Corona Virus 22:39 - Mar 7 with 432756 views | SgorioFruit | Sorry for new thread, But how bad do you lot reckon it’s going to get here in the UK? I just been watching the news. Looking nasty in Italy. | |
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Corona Virus on 16:03 - Apr 12 with 1916 views | A_Fans_Dad |
That is very tough indeed, how are you coping with so many out? | | | |
Corona Virus on 16:27 - Apr 12 with 1876 views | CountyJim |
Corona Virus on 16:03 - Apr 12 by A_Fans_Dad | That is very tough indeed, how are you coping with so many out? |
Facilities which is what porters come under have taken on a load of agency lads its strange mind 🤔 it used to take weeks for police checks to be done now it seems days Nursing wise just using more agency nurses It must be costing a fortune | | | |
Corona Virus on 16:28 - Apr 12 with 1874 views | DJack | For AfD and others who believe that hydroxychloroquin is the drug to fight Covid 19 with. Sanofi is one of the producers of hydroxychloroquin and below is the English language press release from Sanofi and also a link to the original French version which can be read with the use of google translate. The following excerpt is taken from the release "To date, there is insufficient clinical evidence to draw any conclusion over the safety and efficacy of hydroxychloroquine in the management of COVID-19 patients." https://www.sanofi.com/en/media-room/press-releases/2020/2020-04-10-07-55-20 https://ml-eu.globenewswire.com/Resource/Download/bae9335b-a0bb-456e-8464-51431d | |
| It is far better to grasp the universe as it really is than to persist in delusion, however satisfying and reassuring. - Carl Sagan |
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Corona Virus on 16:37 - Apr 12 with 1853 views | A_Fans_Dad |
Yes & despite their statement they have ramped up production by double and will ramp up to quadruple normal ASAP. It sounds like they expect to be donating quite a lot soon, which is very good of them indeed. You probbly didn't bother to read the link I posted the other day, but it looks like current hospital treatment is treating the wrong desease. The problem is the COVID19 Virus attacks your blood stripping out and releasing Iron ions in the hemoglobin which a. depletes the blood’s oxygen carrying capacity causing organ failure and b. the Iron ions act as free radicals damaging the lungs and other organs. This is one for the Proff to chase up with his in the know buddies. | | | |
Corona Virus on 16:50 - Apr 12 with 1833 views | monmouth | If only medical experts could learn to use google rather than actual evidence, they’d all be as cutting edge as AFD. | |
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Corona Virus on 16:56 - Apr 12 with 1815 views | A_Fans_Dad |
Corona Virus on 16:50 - Apr 12 by monmouth | If only medical experts could learn to use google rather than actual evidence, they’d all be as cutting edge as AFD. |
But I am just quoting those "experts" you are talking about. | | | | Login to get fewer ads
Corona Virus on 17:01 - Apr 12 with 1810 views | DJack |
Corona Virus on 16:37 - Apr 12 by A_Fans_Dad | Yes & despite their statement they have ramped up production by double and will ramp up to quadruple normal ASAP. It sounds like they expect to be donating quite a lot soon, which is very good of them indeed. You probbly didn't bother to read the link I posted the other day, but it looks like current hospital treatment is treating the wrong desease. The problem is the COVID19 Virus attacks your blood stripping out and releasing Iron ions in the hemoglobin which a. depletes the blood’s oxygen carrying capacity causing organ failure and b. the Iron ions act as free radicals damaging the lungs and other organs. This is one for the Proff to chase up with his in the know buddies. |
If Trump (who actively holds shares in Sanofi) pushes the US to use HCQ(Plaquenil) in therapeutic treatment then they will need a lot of stock, however... https://www.newsweek.com/hydroxychloroquine-coronavirus-france-heart-cardiac-149 Also, CDC's website states: "There are no drugs or other therapeutics approved by the US Food and Drug Administration to prevent or treat COVID-19." As to "You probbly didn't bother to read the link I posted the other day" you may be correct or I may have missed it. Please repost the link. And to your final comment, Prof and "his buddies" have probably forgotten more than you will ever know on the subject. Any sane person would reference them before you I'm afraid. | |
| It is far better to grasp the universe as it really is than to persist in delusion, however satisfying and reassuring. - Carl Sagan |
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Corona Virus on 17:21 - Apr 12 with 1770 views | jasper_T |
Corona Virus on 17:01 - Apr 12 by DJack | If Trump (who actively holds shares in Sanofi) pushes the US to use HCQ(Plaquenil) in therapeutic treatment then they will need a lot of stock, however... https://www.newsweek.com/hydroxychloroquine-coronavirus-france-heart-cardiac-149 Also, CDC's website states: "There are no drugs or other therapeutics approved by the US Food and Drug Administration to prevent or treat COVID-19." As to "You probbly didn't bother to read the link I posted the other day" you may be correct or I may have missed it. Please repost the link. And to your final comment, Prof and "his buddies" have probably forgotten more than you will ever know on the subject. Any sane person would reference them before you I'm afraid. |
Personally I wouldn't reference anyone who's notable for how much they've forgotten. Maybe I'm weird, though. It's Biden vs Trump for the next US presidential campaign after all. | | | |
Corona Virus on 17:25 - Apr 12 with 1752 views | chad |
Corona Virus on 17:01 - Apr 12 by DJack | If Trump (who actively holds shares in Sanofi) pushes the US to use HCQ(Plaquenil) in therapeutic treatment then they will need a lot of stock, however... https://www.newsweek.com/hydroxychloroquine-coronavirus-france-heart-cardiac-149 Also, CDC's website states: "There are no drugs or other therapeutics approved by the US Food and Drug Administration to prevent or treat COVID-19." As to "You probbly didn't bother to read the link I posted the other day" you may be correct or I may have missed it. Please repost the link. And to your final comment, Prof and "his buddies" have probably forgotten more than you will ever know on the subject. Any sane person would reference them before you I'm afraid. |
