| Oil Tanker in the channel 18:57 - Oct 25 with 1565 views | britferry |
Its all kicking off as Nigerian stowaways come out of hiding and the crew run for cover.
Get the SBS on it
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| Oil Tanker in the channel on 09:31 - Oct 27 with 431 views | felixstowe_jack |
| Oil Tanker in the channel on 09:25 - Oct 27 by Boundy |
Actually the police are trained in hostage situations but I'm assuming not when the situation is at sea. That was a large vessel in busy shipping lanes carrying a potential fire hazard and if not fire at the least a environmental hazard . The ship was observed to be making numerous turns hence the large exclusion zone around it.I would imagine the authorities weren't going to let the hijackers command the situation rather end it as quickly as possible.The MofDP have a number of bases in the UK but none as near as the Isle of Wight .It makes more sense even though it may upset those who are anti military to use the specialist s in their field to prevent a situation becoming worse. I can imagine now the cries of outrage if the ship had exploded due to a terrorist bomb exploding aboard or ramming other ships .
PS you don't have to carry firearms to overpower someone although perhaps they managed to get hold of the ships armoury ( under international law ships are allowed to carry firearms for self protection )
I'm sure all will be revealed (as much as necessary to satisfy those who feel the need to be satisfied) |
It is actually virtually impossible to board an oil tanker at sea from a boat . The oil tanker sides are too steep. You can only board with the cooperation of the crew who lower a boarding ladder. That is how pilots Join the ship. It would therefore be impossible for the police to board only the armed forces could do from helicopters.
Just imagine the carnage if it had run aground it would have been an environmental disaster if the hull had been breached. | |
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| Oil Tanker in the channel on 09:37 - Oct 27 with 431 views | Catullus |
| Oil Tanker in the channel on 09:25 - Oct 27 by Boundy |
Actually the police are trained in hostage situations but I'm assuming not when the situation is at sea. That was a large vessel in busy shipping lanes carrying a potential fire hazard and if not fire at the least a environmental hazard . The ship was observed to be making numerous turns hence the large exclusion zone around it.I would imagine the authorities weren't going to let the hijackers command the situation rather end it as quickly as possible.The MofDP have a number of bases in the UK but none as near as the Isle of Wight .It makes more sense even though it may upset those who are anti military to use the specialist s in their field to prevent a situation becoming worse. I can imagine now the cries of outrage if the ship had exploded due to a terrorist bomb exploding aboard or ramming other ships .
PS you don't have to carry firearms to overpower someone although perhaps they managed to get hold of the ships armoury ( under international law ships are allowed to carry firearms for self protection )
I'm sure all will be revealed (as much as necessary to satisfy those who feel the need to be satisfied) |
That's what I meant by trined, the police ren't trained to storm a ship at sea whereas the SBS and SAS are trained for these things.
Assuming they weren't armed, how do 7 people overpower 22? Maybe they did have weapons even if it was only kitchen knives...proper knices mind not table knives.
Ultimately the authorities had to act and anyone complaining about the SBS not going in would also be complaining if they ran the ship aground, rammed another or sank and caused polluion. But that's Kilk for you, whatever the Westminster government does he'd complain about it. If Bojo found a way to unilaterally make Wales independent and gave us 100 billion he'd find something to moan about. | |
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| Oil Tanker in the channel on 09:43 - Oct 27 with 424 views | onehunglow |
My son in law is an ARV and Police do not train for this scenario. | |
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| Oil Tanker in the channel on 11:32 - Oct 27 with 400 views | theloneranger |
| Oil Tanker in the channel on 09:37 - Oct 27 by Catullus |
That's what I meant by trined, the police ren't trained to storm a ship at sea whereas the SBS and SAS are trained for these things.
Assuming they weren't armed, how do 7 people overpower 22? Maybe they did have weapons even if it was only kitchen knives...proper knices mind not table knives.
Ultimately the authorities had to act and anyone complaining about the SBS not going in would also be complaining if they ran the ship aground, rammed another or sank and caused polluion. But that's Kilk for you, whatever the Westminster government does he'd complain about it. If Bojo found a way to unilaterally make Wales independent and gave us 100 billion he'd find something to moan about. |
When the stowaways became violent, the captain ordered the crew to lock themselves in the Citadel (safe room). This room has full control of the main and auxiliary engines, plus communication to the outside world and stocked with emergency supplies.
