good stuff Dave but I still think they could do more.
I don't profess to know all the answers but, for example, seems a tragedy to have the School End Lower empty most weeks, surely there is an opportunity to get schools, youth clubs in with free tickets. The incremental cost of stewarding etc will be minor and there will be potential for refreshment sales and other merchandising sales to help compensate. More importantly it helps to get people interested.
Also do a bit more pre match and half time entertainment that will keep kids interested.
Have a scheme for schools, kids for a fiver, bring a parent for free. Perhaps generate (or re-generate) some interest in older people.
I'm sure the marketeers could have a field day with this. |
They do offer cheap tickets to local football teams. My son plays for a team in Iver and QPR have set up a partnership with them and several other clubs in the area giving discounts on match tickets and the soccer schools. The fan Zone they do is brilliant with loads of activities for kids, they also have a ids room in the lower loft with table football, games machines, QPR Bingo cards to use during the game which was a god send with my son during some dreadful games when he was younger and they do loads more. | | | |
| Where is the next generation of QPR fans coming from? on 15:18 - Mar 4 with 3064 views | daveB |
| Where is the next generation of QPR fans coming from? on 14:59 - Mar 4 by toboboly |
I think the placement of the family stand is the issue rather than its existence. Move it to the School Lower and make the Loft Lower safe standing and 99% of people will be happy.
On a side note if we got safe standing in first it would bring in more people and would allow us to increase our seasons footfall with minimum outlay. |
Safe Standing isn't really an option for us at the moment unless we get relegated. My argument is always where are these extra people who want to come and why are they not coming now? Why would terracing make them come back, not as if the experience was anything other than crap at Brentford with terracing at the weekend.
moving the family stand to the School end is all well and good but what do you do when you play teams who want the full away end, turn down the money from them in the hope we can sell out both the lower loft and school end. | | | |
| Where is the next generation of QPR fans coming from? on 15:23 - Mar 4 with 3049 views | toboboly |
| Where is the next generation of QPR fans coming from? on 15:04 - Mar 4 by Rog |
Sure, let's put the kids below the away fans so they get the full experience. |
You cant hear the upper tier from the lower. | |
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| Where is the next generation of QPR fans coming from? on 15:24 - Mar 4 with 3043 views | CroydonCaptJack |
I can only talk for the people I travel up to and back from the ground with and myself.
Both of my two boys support QPR. They are off at Uni now but the youngest has always been more interested in football and will come whenever he can. The older one will come occasionally. Neither will ever support anyone else.
Of the others in my area, one has the same issue with a son at Uni but he is going when he can including aways near Leeds where he is at Uni My near neighbour brings his 18 year old and another (who is a poster on here) brings his son as does his mate. I know someone else who brings his son and occasionally his daughter and another whose daughter comes to all homes and a lot of aways too. Lastly, another one who comes with us has three QPR Supporting sons.
I think the Croydon area is doing pretty well with its QPR Succession plan. [Post edited 4 Mar 2019 15:25]
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| Where is the next generation of QPR fans coming from? on 15:25 - Mar 4 with 3032 views | Mick_S |
It does seem that there is nowhere else for the family stand to be placed and that's why it is where it is. I have no idea what the average family take up is over a season, but would it be feasible to have the family stand to just one side of the goal, ie half the lower Loft? Most of the kids have heard the naughty words more than once, although I fully understand that it may be an issue for many parents.
Seeing the lower Loft a third full as often as we do - doesn't look good! |  |
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| Where is the next generation of QPR fans coming from? on 15:29 - Mar 4 with 3018 views | colinallcars |
Retaining the older fans is a problem too. Not just a Rangers prblem though. The whole ethos of the game has changed. “Game Management “ is likey to end my attendance at football matches. That and the obscene wages “earned” by players even at our level. |  | | |
| Where is the next generation of QPR fans coming from? on 15:38 - Mar 4 with 2995 views | daveB |
| Where is the next generation of QPR fans coming from? on 15:25 - Mar 4 by Mick_S |
It does seem that there is nowhere else for the family stand to be placed and that's why it is where it is. I have no idea what the average family take up is over a season, but would it be feasible to have the family stand to just one side of the goal, ie half the lower Loft? Most of the kids have heard the naughty words more than once, although I fully understand that it may be an issue for many parents.
Seeing the lower Loft a third full as often as we do - doesn't look good! |
wouldn't be against the club having a few blocks for the family stand with the strict ticket options and the middle blocks for any member/st holder but not sure where the people are who would fill it, last week Lower Loft has empty but so was every other stand. Long before it became a family stand it would always be half full for most run of the mill midweek games | | | |
| Where is the next generation of QPR fans coming from? on 16:08 - Mar 4 with 2934 views | Phildo |
As an 80s kid I just used to go with my mates and it wasn't very expensive.
