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M4 bad J45 - J46 07:56 - Sep 11 with 2997 viewsstevethejack

Traffic insane. M4 closed til 2am, then only one lane in each direction. Loads traffic going through Morriston.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-45476362
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M4 bad J45 - J46 on 09:45 - Sep 11 with 1818 viewsdickythorpe

It's been a dreadful year above all years on the roads!! It seems we can't cope with the ever growing volumes.
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M4 bad J45 - J46 on 09:52 - Sep 11 with 1807 viewsLeonWasGod

45 minutes to get from Penlan pool to Uplands this morning. wtf is that all about? Could walk it quicker (but not carrying the kids, changes of clothes and work stuff).

It's a bit obvious though isn't it - build edge of city housing estates and don't provide affordable and convenient public transport and it's bleedingly obvious the roads will get more clogged.
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M4 bad J45 - J46 on 11:02 - Sep 11 with 1747 viewsSkettyJack

Roads affected until 15.30 tomorrow!

Bonkers how a crash on the motorway affects the entire city, guess the rain didnt help but still, our infrastructure is woefully inadequate
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M4 bad J45 - J46 on 11:54 - Sep 11 with 1708 viewssherpajacob

M4 bad J45 - J46 on 09:45 - Sep 11 by dickythorpe

It's been a dreadful year above all years on the roads!! It seems we can't cope with the ever growing volumes.


The Netherlands is the most densely populated country in Europe (excluding the tiddly ones)

There is an obvious win/win/win solution that just gets shouted down in the UK as too expensive and there is no room.



The Dutch show that doing it properly works.

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M4 bad J45 - J46 on 15:10 - Sep 11 with 1578 viewsProfessor

M4 bad J45 - J46 on 11:54 - Sep 11 by sherpajacob

The Netherlands is the most densely populated country in Europe (excluding the tiddly ones)

There is an obvious win/win/win solution that just gets shouted down in the UK as too expensive and there is no room.



The Dutch show that doing it properly works.


Dutch (and German cities) also have proper public transport systems that are fully integrated. Land at Schipol and you can get a train to most places with a simple change. Same in Munich, Hanover, Berlin and Hamburg. Direct Airport train that integrates with local and national systems. Quick and reliable and a fair price. As transport is good, there are fewer people on city roads. Bikes are a viable option.
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M4 bad J45 - J46 on 15:23 - Sep 11 with 1561 viewspikeypaul

Professor Yes at a fair price.

Heathrow to Paddington single ticket Β£25

Schipol to Amsterdam central station €5

Very similar distance and journey time.

And we wonder why people drive.
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M4 bad J45 - J46 on 15:38 - Sep 11 with 1539 viewsLord_Bony

When oh when Will folk start catching buses and using the public transport system and such like?

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M4 bad J45 - J46 on 15:40 - Sep 11 with 1530 viewsEbo

M4 bad J45 - J46 on 15:23 - Sep 11 by pikeypaul

Professor Yes at a fair price.

Heathrow to Paddington single ticket Β£25

Schipol to Amsterdam central station €5

Very similar distance and journey time.

And we wonder why people drive.
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You just illustrated how over-priced our shambolic, private owned rail network is too.

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M4 bad J45 - J46 on 15:55 - Sep 11 with 1502 viewspikeypaul

No shit Sherlock

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M4 bad J45 - J46 on 15:55 - Sep 11 with 1502 viewsProfessor

M4 bad J45 - J46 on 15:23 - Sep 11 by pikeypaul

Professor Yes at a fair price.

Heathrow to Paddington single ticket Β£25

Schipol to Amsterdam central station €5

Very similar distance and journey time.

And we wonder why people drive.
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Also you can get to Leiden, Rotterdam, Den Haag, Utrecht, Eindhoven etc. very easily from Schipol. Not into Paddington, then across London to Euston etc.

Gatwick is worse. Up here Manchester Airport is pretty easy by train-but Liverpool and Leeds are train and bus.
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M4 bad J45 - J46 on 15:57 - Sep 11 with 1497 viewsEbo

M4 bad J45 - J46 on 15:55 - Sep 11 by Professor

Also you can get to Leiden, Rotterdam, Den Haag, Utrecht, Eindhoven etc. very easily from Schipol. Not into Paddington, then across London to Euston etc.

Gatwick is worse. Up here Manchester Airport is pretty easy by train-but Liverpool and Leeds are train and bus.


I found Gatwick ok. Went in via Reading and straight in from Swansea.

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M4 bad J45 - J46 on 17:00 - Sep 11 with 1443 viewsProfessor

M4 bad J45 - J46 on 15:57 - Sep 11 by Ebo

I found Gatwick ok. Went in via Reading and straight in from Swansea.


Dreadful from the North. Usually fly from Manchester anyway-connects well to big carriers like KLM/AF, Lufthansa, Emirates, Turkish etc. Usually easier to connect than through London (apart from Paris CDG) Reasonable direct flights to the US and Canada too.
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M4 bad J45 - J46 on 18:48 - Sep 11 with 1364 viewsCatullus

M4 bad J45 - J46 on 17:00 - Sep 11 by Professor

Dreadful from the North. Usually fly from Manchester anyway-connects well to big carriers like KLM/AF, Lufthansa, Emirates, Turkish etc. Usually easier to connect than through London (apart from Paris CDG) Reasonable direct flights to the US and Canada too.