Do you actually think AFD wants us to reference him Cannot you see he is raising issues as discussion points and happy for them to be knocked down with alternative information This is after all a discussion forum isn’t it and isn’t anyone entitled to an opinion I think Prof mentioned he is not a virologist BTW does that make his opinion any the less valid? | | | |
Corona Virus on 18:23 - Apr 12 with 1687 views | DJack |
Corona Virus on 17:21 - Apr 12 by jasper_T | Personally I wouldn't reference anyone who's notable for how much they've forgotten. Maybe I'm weird, though. It's Biden vs Trump for the next US presidential campaign after all. |
As you well know the point I was making was that the experts have a far superior levels of knowledge in their field than a rando on the internet. Secondly, can you proivide any citation that demonstrates the Prof and/or "his mates" is/are notable for how much they've forgotten? | |
| It is far better to grasp the universe as it really is than to persist in delusion, however satisfying and reassuring. - Carl Sagan |
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Corona Virus on 18:29 - Apr 12 with 1675 views | DJack |
Corona Virus on 17:25 - Apr 12 by chad | Do you actually think AFD wants us to reference him Cannot you see he is raising issues as discussion points and happy for them to be knocked down with alternative information This is after all a discussion forum isn’t it and isn’t anyone entitled to an opinion I think Prof mentioned he is not a virologist BTW does that make his opinion any the less valid? |
Incorrect he has pushed some false things. Yes you can have your opinion and I can provide links to facts when able. The Prof actually pointed out this "I am not virologist, but I have worked in infectious disease research for nearly 25 years. I set up and ran a successful MSc on Infection and Disease Control and have published more than a 100 research papers. I am not a coronavirus expert but have a good friend and colleague who is. I have other medic colleagues who are absolute leaders in treating emerging viral infections. I am reading the primary literature not some opinion on the internet. " Quite a difference don't you think? | |
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Corona Virus on 18:35 - Apr 12 with 1664 views | DJack |
Your first link doesn't work for me and your second is where someone has proposed a hypothesis. So currently you got nothing. This may well change but I prefer to stick with current proven work and to keep it light... | |
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Corona Virus on 18:59 - Apr 12 with 1621 views | Professor |
Corona Virus on 18:29 - Apr 12 by DJack | Incorrect he has pushed some false things. Yes you can have your opinion and I can provide links to facts when able. The Prof actually pointed out this "I am not virologist, but I have worked in infectious disease research for nearly 25 years. I set up and ran a successful MSc on Infection and Disease Control and have published more than a 100 research papers. I am not a coronavirus expert but have a good friend and colleague who is. I have other medic colleagues who are absolute leaders in treating emerging viral infections. I am reading the primary literature not some opinion on the internet. " Quite a difference don't you think? |
I am not a virologist I work on bacterial infection and immunity. These are my colleagues: https://scholar.google.co.uk/citations?user=MBGsvm4AAAAJ&hl=en https://scholar.google.co.uk/citations?user=LNfrryAAAAAJ&hl=en This is summary of what is going on here https://www.liverpool.ac.uk/coronavirus/research-and-analysis/ As for the chloroquine-‘it looks to be detrimental not helpful in CoVid19 from the preprints I am seeing | | | |
Corona Virus on 19:00 - Apr 12 with 1617 views | DJack |
Corona Virus on 18:55 - Apr 12 by A_Fans_Dad | Yes it is a hypothesis that fits all the facts and comes from doctors in the field, one of them is in New York City, it will remain one until the health services prove or disprove it. Try this version. http://web.archive.org/web/20200405061346/ https://medium.com/@agaiziunas/covid-19-had-us-all-fooled-but-now-we-might-have- If this is correct it means that not only are they treating the wrong thing, the treatment regime is also incorrect. ie you need to give any medicien when the symptoms first show, not when the have been in self isolation and the blood damage has progressed and they need ICU. edit, that link doesn't work either. [Post edited 12 Apr 2020 19:00]
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Once again I got a 410 error message with this message below it "This account is under investigation or was found in violation of the Medium Rules." | |
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Corona Virus on 19:03 - Apr 12 with 1607 views | DJack |
You don't need to tell me buddy! | |
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Corona Virus on 19:19 - Apr 12 with 1592 views | Professor |
Corona Virus on 19:03 - Apr 12 by DJack | You don't need to tell me buddy! |
Was just replying to a sensible post! | | | |
Corona Virus on 19:24 - Apr 12 with 1580 views | DJack |
Corona Virus on 19:19 - Apr 12 by Professor | Was just replying to a sensible post! |
You will ruin my credibility with this post! | |
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Corona Virus on 19:25 - Apr 12 with 1575 views | exiledclaseboy | My mrs takes Hydroxehatsitquine. Should I be nicking some? | |
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Corona Virus on 19:29 - Apr 12 with 2258 views | jasper_T |
Corona Virus on 18:23 - Apr 12 by DJack | As you well know the point I was making was that the experts have a far superior levels of knowledge in their field than a rando on the internet. Secondly, can you proivide any citation that demonstrates the Prof and/or "his mates" is/are notable for how much they've forgotten? |
You literally noted it in the post I responded to, don't be dense. | | | |
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