| Taking the knee on 12:01 - Dec 7 with 1298 views | Highjack |
| Taking the knee on 11:29 - Dec 7 by ItchySphincter | Okay, will do. Why don’t you go on the other board? |
Judging by some of these screenshots I don’t think I’d be particularly welcome over there. |  |
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| Taking the knee on 12:02 - Dec 7 with 1301 views | trampie |
| Taking the knee on 11:52 - Dec 7 by Highjack | Any dissent and you’re automatically labelled a far right racist bigot. All very Orwellian. It’s getting beyond a joke now. Does anybody in the world actually believe that this mob is helping race relations? Then you have the whole argument that politics should be kept out of sport indefinitely, which probably everyone agrees with. Every sport that has done this has suffered, the headlines are not about the actual game now, it’s about who did the knee, who didn’t do the knee, who booed the knee. Someone didn’t knee they did the black power symbol instead, there’s a headline right there. What was the score? Who cares. It’s all about the knee. Millwall then release a statement calling their own customers a bunch of bastards. Then poor Mesut Ozil has the cheek to complain about the horrific genocidal treatment of Muslims in China and he gets fined, dropped and chucked out of the squad whilst his club issues a grovelling apology to the glorious nation of China. There’s not much solidarity for racial injustice there. It’s all rather ridiculous. |
Or labelled a far left racist bigot if commenting on antisemitism within Labour that does not fit with the media and powers that be narrative. |  |
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| Taking the knee on 12:05 - Dec 7 with 1292 views | Highjack |
| Taking the knee on 12:02 - Dec 7 by trampie | Or labelled a far left racist bigot if commenting on antisemitism within Labour that does not fit with the media and powers that be narrative. |
Corbyn, Starmer and the entire Labour Party have admitted there is a problem within the party. It’s only you who seems to think it’s a media smear. |  |
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| Taking the knee on 12:25 - Dec 7 with 1280 views | Wingstandwood |
| Taking the knee on 11:26 - Dec 7 by Highjack | Since all of this BLM nonsense kicked off I have been astounded at how many people are so stupid they can’t work out that you can be both anti racist AND against the organisation of BLM at the same time. My whole life I have believed that race doesn’t or shouldn’t matter. We’re all human and should try to get along. The amount of melanin in someone’s skin does not make a better or a worse person, what matters is what sort of people we choose to be. I’ve maintained this position for years and it won’t change until the day I die. Racism is stupid, and I hate it. Yet I’ve been sent screenshots of a plethora of ex posters on the other site calling me a racist cowardly c word and numerous other insults, but when they post on here they’re nice as pie and don’t say boo to a goose. That’s what cowards do. I’m happy to have the discussion with them about how I hate racism but also fundamentally disagree with the BLM movement. Hopefully they can pluck up the courage to peek out of their safe space for five minutes. |
It has indeed ended up like some surrealistic black comedy sketch! I love the way the tables have turned in most delicious own-goal fashion upon the very individuals who so disgracefully smear innocents with racist label. According to author/academic Robin DiAngelo by means of Matthew Hopkins Witchfinder General standards, mind-reading skills and pseudo-psychologist quackery, the worst racists of them all are the very individuals that love to smear others with racist accusation. Rather hilarious, seeing the same vile tactics deployed by others only for it be then maliciously turned upon themselves. Apparently according to DiAngelo these people have got even more to hide, their WOKE/social justice warrior antics and wrongful accusation of others is indeed a sign of their own denial, deception and closet racism. Apparently Robin DiAngelo and her followers are the only ones that truly matter now. They are the ‘pure-bred’ pedigree anti-racist, vastly superior to impostor anti-racists whom were lying cos they were really racist all along. What a disappointment that must be to the very people they forever patronise? Life’s a CH4 Brass Eye sketch. |  |
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| Taking the knee on 13:22 - Dec 7 with 1227 views | trampie |
| Taking the knee on 12:05 - Dec 7 by Highjack | Corbyn, Starmer and the entire Labour Party have admitted there is a problem within the party. It’s only you who seems to think it’s a media smear. |