If as reported the captain remained on the bridge, he broke all the rules of the Citadel and should have gone in with his crew to alleviate the problem of becoming a hostage!! |  |
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| Oil Tanker in the channel on 11:37 - Oct 27 with 395 views | Boundy |
| Oil Tanker in the channel on 11:32 - Oct 27 by theloneranger |
When the stowaways became violent, the captain ordered the crew to lock themselves in the Citadel (safe room). This room has full control of the main and auxiliary engines, plus communication to the outside world and stocked with emergency supplies.
If as reported the captain remained on the bridge, he broke all the rules of the Citadel and should have gone in with his crew to alleviate the problem of becoming a hostage!! |
not a marine expert in any shape or form , but could the Captain stop all engines and drop anchor from the Citadel ? if not then was he wise to remain on the bridge just in case control of the ship was lost . | |
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| Oil Tanker in the channel on 12:01 - Oct 27 with 388 views | A_Fans_Dad |
About the only alternative to the SBS are the SAS and the Marines who also specialize in those kind of actions. | | | |
| Oil Tanker in the channel on 12:17 - Oct 27 with 372 views | Kilkennyjack |
| Oil Tanker in the channel on 12:01 - Oct 27 by A_Fans_Dad |
About the only alternative to the SBS are the SAS and the Marines who also specialize in those kind of actions. |
There were 7 unarmed untrained Nigerians.
This is not some heroic achievement like Rourke’s Drift.
We have a nation of snowflakes. |  |
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| Oil Tanker in the channel on 12:21 - Oct 27 with 372 views | A_Fans_Dad |
| Oil Tanker in the channel on 12:17 - Oct 27 by Kilkennyjack |
There were 7 unarmed untrained Nigerians.
This is not some heroic achievement like Rourke’s Drift.
We have a nation of snowflakes. |
The authorities didn't know that did they? | | | |
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| Oil Tanker in the channel on 13:12 - Oct 27 with 361 views | Boundy |
| Oil Tanker in the channel on 09:31 - Oct 27 by felixstowe_jack |
It is actually virtually impossible to board an oil tanker at sea from a boat . The oil tanker sides are too steep. You can only board with the cooperation of the crew who lower a boarding ladder. That is how pilots Join the ship. It would therefore be impossible for the police to board only the armed forces could do from helicopters.
Just imagine the carnage if it had run aground it would have been an environmental disaster if the hull had been breached. |
It appears it that they did indeed scale the side of the ship and from helicopters . They have previous when they rescued the crew of an Italian cargo ship which had been taken over by four stowaway migrants in the Thames Estuary last year. Isn't nice to know HM Forces are still the best , makes you proud to be British. | |
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| Oil Tanker in the channel on 13:24 - Oct 27 with 353 views | pencoedjack |
| Oil Tanker in the channel on 12:21 - Oct 27 by A_Fans_Dad |
The authorities didn't know that did they? |
We should of sent in the Welsh nationalists dressed as storm troopers that would of scared them to surrender |  | | |
| Oil Tanker in the channel on 13:29 - Oct 27 with 350 views | Kilkennyjack |
| Oil Tanker in the channel on 13:24 - Oct 27 by pencoedjack |
We should of sent in the Welsh nationalists dressed as storm troopers that would of scared them to surrender |
Well, any number of heavily armed and trained men would be odds on favourites, lets be honest.
This is like Real Madrid vs Blaengarw 3rds.
Well done for winning ...... yawn ...
Thats the Great in Great Britain that we all love to see. [Post edited 27 Oct 2020 13:29]
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| Oil Tanker in the channel on 13:34 - Oct 27 with 346 views | felixstowe_jack |
| Oil Tanker in the channel on 13:29 - Oct 27 by Kilkennyjack |
Well, any number of heavily armed and trained men would be odds on favourites, lets be honest.
This is like Real Madrid vs Blaengarw 3rds.
Well done for winning ...... yawn ...