We live in Llansamlet, my wife works in Morriston hospital, she can't get to work on time by public transport unless she wants to arrive 40 mins early. Then, she'd take over 80 mins to get home. It takes around 25 mins on a normal day to drive her and come home. Taking her and picking her up is quicker than the one way journey in either direction and it's cheaper too.
Public transport is woefully inadequate and expensive.

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M4 bad J45 - J46 on 19:41 - Sep 11 with 1299 viewsjack2jack

Took us over half an hour this evening to get from Briton Ferry to Junction 44, apparently the lane closures won't be lifted until tomorrow evening, in both West and East bound directions, best allow extra time when travelling through this section.
I only hope they are carrying out the works over night in an attempt to get the motorway flowing as quickly as possible, it was a bit of a mess this evening.
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M4 bad J45 - J46 on 20:19 - Sep 11 with 1236 viewsbyron

M4 bad J45 - J46 on 15:40 - Sep 11 by Ebo

You just illustrated how over-priced our shambolic, private owned rail network is too.


The Gatwick one is even worse. Trains need to get back in to public ownership so normal people can afford them again. Such a rip off.
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M4 bad J45 - J46 on 20:59 - Sep 11 with 1171 viewsjack2jack

Just heard that there is no one working there ATM, please someone tell me that's not true, if it is then it's a shocking state of affairs.
Only in Britain
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M4 bad J45 - J46 on 21:00 - Sep 11 with 1171 viewsProfessor

M4 bad J45 - J46 on 18:48 - Sep 11 by Catullus

We live in Llansamlet, my wife works in Morriston hospital, she can't get to work on time by public transport unless she wants to arrive 40 mins early. Then, she'd take over 80 mins to get home. It takes around 25 mins on a normal day to drive her and come home. Taking her and picking her up is quicker than the one way journey in either direction and it's cheaper too.
Public transport is woefully inadequate and expensive.


Merseyside and Cheshire West are not so bad thankfully. Reasonable bus service to Liverpool and Chester and the Borders line which connects to Merseyrail. When I lived in Shrewsbury, Newbury and Warwickshire public transport was a joke. It is a disgrace really
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M4 bad J45 - J46 on 21:03 - Sep 11 with 1170 viewsJonathans_coat

M4 bad J45 - J46 on 20:59 - Sep 11 by jack2jack

Just heard that there is no one working there ATM, please someone tell me that's not true, if it is then it's a shocking state of affairs.
Only in Britain


Nope, not a soul to be seen!
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M4 bad J45 - J46 on 21:10 - Sep 11 with 1153 viewsjack2jack

M4 bad J45 - J46 on 21:03 - Sep 11 by Jonathans_coat

Nope, not a soul to be seen!


Do you mean that it's all fixed and up and running JC?
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M4 bad J45 - J46 on 21:15 - Sep 11 with 1148 viewsAguycalledJack

M4 bad J45 - J46 on 21:10 - Sep 11 by jack2jack

Do you mean that it's all fixed and up and running JC?


I passed at 5pm. Nobody working and the central reservation defo not done.
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M4 bad J45 - J46 on 21:23 - Sep 11 with 1134 viewsjack2jack

M4 bad J45 - J46 on 21:15 - Sep 11 by AguycalledJack

I passed at 5pm. Nobody working and the central reservation defo not done.


Well if there is no one working there now, to get this major route up and running by the morning, it's pathetic.
This would not happen in countries like America and Japan.
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M4 bad J45 - J46 on 00:31 - Sep 12 with 1022 viewsJonathans_coat

M4 bad J45 - J46 on 21:10 - Sep 11 by jack2jack

Do you mean that it's all fixed and up and running JC?


Sadly not. Just cones closing off one lane, but no workmen or equipment or any sign of either.
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M4 bad J45 - J46 on 02:29 - Sep 12 with 987 viewsmajorraglan

M4 bad J45 - J46 on 20:19 - Sep 11 by byron

The Gatwick one is even worse. Trains need to get back in to public ownership so normal people can afford them again. Such a rip off.


Don’t agree with you very often, but have an up arrow.
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M4 bad J45 - J46 on 02:37 - Sep 12 with 980 viewsmajorraglan

M4 bad J45 - J46 on 15:10 - Sep 11 by Professor

Dutch (and German cities) also have proper public transport systems that are fully integrated. Land at Schipol and you can get a train to most places with a simple change. Same in Munich, Hanover, Berlin and Hamburg. Direct Airport train that integrates with local and national systems. Quick and reliable and a fair price. As transport is good, there are fewer people on city roads. Bikes are a viable option.


Haven’t done much of Eastern Europe, but Brno and Budapest have good systems.

Rail fares in the U.K. are a scandal, someone has mentioned the Heathrow Express, that’s a mental price. Berlin, Malaga, Boston and loads of other cities all have decent public transport connections with their airports, we seem to lag behind.
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M4 bad J45 - J46 on 06:39 - Sep 12 with 918 viewspeenemunde

M4 bad J45 - J46 on 09:45 - Sep 11 by dickythorpe

It's been a dreadful year above all years on the roads!! It seems we can't cope with the ever growing volumes.


Are you really surprised ?
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