Check that out if you are interested, it is the other side of the story you don't hear in the main stream press. Labour are discriminating against a section of the Jewish community, the people they discriminate against I've seen them described as the wrong type ofJew, they are left wing Jews. Not those MPs and luvvies you see on the TV, they are not discriminated against but left wing grassroots Jewish people that are disciminated against for being left wing and standing up for left wing causes, every Jewish professor type I see commenting on the situation seem very dismayed at what is going on against left wing Jewish people. [Post edited 7 Dec 2020 13:24]
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| Taking the knee on 14:19 - Dec 7 with 1179 views | Treforys_Jack |
| Taking the knee on 11:52 - Dec 7 by Highjack | Any dissent and you’re automatically labelled a far right racist bigot. All very Orwellian. It’s getting beyond a joke now. Does anybody in the world actually believe that this mob is helping race relations? Then you have the whole argument that politics should be kept out of sport indefinitely, which probably everyone agrees with. Every sport that has done this has suffered, the headlines are not about the actual game now, it’s about who did the knee, who didn’t do the knee, who booed the knee. Someone didn’t knee they did the black power symbol instead, there’s a headline right there. What was the score? Who cares. It’s all about the knee. Millwall then release a statement calling their own customers a bunch of bastards. Then poor Mesut Ozil has the cheek to complain about the horrific genocidal treatment of Muslims in China and he gets fined, dropped and chucked out of the squad whilst his club issues a grovelling apology to the glorious nation of China. There’s not much solidarity for racial injustice there. It’s all rather ridiculous. |
Lovely post HJ, pretty much the way it is atm, you always know your on the right lines when you get down voted by you know who. |  | |  |
| Taking the knee on 14:31 - Dec 7 with 1162 views | Highjack |
| Taking the knee on 13:22 - Dec 7 by trampie | Check that out if you are interested, it is the other side of the story you don't hear in the main stream press. Labour are discriminating against a section of the Jewish community, the people they discriminate against I've seen them described as the wrong type ofJew, they are left wing Jews. Not those MPs and luvvies you see on the TV, they are not discriminated against but left wing grassroots Jewish people that are disciminated against for being left wing and standing up for left wing causes, every Jewish professor type I see commenting on the situation seem very dismayed at what is going on against left wing Jewish people. [Post edited 7 Dec 2020 13:24]
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You see Tramp, I don’t necessarily disagree with you. But this is the culture that labour and the hard left have created over the last two decades or so. They’ve fallen on their own sword. You close down aspects of free speech or legitimate criticism on the grounds that it might be hurtful or offensive to a particular group of people, in some cases actually making it a crime to do so and suddenly the scope for debate in these issues become incredibly one sided and everybody who doesn’t immediately fall in line is deplatformed or made to shut up. |  |
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| Taking the knee on 14:32 - Dec 7 with 1160 views | Highjack |
| Taking the knee on 14:19 - Dec 7 by Treforys_Jack | Lovely post HJ, pretty much the way it is atm, you always know your on the right lines when you get down voted by you know who. |
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| Taking the knee on 15:02 - Dec 7 with 1146 views | trampie |
| Taking the knee on 14:31 - Dec 7 by Highjack | You see Tramp, I don’t necessarily disagree with you. But this is the culture that labour and the hard left have created over the last two decades or so. They’ve fallen on their own sword. You close down aspects of free speech or legitimate criticism on the grounds that it might be hurtful or offensive to a particular group of people, in some cases actually making it a crime to do so and suddenly the scope for debate in these issues become incredibly one sided and everybody who doesn’t immediately fall in line is deplatformed or made to shut up. |