Thats the Great in Great Britain that we all love to see. [Post edited 27 Oct 2020 13:29]
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Glad you agree it is right apprehend people who were endangering the crew and the safety of an oil tanker. | |
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| Oil Tanker in the channel on 14:37 - Oct 27 with 326 views | Flashberryjack |
| Oil Tanker in the channel on 12:17 - Oct 27 by Kilkennyjack |
There were 7 unarmed untrained Nigerians.
This is not some heroic achievement like Rourke’s Drift.
We have a nation of snowflakes. |
Better to go in prepared for the worse, if they didn't, and it all went tits up.
You'd be the first in line to complain, we have become a nation of snowflakes, one thing we agree on. |  |
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| Oil Tanker in the channel on 15:00 - Oct 27 with 311 views | Highjack |
| Oil Tanker in the channel on 14:37 - Oct 27 by Flashberryjack |
Better to go in prepared for the worse, if they didn't, and it all went tits up.
You'd be the first in line to complain, we have become a nation of snowflakes, one thing we agree on. |
Yeah if they’d sent in the Dorset ladies over 70’s crochet team then he’d be screaming incompetence and demanding why Boris didn’t send in the SAS. |  |
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| Oil Tanker in the channel on 15:13 - Oct 27 with 305 views | Catullus |
| Oil Tanker in the channel on 09:31 - Oct 27 by felixstowe_jack |
It is actually virtually impossible to board an oil tanker at sea from a boat . The oil tanker sides are too steep. You can only board with the cooperation of the crew who lower a boarding ladder. That is how pilots Join the ship. It would therefore be impossible for the police to board only the armed forces could do from helicopters.
Just imagine the carnage if it had run aground it would have been an environmental disaster if the hull had been breached. |
Have you seen Captain Phillips? Isn't that just what they did, got alongside in a small boat and climbed up.
Kilk has become a parody of himself. Whatever Westminster/Bojo does it is wrong. If Kilk said Bojo should do something and Bojo did, that'd be wrong too. | |
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| Oil Tanker in the channel on 16:00 - Oct 27 with 298 views | DwightYorkeSuperstar |
Just imagine if the stowaways deliberately or accidentally ran the ship aground, spilling up to 2,000,000 barrels of oil along the English south coast.
There would be an uproar as to why the SBS were not sent in to take control of the vessel at the earliest opportunity.
Instead we have people questioning why they didn't send the local police in, or why the crew didn't fancy getting into a fight with seven criminals who were likely extremely distressed knowing they will either be sent to prison or back to Lagos very soon. |  |
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| Oil Tanker in the channel on 16:37 - Oct 27 with 284 views | Boundy |
| Oil Tanker in the channel on 16:00 - Oct 27 by DwightYorkeSuperstar |
Just imagine if the stowaways deliberately or accidentally ran the ship aground, spilling up to 2,000,000 barrels of oil along the English south coast.
There would be an uproar as to why the SBS were not sent in to take control of the vessel at the earliest opportunity.
Instead we have people questioning why they didn't send the local police in, or why the crew didn't fancy getting into a fight with seven criminals who were likely extremely distressed knowing they will either be sent to prison or back to Lagos very soon. |
Pretty much what most of more intelligent ones on here have posted . Perhaps we should have sent in Julian Cayo- Evans band of merry men , maybe that would have pleased some on here | |
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| Oil Tanker in the channel on 16:52 - Oct 27 with 282 views | Groo |
| Oil Tanker in the channel on 12:17 - Oct 27 by Kilkennyjack |
There were 7 unarmed untrained Nigerians.
This is not some heroic achievement like Rourke’s Drift.
We have a nation of snowflakes. |
How do you know they were unarmed and untrained?
They only needed to capture 1 crewman with a knife at his throat to hold back the others.
You seem to think sending a copper with no training in boarding ships to apprehend the suspects appropriate? Should he take his bike as well? |  |
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| Oil Tanker in the channel on 17:01 - Oct 27 with 275 views | Boundy |
| Oil Tanker in the channel on 16:52 - Oct 27 by Groo |
How do you know they were unarmed and untrained?
They only needed to capture 1 crewman with a knife at his throat to hold back the others.