Now kids go with the family if at all and when older it gets quite hard particularly ironically if they play any sport just from a timing point of view.
My kids regard themselves as QPR supporters but I don't see them going the same way I have in my life and I do think it is a time bomb for the club. Perhaps for every club, [Post edited 4 Mar 2019 16:28]
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| Where is the next generation of QPR fans coming from? on 16:24 - Mar 4 with 2893 views | Konk |
| Where is the next generation of QPR fans coming from? on 16:08 - Mar 4 by Phildo |
As an 80s kid I just used to go with my mates and it wasn't very expensive.
Now kids go with the family if at all and when older it gets quite hard particularly ironically if they play any sport just from a timing point of view.
My kids regard themselves as QPR supporters but I don't see them going the same way I have in my life and I do think it is a time bomb for the club. Perhaps for every club, [Post edited 4 Mar 2019 16:28]
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Agree with this. You get some little groups of kids going to Fulham, but nothing like we even got when we were really struggling for gates. At my school, I reckon maybe 40-50% of boys would have gone to at least 4-5 games a season, and maybe another 20% - including myself - would go and watch their team whenever they were playing in London, and if not, go and get another game in. I could just rock up on the day and go to any game in London, without the need for a ticket, for less than the £5 I got from my morning paper round.
Football totally relies on fans going out of habit - since my circumstances have changed, I have completely got out of the habit of going, and I usually don't even really miss it most weeks. I haven't even been to any games as a neutral in the West Country since my move. If you've never formed that habit in the first place, then unless clubs do something drastic, it's difficult to see a lot of clubs maintaining crowds over the next 20-30 years. |  |
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| Where is the next generation of QPR fans coming from? on 16:28 - Mar 4 with 2875 views | MileEndR |
Plenty of us younger fans knocking about at the moment, but we're definitely in the minority at games these days. Most of my mates of my age who are football fans support fcking Man United or Liverpool... | | | |
| Where is the next generation of QPR fans coming from? on 16:36 - Mar 4 with 2857 views | ted_hendrix |
| Where is the next generation of QPR fans coming from? on 15:29 - Mar 4 by colinallcars |
Retaining the older fans is a problem too. Not just a Rangers prblem though. The whole ethos of the game has changed. “Game Management “ is likey to end my attendance at football matches. That and the obscene wages “earned” by players even at our level. |
Pretty much how I see it too, both my lads were QPR fans (what else)? but they have long since grown up with their own respective families and are getting on with their own lives, neither of them go now for various reasons that are far more important than football.
Times and circumstances change and that's how it is, when they came with me to LR back when it was a 3 hour round trip that was a pain but certainly doable and for the most time enjoyable nowadays if i'm honest I can hardly be bothered to go by myself.
I honestly don't have a clue how your gonna get the next generation into LR, there's a whole multitude of things to do now for kids rather than sitting in a creaky stadium watching the rain dripping on your head whilst watching less than average footballers wearing the almost famous blue and white hoops consistently concede goals as if they've been practicing it all week.
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| Where is the next generation of QPR fans coming from? on 16:46 - Mar 4 with 2836 views | stainrods_elbow |
| Where is the next generation of QPR fans coming from? on 14:59 - Mar 4 by toboboly |
I think the placement of the family stand is the issue rather than its existence. Move it to the School Lower and make the Loft Lower safe standing and 99% of people will be happy.
On a side note if we got safe standing in first it would bring in more people and would allow us to increase our seasons footfall with minimum outlay. |
Something I've been agitating for on an inferior forum since some time back - though it was dismissed. Unfortunately, we have a Chief Exec who seemingly has a mental block about the subject, and is hell-bent on moving us out of LR whether the aarguments are convincing or not. (They're not.) |  |
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| Where is the next generation of QPR fans coming from? on 17:07 - Mar 4 with 2788 views | swisscottage |
I used to get season tickets for 2 nieces and 1 nephew as well as my brother and mother who still come.
One has gone of to Uni and isn't around. One is doing A-levels this year, and that has pushed her over the edge with other commitments that she feels she couldn't make it, and the other with the nephew and his GCSEs combined with Rugby club commitments on a Saturday morning which make it difficult to get to footy in afternoon.
They're all avid supporters, and come when they can, but I doubt any of them will come back regularly until and unless they're back in London with free Saturdays.
They are like myself,coming with family from the age of 5 until the age of 15 when I had more weekend sport activities and education commitments, until I was in full time work and had the money to come regularly when I was 20, but have been an ST holder ever since. | | | |
| Where is the next generation of QPR fans coming from? on 19:08 - Mar 4 with 2612 views | Toast_R |
| Where is the next generation of QPR fans coming from? on 18:44 - Mar 4 by Stanisgod |
"Lower loft is always full"  |
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