The problem is people for political reasons did a number on left wingers within Labour, anyone that supports the Palestinian cause or was critical of Israel was deemed anti Jewish, people were falsely labelled to the degree that the narrative was that Labour was antisemitic and that they had to rid themselves of all these antisemitic people, for the most part there was no antisemitic people in Labour but some of the ones that were accused were Jewish people that were left wingers that supported oppressed people like the Palestinians, that were not Zionists and do not believe in a purpose built religious state, but these Jews have now been labelled as antisemitic and hunted out of Labour. All those NuLabour Jewish MPs on TV that could not give examples of antisemitism within Labour did not want Corbyn or momentum Labour in charge because the were red Tories and momentum was not, they did not want people sympathetic to the cause of Palestinians in charge and God forbid a Prime Minster that was sympathetic to the Palestinians so low and behold all this antisemitism accusations start up by people that reach the top of Labour mind you, funny kind of discrimination that and the result is they are now looking for people to get rid of and guess what people in some cases fit the criteria of being critical of Israel, pro oppressed people as in Palestinians in this case and are left wingers you guessed it left wing Jewish people. It could be said that Labour went from not being antisemitic to being anti Semitic against a certain type of Jew only, a left wing Jew. |  |
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| Taking the knee on 15:04 - Dec 7 with 1144 views | ItchySphincter |
| Taking the knee on 12:01 - Dec 7 by Highjack | Judging by some of these screenshots I don’t think I’d be particularly welcome over there. |
You would be, why wouldn’t you? Maybe you could even rediscover that sense of humour you had, away from the madness. |  |
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| Taking the knee on 15:09 - Dec 7 with 1135 views | Kilkennyjack | |  |
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| Taking the knee on 15:13 - Dec 7 with 1122 views | Dr_Parnassus |
Ah the good old meme that completely misses the point, quite intentionally, in order to overlook what is clearly a political movement. Footballers are stupid, clubs are commercially driven. Neither are doing it politically, they just don’t realise that what they are supporting is a political ideology and not a social movement, regardless of what some will have you believe. Did you know BLM now want to be a political party in their own right and have applied to do so? It does make me laugh when people say BLM is not a political movement. People just refuse to see what is in front of their eyes. |  |
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| Taking the knee on 15:43 - Dec 7 with 1100 views | trampie | |  |
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| Taking the knee on 16:06 - Dec 7 with 1071 views | trampie | |  |
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| Taking the knee on 16:14 - Dec 7 with 1058 views | Highjack |
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They should just bite the bullet and split into two parties. They hate each other even more than they hate the Tories. Sir Keir has got one hell of a job on his hands. |  |
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| Taking the knee on 16:18 - Dec 7 with 1055 views | trampie |
| Taking the knee on 16:14 - Dec 7 by Highjack | They should just bite the bullet and split into two parties. They hate each other even more than they hate the Tories. Sir Keir has got one hell of a job on his hands. |
Yes, Labour should be Labour and stick with its founding socialist principles. The breakaway group should be called something else because they are not Labour, 'Red Tories' I think is an apt name for them. |  |
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| Taking the knee on 16:22 - Dec 7 with 1047 views | trampie | |  |
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| Taking the knee on 16:42 - Dec 7 with 1017 views | Highjack | |  |
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| Taking the knee on 16:52 - Dec 7 with 1011 views | AnotherJohn |
| Taking the knee on 15:13 - Dec 7 by Dr_Parnassus | Ah the good old meme that completely misses the point, quite intentionally, in order to overlook what is clearly a political movement. Footballers are stupid, clubs are commercially driven. Neither are doing it politically, they just don’t realise that what they are supporting is a political ideology and not a social movement, regardless of what some will have you believe. Did you know BLM now want to be a political party in their own right and have applied to do so? It does make me laugh when people say BLM is not a political movement. People just refuse to see what is in front of their eyes. |