You seem to think sending a copper with no training in boarding ships to apprehend the suspects appropriate? Should he take his bike as well? |
You forgot "evening all " | |
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| Oil Tanker in the channel on 17:15 - Oct 27 with 273 views | FieryJack |
I'm glad the SBS had the opportunity to get some practice in. I don't suppose they do much in an average year, except practice.
Besides which it gives us all the chance to bask in the patriotic glow of believing our Special Forces are the very best in the world. Egged on by the Telegraph, Express etc., naturally.
Question: is it possible to be left of centre AND salivate over the SAS etc. or is it exclusively the preserve of Little Englanders?
Felix, this is one for you.
(Btw, I think our lads are great) |  | | |
| Oil Tanker in the channel on 17:24 - Oct 27 with 269 views | onehunglow |
I'll answer that.
SAS protect Great Britain.That include Wales.
That means if Welsh hostages are taken say in the Bristol Channel ,our SBS would jump in and save our people.I mean the bastards.
If my wife or family were hostages I would be quite happy for SBS to rip them apart alive and to throw their entrails asunder.
No doubt Killy prefers the Irish way ,which is either to do feck all and be neutral ,like they did in 2 World Wars or to bomb them indescriminately | |
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| Oil Tanker in the channel on 17:24 - Oct 27 with 269 views | Catullus |
| Oil Tanker in the channel on 17:15 - Oct 27 by FieryJack |
I'm glad the SBS had the opportunity to get some practice in. I don't suppose they do much in an average year, except practice.
Besides which it gives us all the chance to bask in the patriotic glow of believing our Special Forces are the very best in the world. Egged on by the Telegraph, Express etc., naturally.
Question: is it possible to be left of centre AND salivate over the SAS etc. or is it exclusively the preserve of Little Englanders?
Felix, this is one for you.
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Hey the armed forces are mostly ordinary men and women who do extraordinary things. Of course you can be to the left AND salivate over them.
You don't have to fall for the right wing guff though.
You might be surprised how much the SBS and SAS do in a year. They get up to all sorts in foreign places we've never even heard of....or about! | |
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| Oil Tanker in the channel on 17:45 - Oct 27 with 260 views | FieryJack |
| Oil Tanker in the channel on 17:24 - Oct 27 by Catullus |
Hey the armed forces are mostly ordinary men and women who do extraordinary things. Of course you can be to the left AND salivate over them.
You don't have to fall for the right wing guff though.
You might be surprised how much the SBS and SAS do in a year. They get up to all sorts in foreign places we've never even heard of....or about! |
Talking of Special Forces, don't you just love the name of the Russian equivalent: Spetsnaz!
I think some of them were in action in Marseille during the French Euros? 😉 [Post edited 27 Oct 2020 17:47]
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| Oil Tanker in the channel on 18:24 - Oct 27 with 242 views | trampie |
| Oil Tanker in the channel on 17:24 - Oct 27 by onehunglow |
I'll answer that.
SAS protect Great Britain.That include Wales.
That means if Welsh hostages are taken say in the Bristol Channel ,our SBS would jump in and save our people.I mean the bastards.
If my wife or family were hostages I would be quite happy for SBS to rip them apart alive and to throw their entrails asunder.
No doubt Killy prefers the Irish way ,which is either to do feck all and be neutral ,like they did in 2 World Wars or to bomb them indescriminately |
Ireland wasn't neutral in WW1, I told you that the other day. |  |
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| Oil Tanker in the channel on 18:25 - Oct 27 with 241 views | felixstowe_jack |
| Oil Tanker in the channel on 17:15 - Oct 27 by FieryJack |
I'm glad the SBS had the opportunity to get some practice in. I don't suppose they do much in an average year, except practice.
Besides which it gives us all the chance to bask in the patriotic glow of believing our Special Forces are the very best in the world. Egged on by the Telegraph, Express etc., naturally.
Question: is it possible to be left of centre AND salivate over the SAS etc. or is it exclusively the preserve of Little Englanders?
Felix, this is one for you.
(Btw, I think our lads are great) |
Yes I am centrist in my political leanings so I think everyone in the UK except the far left Corbynist wing of the labour party would support our special.forces.
Even Corbyn would be happy if they rescued him from terrorist. | |
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