The BBC has being going to town today arguing that BLM in football is not political and that people need to be "educated". One would have thought that education would involve learning about the history and policies of the movement whose slogan is appearing on matchday kit, and also the content of FIFA Rule 4. There seems to be a naive belief that one can cast off the meanings attached to BLM just by saying that the BLM organisation's policies can be ignored. The consequence of jumping on the bandwagon at the time of the US and UK BLM protests, and putting "Kick it Out" on the backburner, is that a situation where 99% agreed with the message has been transformed into one where the crowd is divided. |  | |  |
| Taking the knee on 17:02 - Dec 7 with 1002 views | Lohengrin |
| Taking the knee on 16:18 - Dec 7 by trampie | Yes, Labour should be Labour and stick with its founding socialist principles. The breakaway group should be called something else because they are not Labour, 'Red Tories' I think is an apt name for them. |
The P & P circus - Palestine and Pronouns - have nothing, literally nothing whatsoever in common with the attendees at the Congregational Memorial Hall in 1900, Tramp. |  |
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| Taking the knee on 17:07 - Dec 7 with 995 views | Catullus |
| Taking the knee on 15:13 - Dec 7 by Dr_Parnassus | Ah the good old meme that completely misses the point, quite intentionally, in order to overlook what is clearly a political movement. Footballers are stupid, clubs are commercially driven. Neither are doing it politically, they just don’t realise that what they are supporting is a political ideology and not a social movement, regardless of what some will have you believe. Did you know BLM now want to be a political party in their own right and have applied to do so? It does make me laugh when people say BLM is not a political movement. People just refuse to see what is in front of their eyes. |
UK BLM are denying they are behind registering the name as a political party BUT Lemara Francis said: “BLM is proud to be a political organisation, but has no plans to set up a political party" https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news So they admit to being a political movement. |  |
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| Taking the knee on 17:15 - Dec 7 with 983 views | trampie | I'm seeing lots of pics online of the 'white ladies' going to the disciplinary hearing against the life long black anti racist campaigner with references to the Mississippi burning, oh dear. Labour are getting rid of the wrong people, they want to get rid of the red Tories who support a foreign power. |  |
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| Taking the knee on 19:39 - Dec 7 with 926 views | Catullus |
| Taking the knee on 17:15 - Dec 7 by trampie | I'm seeing lots of pics online of the 'white ladies' going to the disciplinary hearing against the life long black anti racist campaigner with references to the Mississippi burning, oh dear. Labour are getting rid of the wrong people, they want to get rid of the red Tories who support a foreign power. |
The "commanding heights" eh Trampie? https://www-tc.pbs.org/wgbh/co I'd have to wonder, if Corbyn had won, would he be able to nationalise. The national debt isn't as high as post WW2 when 24 billion was 250% of GDP but still, right now the debt is 100% plus of GDP. Could we afford it? Bearing in mind Corbyn, if sticking to his principles, may well have borrowed more than Bojo. Then to borrow enough for all the infrastructure investment and nationalisations. I doubt it would have happened. Covid may break a few countries yet. Blair undoubtedly wasn't really Labour but they were useful idiots and many of us fell for him, myself included. What we have today isn't a bunch of red tories just people not as far left as Corbyn and McDonnell. I'm sure there are some centrists waiting to surface in the tory ransk too just not right now because Bojo sacks anyone who steps out of line. Something he and Corbyn have in common. |  |
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| Taking the knee on 20:17 - Dec 7 with 899 views | trampie | I would expect somebody like you Catullus to vote for Tony Blair, no surprise there you come across as a right Blairite. |  |
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| Taking the knee on 21:04 - Dec 7 with 872 views | Flashberryjack |
| Taking the knee on 17:07 - Dec 7 by Catullus | UK BLM are denying they are behind registering the name as a political party BUT Lemara Francis said: “BLM is proud to be a political organisation, but has no plans to set up a political party" https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news So they admit to being a political movement. |
Whether they admit it or not, they are a political body that are using racism as a platform to push their anarchistic aims, and many have fallen for it. |  |
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